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Pollardized
01-01-2014, 07:40 PM
Ok, who's watching the game? Let's discuss the guy who rhymes with Shlake Shortles and other potential draftees here.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 07:42 PM
I'm in. Kinda excited, according to some we have 2 of the best QBs going at it, hoping for a good game. (Deep down I think Baylor steamrolls)

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 07:43 PM
Ok, who's watching the game? Let's discuss the guy who rhymes with Shlake Shortles and other potential draftees here.

Jake Yortles is the best since Joe Montania .

JCTexan
01-01-2014, 07:44 PM
Looking forward to watching Bortles...

aussie_texan
01-01-2014, 07:48 PM
just flicked over from watch the rose bowl

mussop
01-01-2014, 07:48 PM
I have been disappointed in Petty this year. Though I have only watched him twice. Bortles has impressed me. I still think Baylor blows them out.

Playoffs
01-01-2014, 07:48 PM
Big stage... show or go.

Those are some gold grillz helmets them Bears are sporting.

mussop
01-01-2014, 07:50 PM
I would love briles for OC.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 07:51 PM
Baylor helmets are badass, could UCF argue they are distracting?

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 07:54 PM
Pretty deep ball even though it was dead ball.

aussie_texan
01-01-2014, 07:55 PM
bortles showing off his athletic ability early

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 07:56 PM
Bortles looks quick. Like his athleticism.

badboy
01-01-2014, 07:57 PM
The other two games I focused on Bortles did nothing for me. Hope to see a different player tonight. I just don't want my QB running if he does not have to.

Playoffs
01-01-2014, 08:00 PM
Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler
Besides Bortles, also worth checking out RB Storm Johnson (#8), ROT Chris Martin (#70) and WR Jeff Godfrey (#2) for #UCF

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 08:03 PM
Call me antiquated, but I wish we could see more under center QB play. Gives you a much better indication of footwork and mechanics IMO. Spread is fun and all, in the NFL it has been neutralized already.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 08:04 PM
Two other players are G Richardson and the Baylor RB Lache S.

Texian
01-01-2014, 08:05 PM
Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler

#9 JJ Worten is also worth watching.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 08:06 PM
Petty not showing much elusive ability on that one. Guy is Scott free, you gotta see him and throw it away at the least.

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 08:07 PM
Baylor Tight End #18 Jordan Najvar is my banker's son. When I watched him this year he looks like a great blocker, doesn't get thrown to much, has great measurables. Would love to see him step up and get an NFL opportunity.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 08:07 PM
Safe to say Bortles has better talent around him than Bridgewater?

thunderkyss
01-01-2014, 08:08 PM
Awesome throw while taking a hit. That's what I like to see. Making the plays within the system instead of giving up early to make some "amazing" play.

Texian
01-01-2014, 08:09 PM
Safe to say Bortles has better talent around him than Bridgewater?

TB really suffers having to rely on the #2 D.

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 08:10 PM
baylor, wake up.

thunderkyss
01-01-2014, 08:11 PM
Safe to say Bortles has better talent around him than Bridgewater?

I think Bortles just makes his guys look better than Bridgewater makes his guys look.








j/k

aussie_texan
01-01-2014, 08:11 PM
Safe to say Bortles has better talent around him than Bridgewater?

yes and no. i have watched UCF a bit and there are a lot of easy drops by the receivers.

they probably have more talent but are not very consistent

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 08:12 PM
TB really suffers having to rely on the #2 D.

Huh? Whether you're being sarcastic or not jot sure what to make out of your comment. Do you disagree and state Bridgewater has more talent than Bortles around him?

ArlingtonTexan
01-01-2014, 08:14 PM
Call me antiquated, but I wish we could see more under center QB play. Gives you a much better indication of footwork and mechanics IMO. Spread is fun and all, in the NFL it has been neutralized already.

In that way, Bridgewater gives a cleaner for scouts since basically, Louisville ran a version of a pro WCO offense.

Still, UCF runs enough from under center and in a given week, many "pro" teams now run 50-60 percent of the plays from some version of the shotgun/spread anyways.

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 08:17 PM
I'm intrigued at what BOB could do with Lache Seastrunk in his offense. He could be his Woodhead.

mussop
01-01-2014, 08:21 PM
I'm intrigued at what BOB could do with Lache Seastrunk in his offense. He could be his Woodhead.

I was thinking lynch (the heisman finalist) could be his Wes welker or woodhead.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 08:23 PM
In that way, Bridgewater gives a cleaner for scouts since basically, Louisville ran a version of a pro WCO offense.

Still, UCF runs enough from under center and in a given week, many "pro" teams now run 50-60 percent of the plays from some version of the shotgun/spread anyways.

True.

First play from under center Bortles throws a bad pass. Good dropback, and sidestep from the pressure, but he just chucked it.

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 08:27 PM
Wow nice catch by Jordan Najvar. TD Petty just like that.

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 08:29 PM
I was thinking lynch (the heisman finalist) could be his Wes welker or woodhead.

Lynch will get good looks during the combine and senior bowl at different positions I'm sure. Lache is probably going to go mid 2nd round to mid 3rd if I had to guess. Lache has a lot more quickness and change of direction ability, but I don't know value wise if he's worth it given where he's expected to go.

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 08:30 PM
bortles looks a lot like schaub, physically. good athlete for that size.

Texian
01-01-2014, 08:31 PM
Bortles is looking a little like Andrew Luck running the ball.

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 08:31 PM
i wish UCF would throw more instead of running all these option runs....for this board's sake at least.

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 08:34 PM
Petty has an arm

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 08:35 PM
Bortles is looking a little like Andrew Luck running the ball.

Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttcccccchhhhh .

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 08:37 PM
Bortles throwing into a crowd when blitzed, no bueno.

BullNation4Life
01-01-2014, 08:38 PM
Bortles is looking a little like Andrew Luck running the ball.

He reminds me of another former Golden Knight, before they dropped the Golden, Daunte Culpepper...

aussie_texan
01-01-2014, 08:38 PM
Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttcccccchhhhh .

a lot of people have made this comparison. but to be clear its not in terms of talent but more his physical attributes and the way he moves

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 08:40 PM
a lot of people have made this comparison. but to be clear its not in terms of talent but more his physical attributes and the way he moves

They don't pay an NFL QB on who he runs like .

aussie_texan
01-01-2014, 08:50 PM
They don't pay an NFL QB on who he runs like .

i totally agree. its just a distinction thats all.

http://fansided.com/2013/11/22/ucf-qb-blake-bortles-similarities-andrew-luck/
this sums it up pretty well

ArlingtonTexan
01-01-2014, 08:51 PM
i wish UCF would throw more instead of running all these option runs....for this board's sake at least.

yeah...would not want Central Florida to play to win the game or anything

PapaL
01-01-2014, 08:53 PM
That looked like a Jake Locker INT right there.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 08:55 PM
That looked like a Jake Locker INT right there.

Lol.

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 08:55 PM
yeah...would not want Central Florida to play to win the game or anything

psh, forget the actual game. texian needs this more to keep all of you to continue to take his hooks. :user:

mussop
01-01-2014, 08:56 PM
a lot of people have made this comparison. but to be clear its not in terms of talent but more his physical attributes and the way he moves

He does move like luck. And has similar build.

PapaL
01-01-2014, 09:00 PM
There's another "big game" play errr INT.

Showtime100
01-01-2014, 09:02 PM
psh, forget the actual game. texian needs this more to keep all of you to continue to take his hooks. :user:

Not me. I'm just enjoying the game. Besides, my stopwatch is in the shop. :D :D

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 09:03 PM
Where is texian? 2 INTs and he's nowhere in sight.


:gamer:

NastyNate
01-01-2014, 09:03 PM
psh, forget the actual game. Texian needs this more to keep all of you to continue to take his hooks. :user:

Do not be surprised if Bill O'Brien drafts Bortles. He personally witnessed him beat penn state, right there in person!!!

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 09:04 PM
Do not be surprised if Bill O'Brien drafts Bortles. He personally witnessed him beat penn state, right there in person!!!

kthanx.

PapaL
01-01-2014, 09:05 PM
I don't know about this Blake Bortles guy. This bum has thrown 2 INTs since I tuned in. Can't wait to see Shlake Shortles. I hear good things about him.

steelbtexan
01-01-2014, 09:05 PM
Baylor Tight End #18 Jordan Najvar is my banker's son. When I watched him this year he looks like a great blocker, doesn't get thrown to much, has great measurables. Would love to see him step up and get an NFL opportunity.


My 6th/FA sleeper pick.

He would be a great fit in BO'B's offense.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 09:05 PM
Good throw by Petty. Nice velocity on that ball.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 09:07 PM
I don't know about this Blake Bortles guy. This bum has thrown 2 INTs since I tuned in. Can't wait to see Shlake Shortles. I hear good things about him.

Bortles runs like Luck and throws like Schaub . :kitten:

mussop
01-01-2014, 09:09 PM
I don't know about this Blake Bortles guy. This bum has thrown 2 INTs since I tuned in. Can't wait to see Shlake Shortles. I hear good things about him.

Bum is a little harsh.

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 09:09 PM
this game has been nothing but a fck-up-fest.

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 09:11 PM
I don't know about this Blake Bortles guy. This bum has thrown 2 INTs since I tuned in. Can't wait to see Shlake Shortles. I hear good things about him.

Shlake Shortles in the house!

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 09:12 PM
Bortles runs like Luck and throws like Schaub . :kitten:

Mandrew Schluck?

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 09:13 PM
My 6th/FA sleeper pick.

He would be a great fit in BO'B's offense.

I was wondering about that. His measurables are very similar to Gronk.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 09:13 PM
Horrible pass by Petty, what was he thinking? Blown route?

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 09:14 PM
Excellent effort by the WR.

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 09:14 PM
texian online in 3.........2.........

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 09:15 PM
When we look back at this game in the box score in 4 months don't let us forget that Blake Bortles did absolutely nothing on that 50 yard TD "Pass".

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 09:15 PM
texian online in 3.........2.........

You see Blake throw that 50 yard bomb ?

JCTexan
01-01-2014, 09:16 PM
You see Blake throw that 50 yard bomb ?

It was an absolutely perfect pass too. Hit the WR in stride.

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 09:17 PM
You see Blake throw that 50 yard bomb ?

you know, had he been scrambling while making that pass, he'd of looked like former 1st overall pick Andrew Luck.

Mr teX
01-01-2014, 09:17 PM
Bortles doing his best Eli Manning impression...Someone said he looks like Jake Locker...i agree. Like Locker, Bortles has all the tools, i just dont see much from him in the passing game to think he's anything more than an athletic game manager.

mussop
01-01-2014, 09:17 PM
When we look back at this game in the box score in 4 months don't let us forget that Blake Bortles did absolutely nothing on that 50 yard TD "Pass".

Around here the box score is everything. :pop:

thunderkyss
01-01-2014, 09:18 PM
bortles looks a lot like schaub, physically. good athlete for that size.

What??

Is Bortles 5'8" 330lbs?

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 09:20 PM
What??

Is Bortles 5'8" 330lbs?

indeed, tk, indeed.

Pollardized
01-01-2014, 09:20 PM
Najvar blocks all over the field. Definitely his strength.

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 09:21 PM
This ratings for this game are probably gonna be terrible.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 09:21 PM
you know, had he been scrambling while making that pass, he'd of looked like former 1st overall pick Andrew Luck.

I thought it was Luck hitting TY Hilton .

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 09:22 PM
Pettycopter!!!

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 09:27 PM
Not really impressed with the pro prospects of Bortles (this game!) so far, but this is shaping up to a pretty good game.

I hope we see a game winning TD drive w/ 90 seconds on the clock.

PapaL
01-01-2014, 09:27 PM
Bum is a little harsh.

It's a joke. Started in some other thread when a certain unnamed poster was hyping Bortles as the second coming. Thus Shake Shortles was born.

Wolf6151
01-01-2014, 09:27 PM
Admittedly this is the first and only time I've seen Bortles play, but I'm not impressed. Maybe he's just having a bad game, but he looks like a game manager and nothing special.

Baylor has been disappointing as well.

mussop
01-01-2014, 09:28 PM
That was a strike. And he went through at least two progressions.

mussop
01-01-2014, 09:29 PM
It's a joke. Started in some other thread when a certain unnamed poster was hyping Bortles as the second coming. Thus Shake Shortles was born.

Gotcha

mussop
01-01-2014, 09:31 PM
Nice job keeping the drive alive by Bortles.

mussop
01-01-2014, 09:33 PM
A fifty yard and now a 34 yard TD pass by Bortles!! :kitten:

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 09:33 PM
another bomb for shortles.

eriadoc
01-01-2014, 09:33 PM
We should draft Hall #1! When's the last time we had a good slot receiver?

<joke, people>

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 09:34 PM
LOL, Totally bailed out of a horrible pass that should have ended the drive. That ball was RIFLED hard in the wrong direction and was uncatchable, bad flag IMO.

Of Course he scores a TD on what should have been a drive ender on another "screen" pass or whatever that 2 yard pass is classified as. His box score stats are growing, but I am NOT impressed one bit so far.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 09:34 PM
Blitz Bortles and he seems to struggle.

Another great individual effort by his receiver as I type.

For comparisons sake Teddy B completes like 65% of his passes when blitzed, and he has nowhere near the caliber of receivers that Bortles seems to have, that Hall guy is killing Baylor.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 09:34 PM
A fifty yard and now a 34 yard TD pass by Bortles!! :kitten:

Blake Futbol

badboy
01-01-2014, 09:35 PM
Nothing outstanding for me so far but he does have strong arm. I still take McCarron in second over Bortles in first. Still, another half to go.

dtran04
01-01-2014, 09:35 PM
College QBs nowadays just throw screens and seam routes off of that. So difficult to assess.

mussop
01-01-2014, 09:37 PM
Blitz Bortles and he seems to struggle.

Another great individual effort by his receiver as I type.

For comparisons sake Teddy B completes like 65% of his passes when blitzed, and he has nowhere near the caliber of receivers that Bortles seems to have, that Hall guy is killing Baylor.

Honestly your head is so far up Teddy's ass there is no way you are going to give Bortles an unbiased grade.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 09:40 PM
I think the sideline reporter isn't as fast as Jennifer Hale .

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 09:41 PM
Honestly your head is so far up Teddy's ass there is no way you are going to give Bortles an unbiased grade.

You mad?

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 09:42 PM
Honestly your head is so far up Teddy's ass there is no way you are going to give Bortles an unbiased grade.

Seriously, what the hell is Rico watching anyway? We are all watching those 2 monster TD bombs when he hit his receiver in stride. What's not to like in this guy?

bah007
01-01-2014, 09:46 PM
I know I lack Texian's charm but one day you guys are going to start listening to me.

PapaL
01-01-2014, 09:48 PM
I know I lack Texian's charm but one day you guys are going to start listening to me.

About?

bah007
01-01-2014, 09:53 PM
About?

This year's QB class.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 09:59 PM
Haha that bit with Kimmel and Erik Estrada made me chuckle.

mussop
01-01-2014, 10:02 PM
You mad?

Not at all. It's just annoying how everyone has already made their minds up on who they think we should take and go out of their way to dog everyone one else. You see it from the Manziel fans about Teddy. You see it from Teddy fans about Manziel. Now it's spilled over to Bortles.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 10:04 PM
This year's QB class.

2 horse race to me .

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 10:08 PM
Not at all. It's just annoying how everyone has already made their minds up on who they think we should take and go out of their way to dog everyone one else. You see it from the Manziel fans about Teddy. You see it from Teddy fans about Manziel. Now it's spilled over to Bortles.

For what its worth I think Manziel is the second best QB so maybe that will really piss some people off.

bah007
01-01-2014, 10:11 PM
Not at all. It's just annoying how everyone has already made their minds up on who they think we should take and go out of their way to dog everyone one else. You see it from the Manziel fans about Teddy. You see it from Teddy fans about Manziel. Now it's spilled over to Bortles.

This is the part that gets me. I understand that people have their favorites. I do. But it's hilarious that everyone else automatically sucks because he's not my favorite.

bah007
01-01-2014, 10:12 PM
2 horse race to me .

I have a feeling we're on the same page.

mussop
01-01-2014, 10:16 PM
For what its worth I think Manziel is the second best QB so maybe that will really piss some people off.

I think all three of these guys have their strong suits. Who knows which one will will be the glimmer in BO'Bs eye. Whichever one he picks is fine with me. I'm just happy we finally are out of that mess we've been in for the last 5 years. I never liked Schaub. Never fully believed in him. I'll take any of these guys in a new system over that mess ANYDAY.

PapaL
01-01-2014, 10:18 PM
This is turning out to be a decent game so far.

mussop
01-01-2014, 10:19 PM
This is the part that gets me. I understand that people have their favorites. I do. But it's hilarious that everyone else automatically sucks because he's not my favorite.

Yes it's getting annoying. Every incompletion is criticized. We should all be happy that we are about to get a fresh start with an up to date system with a young talented new QB. I can't wait.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 10:20 PM
I think all three of these guys have their strong suits. Who knows which one will will be the glimmer in BO'Bs eye. Whichever one he picks is fine with me. I'm just happy we finally are out of that mess we've been in for the last 5 years. I never liked Schaub. Never fully believed in him. I'll take any of these guys in a new system over that mess ANYDAY.

Cheers to that.

bah007
01-01-2014, 10:20 PM
I think all three of these guys have their strong suits. Who knows which one will will be the glimmer in BO'Bs eye. Whichever one he picks is fine with me. I'm just happy we finally are out of that mess we've been in for the last 5 years. I never liked Schaub. Never fully believed in him. I'll take any of these guys in a new system over that mess ANYDAY.

I definitely have an idea of who I think will be the best pro. But I'm not a NFL HC with O'Brien's track record at QB. Whoever he chooses is fine with me.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 10:24 PM
I definitely have an idea of who I think will be the best pro. But I'm not a NFL HC with O'Brien's track record at QB. Whoever he chooses is fine with me.

Ooookay ill bite. Who do you think is the top prospect at the position?

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 10:26 PM
Ooookay ill bite. Who do you think is the top prospect at the position?

lol go read his qb grading thread.

bah007
01-01-2014, 10:26 PM
Ooookay ill bite. Who do you think is the top prospect at the position?

Bridgewater

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 10:27 PM
good play by shortles.

mussop
01-01-2014, 10:27 PM
I definitely have an idea of who I think will be the best pro. But I'm not a NFL HC with O'Brien's track record at QB. Whoever he chooses is fine with me.

The best thing about it is, he gets his choice out of all of them. Even if we were picking second he would have to settle for the second option. If he likes all of them we can trade down a couple of spots and still get one. I love that he has that option.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 10:27 PM
Nice play by Bortles, stepped up and delivered. Recovered from the slip.

bah007
01-01-2014, 10:28 PM
good play by shortles.

Indeed. Awesome play, actually.

PapaL
01-01-2014, 10:29 PM
Nice TD throw there by Bortles

mussop
01-01-2014, 10:29 PM
Bridgewater

I agree. He is the most likely IMO to be the best pro...... As of now. I reserve the right to change my opinion before the draft. :)

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 10:29 PM
Bortles is solid....... I've seen enough of him in his career to know this. Just don't know if I want solid.

bah007
01-01-2014, 10:30 PM
The best thing about it is, he gets his choice out of all of them. Even if we were picking second he would have to settle for the second option. If he likes all of them we can trade down a couple of spots and still get one. I love that he has that option.

That's an excellent point, which has been glossed over due to our collective rush to judge each of them.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 10:30 PM
Bridgewater

Reeeeeeeeally?! Can we be best friends forever and ever ?

Nice pass by Bortles on the run.

Mr teX
01-01-2014, 10:31 PM
Not at all. It's just annoying how everyone has already made their minds up on who they think we should take and go out of their way to dog everyone one else. You see it from the Manziel fans about Teddy. You see it from Teddy fans about Manziel. Now it's spilled over to Bortles.

My thoughts on manziel were solidified long before we locked up the number 1 pick...i wanted no parts of him well before that.


I could get behind the clowney pick, but frankly If Clowney is the best overall prospect in this draft.....#1 he ain't that much better than TB as a prospect..#2, short of him putting together a 2012 JJ Watt season (extremely unlikely), his impact isn't gonna be no where near the impact TB's could be.

The other thing is we don't know what we'll be doing on defense..3-4 or 4-3. I'm gonna guess that Clowney's probably a better fit in 1 vs. the other. Also, i think our biggest problem on defense is in the secondary...Clowney helps that, how much is up for debate.

Furthermore when you have the opportunity to pick the best prospect at any position before anyone else, every teaam in the league not named the Packers, Patriots, Saints and probably Seahawks and 49ers are naturally gonna look at their qb situation before they look anywhere else.

Apart from that, there's a reason teams often reach for qbs...& Our biggest need just happens to be at the qb position. there's a qb rated high enough to be considered for the pick....you just cannot pass up that opportunity to solidify your franchise for years to come.

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 10:32 PM
Bortles looked strong that drive. Got his first real TD pass of the day too.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 10:46 PM
CF would be several TDs short if it wasn't for the 4 pass interference penalties .

mussop
01-01-2014, 10:49 PM
CF would be several TDs short if it wasn't for the 4 pass interference penalties .

Well Baylor should stop interfering then.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 10:52 PM
Well Baylor should stop interfering then.

Some were on poor throws and was kinda bailed out . Yes I wouldn't scout many of the Baylor secondary .

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 10:52 PM
I think someone else called it. He's a bigger Jake Locker. Which ain't bad if he can be accurate.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 10:54 PM
I think someone else called it. He's a bigger Jakae Locker. Which ain't bad if he can be accurate.

A Locker / Big Ben mixed breed or a Locklisberger.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 10:55 PM
I haven't seen Bortles thread the needle or throw into spaces, but he's having a good game nonetheless.

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 10:55 PM
Bortles is destroying Baylor now. I was 100% wrong about this game, I thought Baylor would kick UCFs butts.

mussop
01-01-2014, 11:02 PM
This game may break the 100 point barrier. Who said this game was boring again?:rake:

PapaL
01-01-2014, 11:06 PM
So Bridgewater is a running QB but The Bort is the one running wild?

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 11:07 PM
Laser by Bortles in traffic and under pressure. Good play.

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 11:07 PM
This game may break the 100 point barrier. Who said this game was boring again?:rake:

Too bad no one outside of Texas and Florida cares enough to watch it. Its an entertaining game though.

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 11:08 PM
So Bridgewater is a running QB but The Bort is the one running wild?

I've never known Teddy to be a running QB.Even in high school he didn't do it that often.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 11:08 PM
Baylors defense is pathetic. Reminds me of A&Ms D.

mussop
01-01-2014, 11:09 PM
My thoughts on manziel were solidified long before we locked up the number 1 pick...i wanted no parts of him well before that.


I could get behind the clowney pick, but frankly If Clowney is the best overall prospect in this draft.....#1 he ain't that much better than TB as a prospect..#2, short of him putting together a 2012 JJ Watt season (extremely unlikely), his impact isn't gonna be no where near the impact TB's could be.

The other thing is we don't know what we'll be doing on defense..3-4 or 4-3. I'm gonna guess that Clowney's probably a better fit in 1 vs. the other. Also, i think our biggest problem on defense is in the secondary...Clowney helps that, how much is up for debate.

Furthermore when you have the opportunity to pick the best prospect at any position before anyone else, every teaam in the league not named the Packers, Patriots, Saints and probably Seahawks and 49ers are naturally gonna look at their qb situation before they look anywhere else.

Apart from that, there's a reason teams often reach for qbs...& Our biggest need just happens to be at the qb position. there's a qb rated high enough to be considered for the pick....you just cannot pass up that opportunity to solidify your franchise for years to come.

and why is it you want no part of Manziel?

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 11:10 PM
So Bridgewater is a running QB but The Bort is the one running wild?

Teddy is not a running QB , he buys time but seldom ran it in the season . Hundley ran for 168 yards yesterday , he is a smaller Cam Newton .

PapaL
01-01-2014, 11:11 PM
I've never known Teddy to be a running QB.Even in high school he didn't do it that often.

If you read what some people on this board say Teddy is a running QB. Hmmm...

mussop
01-01-2014, 11:11 PM
Baylors defense is pathetic. Reminds me of A&Ms D.

I don't keep up with these things but I think they are ranked pretty high.

ArlingtonTexan
01-01-2014, 11:13 PM
So Bridgewater is a running QB but The Bort is the one running wild?

Ya know that a white QB can't be a better runner/athlete than any black one, right?

PapaL
01-01-2014, 11:14 PM
Ya know that a white QB can't be a better runner/athlete than any black one, right?

Hahaha. You got what I was saying.

mussop
01-01-2014, 11:16 PM
Ya know that a white QB can't be a better runner/athlete than any black one, right?

Funny Manziel and Bridgewaters playing styles seem mixed up.

aussie_texan
01-01-2014, 11:18 PM
well played son

JCTexan
01-01-2014, 11:19 PM
Nice athletic play there from Bortles to pick up the first down.

mussop
01-01-2014, 11:19 PM
That was a very good play by Bortles.

PapaL
01-01-2014, 11:23 PM
Gotta give UCF credit. They get the ball, drain the clock, and score TDs.

ArlingtonTexan
01-01-2014, 11:26 PM
Funny Manziel and Bridgewaters playing styles seem mixed up.

Yep. And the off-the field stuff is out of control too. I mean Bridgewater is all completing his degree in three years and stuff and Manziel is going all in your face, look at me knucklehead.

mussop
01-01-2014, 11:30 PM
Yep. And the off-the field stuff is out of control too. I mean Bridgewater is all completing his degree in three years and stuff and Manziel is going all in your face, look at me knucklehead.

Didn't even think about that part of it. Actually that seems a tad racist. :mcnugget:

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 11:40 PM
Yep. And the off-the field stuff is out of control too. I mean Bridgewater is all completing his degree in three years and stuff and Manziel is going all in your face, look at me knucklehead.

What's up with that , Steve Urkle playing QB .

Playoffs
01-01-2014, 11:40 PM
McClain has gone on a Twitter tweeting binge during this game. Wine & food surely involved.

Texian
01-01-2014, 11:42 PM
Where is texian? 2 INTs and he's nowhere in sight.


:gamer:

I am right here what you need?

drs23
01-01-2014, 11:43 PM
I think the sideline reporter isn't as fast as Jennifer Hale .

...and as my wife pointed out, has man hands. Geeze, that girl has some sausage fingers!

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 11:43 PM
I am right here what you need?

i missed you buddy, how are you tonight?

Mr teX
01-01-2014, 11:43 PM
and why is it you want no part of Manziel?

Bah007, Wolverine Fan & a few others share my views on his game...you can read any 1 of their posts on him & they echo mine...with the exception of him being short argument that is. The long and short of it though is that i don't think his game will translate....

The NFL game is a passing game now & defenses will respect your ability to run and scramble as a qb but only after you've proven you can do just as much or more damage passing the ball...& he just doesn't pass the eye test for me as a passer; the system he runs hides that very well. He'll be good for a flash here and there, but the splash plays you saw in college will not be there more often than not in the NFL....& what you'll be ultimately left with is what we just saw outta Case...holding onto the ball too long either waiting for that huge window to open up, or him running around in the backfield only to take 10 yard sacks...

The only way i see him being successful is if he gets into another spread system..but even then it's stilll gonna be a struggle for him b/c everyone will be on par with him athletically..which is not the case in college with him right now.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 11:44 PM
I am right here what you need?

I hate that offense when watching a QB .

mussop
01-01-2014, 11:45 PM
McClain has gone on a Twitter tweeting binge during this game. Wine & food surely involved.

What's he saying

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 11:45 PM
...and as my wife pointed out, has man hands. Geeze, that girl has some sausage fingers!

She played on a Seinfeld episode .

BigBull
01-01-2014, 11:46 PM
McClain has gone on a Twitter tweeting binge during this game. Wine & food surely involved.


That and he thinks UT is going to steal Briles away from Baylor.


Sent from the future...

Playoffs
01-01-2014, 11:47 PM
Good enough job by Bortles.

Seems like he's pretty sharp young man. Want to see/hear more.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 11:48 PM
What's he saying

For his new years revolution he's gonna eat more jelly beans .

Trap_Star
01-01-2014, 11:49 PM
is mclain still being "dirty ol' man" with anna megan raley?

BigBull
01-01-2014, 11:51 PM
Good enough job by Bortles.



Seems like he's pretty sharp young man. Want to see/hear more.


I agree he had a nice game overall.


Sent from the future...

Texn4life
01-01-2014, 11:54 PM
I agree he had a nice game overall.


Sent from the future...

From a 1-10 scale I'd give him a 7. Made plays with his feet, but needs some work on his downfield accuracy. He's not as accurate as Manziel or Teddy, but not terrible either.

Playoffs
01-01-2014, 11:55 PM
That and he thinks UT is going to steal Briles away from Baylor...

That would precipitate a 3-week drinking and eating binge that ends with McClain naked, covered in particles of spew and jailed by Mexican Federales desperately trying to negotiate a prisoner exchange to repatriate The General.

Texian
01-02-2014, 12:01 AM
i missed you buddy, how are you tonight?

Good, enjoying reading the thread catching up, funny.

FirstTexansFan
01-02-2014, 12:06 AM
After watching the game, second time I've seen Bortles play, I'd say he has all the tangibles, big guy, strong arm, looks like a prototype NFL QB. But accuracy is not as good as either Manziel or Bridgewater. I suppose that's something that can be fixed.

Texian
01-02-2014, 12:12 AM
After watching the game, second time I've seen Bortles play, I'd say he has all the tangibles, big guy, strong arm, looks like a prototype NFL QB. But accuracy is not as good as either Manziel or Bridgewater. I suppose that's something that can be fixed.

65% on a Big Stage FBS Bowl, no to shabby.

TexansFTW
01-02-2014, 12:13 AM
For his new years revolution he's gonna eat more jelly beans .

lol, I love when I get weird joke references. Well played.

Texn4life
01-02-2014, 12:21 AM
65% on a Big Stage FBS Bowl, no to shabby.

Ton of screens and short passes there. His down the field accuracy is spotty at this point in his development. Not worth a #1 overall pick in my view but he's a top 15 "prospect". Has kind of a bust factor to me too though if you're drafting him that high.

Like I said earlier in the thread he's solid.

leebigeztx
01-02-2014, 12:21 AM
Where is that poster calling Petty a top qb prospect? That dude is not a nfl prospect.

FirstTexansFan
01-02-2014, 12:21 AM
65% on a Big Stage FBS Bowl, no to shabby.

Nope, but it was his downfield accuracy... short stuff, looked great. And his receivers got a ton of YAC tonight. I wonder if that hasn't made his overall stats padded?

steelbtexan
01-02-2014, 12:27 AM
Where is that poster calling Petty a top qb prospect? That dude is not a nfl prospect.

I am here and I will admit Petty played a terrible game tonight. He's had a great season though and has a great skill set.

Petty's accuracy was off tonight.

Texn4life
01-02-2014, 12:31 AM
I am here and I will admit Petty played a terrible game tonight. He's had a great season though and has a great skill set.

Petty's accuracy was off tonight.

I'll defend you some here. They said tonight Petty hadn't started a game in 4 or 5 years since his hs senior year. I think he'll be a potential 1st round prospect after next year.

thunderkyss
01-02-2014, 01:03 AM
Ton of screens and short passes there. His down the field accuracy is spotty at this point in his development. Not worth a #1 overall pick in my view but he's a top 15 "prospect". Has kind of a bust factor to me too though if you're drafting him that high.

Like I said earlier in the thread he's solid.

I've been checking him out on the internet (kinda got distracted with his girlfriend for a couple of hours... or three). This is the second game I've seen him play.

I like him. I love his size & his mobility for that size. I like his ability to throw on the run. I like his throwing motion. I think he makes good decisions.


But Baylor's defense didn't impress me much & the other game was against the Cougars.

However, I don't think he plays particularly fast & he may have trouble adjusting to the speed of the NFL. From what I know, I don't know if he'll be ready to play in 2014, so I can't give him a first round grade. I was hoping he'd be a possibility early in the second. But if he won't be ready to play in a year (not that I want him to) I can't see spending a second.

But whoever picks him will be able to sit down & talk to him, talk to his coaches, work him out, test him. They may have information I don't have & decide he's ready to start day 1 (which would make him a 1st round pick).

Had he played at a major school in a major program I'd feel better about his two years at UCF... but I really like his story & he seems to be a special person.

mussop
01-02-2014, 06:28 AM
That and he thinks UT is going to steal Briles away from Baylor.


Sent from the future...

How funny. He's been going on the radio for weeks saying, Briles isn't going anywhere. No way! Wrong as usual.

Blake
01-02-2014, 08:14 AM
Watched 3 quarters last night. Kid performed exactly like we thought he would. Threw a couple of unnecessary picks. But also had poise, kept fighting and found a way to win. I still think he could use an extra year in college, but I think Bortles will be very tempted to come out this year with only a few big time QBs declaring so far. Hundley for sure going back to UCLA might push him over the edge.

Right now I think he would be taken in the top 15 below Teddy B and Manziel.

thunderkyss
01-02-2014, 09:49 AM
Watched 3 quarters last night. Kid performed exactly like we thought he would. Threw a couple of unnecessary picks.

I didn't see all the interceptions.

I saw the first one.
A deep pass into single coverage. Not grossly overthrown, imo. If his receiver was a little more agressive & possessed the skills of an Andre/Calvin Johnson, the talent of a DeAndre Hopkins or Hakim Nicks, or the size of a Rob Gronkowsky, we'd be saying that was a perfect pass. Nothing wrong at all with the decision to throw the ball. I question the location, but we're talking about "pin-point" accuracy to be a better thrown ball.

The second one.
He was under duress. Threw a less than perfect pass under less than ideal circumstances. A decision I'd rather not see made. But the ball was tipped. another 1/4 of an inch higher; it's not tipped, it's not intercepted, there's no gain. I'd have rather he thrown it directly at the receiver's feet.

Dutchrudder
01-02-2014, 09:53 AM
Well, if you want to pick apart Bortles bowl game, I'd start with pointing out that 2 of his TD passes were WR screens behind the LOS that went for a total of about 80 yards. The WR Ranell Hall did a great job of fighting all the way to the end zone.

Playoffs
01-02-2014, 09:54 AM
...If his receiver... possessed the skills of an Andre/Calvin Johnson... or the size of a Rob Gronkowsky, we'd be saying that was a perfect pass...

Well yeah, but... :devilpig:

The Pencil Neck
01-02-2014, 09:55 AM
I really liked what I saw from Bortles. Definitely nothing to keep me from picking him. I would have preferred him not run as much but you gotta do what you gotta do and he made some nice throws on the run. He didn't let those two INTS get into his head.

It will be interesting to see if he comes out or if he stays for some more experience.

Blake
01-02-2014, 10:02 AM
Well, if you want to pick apart Bortles bowl game, I'd start with pointing out that 2 of his TD passes were WR screens behind the LOS that went for a total of about 80 yards. The WR Ranell Hall did a great job of fighting all the way to the end zone.

Personally I am not interested in picking his bowl game apart. He made the best decision at the time that resulted in a touchdown.

I am not going to make excuses for his touchdowns anymore than I am for his interceptions. He decided to throw the ball under x circumstances and the result was the result. thunderkyss trying rationalize it by saying if he had CJ or AJ doesnt really make alot of sense.

thunderkyss
01-02-2014, 10:15 AM
Well, if you want to pick apart Bortles bowl game, I'd start with pointing out that 2 of his TD passes were WR screens behind the LOS that went for a total of about 80 yards. The WR Ranell Hall did a great job of fighting all the way to the end zone.

I'm glad someone brought this up. With this same thinking, go back & watch Teddy Bridgewater highlights & look at how many times his receivers helped him out. They may not be the most talented bunch, but it is my belief that his WRs consistently got more separation when he went off schedule than the other QBs WRs.

By contrast, Mettenberger's receivers almost never got separation. That dude Beckham has amazing hands & body control.

Well yeah, but... :devilpig:

My main point was the ball was slightly overthrown if at all. He probably expected his receiver to do something he normally does on a regular basis. All we should expect the QB to do, is make good decisions (& that was), take calculated risks (again, not a throw I would advise him not to throw), & put the ball in a good location (that was good location, not great). We shouldn't expect him to catch it too.

Hervoyel
01-02-2014, 10:33 AM
That would precipitate a 3-week drinking and eating binge that ends with McClain naked, covered in particles of spew and jailed by Mexican Federales desperately trying to negotiate a prisoner exchange to repatriate The General.



I don't ever want to see that mental picture again as long as I live.

:toropalm:

Texian
01-02-2014, 11:27 AM
Ton of screens and short passes there. His down the field accuracy is spotty at this point in his development. Not worth a #1 overall pick in my view but he's a top 15 "prospect". Has kind of a bust factor to me too though if you're drafting him that high.

Like I said earlier in the thread he's solid.

and for all others who complain it was all screens and short passes, not that I think it will matter or change anyone's thinking, take into consideration the number of time that Bortles/UCF did go deep (quite a few actually) and the number of times Baylor was flagged pass interference/holding. Baylor did set a record in the number of penalties in a game and most of those were pass interference/holding. It appeared the secondary was coached and game planned to not let Bortles beat you deep. Grab the jersey to prevent getting beat deep......just sayin....not that it will change anyone's thinking.

TexansFTW
01-02-2014, 12:58 PM
Despite not having a "good" game on paper and 2 of those TDs were really all the WR not so much him, I say he impressed the hell out of me and probably did MORE for his stock by the game going the way it did.

I believe if you want to show out and have your draft stock increase as a QB you need 2 scenarios:

1. You manhandle and beat the hell out of a better team like Teddy B did.

2. You get roughed up early, stay strong, bounce back, show toughness and clutchness to come back and get the victory like Bortles did.

First half dude didn't really look that good to me. 2nd half he looked unbeatable and played mistake free football and an inferior team beat a better team. He played strong and led UCF on 4 long scoring drives (3 TDs, 1 FG) and only 1 punt. I think he did enough this game that with this effort, his size and measurables, and a combine I assume he's going to kill, that he will leapfrog John F as the #2 QB in this draft.

It's not that John F didn't have a great game, cause he did, but if 2 QB prospects are remotely close and one has ALL the preferred size and measurables and one has none, the bigger guy generally wins.