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Blake
01-02-2014, 11:25 AM
Well, he is off the market.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 20m
So Bears QB Jay Cutler is now signed through 2020.

htownfan32
01-02-2014, 11:34 AM
So... that's not happening.


QB Choices:
1) Draft
2) Sign a FA (but now there are none worth the starting position)
3) Stick with what we have on the roster.


1 and 3 seem like the only viable options we have right now, and 3 ain't real viable.

Playoffs
01-02-2014, 11:36 AM
Foxsports.com's Alex Marvez reports the first three years of Cutler's deal average $18 million per season. http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/random/bag_of_money.gifhttp://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/random/bag_of_money.gifhttp://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/random/bag_of_money.gif :cowboy1:

BetaV1
01-02-2014, 11:49 AM
Foxsports.com's Alex Marvez reports the first three years of Cutler's deal average $18 million per season. http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/random/bag_of_money.gifhttp://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/random/bag_of_money.gifhttp://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/random/bag_of_money.gif :cowboy1:

Real curious to see the backhalf, but overall it's not important. Most players rarely play out a full contract and he'll likely be cut before the final year of the deal. The first three seasons are what's important, and at that price, no thanks.

Blake
01-02-2014, 11:57 AM
Real curious to see the backhalf, but overall it's not important. Most players rarely play out a full contract and he'll likely be cut before the final year of the deal. The first three seasons are what's important, and at that price, no thanks.

Yeah. Everyone knows guaranteed money is the only thing that matters. I am sure its around $50 million. They will probably pay him that much by year 2 or 3 after signing bonus ect.

DBCooper
01-02-2014, 12:00 PM
So... that's not happening.


QB Choices:
1) Draft
2) Sign a FA (but now there are none worth the starting position)
3) Stick with what we have on the roster.


1 and 3 seem like the only viable options we have right now, and 3 ain't real viable.

4) Trade for a vet and groom a draft pick

Double Barrel
01-02-2014, 12:38 PM
I'm so glad the Bears took care of this early, if only because I did not want to hear Armchair GM constantly bring Cutler's name up as a QB for the Texans.

I don't hate Cutler. I just didn't want to see him in Texans gear.

Tearstain
01-02-2014, 02:12 PM
Pants :(

Was an option for a year or two while we either tutor CK or a draft pick QB (roinds 2 or 3).

Always McGowen or what about Tebow a former 1st round draft pick.


I'll get mi coat and stop fishing ;)

ArlingtonTexan
01-02-2014, 04:50 PM
Average to ok QB who is among the overpaid.

Showtime100
01-02-2014, 05:43 PM
When I saw the thread title I honestly thought it was a joke. Horrible signing by the Bears. Just for clarification, aside from it being Cutler, a yawn of a QB, the amount and length of the deal is the horrible part.

Dutchrudder
01-02-2014, 06:30 PM
Lol, great deal Chicago!

TheIronDuke
01-02-2014, 06:36 PM
Biggest waste of money on an overrated QB since Flacco.

thunderkyss
01-02-2014, 07:23 PM
I don't hate Cutler. I just didn't want to see him in Texans gear.

Yeah, because winning sucks.

Now we(armchair GMs) are going to throw names like Freeman, Hoyer, & Cassell out there. Maybe we trade for Flynn, or Mallet, maybe Cousins.

I do not want to go into the 2014 season when our best QB has never won an NFL game.

chicagotexan2
01-02-2014, 08:01 PM
I'm so glad the Bears took care of this early, if only because I did not want to hear Armchair GM constantly bring Cutler's name up as a QB for the Texans.

I don't hate Cutler. I just didn't want to see him in Texans gear.

Cutler isn't terrible. He's better than Schaub when Schaub was good but I want this team to do better than that. I wouldn't give cutler that kind of money. I don't think he's worth it but the the bears problem now. I thought mccown played better than cutler and was a cheaper option.

thunderkyss
01-02-2014, 08:17 PM
Cutler isn't terrible. He's better than Schaub when Schaub was good but I want this team to do better than that. I wouldn't give cutler that kind of money. I don't think he's worth it but the the bears problem now. I thought mccown played better than cutler and was a cheaper option.

The idea was never for Cutler to be our future QB. If we signed him at all, he would only have been here for one year. We would have drafted a rookie QB. Cutler, the Rookie, & Case would compete for the starting job. Whoever wins, wins.

But we need a QB on this roster who has won in the NFL. Otherwise, imo, a competition between Keenum & the rookie is a competition between two of the lesser evils.

McNair said we're not rebuilding.

If we were able to sign Mallet for 4 years, we'd have a better chance at winning 10 games than taking a chance & just going with Bridgewater.

toronto
01-02-2014, 08:59 PM
Biggest waste of money on an overrated QB since Flacco.

Flaccos accomplished more by far in the pros. (and I'm no Raven fan)

That deal is just LOL bad. Their funeral...

TheIronDuke
01-02-2014, 09:00 PM
The idea was never for Cutler to be our future QB. If we signed him at all, he would only have been here for one year. We would have drafted a rookie QB. Cutler, the Rookie, & Case would compete for the starting job. Whoever wins, wins.

But we need a QB on this roster who has won in the NFL. Otherwise, imo, a competition between Keenum & the rookie is a competition between two of the lesser evils.

McNair said we're not rebuilding.

If we were able to sign Mallet for 4 years, we'd have a better chance at winning 10 games than taking a chance & just going with Bridgewater.

What exactly about Mallett's illustrious career of 1 completion in 4 attempts and a pick who was a third round pick, really makes you say with a straight face that he'd give us a better chance than the near unanimous thought of best QB in the draft? You are aware that rookies CAN take teams to the playoffs, right?

Also, why are people even wanting Mallett? Dude is stupid.

WolverineFan
01-02-2014, 09:02 PM
Way, way too much money for Cutler but I understand why Chicago felt they needed to lock him up. Good thing the deal is front loaded so they can release him in 3 years when he's not worth that money anymore (if he ever was).

toronto
01-02-2014, 09:07 PM
What exactly about Mallett's illustrious career of 1 completion in 4 attempts and a pick who was a third round pick, really makes you say with a straight face that he'd give us a better chance than the near unanimous thought of best QB in the draft? You are aware that rookies CAN take teams to the playoffs, right?

Also, why are people even wanting Mallett? Dude is stupid.

Just the usual assumption that an association to Brady/Belichick automatically means success...

bah007
01-02-2014, 09:40 PM
Thank God they made this stupid move instead of us. Saves me from a couple more months of the Cutler to Houston stuff.

chicagotexan2
01-02-2014, 11:56 PM
Way, way too much money for Cutler but I understand why Chicago felt they needed to lock him up. Good thing the deal is front loaded so they can release him in 3 years when he's not worth that money anymore (if he ever was).

If the bears can get a half way decent defense they can make a run. The window is short because forte is outstanding but he he's overworked, they have the WRs too. I would rather franchise cutler for another season before giving him that much guaranteed money.

Marcus
01-03-2014, 01:22 AM
How quickly we forget the David Carr days . . :runaway:

What veteran QB worth his salt is going to want to come here knowing that his role will be just to fill in while the the high priced rookie is groomed.

If we take a QB high in the draft, even if it's a trade down out of 1.1, he starts on opening day. There won't be any "competition". This is why I don't want to them to draft any QB in the 1st round.

Regarding Cutler . . . Thank you God for making the Bears FO lose their minds.

steelbtexan
01-03-2014, 01:28 AM
4) Trade for a vet and groom a draft pick

Mallett?

michaelm
01-03-2014, 02:03 AM
How quickly we forget the David Carr days . . :runaway:

What veteran QB worth his salt is going to want to come here knowing that his role will be just to fill in while the the high priced rookie is groomed.

If we take a QB high in the draft, even if it's a trade down out of 1.1, he starts on opening day. There won't be any "competition". This is why I don't want to them to draft any QB in the 1st round.

Regarding Cutler . . . Thank you God for making the Bears FO lose their minds.

Free agency begins about two months before the draft, so a vet QB signed before the draft won't know for certain that there will be a rookie QB to compete against.

steelbtexan
01-03-2014, 02:11 AM
Cutler is a diabetic and his play reflects his inslulin levels. UP/Down

disaacks3
01-03-2014, 09:32 AM
When I saw the thread title I honestly thought it was a joke. Horrible signing by the Bears. Just for clarification, aside from it being Cutler, a yawn of a QB, the amount and length of the deal is the horrible part. Yeah, 3-4 year back-loaded deal I can see, but this is ridiculous.

Yeah, because winning sucks.

Now we(armchair GMs) are going to throw names like Freeman, Hoyer, & Cassell out there. Maybe we trade for Flynn, or Mallet, maybe Cousins.

I do not want to go into the 2014 season when our best QB has never won an NFL game. 56-48 - Yeah, he's technically a winner. (Then again, so is Schaub)

Cutler is a middle-of-the-road guy who never earned his #11 overall pick. Is he a stop-gap? Sure. Let's not act like he's some sort of top-tier guy.

Marcus
01-03-2014, 04:13 PM
Free agency begins about two months before the draft, so a vet QB signed before the draft won't know for certain that there will be a rookie QB to compete against.

:lol: well, if he's gonna have his head that far up his ass, we really don't need him on the team anyway.

thunderkyss
01-03-2014, 08:00 PM
Cutler is a middle-of-the-road guy who never earned his #11 overall pick. Is he a stop-gap? Sure. Let's not act like he's some sort of top-tier guy.

Don't think for a second I'm suggesting that Jay Cutler could have been the savior of this franchise.

As it stands right now, we might win 5 games next season. Some of us are ok with that, because we're rebuilding.

I... refuse to believe we are rebuilding. Bob said we are not rebuilding. I would like to sign a veteran QB who has won a few games in the NFL. Cutler fit that bill. Cutler was also the best projected QB this FA period... Actually Schaub is, but we know that shouldn't happen.

& it made sense to me that Cutler would be open to a one year deal (but he just signed for 7 years, so obviously I don't know what I'm talking about).

Next on my list is Josh Freeman, then Brian Hoyer, then I hope they trade for someone.

TheDrifter
01-03-2014, 09:13 PM
Next on my list is Josh Freeman, then Brian Hoyer

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

TheIronDuke
01-03-2014, 09:14 PM
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

I didn't get past reading that Schaub is better than Cutler, wtf?

ChampionTexan
01-03-2014, 11:25 PM
Next on my list is Josh Freeman, then Brian Hoyer, then I hope they trade for someone.

Hoyer's under contract to the Browns, and Josh Freeman is...well, he's Josh Freeman.

If you're looking for a one (or maybe even two) year guy, I think I'd be trying to talk to Josh McCown (assuming he's not going to retire).

TheDrifter
01-03-2014, 11:43 PM
Hoyer's under contract to the Browns, and Josh Freeman is...well, he's Josh Freeman.

If you're looking for a one (or maybe even two) year guy, I think I'd be trying to talk to Josh McCown (assuming he's not going to retire).

Josh McCown is really not that good. (But neither are Hoyer or Freeman.)

But he's a Bearkat...so I'll support it.

bah007
01-04-2014, 12:21 AM
If all we want is a one year rental then why not take a look at Vick? He's likely to make it just as far into the season as Cutler is before they both get hurt.

thunderkyss
01-04-2014, 12:34 AM
If all we want is a one year rental then why not take a look at Vick? He's likely to make it just as far into the season as Cutler is before they both get hurt.

I like Vick, but I think he brings too much media.


I think a pro team should be able to handle it, but I don't want to deal with it.

Playoffs
01-06-2014, 02:23 PM
No signing bonus for Cutler, high base salaries, $54 million guaranteed (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-Jay-Cutlers-1267-million-contract.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

The details are in for Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler's seven-year, $126.7 million contract.

According to a league source, the deal doesn't include a signing bonus and has $54 million in total guaranteed money.

The deal averages $18.1 million per year.


In 2014, Cutler has a $22.5 million base salary and salary-cap figure with $2.5 million of his base salary deferred until March 30, 2014 in addition to another $2.5 million paid out over the 2015 regular season.

In 2015, Cutler has a $15.5 million base salary guaranteed and salary-cap figure.

In 2016, Cutler has a $16 million base salary and salary-cap figure.

In 2017, Cutler is due a $12.5 million nonguaranteed base salary and a $15 million salary-cap figure. He has $2.5 million in per-game roster bonus paid out for $156,250 for every game he's active.
In 2018, he has a $13.5 million nonguaranteed base salary with a $16 million salary-cap figure. That includes the same $2.5 million per-game roster bonus.
In 2019, he has a $17.5 million nonguaranteed base salary with a $20 million salary-cap figure. It has the same $2.5 million per-game roster bonus.
In 2020, Cutler has a $19.2 million base salary plus $2.5 million per-game roster bonus.

Dutchrudder
01-06-2014, 02:46 PM
So it's essentially a 3 year, 54 million dollar deal. Kind of like Schaub's actually, but no lingering caphits beyond the "prove it" year. 18m APY is really high though, so it's still not a good deal for the team.

Blake
01-06-2014, 03:06 PM
If all we want is a one year rental then why not take a look at Vick? He's likely to make it just as far into the season as Cutler is before they both get hurt.

Thats my thought process too. I think McCown is going to want a multi year deal and we only need a guy for 8 games, maybe 16 until Teddy is ready.

thunderkyss
01-06-2014, 07:35 PM
So it's essentially a 3 year, 54 million dollar deal. Kind of like Schaub's actually, but no lingering caphits beyond the "prove it" year. 18m APY is really high though, so it's still not a good deal for the team.

It's a one year deal.

If he doesn't prove worthy to keep beyond 2014, they can cut him & not pay him a dime, not have any dead money on the books. Unless that salary for 2015 is truly guaranteed. I know they said "guaranteed" but it's funny how they sometimes mean "guaranteed." Maybe they're saying guaranteed in case of injury. But with his history, I don't know why they would do that. Guaranteed as in if he makes the day 1 roster, he gets paid. But they can release him prior to day 1 if they want to save money.

A player's base salary is usually not guaranteed. The player only makes that money if he's on a team's roster for that particular season.

When you see a player sign a five-year or six-year deal, the base salaries are routinely included when the total amount of the deal is discussed. However, unless the player is actually on the roster to start the regular season in that particular year he doesn't get that money unless it's been specifically dealt with in the language of the contract.

And that's rare for a team to guarantee somebody's base salary over the long term.



If his salaries for year 2 & 3 are truly guaranteed (& the Bears are on the hook for that money if he were cut) that would be a very unique contract. I was thinking Cutler was going to have to sign a one year deal to prove to his next team that he was worthy of a long term contract. This, is basically the same, but better. He's already got very good compensation for years 2 & 3 already negotiated.

Dutchrudder
01-07-2014, 12:59 PM
It's a one year deal.

If he doesn't prove worthy to keep beyond 2014, they can cut him & not pay him a dime, not have any dead money on the books. Unless that salary for 2015 is truly guaranteed. I know they said "guaranteed" but it's funny how they sometimes mean "guaranteed." Maybe they're saying guaranteed in case of injury. But with his history, I don't know why they would do that. Guaranteed as in if he makes the day 1 roster, he gets paid. But they can release him prior to day 1 if they want to save money.




If his salaries for year 2 & 3 are truly guaranteed (& the Bears are on the hook for that money if he were cut) that would be a very unique contract. I was thinking Cutler was going to have to sign a one year deal to prove to his next team that he was worthy of a long term contract. This, is basically the same, but better. He's already got very good compensation for years 2 & 3 already negotiated.

Have you read anything specific to Cutler's deal that would support that statement? If not, then it's contract where the first 54m is guaranteed.

thunderkyss
01-07-2014, 09:54 PM
Have you read anything specific to Cutler's deal that would support that statement? If not, then it's contract where the first 54m is guaranteed.

Like I said, guaranteed doesn't always mean guaranteed. It's more like "guaranteed sorta" until we read "guaranteed for performance & injury" it may not be guaranteed at all.