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beerlover
12-30-2013, 03:21 PM
- Texans have solidified the #1 selection (unexpectedly) in the 2014 draft & are in process of replacing Head Coach Gary Kubiak with Bill O'Brian (hopefully) who developed Tom Brady in New England among other accomplishments which should ease some worry's about developing a young QB into what this city so desperately needs a franchise QB, above all other Football needs. This is WolverineFan along with yours truly attempt to presume we know something about this years upcoming draft & the prospects who shall fill it. We hope you enjoy our work, as always its a fluid process, but we've identified key components to upgrade QB, OL, DL/pass rush, secondary, LB & RB depth, w/exception of flyer on Colt (plus value & O'Brian prizes big, athletic TE's) are Texan worthy!

1) Teddy Bridgewater - QB, Louisville (6-3, 205)

- Texans fans have been unduly tested over the years when it comes to QB position, so we respect and understand any skepticism directed at prospects for position. However we have both come to consensus that Teddy garners the highest draft grade in his class (assuming he declares for the NFL Draft) beyond any shadow of doubt. He possess the total package of skills needed to become a franchise QB. Both his mind and arm as well as his cool demeanor under stress. He is above a 70% completion average guy that is both accurate and precise in his timing of routes. He gives his receivers the ability to run after catch without breaking stride or putting them in harms way. With 31 TD's to 4 int's in 2013, he is a pocket passer with excellent awareness and athletic ability to move and extend plays. He can play in any system and is one of the few to play in a pro style offense taking snaps under center. There will be many articles written about him now to the end of draft process and QB is the Texans #1 need, so suffice to say, this will assure them of the opportunity to either address this need or use Teddy Bridgewater stock value to trade down and stockpile picks. We are not here to suggest what will happen only that Teddy offers Texans the chance to turnaround this franchise into a winner.


2) Aaron Donald - DT, Pittsburgh (6-0, 285)

- Texans really need to bolster the pass rush in this draft. It starts here. With Antonio Smith set to leave in FA, re-sign Mitchell as the NT or bring in a FA and draft Donald to play Ninja’s DE spot. Donald is a quick, penetrating interior lineman that has experience playing in both the 3-4 and 4-3. He would be an ideal fit in Wade’s one-gap penetrating front because of his ability to get off explosively and be disruptive at the line of scrimmage and in the backfield. His lack of size is the reason he will drop in the draft, but in a one-gap system where he won’t have to face many double teams, he could be a very disruptive force. 10 sacks and 26.5 tackles for loss as a senior and 28.5 sacks and 64.0 tackles for loss in his career. Lots of talk about addressing OLB or NT here, but we feel adding a versatile pass rusher up front is more beneficial. We wouldn’t draft Donald if a new HC moves to a more traditional 3-4, but to make things simple, this mock is done on the premise that the defense remains the same.


3) Morgan Moses - OT, Virginia (6-6, 335)

- OT is the most obvious need on this team outside of QB. With QB addressed already, it’s time to find a RT. Moses is a 4-year starter with 43 career starts under his belt, with the majority of those coming at RT. He played LT as a senior and could have a future there with some development. A massive human being at 6-6, 335 lbs. He is a mauler in the run game who plays with a mean streak and will drive guys off the ball. Great when blocking on the edge or pulling to the outside. If he locks you up when driving it is over. He is also an underrated pass protector. Good technique and good hand use. Has a strong anchor, but needs to work on his flexibility because he tends to play high sometimes. Does a great job of using his length when pass protecting and has great feet when sliding. More athletic than you would expect from a guy his size, but needs to drop a little bit of weight to maximize his athleticism. Should be a quality option to start at RT from day one.


4) Jonathan Dowling - S, Western Kentucky (6-3, 200)

- Texans need depth in the secondary and a possible replacement for Danieal Manning. Dowling is a former Florida recruit. Transferred to WKU after his freshman year. 2-year starter and 2-time 1st Team All-Sun Belt selection. A big hitter who excels in zone coverage. Has good instincts and does a great job of reading the QB and anticipating the throw. Aggressive in the box and does a good job of staying off blocks and maintaining leverage. At 6-3, 200 lbs he has the size to matchup with TE’s and the athleticism to cover WR’s. Because of his instincts, range, and closing speed he has potential as a FS in the NFL. He could be groomed as Manning’s replacement at FS with Swearinger locking down the job at SS. In 2 years at WKU he had 135 tackles, 9 interceptions, 14 pass deflections, and 8 forced fumbles.


5a) Antonio Andrews - RB, Western Kentucky (6-0, 215)

- Productive and capable feature back to replace Ben Tate. Develop under Foster until ready to take over. Very durable. Rushed for 3463 yards and scored 27 TD's the last two seasons. Can also return kicks and play special teams. Well built, compact with good balance and low center of gravity. Downhill runner with great vision that breaks a lot of tackles. Very good receiver and is dangerous after the catch. Three down back that has starting potential as a pro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiI9NSFijf0


5b) (compensatory selection based off FA losses) Colt Lyerla - TE, Oregon (6-5, 245)

- 2nd/3rd round talent. Dropped because of drug charges (possession of cocaine), will serve his time (10 days), and be required to complete drug program. After which he will be training in Nevada with Dwight Ross of Performance Athletics in Nevada. Lyerla started 12 games for the Ducks in his career, catching 34 passes for 565 yards and 12 touchdowns. Effective blocker despite his size, but also has the frame to put on more weight. Very effective receiver downfield and in the middle of the field. Only started one year and is pretty raw as a true TE because of spread offense. Has tons of NFL potential for team willing to take the risk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2WmPZZ3TWI


6) Brandon Thomas - OG, Clemson (6-3, 315)

- Adding multiple quality O-Lineman prospects should be a priority this year and should help bolster trenches. Thomas is a gig, nasty plug 'n play OG with Tackle experience. Has started 35 consecutive games. Was a 1st Team All-ACC selection by coaches in 2013 and in 2012 by media. Played LT against Jadeveon Clowney and held his own. Could become a terrific LG at next level even possibly filling in swing tackle role if needed.


7) Jordan Zumwalt - ILB, UCLA (6-3, 240)

- Tough, physical player. Typical of a late round pick who will compete to make an NFL roster. He has good instincts and can find the ball. Coached under Jim Mora. When initially blocked, his motor will wear down anything technically unsound to beat his man and slip blocks. Finds his way to fill at the point and make plays. In pass coverage, he has a good drop and shows awareness in zone. Will have to earn his way through outstanding special teams play. Will get stronger in the NFL and add some bulk, but still should test well at the combine for his group.

bah007
12-30-2013, 05:24 PM
Love the first pick. I think it's the pick that needs to be made, and I think he's worth it.

I love the Donald pick. And I also agree with the assessment that he shouldn't be on our board if we move to a two gap system.

I like Moses a lot. I like him so much that I worry about him being available at that pick. I think he should be, but there is no guarantee. I like Moses in the third way better than Matthews in the first. I think his ceiling is higher.

Dowling doesn't overwhelm me but he would definitely see the field a lot in our secondary.

I really like both 5th round picks. Those are home runs if they pan out.

I like Thomas a lot as well. Underrated player.

Zumwalt is another underrated guy who is overshadowed by the other LBs at UCLA.

In all, I would cheer like crazy if it fell this way. Great stuff.

mussop
12-30-2013, 05:36 PM
I don't see Donald getting past New England in the first round. Just seems like a New England pick to me.

Blake
12-30-2013, 05:46 PM
Good work. I am on board with Teddy B #1. Would you guys consider trading back into 20s for Eric Ebron? I think he would do wonders for our new QB. A HUGE target who can block out the defender.

Also, PLEASE FIND A PLACE FOR JEREMY GALLON!!! (5th round?)

kiwitexansfan
12-30-2013, 09:04 PM
Only position pick I am not sold on is RB.

Starting to think you can get by on UDFA and FA retreads, especially with a decent scheme and OLine.

beerlover
12-30-2013, 09:08 PM
Only position pick I am not sold on is RB.

Starting to think you can get by on UDFA and FA retreads, especially with a decent scheme and OLine.

so you take RB position completely off your board?

NCTexan
12-30-2013, 09:10 PM
Good work. I am on board with Teddy B #1. Would you guys consider trading back into 20s for Eric Ebron? I think he would do wonders for our new QB. A HUGE target who can block out the defender.

Also, PLEASE FIND A PLACE FOR JEREMY GALLON!!! (5th round?)

I would. I think he's going to be an absolute stud in the NFL.

If the price is right though.

kiwitexansfan
12-30-2013, 09:14 PM
so you take RB position completely off your board?

I wouldn't prioritise it I guess.

I was really keen on Taiwan Jones a year or two ago but more as a weapon for returns/screens rather than a traditional 3 yards and a cloud of dust back.

thunderkyss
12-30-2013, 09:25 PM
If the draft goes that way... I'd be cautiously optimistic. I like it, being that we got our QB, DL, & OL..... but I'm not sold on Bridgewater & I'd love to see JjWatt with Mario/Ware (Clowney) out on the edge. Replacing/upgrading Antonio is going to help, but not like getting an elite pass rusher on the edge.


Only position pick I am not sold on is RB.

Starting to think you can get by on UDFA and FA retreads, especially with a decent scheme and OLine.

I don't. But I am impressed enough with what I've seen from Dj & Grimes to take RB off the board. Even what we saw from Cierre Wood.

But I will say I don't think any of those guys alone could replace Foster & it might be prudent to think we may need to sooner rather than later.

steelbtexan
12-30-2013, 09:45 PM
- Texans have solidified the #1 selection (unexpectedly) in the 2014 draft & are in process of replacing Head Coach Gary Kubiak with Bill O'Brian (hopefully) who developed Tom Brady in New England among other accomplishments which should ease some worry's about developing a young QB into what this city so desperately needs a franchise QB, above all other Football needs. This is WolverineFan along with yours truly attempt to presume we know something about this years upcoming draft & the prospects who shall fill it. We hope you enjoy our work, as always its a fluid process, but we've identified key components to upgrade QB, OL, DL/pass rush, secondary, LB & RB depth, w/exception of flyer on Colt (plus value & O'Brian prizes big, athletic TE's) are Texan worthy!

1) Teddy Bridgewater - QB, Louisville (6-3, 205)

- Texans fans have been unduly tested over the years when it comes to QB position, so we respect and understand any skepticism directed at prospects for position. However we have both come to consensus that Teddy garners the highest draft grade in his class (assuming he declares for the NFL Draft) beyond any shadow of doubt. He possess the total package of skills needed to become a franchise QB. Both his mind and arm as well as his cool demeanor under stress. He is above a 70% completion average guy that is both accurate and precise in his timing of routes. He gives his receivers the ability to run after catch without breaking stride or putting them in harms way. With 31 TD's to 4 int's in 2013, he is a pocket passer with excellent awareness and athletic ability to move and extend plays. He can play in any system and is one of the few to play in a pro style offense taking snaps under center. There will be many articles written about him now to the end of draft process and QB is the Texans #1 need, so suffice to say, this will assure them of the opportunity to either address this need or use Teddy Bridgewater stock value to trade down and stockpile picks. We are not here to suggest what will happen only that Teddy offers Texans the chance to turnaround this franchise into a winner.


2) Aaron Donald - DT, Pittsburgh (6-0, 285)

- Texans really need to bolster the pass rush in this draft. It starts here. With Antonio Smith set to leave in FA, re-sign Mitchell as the NT or bring in a FA and draft Donald to play Ninja’s DE spot. Donald is a quick, penetrating interior lineman that has experience playing in both the 3-4 and 4-3. He would be an ideal fit in Wade’s one-gap penetrating front because of his ability to get off explosively and be disruptive at the line of scrimmage and in the backfield. His lack of size is the reason he will drop in the draft, but in a one-gap system where he won’t have to face many double teams, he could be a very disruptive force. 10 sacks and 26.5 tackles for loss as a senior and 28.5 sacks and 64.0 tackles for loss in his career. Lots of talk about addressing OLB or NT here, but we feel adding a versatile pass rusher up front is more beneficial. We wouldn’t draft Donald if a new HC moves to a more traditional 3-4, but to make things simple, this mock is done on the premise that the defense remains the same.


3) Morgan Moses - OT, Virginia (6-6, 335)

- OT is the most obvious need on this team outside of QB. With QB addressed already, it’s time to find a RT. Moses is a 4-year starter with 43 career starts under his belt, with the majority of those coming at RT. He played LT as a senior and could have a future there with some development. A massive human being at 6-6, 335 lbs. He is a mauler in the run game who plays with a mean streak and will drive guys off the ball. Great when blocking on the edge or pulling to the outside. If he locks you up when driving it is over. He is also an underrated pass protector. Good technique and good hand use. Has a strong anchor, but needs to work on his flexibility because he tends to play high sometimes. Does a great job of using his length when pass protecting and has great feet when sliding. More athletic than you would expect from a guy his size, but needs to drop a little bit of weight to maximize his athleticism. Should be a quality option to start at RT from day one.


4) Jonathan Dowling - S, Western Kentucky (6-3, 200)

- Texans need depth in the secondary and a possible replacement for Danieal Manning. Dowling is a former Florida recruit. Transferred to WKU after his freshman year. 2-year starter and 2-time 1st Team All-Sun Belt selection. A big hitter who excels in zone coverage. Has good instincts and does a great job of reading the QB and anticipating the throw. Aggressive in the box and does a good job of staying off blocks and maintaining leverage. At 6-3, 200 lbs he has the size to matchup with TE’s and the athleticism to cover WR’s. Because of his instincts, range, and closing speed he has potential as a FS in the NFL. He could be groomed as Manning’s replacement at FS with Swearinger locking down the job at SS. In 2 years at WKU he had 135 tackles, 9 interceptions, 14 pass deflections, and 8 forced fumbles.


5a) Antonio Andrews - RB, Western Kentucky (6-0, 215)

- Productive and capable feature back to replace Ben Tate. Develop under Foster until ready to take over. Very durable. Rushed for 3463 yards and scored 27 TD's the last two seasons. Can also return kicks and play special teams. Well built, compact with good balance and low center of gravity. Downhill runner with great vision that breaks a lot of tackles. Very good receiver and is dangerous after the catch. Three down back that has starting potential as a pro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiI9NSFijf0


5b) (compensatory selection based off FA losses) Colt Lyerla - TE, Oregon (6-5, 245)

- 2nd/3rd round talent. Dropped because of drug charges (possession of cocaine), will serve his time (10 days), and be required to complete drug program. After which he will be training in Nevada with Dwight Ross of Performance Athletics in Nevada. Lyerla started 12 games for the Ducks in his career, catching 34 passes for 565 yards and 12 touchdowns. Effective blocker despite his size, but also has the frame to put on more weight. Very effective receiver downfield and in the middle of the field. Only started one year and is pretty raw as a true TE because of spread offense. Has tons of NFL potential for team willing to take the risk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2WmPZZ3TWI


6) Brandon Thomas - OG, Clemson (6-3, 315)

- Adding multiple quality O-Lineman prospects should be a priority this year and should help bolster trenches. Thomas is a gig, nasty plug 'n play OG with Tackle experience. Has started 35 consecutive games. Was a 1st Team All-ACC selection by coaches in 2013 and in 2012 by media. Played LT against Jadeveon Clowney and held his own. Could become a terrific LG at next level even possibly filling in swing tackle role if needed.


7) Jordan Zumwalt - ILB, UCLA (6-3, 240)

- Tough, physical player. Typical of a late round pick who will compete to make an NFL roster. He has good instincts and can find the ball. Coached under Jim Mora. When initially blocked, his motor will wear down anything technically unsound to beat his man and slip blocks. Finds his way to fill at the point and make plays. In pass coverage, he has a good drop and shows awareness in zone. Will have to earn his way through outstanding special teams play. Will get stronger in the NFL and add some bulk, but still should test well at the combine for his group.

Love rds 3-7, although I dont know much about Zumwalt.

Y'all already know my feelings on Bridgewater at 1-1.

Donald is the best DT that I saw in college football last yr. I wouldn't draft him before the 4th rd, because I wonder how he will hold up against the run. I want the Texans to get a big run stuffer. These penetrating type DT's under Wade makes me move Donald down the board. Donald could become the next Geno Atkins or the next Mike Daniels.

The rest of the draft is really solid and fills alot of holes. Love Andrews/Dowling/Moses who is my 3rd rd RT. He can play anywhere on the OL, big strong, tough guy, with good feet.

Great job, guys

steelbtexan
12-30-2013, 09:50 PM
I don't see Donald getting past New England in the first round. Just seems like a New England pick to me.

Wilfork/Tommy Kelly/Sapoga (SP) are all huge DT's in New Englands defense. I dont see Donald as a fit at all for the Pats.

thunderkyss
12-30-2013, 09:55 PM
Donald is the best DT that I saw in college football last yr. I wouldn't draft him before the 4th rd, because I wonder how he will hold up against the run. I want the Texans to get a big run stuffer. These penetrating type DT's under Wade makes me move Donald down the board. Donald could become the next Geno Atkins or the next Mike Daniels.


I don't really understand this, if we all agree this is a passing league & the QB is the most important player on the offense. We don't value RBs in the first round anymore..... get a fat boy UDFA & stick him in the game on 3rd & 1, or 4th & 1. Other than that, get after the QB. I think Wade has the right idea, we just need to get better at doing it.

beerlover
12-30-2013, 10:06 PM
Wilfork/Tommy Kelly/Sapoga (SP) are all huge DT's in New Englands defense. I dont see Donald as a fit at all for the Pats.

We have him slotted as a DE to replace Antonio Smith. Eventually because Antonio is really a favorite of mine. Watching Sutton right now Arizona State vs Texas Tech. Big broad dude fits what your after, I've mocked him with 2nd pick but we're more after another pass rusher who can get after the QB. Donald fits perfectly both schematically & value wise. Could go after OLB here too. Was impressed with Attaochu, Georgia Tech & Bridewater teammate Marcus Smith. However Donald was BPA on our board.

beerlover
12-30-2013, 10:07 PM
I wouldn't prioritise it I guess.

I was really keen on Taiwan Jones a year or two ago but more as a weapon for returns/screens rather than a traditional 3 yards and a cloud of dust back.

Foster*Tate*Wood of those 3 who made opening day roster, which one of them was there to finish the season? where was DJ or heck even Deji Karim? so we have a couple of PS players finish season. Wonder why Case was running for his life? because Texan running game went into the tank, gone are the days of running the ball first to set-up effective play action passing game, Texans must be able to sustain a legitimate running game (Houston dropped to 20th from 8th overall previous year). Now Tate has cleaned out his locker, Foster future back status unknown & it would seem prudent to identify some quality backs if they slip. I'll tell you there are quite a few after 1st rd. I would love to see in Texan uniforms. Andrews is kinda splitting best of both worlds between top tier prospects (size, speed, power & vision) with undrafted RB's value, work ethic & under the radar. Kinda hard to argue in our book if you draft a 5th rd. prospect & he is able to stick on your 53 man roster.

beerlover
12-30-2013, 10:10 PM
I don't really understand this, if we all agree this is a passing league & the QB is the most important player on the offense. We don't value RBs in the first round anymore..... get a fat boy UDFA & stick him in the game on 3rd & 1, or 4th & 1. Other than that, get after the QB. I think Wade has the right idea, we just need to get better at doing it.

question for you, if say O'Brian is hired as Head Coach, do you think it wise if he considers keeping Wade Phillips as Defensive Coordinator?

thunderkyss
12-30-2013, 10:22 PM
question for you, if say O'Brian is hired as Head Coach, do you think it wise if he considers keeping Wade Phillips as Defensive Coordinator?

I don't care who is our next head coach, I don't want to see Wade Phillips at Reliant, even on Senior citizen's appreciation day.

I said "Wade's idea" but it's the same philosophy that won a Super Bowl in New York & has been preached by Jim Johnson (RIP) in Philly.

steelbtexan
12-30-2013, 10:33 PM
We have him slotted as a DE to replace Antonio Smith. Eventually because Antonio is really a favorite of mine. Watching Sutton right now Arizona State vs Texas Tech. Big broad dude fits what your after, I've mocked him with 2nd pick but we're more after another pass rusher who can get after the QB. Donald fits perfectly both schematically & value wise. Could go after OLB here too. Was impressed with Attaochu, Georgia Tech & Bridewater teammate Marcus Smith. However Donald was BPA on our board.

If the Texans draft Bridgewater goes 1-1, I hope Marcus Smith or Attaochu are the 3-4th rd pick. Even if they have to trade up to get one of them. If Attaaocu is there I pick him at 3-1 then trade back into the middle of the 3rd for Moses. Even if it means trading a future pick.

beerlover
12-30-2013, 10:43 PM
If the Texans draft Bridgewater goes 1-1, I hope Marcus Smith or Attaochu are the 3-4th rd pick. Even if they have to trade up to get one of them. If Attaaocu is there I pick him at 3-1 then trade back into the middle of the 3rd for Moses. Even if it means trading a future pick.

wish we could include trades or trading down mock but that is frankly "out of bounds" that said there is no question movement off slotted picks is a virtual given so we give allowances for that to happen. This is based of bpa while prioritizing needs to stop bleeding immediately while building for long term success. Texans need to turnover several key starting positions as well bolster depth. Free agency will dictate to some degree which direction they go in regards to needs, but how that impacts draft from now to May 2014 is unknown. Feel pretty good that we identified some solid prospects, 5-6 who should make 53 man opening day roster, maybe more? All in a good days work, time will tell :ahhaha:

steelbtexan
12-30-2013, 11:17 PM
wish we could include trades or trading down mock but that is frankly "out of bounds" that said there is no question movement off slotted picks is a virtual given so we give allowances for that to happen. This is based of bpa while prioritizing needs to stop bleeding immediately while building for long term success. Texans need to turnover several key starting positions as well bolster depth. Free agency will dictate to some degree which direction they go in regards to needs, but how that impacts draft from now to May 2014 is unknown. Feel pretty good that we identified some solid prospects, 5-6 who should make 53 man opening day roster, maybe more? All in a good days work, time will tell :ahhaha:

I get what your saying about trade up/down mocks. On other MB's I cant stand Mocks that also have these unrealistic FA signings too. Thanks for keeping it real.

I agree that atleast 6 guys out of your mock should make the final 53.

TB,Donald,Moses,Lyerla,Andrews are probably starters.

LikeMike
12-31-2013, 03:59 AM
I am a little surprised to not see an OLB and to see an ILB so late - I thought those were our biggest needs on defense (with D-Line a close second).

And it will be interesting to see, how the new coaches value our OT picks from last season. We have two guys with at least some upside that didn`t see the field this season. I totally agree, that RT was a big weakness last season, but if we don`t want to draft one with the first 2 picks this season, we might decide to stick with the ones we drafted last season or go the FA route.

beerlover
12-31-2013, 06:47 AM
I am a little surprised to not see an OLB and to see an ILB so late - I thought those were our biggest needs on defense (with D-Line a close second).

And it will be interesting to see, how the new coaches value our OT picks from last season. We have two guys with at least some upside that didn`t see the field this season. I totally agree, that RT was a big weakness last season, but if we don`t want to draft one with the first 2 picks this season, we might decide to stick with the ones we drafted last season or go the FA route.

Your right but these are positions/needs we believe Texans will target through free agency, only so many picks to address multiple holes. We concentrated on retooling trenches, identifying a franchise QB then adding some weapons back in mix after losing Ben Tate, possibly Owen Daniels. That being said Sharpton looked best of our LB's season end I hope they keep him. Also Brooks maybe moved inside. Zumwalt can also play OLB then you have 4th rd. pick from last year coming back Trevardo Williams. Top FA LB's include Washington Brian Orakpo, Giants Keith Rivers, would love to steal one back from Philadelphia, Nate Allen S, Brandon Spikes New England, Frank Zombo Kansas City, Daryl Smith Baltimore. So they will have options once they clean books to address concerns. Thanks :cool:

rmartin65
12-31-2013, 06:59 AM
I wish I could give a better eval, but I did not watch much college ball this year. Looks good to me though, even if I am on the fence about Bridgewater. I especially like the Lyerla pick- low risk that late, and a very high reward.

beerlover
12-31-2013, 07:04 AM
I wish I could give a better eval, but I did not watch much college ball this year. Looks good to me though, even if I am on the fence about Bridgewater. I especially like the Lyerla pick- low risk that late, and a very high reward.

Thanks 65, best wishes & have a great 2014 :tiphat:

WolverineFan
12-31-2013, 10:09 AM
I am a little surprised to not see an OLB and to see an ILB so late - I thought those were our biggest needs on defense (with D-Line a close second).

And it will be interesting to see, how the new coaches value our OT picks from last season. We have two guys with at least some upside that didn`t see the field this season. I totally agree, that RT was a big weakness last season, but if we don`t want to draft one with the first 2 picks this season, we might decide to stick with the ones we drafted last season or go the FA route.

We talked about OLB and other pass rushers, but Donald was too good to pass up. D-Line seems like the bigger priority if Smith leaves in FA.

As for RT, you can find good players in the 3rd-4th round. Moses, despite being a 3rd round pick, would be the most talented OT on our roster not named Duane Brown. RT doesn't need to be addressed in the top 2 picks because the OT class is deep this year with quality players.

WolverineFan
12-31-2013, 10:12 AM
Only position pick I am not sold on is RB.

Starting to think you can get by on UDFA and FA retreads, especially with a decent scheme and OLine.

I understand what you mean, but Kubiak is one of the few coaches that has relied on retreads or undrafted guys. Most teams are drafting RB's in the mid-to-late rounds and slowly bringing them along.

I really like Andrews and, if we hire O'Brien, he would be a perfect fit for his offense. He loves to get the ball to the RB and Andrews is great in the passing game.

badboy
12-31-2013, 10:23 AM
- Texans have solidified the #1 selection (unexpectedly) in the 2014 draft & are in process of replacing Head Coach Gary Kubiak with Bill O'Brian (hopefully) who developed Tom Brady in New England among other accomplishments which should ease some worry's about developing a young QB into what this city so desperately needs a franchise QB, above all other Football needs. This is WolverineFan along with yours truly attempt to presume we know something about this years upcoming draft & the prospects who shall fill it. We hope you enjoy our work, as always its a fluid process, but we've identified key components to upgrade QB, OL, DL/pass rush, secondary, LB & RB depth, w/exception of flyer on Colt (plus value & O'Brian prizes big, athletic TE's) are Texan worthy!

1) Teddy Bridgewater - QB, Louisville (6-3, 205)

- Texans fans have been unduly tested over the years when it comes to QB position, so we respect and understand any skepticism directed at prospects for position. However we have both come to consensus that Teddy garners the highest draft grade in his class (assuming he declares for the NFL Draft) beyond any shadow of doubt. He possess the total package of skills needed to become a franchise QB. Both his mind and arm as well as his cool demeanor under stress. He is above a 70% completion average guy that is both accurate and precise in his timing of routes. He gives his receivers the ability to run after catch without breaking stride or putting them in harms way. With 31 TD's to 4 int's in 2013, he is a pocket passer with excellent awareness and athletic ability to move and extend plays. He can play in any system and is one of the few to play in a pro style offense taking snaps under center. There will be many articles written about him now to the end of draft process and QB is the Texans #1 need, so suffice to say, this will assure them of the opportunity to either address this need or use Teddy Bridgewater stock value to trade down and stockpile picks. We are not here to suggest what will happen only that Teddy offers Texans the chance to turnaround this franchise into a winner.


2) Aaron Donald - DT, Pittsburgh (6-0, 285)

- Texans really need to bolster the pass rush in this draft. It starts here. With Antonio Smith set to leave in FA, re-sign Mitchell as the NT or bring in a FA and draft Donald to play Ninja’s DE spot. Donald is a quick, penetrating interior lineman that has experience playing in both the 3-4 and 4-3. He would be an ideal fit in Wade’s one-gap penetrating front because of his ability to get off explosively and be disruptive at the line of scrimmage and in the backfield. His lack of size is the reason he will drop in the draft, but in a one-gap system where he won’t have to face many double teams, he could be a very disruptive force. 10 sacks and 26.5 tackles for loss as a senior and 28.5 sacks and 64.0 tackles for loss in his career. Lots of talk about addressing OLB or NT here, but we feel adding a versatile pass rusher up front is more beneficial. We wouldn’t draft Donald if a new HC moves to a more traditional 3-4, but to make things simple, this mock is done on the premise that the defense remains the same.


3) Morgan Moses - OT, Virginia (6-6, 335)

- OT is the most obvious need on this team outside of QB. With QB addressed already, it’s time to find a RT. Moses is a 4-year starter with 43 career starts under his belt, with the majority of those coming at RT. He played LT as a senior and could have a future there with some development. A massive human being at 6-6, 335 lbs. He is a mauler in the run game who plays with a mean streak and will drive guys off the ball. Great when blocking on the edge or pulling to the outside. If he locks you up when driving it is over. He is also an underrated pass protector. Good technique and good hand use. Has a strong anchor, but needs to work on his flexibility because he tends to play high sometimes. Does a great job of using his length when pass protecting and has great feet when sliding. More athletic than you would expect from a guy his size, but needs to drop a little bit of weight to maximize his athleticism. Should be a quality option to start at RT from day one.


4) Jonathan Dowling - S, Western Kentucky (6-3, 200)

- Texans need depth in the secondary and a possible replacement for Danieal Manning. Dowling is a former Florida recruit. Transferred to WKU after his freshman year. 2-year starter and 2-time 1st Team All-Sun Belt selection. A big hitter who excels in zone coverage. Has good instincts and does a great job of reading the QB and anticipating the throw. Aggressive in the box and does a good job of staying off blocks and maintaining leverage. At 6-3, 200 lbs he has the size to matchup with TE’s and the athleticism to cover WR’s. Because of his instincts, range, and closing speed he has potential as a FS in the NFL. He could be groomed as Manning’s replacement at FS with Swearinger locking down the job at SS. In 2 years at WKU he had 135 tackles, 9 interceptions, 14 pass deflections, and 8 forced fumbles.


5a) Antonio Andrews - RB, Western Kentucky (6-0, 215)

- Productive and capable feature back to replace Ben Tate. Develop under Foster until ready to take over. Very durable. Rushed for 3463 yards and scored 27 TD's the last two seasons. Can also return kicks and play special teams. Well built, compact with good balance and low center of gravity. Downhill runner with great vision that breaks a lot of tackles. Very good receiver and is dangerous after the catch. Three down back that has starting potential as a pro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiI9NSFijf0


5b) (compensatory selection based off FA losses) Colt Lyerla - TE, Oregon (6-5, 245)

- 2nd/3rd round talent. Dropped because of drug charges (possession of cocaine), will serve his time (10 days), and be required to complete drug program. After which he will be training in Nevada with Dwight Ross of Performance Athletics in Nevada. Lyerla started 12 games for the Ducks in his career, catching 34 passes for 565 yards and 12 touchdowns. Effective blocker despite his size, but also has the frame to put on more weight. Very effective receiver downfield and in the middle of the field. Only started one year and is pretty raw as a true TE because of spread offense. Has tons of NFL potential for team willing to take the risk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2WmPZZ3TWI


6) Brandon Thomas - OG, Clemson (6-3, 315)

- Adding multiple quality O-Lineman prospects should be a priority this year and should help bolster trenches. Thomas is a gig, nasty plug 'n play OG with Tackle experience. Has started 35 consecutive games. Was a 1st Team All-ACC selection by coaches in 2013 and in 2012 by media. Played LT against Jadeveon Clowney and held his own. Could become a terrific LG at next level even possibly filling in swing tackle role if needed.


7) Jordan Zumwalt - ILB, UCLA (6-3, 240)

- Tough, physical player. Typical of a late round pick who will compete to make an NFL roster. He has good instincts and can find the ball. Coached under Jim Mora. When initially blocked, his motor will wear down anything technically unsound to beat his man and slip blocks. Finds his way to fill at the point and make plays. In pass coverage, he has a good drop and shows awareness in zone. Will have to earn his way through outstanding special teams play. Will get stronger in the NFL and add some bulk, but still should test well at the combine for his group.
1. Know my opinion 2. Concerned about him against run & more importantly how he does against OL. Ninja I believe was averaging 3 tackles/game so not hard to replace despite my positive feelings about him. Think I'd rather chance Crick with a lower pick like Hart backing & maybe cheap FA. 3. Moses is definitely a mauler & would be well suited to a power O. I'm not sure I agree on being under rated in pass protection. IMO, if we retain ZBS he does not start until mid season IF then. I like JaWuan James way more in either O system. 4 & 5 A are good choices although I stopped reviewing W. K. after I went different route on ILB Jackson. 5b How do you convince Bob to take a cocaine abuser? A rehab and "sorry" will not do it. I would not take risk and don't think peer pressure will help Colt. Future washout.

Brandon Thomas is an excellent pick but I'm feeling him going a round earlier. Good work guys and I enjoyed the read!

Honoring Earl 34
12-31-2013, 10:31 AM
I understand what you mean, but Kubiak is one of the few coaches that has relied on retreads or undrafted guys. Most teams are drafting RB's in the mid-to-late rounds and slowly bringing them along.

I really like Andrews and, if we hire O'Brien, he would be a perfect fit for his offense. He loves to get the ball to the RB and Andrews is great in the passing game.

I suspect Bill O will have a Faulk , Sproles or Vareen type back . I like Robert Godhigh if he can catch .

WolverineFan
12-31-2013, 10:35 AM
Moses is definitely a mauler & would be well suited to a power O. I'm not sure I agree on being under rated in pass protection.

He gave up 2 sacks on 506 pass attempts this year. Held Kyle Van Noy, Jeremiah Attaochu, and Vic Beasly to a combined 3 tackles and 0 sacks.

Honoring Earl 34
12-31-2013, 10:37 AM
He gave up 2 sacks on 506 pass attempts this year. Held Kyle Van Noy, Jeremiah Attaochu, and Vic Beasly to a combined 3 tackles and 0 sacks.

Moses parts the defense .

WolverineFan
12-31-2013, 10:40 AM
I suspect Bill O will have a Faulk , Sproles or Vareen type back . I like Robert Godhigh if he can catch .

O'Brien will probably play with 2 backs. He will likely play with a bigger back who can pound the ball (Ridley/Blount) and smaller backs who can catch the ball and play in space (Vereen/Woodhead). The thing about Andrews is he can do both. He's a little bit bigger than Vereen and not as agile in space, but he is great in the passing game and bruising in the run game. Very complete back.

As for Godhigh, I have scouted him. He can catch the ball, but he's usually wide open because of the way the GT pass offense is set up. He drops passes over the middle and doesn't have top end speed. He's a good college player, but I don't see the NFL translation. I do like his vision and the way he cuts so maybe he could be a Woodhead type, but I don't think so.

Honoring Earl 34
12-31-2013, 10:50 AM
O'Brien will probably play with 2 backs. He will likely play with a bigger back who can pound the ball (Ridley/Blount) and smaller backs who can catch the ball and play in space (Vereen/Woodhead). The thing about Andrews is he can do both. He's a little bit bigger than Vereen and not as agile in space, but he is great in the passing game and bruising in the run game. Very complete back.

As for Godhigh, I have scouted him. He can catch the ball, but he's usually wide open because of the way the GT pass offense is set up. He drops passes over the middle and doesn't have top end speed. He's a good college player, but I don't see the NFL translation. I do like his vision and the way he cuts so maybe he could be a Woodhead type, but I don't think so.

I think the smaller quick dudes are better at making the first guy miss on dump offs . DEnnis Johnson fits that mold .

badboy
12-31-2013, 10:54 AM
He gave up 2 sacks on 506 pass attempts this year. Held Kyle Van Noy, Jeremiah Attaochu, and Vic Beasly to a combined 3 tackles and 0 sacks.And he would continue to do well in college, I just have some concerns about translating to NFL. He seems top heavy when I watch and leans forward which helps if he is blocking straight ahead. When the play goes his way he is very good but I can see him being shed easily in NFL at least until he gets some experience. He does have quick feet but seems sluggish (if that is right word) when trying to re-direct. IMO he should sit a year if goal is RT and he would probably be better at RG first season. I would not hate pick but we need to get a starting RT somehow.

WolverineFan
12-31-2013, 11:00 AM
I think the smaller quick dudes are better at making the first guy miss on dump offs . DEnnis Johnson fits that mold .

Yes he does. If you're interested in drafting a guy like that then check out Dri Archer from Kent State. Big fan of his.

I could see O'Brien using Foster as his bell cow and Johnson as his scat back. Mix in Andrews when needed. Andrews takes over for Foster in a few years.

badboy
12-31-2013, 11:06 AM
Yes he does. If you're interested in drafting a guy like that then check out Dri Archer from Kent State. Big fan of his.

I could see O'Brien using Foster as his bell cow and Johnson as his scat back. Mix in Andrews when needed. Andrews takes over for Foster in a few years.Andrews is very good going directly down field especially behind a blocker (which Texans do not current have or at least use) but not so good running around end. I like him if we go Power and use a solid FB.

WolverineFan
12-31-2013, 11:11 AM
And he would continue to do well in college, I just have some concerns about translating to NFL. He seems top heavy when I watch and leans forward which helps if he is blocking straight ahead. When the play goes his way he is very good but I can see him being shed easily in NFL at least until he gets some experience. He does have quick feet but seems sluggish (if that is right word) when trying to re-direct. IMO he should sit a year if goal is RT and he would probably be better at RG first season. I would not hate pick but we need to get a starting RT somehow.

He does play high a lot and that's the biggest issue with his game right now. He is also somewhat sluggish if he has to re-direct. That's why I think he needs to drop weight. He's pretty athletic despite his size and I think if he slimmed down that would help. He looked a lot more athletic this year than he did last year and I think he could make a similar jump if he worked on his body.

As for sitting for a year, I think the majority of guys should sit for a year, but not every guy has that luxury. I don't think there's any doubt that he would be our best option at RT the second he stepped on the field in training camp.

WolverineFan
12-31-2013, 11:22 AM
Andrews is very good going directly down field especially behind a blocker (which Texans do not current have or at least use) but not so good running around end. I like him if we go Power and use a solid FB.

Every RB is more efficient with a lead blocker. Andrews has shown that he doesn't necessarily need one to be effective. Texans can use that to their advantage by bringing in extra WR or TE to spread field or diversify formation. Defenses will have to adjust because he's also a threat in the passing game.

Andrews isn't a great change of direction player in space but he has great hands, field awareness, vision, and makes strong quick cuts which makes him effective in the passing game and on the edge nonetheless. Is he Jamaal Charles? No, but he's proven adept at running inside, outside, catching the ball, and run after catch.

beerlover
12-31-2013, 04:29 PM
Jordan Zumwalt is a beast, undersized yes but plays with heart of a Lion. reminds me of Cushing, in his passion, instincts & ability to step up his play- 10 tackles & 43 yard interception to seal bowl game.

not going to last until 1st pick of 7th rd. my bad :swatter:

Honoring Earl 34
12-31-2013, 04:30 PM
Jordan Zumwalt is a beast, undersized yes but plays with heart of a Lion. reminds me of Cushing, in his passion, instincts & ability to step up his play- 10 tackles & 43 yard interception to seal bowl game.

not going to last until 1st pick of 7th rd. my bad :swatter:

That guy can hit .

beerlover
12-31-2013, 04:32 PM
That guy can hit .

does he remind you of a smaller version of Cushing? if so how awesome would that be....

leebigeztx
12-31-2013, 05:08 PM
Donald is too small to play in the 3-4 and he's really pushing to play 3 tech in 4-3. I gotta see how long his arms are before I slot him. Just as floyd has struggled getting off blocks,he will also.

I would replace donald with verrett or fuller. Top 3 of 3rd, even in a passing league, I like mccullers pushing the pocket and holdng the los. Part of the reason whitney couldn't get to qb was because mitchell didn't get any pocket penetration. Mccullers is a guy who plays with good pad level who will collapse the pocket and take away step up space. That help watt,crick,mecilous,and the other olb. The emegence of poe in kc really helped houston and hali. They knew they could come inside some times and the qb would be in their crosshairs. Jmo

Honoring Earl 34
12-31-2013, 05:16 PM
Donald is too small to play in the 3-4 and he's really pushing to play 3 tech in 4-3. I gotta see how long his arms are before I slot him. Just as floyd has struggled getting off blocks,he will also.

I would replace donald with verrett or fuller. Top 3 of 3rd, even in a passing league, I like mccullers pushing the pocket and holdng the los. Part of the reason whitney couldn't get to qb was because mitchell didn't get any pocket penetration. Mccullers is a guy who plays with good pad level who will collapse the pocket and take away step up space. That help watt,crick,mecilous,and the other olb. The emegence of poe in kc really helped houston and hali. They knew they could come inside some times and the qb would be in their crosshairs. Jmo

He was picked in the 7th so you're not exactly counting on him being a starter . At the very least he'll be a demon on special teams .

beerlover
01-01-2014, 03:39 PM
I'm sorry if there was no cherry picking involved in our less than sexy mock draft. Just boring, research based off this past season of College football along with Texan demise. BEST QB available (will give Bortles a look see, but it's only one game whatever happens) next best interior pass rusher not named Clowney in Donald. Franchise RT (right I know). Safety help (thanks for nothing Ed). Stud RB to give Foster run for his money (or maybe not for HIS money). Athletic play making TE who needs to stop wasting his breath on white powder. Add another inside beast (Brooks) to replace Wade Smith to a miserable injury riddled OL. Athletic play making TE who needs to stop wasting his breath on white powder. Last but not least a demon ILB who simply knock the piss out of you (players).

Happy New Year Texans,

ps: please give WolverineFan some love as this was a joint effort without him not nearly this polished, insightful & accurate (know what I mean):wesmantexanfan:

steelbtexan
01-02-2014, 12:52 AM
I'm starting to get on the trade a 3rd for Mallett and draft Clowney train.

Then trade down in the 2nd picking up a 4th and taking Moses late in the 2nd.

WolverineFan
01-04-2014, 10:43 AM
Well with the Texans moving to a two-gap 3-4 that throws out the Donald pick, who was purely a "Wade 3-4" DE. I suppose I'd change that 2nd round pick from Donald to Ra'Shede Hageman.

Hageman is an absolute beast at 6'6, 310 lbs. Athletic freak with long arms and causes havoc in the backfield. A lot like Watt just not as good obviously. This move allows you to field 2 monster DE's in the new defense and you can sign a vet NT to finish off the front. When facing single blocking, Hageman will usually win. He is disruptive enough that you have to double team him, which means both of our DE's will be taking double teams and keep the LB's clean to make plays. The issue with Hageman is that he struggles to beat double teams, so unlike Watt, he won't still be causing havoc when double teamed.

Honoring Earl 34
01-04-2014, 12:13 PM
Well with the Texans moving to a two-gap 3-4 that throws out the Donald pick, who was purely a "Wade 3-4" DE. I suppose I'd change that 2nd round pick from Donald to Ra'Shede Hageman.

Hageman is an absolute beast at 6'6, 310 lbs. Athletic freak with long arms and causes havoc in the backfield. A lot like Watt just not as good obviously. This move allows you to field 2 monster DE's in the new defense and you can sign a vet NT to finish off the front. When facing single blocking, Hageman will usually win. He is disruptive enough that you have to double team him, which means both of our DE's will be taking double teams and keep the LB's clean to make plays. The issue with Hageman is that he struggles to beat double teams, so unlike Watt, he won't still be causing havoc when double teamed.

What about fat guy in the middle ?

kiwitexansfan
01-04-2014, 02:00 PM
I like Hagemann at that spot.

WolverineFan
01-04-2014, 02:04 PM
Mock has been updated in other thread:

Updated Wolverine/BL Mock (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103672)