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PockyAF
12-29-2013, 04:21 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/0ap2000000305039/O-Brien-to-Houston-Schiano-to-Happy-Valley

cliffs:
interview went well
really interviewed with 4 teams last year, not 2 (if any really thinks he's committed to college football...)
confident he'll get the gig
told his coaching staff to be prepared to come with him

Bill O'Brien
Head Coach

Stan Hixon
Assistant Head Coach / Wide Receivers Coach

John Butler
Defensive Coordinator/Cornerbacks Coach

Larry Johnson
Defensive Line Coach

Charles London
Running Backs Coach

Mac McWhorter
Offensive Line Coach

Anthony Midget
Safeties Coach

John Strollo
Tight Ends Coach

Craig Fitzgerald
Director of Strength and Conditioning

http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/m-footbl-coaches.html

thoughts on the staff?

Lord Bills
12-29-2013, 04:46 PM
im glad its not lovie smith but ive read some bad reviews over at patsfans.com about obrien. a lot of pat fans dont think that highly of him.

JB
12-29-2013, 04:49 PM
im glad its not lovie smith but ive read some bad reviews over at patsfans.com about obrien. a lot of pat fans dont think that highly of him.

that may be a good thing. lots of them don't think that highly of Belicheck too I think

TEXANRED
12-29-2013, 04:53 PM
so we are getting a bunch of college coach's to fill the Texans staff?

Lord Bills
12-29-2013, 04:53 PM
that may be a good thing. lots of them don't think that highly of Belicheck too I think


one thing i do like from obrien is when he chewed out tom brady's arsehole in the sideline.

that shows me he isnt the kubiak lets be best friends ill baby you forever routine that we got from schaub and kubiak.

I like a coach who isnt afraid to call out guys who get paid a lot.

BetaV1
12-29-2013, 04:53 PM
Don't know anything about his staff, but I have no clue how all these Patriots assistants keep getting jobs.

Needless to say, I'm not thrilled about the hire.

CretorFrigg
12-29-2013, 04:54 PM
Don't know anything about his staff, but I have no clue how all these Patriots assistants keep getting jobs.

Maybe because they're not a sorry, moribund franchise like the Texans? They actually win.

EllisUnit
12-29-2013, 04:56 PM
so we are getting a bunch of college coach's to fill the Texans staff?

We had a full NFL coaching staff this season, and look what happened. I dont really care if it is all college coaches are not. I just want someone who will hold players accountable, and jump their ass when they dont do their job. If anything else that right there is enough for me to be happy hiring these guys.

Lord Bills
12-29-2013, 04:56 PM
where is the special teams coach???

ohh boy.....

Lord Bills
12-29-2013, 04:59 PM
so we are getting a bunch of college coach's to fill the Texans staff?

i actually prefer the fact that they are going the college route instead of picking through nfl retreads again.

the college game seems more up to date with modern techniques and knowledge as oppose to the nfl lifers who only knows how to do things their way (kubiak/shanahan) and are too arrogant to evolve with the times.

no more of that please.

PapaL
12-29-2013, 05:09 PM
Who is the OC? The Assistant HC?

BetaV1
12-29-2013, 05:10 PM
Maybe because they're not a sorry, moribund franchise like the Texans? They actually win.

Charlie Weis, Eric Mangini, Josh McDaniels, Romeo Crennel. Truly the names that are synonymous with "winning."

dalemurphy
12-29-2013, 05:12 PM
Who is the OC? The Assistant HC?

If I understand the post correctly, he just listed the coaches and their positions at Penn St.... because he supposedly let them know, as a group, he plans to move to Houston and would like them with him.

There would be a number of additional hires and many of them would not take over the identical title... NFL staffs' are larger. I am having fun looking at the bios of some of these potential, new Texan assistant coaches.

amazing80
12-29-2013, 05:13 PM
Im not for this guy AT ALL. He rode Bradys coat tail for a few years and parlayed that into a job that not a lot of people wanted in Penn St. Sure he helped them through a rough patch, but all he did was make them AVERAGE in a bad conference. The school still had pedigree and brought in enough good recruits to beat up on crap schools and get dominated by better schools. His offensive system is not that great. I will say he is tough and seems to be able to lead guys, but we need a great leader AND an x and o type guy. An innovator who can adapt and hold guys accountable. I just don't think he is that guy.

EVOLVIST
12-29-2013, 05:25 PM
Who is the OC? The Assistant HC?

Wiz is coming into interview and they might offer him the OC job, which would be a win I think. He's not HC material. The same with Romeo Crennel as a DC.

That's too much of a college crew, for O'Brian, and back to the same good ol' boy system that mired Kubiak's tenure.

We need a new WRs coach, but I would be sad to see Chick Harris go.

If I'm Bob McNair I'm going to get the best heads in the room and have the work together. We don't choose who we work with at our jobs. Our boss does that. If we want to win now I don't want to look like Penn State next year.

I'm not saying I don't like the O'Brian pick, because I do. I simply don't want another well-meaning yes man (which, true or false, is what this article implies - I'm going with false - fingers crossed).

bah007
12-29-2013, 06:04 PM
If you trust the guy enough to make him the HC, then you trust him enough to put together his own staff.

TheIronDuke
12-29-2013, 06:54 PM
If you trust the guy enough to make him the HC, then you trust him enough to put together his own staff.

Exactly, we let Kubes do that until he proved he only cared about keeping his friends employed. I'd definitely trust a Belichek disciple over a friggin Shanahanigan.

Seegara
12-29-2013, 07:02 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/0ap2000000305039/O-Brien-to-Houston-Schiano-to-Happy-Valley

cliffs:
interview went well
really interviewed with 4 teams last year, not 2 (if any really thinks he's committed to college football...)
confident he'll get the gig
told his coaching staff to be prepared to come with him

Bill O'Brien
Head Coach

Stan Hixon
Assistant Head Coach / Wide Receivers Coach

John Butler
Defensive Coordinator/Cornerbacks Coach

Larry Johnson
Defensive Line Coach

Charles London
Running Backs Coach

Mac McWhorter
Offensive Line Coach

Anthony Midget
Safeties Coach

John Strollo
Tight Ends Coach

Craig Fitzgerald
Director of Strength and Conditioning

http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/m-footbl-coaches.html

thoughts on the staff?
Will he have his choice on all those positions? I say don't hire him if he's going to bring all his friends. That's something Kubiak would want to do. All those people can't be the best choice available.

Seems OC is missing from his list.

Texecutioner
12-29-2013, 07:16 PM
Im not for this guy AT ALL. He rode Bradys coat tail for a few years and parlayed that into a job that not a lot of people wanted in Penn St. Sure he helped them through a rough patch, but all he did was make them AVERAGE in a bad conference. The school still had pedigree and brought in enough good recruits to beat up on crap schools and get dominated by better schools. His offensive system is not that great. I will say he is tough and seems to be able to lead guys, but we need a great leader AND an x and o type guy. An innovator who can adapt and hold guys accountable. I just don't think he is that guy.

I couldn't disagree more. He got great experience coaching with Brady and the preparation that it takes for them to run the great offense they did. Everything they did in that offense was all about preparation and adaptation.

He has the stones of a leader and holds people accountable. He is the anti Kubiak in that regard. I'm super excited for this HC assuming he gets the gig.

Lucky
12-29-2013, 07:17 PM
Maybe we should wait until the staff is filled before slamming it?

Or not. Your choice.

Trap_Star
12-29-2013, 07:18 PM
where is the special teams coach???

ohh boy.....

you know, joe marciano is available and he knows his away around the city already. could be a good fit.



:photos:

kingtexan
12-29-2013, 07:22 PM
Im not for this guy AT ALL. He rode Bradys coat tail for a few years and parlayed that into a job that not a lot of people wanted in Penn St. Sure he helped them through a rough patch, but all he did was make them AVERAGE in a bad conference. The school still had pedigree and brought in enough good recruits to beat up on crap schools and get dominated by better schools. His offensive system is not that great. I will say he is tough and seems to be able to lead guys, but we need a great leader AND an x and o type guy. An innovator who can adapt and hold guys accountable. I just don't think he is that guy.

Is there not a figure skating board missing an expert?

ArlingtonTexan
12-29-2013, 07:23 PM
Maybe we should wait until the staff is filled before slamming it?

Or not. Your choice.

Well there is the little issue of actually hiring him, also.

DBCooper
12-29-2013, 07:27 PM
Well there is the little issue of actually hiring him, also.

Nah, we just blame it all on Rick Smith anyhow.

amazing80
12-29-2013, 07:33 PM
Is there not a figure skating board missing an expert?


http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/omg_6738d5_830573.jpg

Lucky
12-29-2013, 07:38 PM
Well there is the little issue of actually hiring him, also.

You know the Texans are as transparent as cellophane. O'Brien is in.

powda
12-29-2013, 08:00 PM
I couldn't disagree more. He got great experience coaching with Brady and the preparation that it takes for them to run the great offense they did. Everything they did in that offense was all about preparation and adaptation.

He has the stones of a leader and holds people accountable. He is the anti Kubiak in that regard. I'm super excited for this HC assuming he gets the gig.

I can't help thinking of the bill belichek (sp) coaching tree failures the more I hear about OB and it scares the hell outta me. I think of him as more of an authoritarian manager guiding the ship. In that regard I like what I see...not really the case in an "x's and o's" fashion. I want him only if we can bring along superstar coordinators. McNair needs to flex his will a bit...if you hire OB give him the strongest possible staff around him...from scouts to coordinators to assistants. If your gonna take a chance on an unproven hc at least bring in some proven commodoties in other positions. Mcnair needs to be evaluating the team's power structure or rank and file as well. Has rick smith been spared the chopping block because Kubes had so much say in matters? Wtf? If it is in fact a problem let's fix it. McNair needs to evaluate every reason including himself for a decade worth of failure. Don't assume you fixed anything because Kubes is gone.

HJam72
12-29-2013, 08:15 PM
Just realized I will use the initials BOB for Mr. Bill O'Brien. :tiphat:

Playoffs
12-29-2013, 09:03 PM
I couldn't disagree more. He got great experience coaching with Brady and the preparation that it takes for them to run the great offense they did. Everything they did in that offense was all about preparation and adaptation.

He has the stones of a leader and holds people accountable. He is the anti Kubiak in that regard. I'm super excited for this HC assuming he gets the gig.

Agree.

What O'Brien did at Penn State... keeping nearly every single player after the monumental penalties and disgrace brought down on that major college program... and succeeding in his first year. 2012 Paul "Bear" Bryant College Coach of the Year (http://www.bryantawards.com/about/coach-of-the-year-award/) award winner. Amazing. Lemons into lemonade.

And anyone who thinks O'Brien carried Brady's clipboard while calling plays for 3 years is misinformed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V0hSri6BM

What we've seen from O'Brien is exactly what fans yearned for -- an offense that game-plans for the opponent and makes adjustments on the fly. And a strong willed leader who believes in accountability: his own and his players.

New England was winning with average RBs, one short slot WR, and maybe one true WR. Get ready for some big TE mismatches.

HJam72
12-29-2013, 09:12 PM
This thing about whether McNair should let BOB bring all his previous staff with him. I think he should let him with the understanding that failure gets these guys replaced in coming years. I don't necessarily agree that the best HC always knows who his best coordinators would be, unless you just judge from the standpoint of who would be the best including that. Seems to me that a lot of the best Head Coaches kind of suck at choosing the opposing coordinator; but, if those guys have had success with him, then give them a chance....and give him his chance to choose....once...

thunderkyss
12-29-2013, 09:21 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/0ap2000000305039/O-Brien-to-Houston-Schiano-to-Happy-Valley

confident he'll get the gig
told his coaching staff to be prepared to come with him



& the good 'ol boys roll on. Now we're going to get friends of BOb....aye curamba.

The Pencil Neck
12-29-2013, 09:31 PM
Will he have his choice on all those positions? I say don't hire him if he's going to bring all his friends. That's something Kubiak would want to do. All those people can't be the best choice available.

Seems OC is missing from his list.

Almost every coach gets that opportunity and almost all coaches bring in people that they've worked with before or know very well. The chemistry between all the coaches is extremely important.

Ben Frank
12-29-2013, 09:33 PM
Anyone know anything about the DC he would bring in.. weather he runs a 3-4 or 4-3.. or if he's any good? I don't want our defense to regress much.. would Lovie be a candidate for DC since he's out of a job

steelbtexan
12-29-2013, 09:35 PM
Wiz is coming into interview and they might offer him the OC job, which would be a win I think. He's not HC material. The same with Romeo Crennel as a DC.

That's too much of a college crew, for O'Brian, and back to the same good ol' boy system that mired Kubiak's tenure.

We need a new WRs coach, but I would be sad to see Chick Harris go.

If I'm Bob McNair I'm going to get the best heads in the room and have the work together. We don't choose who we work with at our jobs. Our boss does that. If we want to win now I don't want to look like Penn State next year.

I'm not saying I don't like the O'Brian pick, because I do. I simply don't want another well-meaning yes man (which, true or false, is what this article implies - I'm going with false - fingers crossed).

Good luck with winning next yr. This is atleast a 2-3 yr rebuilding project. Especially if there's a rookie starting at QB.

Playoffs
12-29-2013, 09:42 PM
You either hire a Head Coach who's worthy of building his own coaching staff or you hire some guy you don't have enough trust in to let him run his own team... why would you want the latter? Any coach worth his salt, who believes in himself would tell you to jump off a bridge if you asked if he doesn't mind you micro-managing his choices.

Hire a man and let him succeed or fail of his own merit.

MistaRed
12-29-2013, 09:48 PM
Wiz is coming into interview and they might offer him the OC job, which would be a win I think.

Why would wisenhunt leave San Diego to be an OC here? He's already an OC.

ArlingtonTexan
12-29-2013, 09:52 PM
This thing about whether McNair should let BOB bring all his previous staff with him. I think he should let him with the understanding that failure gets these guys replaced in coming years. I don't necessarily agree that the best HC always knows who his best coordinators would be, unless you just judge from the standpoint of who would be the best including that. Seems to me that a lot of the best Head Coaches kind of suck at choosing the opposing coordinator; but, if those guys have had success with him, then give them a chance....and give him his chance to choose....once...

I would think (at least hope) that O'Brien would understand that just bringing ALL of your college staff is probably not a recipe for success in the NFL. Do I expect a few, of course, but if he is not analytical or connected enough in NFl circles to do more than just make this Penn State south then I don't see how he would be a leading candidate for any head coaching job.

2012Champs
12-29-2013, 09:53 PM
Almost every coach gets that opportunity and almost all coaches bring in people that they've worked with before or know very well. The chemistry between all the coaches is extremely important.


You are correct. I'm not sure why this seems to be unknown by many in our fan base

thunderkyss
12-29-2013, 10:03 PM
Why would wisenhunt leave San Diego to be an OC here? He's already an OC.

& he's got a game to prepare for next week. He'll probably cancel the interview, like Wade did with Tampa Bay.

Especially with the news that it's practically a done deal with BO'B.

I can't think of another organization that would be looking for a HC that has the talent we have, the track record in the draft, an owner as patient as McNair, or the #1 overall.

So I can see wanting the opportunity to make his case, even if the odds are against him.

BetaV1
12-30-2013, 09:37 AM
& the good 'ol boys roll on. Now we're going to get friends of BOb....aye curamba.

One of the very few times I'll disagree with you on this, because...

You either hire a Head Coach who's worthy of building his own coaching staff or you hire some guy you don't have enough trust in to let him run his own team... why would you want the latter? Any coach worth his salt, who believes in himself would tell you to jump off a bridge if you asked if he doesn't mind you micro-managing his choices.

Hire a man and let him succeed or fail of his own merit.

Said better than I could.

Aside from his staff, Thunderkyss, how do you like O'Brien in general?

For us non-fans, there is hope because the Browns had serious interest in him last year and are looking to make another push for him again. Not sure why he would take the Browns job over the Texans, but money talks. Seems most folks at the Browns Board don't want him, but it's hard to tell if that's just the Buckeyes bias speaking or not.

thunderkyss
12-30-2013, 09:58 AM
One of the very few times I'll disagree with you on this, because...


I was actually being sarcastic. I've stated many times that this is the way the NFL works. HCs hire their friends, people they know they can work with because they have worked with them in the past. There is usually some connection between coaches & their staffs.



Aside from his staff, Thunderkyss, how do you like O'Brien in general?


I like him. So far the only knock on him is that Belichick's nestlings don't usually do too well when they leave the nest. But he isn't morbidly obese like Weis or Mangini were, so I'm thinking there may be other differences as well. He's not as unexperienced as McDaniels & it may be the homer in me, but I think we have a better organization behind him than what the Broncos had. You don't fire Mike Shanahan & replace him with some kid.

We're not replacing a Mike Shanahan. We're replacing Kubiak.

Norg
12-30-2013, 12:51 PM
Tell them to bring in a NEW GM has well :P

might has well make a clean sweep Clean all the past cancer away

bah007
12-30-2013, 04:09 PM
I ultimately leave this up to O'Brien but I'd like Hue Jackson to at least get an interview for the OC position. I think he would match up well with O'Brien.

I'd also like to see either Ken Norton Jr. or Steve Wilks get interviewed for the DC job.

I'm not saying these guys need to be hired but I'd like them to at least get a look.

b0ng
12-31-2013, 01:23 AM
I ultimately leave this up to O'Brien but I'd like Hue Jackson to at least get an interview for the OC position. I think he would match up well with O'Brien.

I'd also like to see either Ken Norton Jr. or Steve Wilks get interviewed for the DC job.

I'm not saying these guys need to be hired but I'd like them to at least get a look.

I'd like Horton (DC, Browns and AZ previous 2 career stops) to get a look as well since the Browns fired Chudzinski.

Allstar
12-31-2013, 01:34 AM
Possible DC? (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24392400/nfl-coaching-notes-browns-ask-to-interview-mcdaniels-redskins-eye-jay-gruden) San Fran fans supposedly love Tomsula.

Houston Texans: Houston is focused in on Penn State's Bill O'Brien and a deal is likely to come together in the next day or two, sources said. It's possible he reaches out for 49ers defensive line coach Jim Tomsula as a defensive coordinator (Tomsula could get a head coaching interview at some point as well).

TheMatrix31
12-31-2013, 02:14 AM
I'd love that. I don't know about Tomsula specifically but I'd love to have anyone associated with that SF defense.

Playoffs
12-31-2013, 09:50 PM
A league source said some teams (there are currently six teams without a head coach) are beginning to do background work on defensive line coach Jim Tomsula. He could emerge as a candidate in the next week. As per league rule, coaches in the wild-card round (the 49ers play at Green Bay on Sunday) can’t interview this week.

Tomsula could be considered a long-shot because he’s never been a NFL coordinator. However, coaches such as Andy Reid and John Harbaugh have become successful head coaches after making the jump from an NFL positional coach.

He does have experience as a head coach in NFL Europe. Tomsula, known for an energetic personality and positive attitude, is one of the more respect defensive line coaches in the NFL.

If continued interest in Tomsula develops, he’d join offensive coordinator Greg Roman as a possible head-coach candidate...http://espn.go.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/3922/source-jim-tomsula-could-get-head-coach-looks

DBCooper
12-31-2013, 10:55 PM
Please fire Wade, please fire Wade.................

dalemurphy
12-31-2013, 11:00 PM
Please fire Wade, please fire Wade.................

He will. His defensive philosophy involves mixing coverages in the secondary... So, wade is gone!

Corrosion
12-31-2013, 11:08 PM
Who's his QB ???? .... That'll have more impact on his success than anything else. :truck:

mussop
12-31-2013, 11:08 PM
He will. His defensive philosophy involves mixing coverages in the secondary... So, wade is gone!

Oh no no more man to man all game long. I'm going to miss that. Not!

DBCooper
12-31-2013, 11:10 PM
He will. His defensive philosophy involves mixing coverages in the secondary... So, wade is gone!

Mixing coverages?

Tell me more of this innovative technique...........

The Pencil Neck
12-31-2013, 11:49 PM
Mixing coverages?

Tell me more of this innovative technique...........

Oh, damn.

It's going to be too mentally taxing on our players! They're going to play slower again.

:mariopalm:

Doppelganger
01-01-2014, 12:02 AM
Possible DC? (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24392400/nfl-coaching-notes-browns-ask-to-interview-mcdaniels-redskins-eye-jay-gruden) San Fran fans supposedly love Tomsula.

He has been a head coach in the NFL...NFL Europe that is.

1998: England Monarchs Defensive line coach
1999-2003: Scottish Claymores Defensive line coach
2004-2005 Berlin Thunder Defensive coordinator
2006: Rhein Fire (2006) Head coach
2007: San Francisco 49ers Defensive line coach
2010: San Francisco 49ers Interim head coach (for 1 game after Mike Singletary was fired)

Big Lou
01-01-2014, 12:03 AM
Oh no no more man to man all game long. I'm going to miss that. Not!

Yeh Wade had two game plans this last year:

Game Plan A: Man to Man

Game Plan B: Zone

Never the twain shall meet.

It was obvious things were over when Wade went to the Texans archive and pulled out the Richard Smith tapes and went to the 12 yard corner buffer.

Corrosion
01-01-2014, 03:09 AM
It was obvious things were over when Wade went to the Texans archive and pulled out the Richard Smith tapes and went to the 12 yard corner buffer.

So my eyes were deceiving me when they did that sh!t in week one against the Chaaagers ?!


That's been one of my biggest pet peeves of the entire era .... reminds me so much of the Dumass Capers .... errr Keystone Capers era with P-Burnt playing 7+ yards off the LOS on 3rd & short / X & goal.

Oh FFS .... someone give me a valium. :cool:

Marshall
01-01-2014, 06:40 AM
Just realized I will use the initials BOB for Mr. Bill O'Brien. :tiphat:

Just use BO... or not...

Marshall
01-01-2014, 06:42 AM
You are correct. I'm not sure why this seems to be unknown by many in our fan base

It's not about who he brings with him, it's about what he will do if they fail.

hradhak
01-01-2014, 07:10 AM
I am not sure how much weight I put in the "coaching tree failed so this guy will fail". If the guy fails, it'll be for a multitude of reasons, like personnel evaluation, etc.

We will find out who BOB is when he starts coaching. He's clearly a guy who wants his players to be thinkers pre-game and on the field. I think that was Kubiak's biggest failing is that he called 2 plays and the players could only run those 2 plays on the field. NE essentially kills people every year by adapting on the fly and that's what we need.

Whether that happens remains to be seen.

Grams
01-01-2014, 07:24 AM
I am not sure how much weight I put in the "coaching tree failed so this guy will fail". If the guy fails, it'll be for a multitude of reasons, like personnel evaluation, etc.

We will find out who BOB is when he starts coaching. He's clearly a guy who wants his players to be thinkers pre-game and on the field. I think that was Kubiak's biggest failing is that he called 2 plays and the players could only run those 2 plays on the field. NE essentially kills people every year by adapting on the fly and that's what we need.

Whether that happens remains to be seen.

But it sure sounds more exciting than what we have been doing!

IDEXAN
01-01-2014, 08:05 AM
He will. His defensive philosophy involves mixing coverages in the secondary... So, wade is gone!
Of course coverages in the defensive secondary are a function of the front end of the defense to a degree, but the front 7 is what Wade's all about. He's a man willing to be flexible, wants to remain in Houston for personal reasons, so I don't think it's a sure thing that he's gone. O'Brien will probably want to concentrate exclusively on the offensive side of the game, so he might welcome a DC with Wade's lengthy NFL resume who at the same time is very laid-back type who might be compatible with a firebrand like O'Brien.

281
01-01-2014, 08:16 AM
I am not sure how much weight I put in the "coaching tree failed so this guy will fail".

Agreed. What people may not realize with BOB is that he is one of the only first-time NFL head coaches from the "Belichick tree" that has previous (as well as successful) head coaching experience, which is unlike Josh McDaniels, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Jim Schwartz, etc...

speedfreek
01-01-2014, 11:58 AM
Great, Glad to know we've got another head coach that likes
to put his buddies on the gravy train with him.

Wonder if he has a guy in mind for GM?

Kubiak part deux

Does anyone know if any of those people have a lick of
pro experience?

TJ

mussop
01-01-2014, 12:02 PM
Great, Glad to know we've got another head coach that likes
to put his buddies on the gravy train with him.

Wonder if he has a guy in mind for GM?

Kubiak part deux

Does anyone know if any of those people have a lick of
pro experience?

TJ

No one even knows if anyone is coming with him.

infantrycak
01-01-2014, 12:15 PM
Great, Glad to know we've got another head coach that likes
to put his buddies on the gravy train with him.

Wonder if he has a guy in mind for GM?

EVERY HC leans heavily on buddies or folks recommended by buddies.

MistaRed
01-01-2014, 12:16 PM
Apparently he's bringing his assistant HC/WR coach Stan Hixon with him.

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2014/01/penn_state_assistant_stan_hixo.html

Lucky
01-01-2014, 12:23 PM
Apparently he's bringing his assistant HC/WR coach Stan Hixon with him.

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2014/01/penn_state_assistant_stan_hixo.html
Hixon has 8 years experience coaching WRs in the NFL, in addition to 25 years coaching in college. He has the resume.

gtexan02
01-01-2014, 12:41 PM
Fans here are so ready to complain it's like they lose all common sense.

Didn't the Texans conduct multi-hour interviews?
Don't you think one of the questions was something like "Who would you see filling out your staff?"

And don't you think the interview wouldn't have gone very well if he had responded by telling McNair he intended to create PSU south in Houston?

I don't think Smith and McNair are going to build his staff for him, but I highly doubt any HC would be given such a good NFL job if he didn't intend to use the lure of an NFL gig to get some really talented people here.

Texian
01-01-2014, 12:44 PM
EVERY HC leans heavily on buddies or folks recommended by buddies.

also known as basic human behavior and the difference between a successful HC or being another example of the Peter Principle.

gtexan02
01-01-2014, 12:50 PM
also known as basic human behavior and the difference between a successful HC or being another example of the Peter Principle.

Care to expound? Show me a recent HC hire that succeeded that hired noone he knew

Texian
01-01-2014, 01:00 PM
Care to expound? Show me a recent HC hire that succeeded that hired noone he knew

It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.

DBCooper
01-01-2014, 01:02 PM
It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.

It would be nice to find the next Belichick, you know where to find him?

It's pretty much a stretch to compare just about anyone with Belichick.

And last I heard, he's got a job.

Texian
01-01-2014, 01:04 PM
It would be nice to find the next Belichick, you know where to find him?

Try Jimbo Fisher

htownfan32
01-01-2014, 01:08 PM
Try Jimbo Fisher

And if Jimbo Fisher brought his buddies along with him, would you cry "David Shaw"?

DBCooper
01-01-2014, 01:09 PM
Try Jimbo Fisher

Does he have any desire to coach in the pros?

Last I looked there were a handful of coaching gigs open in the NFL and Jimbo just signed a big fat contract extension.

CretorFrigg
01-01-2014, 01:10 PM
It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.

You need someone who knows and understands your system to teach your system. It doesn't mean they aren't the best and brightest minds. You can't have an eclectic bunch of coaches contradicting each other and coaching our players differently.

gtexan02
01-01-2014, 01:12 PM
Try Jimbo Fisher

Bill O'Brien trains with Belichick but is derided as 'not the next Belihick' before his hiring is even announced.

Meanwhile Jimbo Fisher is?

And all because of one statement?

Texian
01-01-2014, 01:15 PM
Does he have any desire to coach in the pros?

I don't know, you asked me to find you the next Belichick, I obliged. My guess is YES, most all coaches aspire to the highest level. I think Jimbo would be more like Jimmy Johnson than Steve Spurrier.

Lou Holtz told me that he knew in his first week as head coach of the New York Jets that he didn't enjoy it. It was not fun and college was much more rewarding for him. Lou also told me that the reason he was successful is because he knew how to win more football games than his fellow college head coaches.

DBCooper
01-01-2014, 01:18 PM
I don't know, you asked me to find you the next Belichick, I obliged. My guess is YES, most all coaches aspire to the highest level. I think Jimbo would be more like Jimmy Johnson than Steve Spurrier.

Lou Holtz told me that he knew in his first week as head coach of the New York Jets that he didn't enjoy it. It was not fun and college was much more rewarding for him. Lou also told me that the reason he was successful is because he knew how to win more football games than his fellow college head coaches.

Yeah, but you can't be the next Belichick by staying in College.

Texian
01-01-2014, 01:21 PM
Yeah, but you can't be the next Belichick by staying in College.

Yep, some smart owner has to offer you the job and someone will.

DBCooper
01-01-2014, 01:22 PM
Yep, some smart owner has to offer you the job and someone will.

If he's good, some owner or 3 did contact him.

281
01-01-2014, 01:26 PM
Let's get real, guys: NFL coaching is just like any other job; you usually get in based off of who you know. The hope here is that BO'B actually fires under-performing assistant coaches instead of being loyal to a fault and hurting the team's progress as a result.

Texian
01-01-2014, 01:42 PM
Let's get real, guys: NFL coaching is just like any other job; you usually get in based off of who you know. The hope here is that BO'B actually fires under-performing assistant coaches instead of being loyal to a fault and hurting the team's progress as a result.

I am being real, some head coaches search out the best and brightest for their staff and other head coaches reward their friends and their recommendations. NFL coaching is not like any other job, there are only 32 NFL Head Coaches. If NFL coaching is like any other job so is commanding an USN aircraft carrier.

281
01-01-2014, 02:04 PM
I am being real, some head coaches search out the best and brightest for their staff and other head coaches reward their friends and their recommendations. NFL coaching is not like any other job, there are only 32 NFL Head Coaches. If NFL coaching is like any other job so commanding an USN aircraft carrier.

I'm just saying coaches usually hire coaches they know. Kubiak wasn't alone.

thunderkyss
01-01-2014, 03:22 PM
Does he have any desire to coach in the pros?

Last I looked there were a handful of coaching gigs open in the NFL and Jimbo just signed a big fat contract extension.

Low self esteem

Playoffs
01-01-2014, 04:29 PM
Hixon has 8 years experience coaching WRs in the NFL, in addition to 25 years coaching in college. He has the resume.

Pretty solid.

Big question is Wade. I have mixed feelings about that.

dalemurphy
01-01-2014, 04:30 PM
I am being real, some head coaches search out the best and brightest for their staff and other head coaches reward their friends and their recommendations. NFL coaching is not like any other job, there are only 32 NFL Head Coaches. If NFL coaching is like any other job so is commanding an USN aircraft carrier.

I coach at the middle and high school level... While that certainly doesn't qualify me to speak to NFL coaching, here's what I know: coaching, particularly in football, is a highly collaborative effort. Any lack of trust, understanding, agreement amongst the staff at fundamental levels makes the team weaker. Also, as the level of competition increases (from middle to high school, for instance), the importance of collaboration also increases significantly.

I don't think hiring coaching "friends" is about favoritism, weakness, or anything of the sort. Instead, it is about bringing together the best collection of collaborative partners possible. This is a good thing and an important part of staff-building... It is also the reason why I have been opposed to Cowher as the Texans' new head coach- I think he's been away from the game for too long to quickly unite a collaborative group of coaches that could quickly win.

steelbtexan
01-01-2014, 04:40 PM
I don't know, you asked me to find you the next Belichick, I obliged. My guess is YES, most all coaches aspire to the highest level. I think Jimbo would be more like Jimmy Johnson than Steve Spurrier.

Lou Holtz told me that he knew in his first week as head coach of the New York Jets that he didn't enjoy it. It was not fun and college was much more rewarding for him. Lou also told me that the reason he was successful is because he knew how to win more football games than his fellow college head coaches.

You personally know Lou Holtz?

Texian
01-01-2014, 06:03 PM
You personally know Lou Holtz?

Yes, kind of....I hired him to speak at company event. I met him at airport spent an hour with him before he retired. He told me to meet him next morning at 5:00AM for breakfast. We spent 2 hours discussing company info and going over info he could use for his speech later that AM. At 8 am we jumped in back of limo for ride to venue. After his speech, autographs and pictures I took him to the airport. Lots of good and funny stories, many I can't tell here. We had met briefly before this at Augusta National but he did not remember. I doubt he would remember me today as this was 12 years ago.

ObsiWan
01-01-2014, 07:29 PM
It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.
And you're sure Belichick never hired anyone he'd had previous experience with...? ...that wasn't considered a friend? You know this?

DBCooper
01-01-2014, 08:11 PM
And you're sure Belichick never hired anyone he'd had previous experience with...? ...that wasn't considered a friend? You know this?

Obsi, good coaches don't do that, and Belichick is a genius.

Texian
01-01-2014, 08:29 PM
And you're sure Belichick never hired anyone he'd had previous experience with...? ...that wasn't considered a friend? You know this?

I'm not saying Belichick never hired anyone he had worked with before. I'm sure he did but he hired him because Belichick thought he was bright intelligent coach not because he was a friend or good old boy.

aussie_texan
01-01-2014, 08:55 PM
i would be happy with Hixon has the OC. but i want a big name or high potential guy as the DC

Playoffs
01-01-2014, 11:28 PM
Reads bottom-to-top...

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Loooong shot, but the coach from NE that Bill O'Brien will probably want but not get is Dante Scarnecchia - NE's OL coach since 2000.

Pepper Johnson - Coached up Vince Wilford & Pats D-line from '04-'11, now Pats' LB coach. #Texans

Tim Banks - Current Illinois DC. Was the LBs & DBs coach for Ralph Friedgen from '03-'06. #Texans

Brian Flores - Current safeties coach for NE. Was an assistant coach for O'Brien's offense / special teams. #Texans

Chad O'Shea - Replaced O'Brien as WR coach in NE in '09 when Bill was promoted. Played QB at U of H & from Houston. #Texans

Ted Roof - Hired O'Brien as OC/QB coach at Duke, was DC for O'Brien in '12 at Penn State, before going back to Ga Tech as DC. #Texans

Several coaches to watch for joining O'Brien in Houston: George Godsey - played QB at Ga Tech for O'Brien & hired him as Off Asst in NE...

thunderkyss
01-01-2014, 11:45 PM
Reads bottom-to-top...

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

Gawd-dangit..... Now we're going to get a bunch of New England assistants....

What's that story about the briar patch again?

bhsman
01-02-2014, 12:50 AM
Gawd-dangit..... Now we're going to get a bunch of New England assistants....

What's that story about the briar patch again?

Braddock was just mentioning names that O'Brien might consider due to his ties in NE; the Oline and TE coaches, in particular, would be very intriguing hires.

76Texan
01-03-2014, 11:30 AM
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/m-footbl-coaches.html

Jackie Chiles
01-03-2014, 11:56 AM
Found some information on a potential addition by way of Texans TV. Interview with Drew Dougherty below where he mentions his 'right hand man' at Penn State.

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/1-on-1-with-Bill-OBrien/d5602801-6fd5-4f42-a249-0ec82d17cff1

Took me a while to get the name right but he is talking about Jim Bernhardt. Couple of articles about him below:

http://footballscoop.com/news/9455-a-day-in-the-life-of-bill-o-brien-s-right-hand-man

"But at none of those stops was he as busy, or juggle as much responsibility, as he does now in a non-coaching role working with Bill O'Brien at Penn State."

"It’s a vital position for me,” O’Brien said in a recent interview. “You have to have somebody who can come in here and critique you. Who is critiquing the head coach? Obviously you have a boss, which is the athletic director. They’re in the Bryce Jordan Center and critiquing me on the overall program. Jimmy is critiquing me on a day-to-day basis, and not just critiquing me but critiquing the program in a constructive way," O'Brien told Audrey Snyder of PennLive.com. “He critiques me on X's and O's, on motivational things, overall recruiting ideas,” O’Brien said. “It’s maybe something in the weight room, something structurally in this facility. He helps make the schedule.”

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2013/04/mystery_man_meet_jim_bernhardt.html

b0ng
01-03-2014, 12:01 PM
Braddock was just mentioning names that O'Brien might consider due to his ties in NE; the Oline and TE coaches, in particular, would be very intriguing hires.

Dante Scarnecchia is a pipe dream and would probably hurt NE a lot if he left to Houston. He's been there for so long it's pretty inconceivable that he would just up and move for O'Brien when so many other Pats coordinators have left and I'm sure offered him promotions on other teams.

MistaRed
01-03-2014, 12:03 PM
John McCain on Twitter mentioned Romeo Crennal(sp) as a possible DC candidate

Playoffs
01-03-2014, 12:21 PM
We'll start evaluating tomorrow by talking the current members of the Houston Texans staff. We'll meet with everybody on that staff... personally, I'll meet with every one of those guys and go from there.

"great teachers, demanding coaches that hold people accountable", as well as men who "know when to go home and see their family".

Everybody wants to pin you down as 3-4 or 4-3, but we know that about 70% of the time you're in nickel or dime in this league.--OB

Hervoyel
01-03-2014, 01:56 PM
John McCain on Twitter mentioned Romeo Crennal(sp) as a possible DC candidate

We could certainly do worse.

bigbrewster2000
01-03-2014, 02:02 PM
We could certainly do worse.

That's who I've been hoping for to be honest. Truthfully, I have been thinking about him as our DC since the beginning of the season. He is a great DC, just a terrible HC. I would approve

Pollardized
01-03-2014, 03:50 PM
From the chron:

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/01/bill-obrien-to-consider-romeo-crennel-for-defensive-coordinator-position/?cmpid=sportshcat

New Texans coach Bill O’Brien is interested in hiring Romeo Crennel as his defensive coordinator.

Crennel, 66, didn’t coach this season. He was fired as Kansas City’s head coach after the 2012 season with two years left on his contract.

O’Brien said at his introductory news conference on Friday that he wasn’t ready to determine if he’ll play a 3-4 or a 4-3. He used a 4-3 at Penn State. Crennel is a 3-4 proponent.

The Texans switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in 2011 when Wade Phillips became the defensive coordinator. Phillips and the rest of the Texans’ assistants will be interviewed by O’Brien.

If O’Brien is able to lure Crennel back into the coaching fraternity, one of this former New England players thinks it would be a “great” move for the Texans...........

Playoffs
01-03-2014, 03:53 PM
We could certainly do worse.
New Texans coach Bill O’Brien is interested in hiring Romeo Crennel as his defensive coordinator. (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/01/bill-obrien-to-consider-romeo-crennel-for-defensive-coordinator-position/)

Crennel, who’s nickname is “Rac,” coached Sports Radio 610 talk show host Ted Johnson on three Super Bowl-winning teams with the Patriots.

“He was our defensive line coach when we lost to Green Bay in the Super Bowl and my defensive coordinator when we won three rings,” Johnson said. “I’m a huge Rac fan. Rac would mean instant credibility. What a great hire that would be.

“Rac’s got so much NFL experience. He’s serious and intense, but he’s still got an easy way about him. He’s just a great coach, a player’s coach. I hope they get him.”

Pollardized
01-03-2014, 03:54 PM
New Texans coach Bill O’Brien is interested in hiring Romeo Crennel as his defensive coordinator. (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/01/bill-obrien-to-consider-romeo-crennel-for-defensive-coordinator-position/)

Uhhggg.. I started a new thread to discuss it!

Texn4life
01-03-2014, 03:57 PM
Crennel stinks as a head coach, but is an amazing coordinator. I didn't realize he was 66 though.

Pollardized
01-03-2014, 04:01 PM
Yeah, he is a great DC. This would be an incredible upgrade in my opinion.

Playoffs
01-03-2014, 07:06 PM
Uhhggg.. I started a new thread to discuss it!

Sorry.

Certainly thread worthy, IMO.

thunderkyss
01-03-2014, 07:08 PM
Not gonna happen.

Hervoyel
01-03-2014, 07:40 PM
Not gonna happen.

Please elaborate. Just curious why it's not going to happen. I can't believe it's out of the question just because you say so. I'm sure you and O'Brien go way back but I had no idea you had that much input.

Playoffs
01-03-2014, 08:17 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 8h
Still a bit early on Romeo Crennel and the Texans. There is some interest there, we'll see if Romeo wants to get back in. Still getting paid

aussie_texan
01-03-2014, 08:52 PM
anyone know anything about the coach B'OB brought up in his 1 on 1 with drew dougherty saying hopefully he comes to houston with him

leebigeztx
01-03-2014, 09:22 PM
What I like about the older coordinator and the younger coach is stability. Romeo is 66, he's not looking for another head coaching job. Just like tom moore,lebeau,jimmy johnson(rip) and even capers,they're cool being oc and dc. I hope RAc is the dc. He would do wonder with watt and he also like the big guy in the midle.

Playoffs
01-03-2014, 11:28 PM
anyone know anything about the coach B'OB brought up in his 1 on 1 with drew dougherty saying hopefully he comes to houston with him

http://media.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball_impact/photo/12579912-large.jpg
Jim Bernhardt was OB's position coach at Brown and his special assistant at Penn State.

Meet Jim Bernhardt, Bill O'Brien's right-hand man, confidant (http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2013/04/mystery_man_meet_jim_bernhardt.html)
Consigliere is the word he used,” Bernhardt said, while sitting in his office glancing at his ever-changing to-do list. “My first loyalty and foremost is to Bill O’Brien. Someone might say that sounds like some type of hierarchy or something based on the university, but I do that with a very clear conscience because I know that he’s going to do the right thing.”“We’ve always had kind of an older brother, younger brother type of relationship,” Bernhardt recalled. “I facilitated – and if he wasn’t qualified he wouldn’t have gotten it -- I facilitated when he got his first big break at Georgia Tech as a graduate assistant with George O’Leary, who is an old friend. We have that relationship where it’s beyond just working together.”“The bottom line is this thing works because he knows I’m never going to lie to him,” Bernhardt said. “He may not like what I say, he may not agree with what I say, but he knows he’ll get an honest answer.”

mussop
01-03-2014, 11:38 PM
It's rumored ray Horton could go. Any interest in him?

Allstar
01-04-2014, 12:14 AM
Pete Thamel ✔ @SIPeteThamel
Two NFL teams have inquired about hiring Louisville OC Shawn Watson as an OC or QB coach.
10:26 PM - 3 Jan 2014


Boy, wouldn't that be telling if we hired this guy.

The Pencil Neck
01-04-2014, 12:18 AM
Pete Thamel ✔ @SIPeteThamel
Two NFL teams have inquired about hiring inquired about hiring Louisville OC Shawn Watson as an OC or QB coach.
10:26 PM - 3 Jan 2014


Boy, wouldn't that be telling if we hired this guy.

Two things come to mind:

1. The Titans got Norm Chow to be their offensive coordinator. And when they came up to draft a QB... they chose VY over Matt Leinart. Which was a head-scratcher.

2. The Dolphins got Sherman as their OC from A&M. And then drafted Tannehill in the top-10.

So it would be interesting but it might not be a real indication of what we're going to do.

Allstar
01-04-2014, 12:20 AM
Two things come to mind:

1. The Titans got Norm Chow to be their offensive coordinator. And when they came up to draft a QB... they chose VY over Matt Leinart. Which was a head-scratcher.

2. The Dolphins got Sherman as their OC from A&M. And then drafted Tannehill in the top-10.

So it would be interesting but it might not be a real indication of what we're going to do.
True, but Watson and Bridgewater almost consider themselves family. Teddy calls him a basically a father IIRC. Also, I believe the story was that Bud ordered the VY pick when Fisher voted against it.

The Pencil Neck
01-04-2014, 12:22 AM
True, but Watson and Bridgewater almost consider themselves family. Teddy calls him a basically a father IIRC.

Very, very true. I'd forgotten about that. Good point.

aussie_texan
01-04-2014, 01:43 AM
It's rumored ray Horton could go. Any interest in him?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000308746/article/minnesota-vikings-to-interview-browns-ray-horton

bckey
01-04-2014, 04:32 AM
It's rumored ray Horton could go. Any interest in him?

I think the only way Horton leaves Cleveland is to be a head coach somewhere. He only left the cardinals because he didn't get the hc job and Arians had his own guy to be dc. Not to mention Horton was pretty upset he didn't get the job.

macho grande
01-04-2014, 09:28 AM
Looks as though BO'B has fired the entire coaching staff this morning.

Kickin ass and taking names

DX-TEX
01-04-2014, 09:31 AM
Alex Marvez ‏@alexmarvez 6m
Source tells @FOXSports new #texans HC Bill O'Brien has fired all assistants from prior coaching staff & will name Romeo Crennel def coor



BOB:" Good morning gentlemen"

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs6/3877207_o.gif

While Romeo holds the door open...

PockyAF
01-04-2014, 09:43 AM
I'm hearing @HoustonTexans already have strong candidate for new o-line coach that may be done deal: Brian Ferentz from University of Iowa

https://mobile.twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/419493028588302336

As for offensive coordinator, keep an eye on @Patriots TE coach George Godsey (CONT)

https://mobile.twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/419493597814067200

TheIronDuke
01-04-2014, 10:05 AM
Not gonna happen.

Dude, maybe you don't know near as much as you think you do?

TexansFight
01-04-2014, 10:07 AM
I just was informed that O'Brien fired everyone. Complete housecleaning! I am so in love with Bill O'Brien.

DX-TEX
01-04-2014, 10:09 AM
I just was informed that O'Brien fired everyone. Complete housecleaning! I am so in love with Bill O'Brien.

I liked step one: fire entire existing staff

Step two concerns me: hire all his old Patriot buddies only? Or at least hire some new blood he is interested in.

Playoffs
01-04-2014, 10:29 AM
Step two concerns me: hire all his old Patriot buddies only? Or at least hire some new blood he is interested in.

Hire guys you know through experience can/will do what you want how you want it done. If I get my first HC job, my assistants will all be my trusted friends/cronies... guys I've gone into battle with.

As I've said elsewhere, you hire a guy you trust and let him do his job, build his staff, run his team. If you don't trust him, why did you hire him?

htowntexans1985
01-04-2014, 11:51 AM
I just was informed that O'Brien fired everyone. Complete housecleaning! I am so in love with Bill O'Brien.

Just in: Bill O'Brien has just fired Toro. :kitten:

DX-TEX
01-04-2014, 11:54 AM
Just in: Bill O'Brien has just fired Toro. :kitten:

Now fire Clay Walker and that stupid song

Marshall
01-04-2014, 11:55 AM
Tell them to bring in a NEW GM has well :P

might has well make a clean sweep Clean all the past cancer away

He doesn't seem to be a cancer to BOB. He has nothing but good things to say about Smith and McNair.

DX-TEX
01-04-2014, 11:58 AM
BOB in between meetings today:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdt9u2Bsrk1r270ozo3_250.gif

MistaRed
01-04-2014, 11:58 AM
Now fire Clay Walker and that stupid song

But...but....what about football time in Houston?

Vance87
01-04-2014, 11:59 AM
Bill O'Brien: "Good morning everyone, I'd just like to make one quick announcement."


http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/url-17.gif

YeaLikeRightNow
01-04-2014, 12:00 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/houston-assistants-let-160900264--nfl.html


Sounds Legit.

LikeMike
01-04-2014, 12:01 PM
I guess this was pretty much a given, but now a confirmation:

" Offensive coordinator Rick Dennison told reporters Saturday that he's been fired by O'Brien, according to the Houston Chronicle."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000308855/article/bill-obrien-expected-to-clear-out-houston-texans-staff

Who`s next?

YeaLikeRightNow
01-04-2014, 12:02 PM
I guess this was pretty much a given, but now a confirmation:

" Offensive coordinator Rick Dennison told reporters Saturday that he's been fired by O'Brien, according to the Houston Chronicle."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000308855/article/bill-obrien-expected-to-clear-out-houston-texans-staff

Who`s next?

And Wade:

https://twitter.com/sonofbum

Vance87
01-04-2014, 12:03 PM
http://seattlesportsnet.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/anchorman-celebration-gif.gif

DX-TEX
01-04-2014, 12:03 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/image/5252d455ecad04d34e4e65d8/matt-schaub-struggle.gif

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Clay+Walker+Indianapolis+Colts+v+Houston+Texans+ud QD0k_mTNkl.jpg

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2007/_video_wn_images/8788628_448x252.jpg

http://fantasyfootballmaniax.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Toro.jpg

JB
01-04-2014, 12:04 PM
Good news as far as I'm concerned. Wish them both luck (far away from Houston). :breakdance:

DX-TEX
01-04-2014, 12:12 PM
Bill O'Brien ‏@NotCoachOBrien 3m
Wade Phillips was a difficult convo. Not hard to do, but he mumbled through the whole talk. Still many bullets left in the chamber. #Texans



lol

kiwitexansfan
01-04-2014, 01:56 PM
Will BOOB be looking for a real OC or will he be calling his own plays?

HouTx11
01-04-2014, 02:08 PM
I guess this was pretty much a given, but now a confirmation:

" Offensive coordinator Rick Dennison told reporters Saturday that he's been fired by O'Brien, according to the Houston Chronicle."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000308855/article/bill-obrien-expected-to-clear-out-houston-texans-staff

Who`s next?

:whip::turtle::runaway:

ChampionTexan
01-04-2014, 03:20 PM
I just was informed that O'Brien fired everyone. Complete housecleaning! I am so in love with Bill O'Brien.

Conflicting (to some extent) information from McClain:

New Texans coach Bill O’Brien spent more than half a day meeting with assistants who worked under Gary Kubiak and ended up firing two coordinators and six positions coaches.

O’Brien, who has more meetings scheduled Monday morning with the rest of Kubiak’s assistants, is expected to keep assistant head coach/defensive line Bill Kollar.

LINK (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/01/dennison-phillips-among-those-fired-by-new-texans-coach-bill-obrien/)

thunderkyss
01-04-2014, 03:50 PM
Dude, maybe you don't know near as much as you think you do?

So I'm wrong once in a while. Why don't you drag up my posts where I said we weren't going to hire Cowher or Chucky as our HC? Or maybe where I said we wouldn't fire Kubiak before the end of the season?


I just didn't think it was going to happen (& technically, it hasn't). They both worked for the Patriots, but at different times. For all we know, they don't know each other.

Texecutioner
01-04-2014, 04:03 PM
they don't know each other.



I'm pretty sure you are being facetious here. At least I hope.

Playoffs
01-04-2014, 08:55 PM
Tweets read bottom-to-top...

Alex Marvez ‏@alexmarvez
One more Godsey-O'Brien tie: O'Brien was Georgia Tech's offensive coordinator when Godsey played QB there

Like Brian Ferentz, Godsey was on same @Patriots coaching staff under O'Brien when he was OC there (CONT)

As for offensive coordinator, keep an eye on @Patriots TE coach George Godsey (CONT)

Brian Ferentz, son of Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, was @Patriots assistant from 2009 to 2011. Started as offensive assistant, left as TE coach

I'm hearing @HoustonTexans already have strong candidate for new o-line coach that may be done deal: Brian Ferentz from University of Iowa

TheMatrix31
01-05-2014, 07:11 AM
Not exactly liking that we're going with the "Patriots Way" considering how much I hate Boston Sports, so let's hope whatever this guy does ends up replicating the winning and not their loathsome, insufferable doucheosity.

bckey
01-05-2014, 07:22 AM
Tweets read bottom-to-top...

Alex Marvez ‏@alexmarvez

One more Godsey-O'Brien tie: O'Brien was Georgia Tech's offensive coordinator when Godsey played QB there

Like Brian Ferentz, Godsey was on same @Patriots coaching staff under O'Brien when he was OC there (CONT)

As for offensive coordinator, keep an eye on @Patriots TE coach George Godsey (CONT)

Brian Ferentz, son of Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, was @Patriots assistant from 2009 to 2011. Started as offensive assistant, left as TE coach

I'm hearing @HoustonTexans already have strong candidate for new o-line coach that may be done deal: Brian Ferentz from University of Iowa



That would give the Texans a very inexperienced offensive coaching staff (NFL).

steelbtexan
01-05-2014, 09:48 AM
One more Godsey-O'Brien tie: O'Brien was Georgia Tech's offensive coordinator when Godsey played QB there

Like Brian Ferentz, Godsey was on same @Patriots coaching staff under O'Brien when he was OC there (CONT)

As for offensive coordinator, keep an eye on @Patriots TE coach George Godsey (CONT)

Brian Ferentz, son of Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, was @Patriots assistant from 2009 to 2011. Started as offensive assistant, left as TE coach

I'm hearing @HoustonTexans already have strong candidate for new o-line coach that may be done deal: Brian Ferentz from University of Iowa



That would give the Texans a very inexperienced offensive coaching staff (NFL).

Yep and this is worisome.

However If Ferentz is anywhere near as good as his dad is the OL should be in good hands.

New Englnds TE's were pretty good even without Hernandez. So there is hope.

steelbtexan
01-05-2014, 09:53 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/image/5252d455ecad04d34e4e65d8/matt-schaub-struggle.gif

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Clay+Walker+Indianapolis+Colts+v+Houston+Texans+ud QD0k_mTNkl.jpg

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2007/_video_wn_images/8788628_448x252.jpg

http://fantasyfootballmaniax.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Toro.jpg

Gotta rep this.

Texecutioner
01-05-2014, 10:17 AM
Not exactly liking that we're going with the "Patriots Way" considering how much I hate Boston Sports, so let's hope whatever this guy does ends up replicating the winning and not their loathsome, insufferable doucheosity.

All I got from this is that you hate them because of their history of winning.

DX-TEX
01-05-2014, 10:18 AM
All I got from this is that you hate them because of their history of winning.

He is doing it wrong! Either way its fate!

Bill Belichick
Tom Brady
Bob Kraft
Bill O'Brien
Blake Bortles
Bob McNair

Freaky....

bah007
01-05-2014, 11:42 AM
Ferentz is one of the top three OL coaches in college football so hard to hate on that one.

bckey
01-05-2014, 12:29 PM
Ferentz is one of the top three OL coaches in college football so hard to hate on that one.

I don't think anyone is hating on any of the potential coaches. The only thing that was brought up is minimal NFL experience. It doesn't mean its good or bad.

TheMatrix31
01-05-2014, 03:53 PM
All I got from this is that you hate them because of their history of winning.


I actually hate all Boston sports teams and have hated them for a long, long time now. I'm a Sabres fan, my bro is a Dolphins fan, and my other brother is a Yankees fan. Been brought up to hate Boston sports with a passion. Only root for the Celtics when they play the Lakers. Preceded all Patriots success. But nice try, *******. And it's funny how I said I hope they bring the winning and not the Boston doucheosity and you STILL tried to say I hate them because they're winners.

Can't wait for the Patriots to not be good anymore so you can be blown away when I---gasp---still hate them with a vehement passion. As evidenced by my unbridled hatred for the Titans, Jaguars, Raiders, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Flyers, Leafs, and plenty of others, it IS possible to hate teams for other reasons than success. Not all hatred is based on winning, contrary to what you and people like you believe for some reason. Not everything is Kanye West-ified. Not sure where that narrative came from.

steelbtexan
01-05-2014, 05:18 PM
I actually hate all Boston sports teams and have hated them for a long, long time now. I'm a Sabres fan, my bro is a Dolphins fan, and my other brother is a Yankees fan. Been brought up to hate Boston sports with a passion. Only root for the Celtics when they play the Lakers. Preceded all Patriots success. But nice try, *******. And it's funny how I said I hope they bring the winning and not the Boston doucheosity and you STILL tried to say I hate them because they're winners.

Can't wait for the Patriots to not be good anymore so you can be blown away when I---gasp---still hate them with a vehement passion. As evidenced by my unbridled hatred for the Titans, Jaguars, Raiders, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Flyers, Leafs, and plenty of others, it IS possible to hate teams for other reasons than success. Not all hatred is based on winning, contrary to what you and people like you believe for some reason. Not everything is Kanye West-ified. Not sure where that narrative came from.

Man, there sure is alot for you to hate on.

bhsman
01-05-2014, 06:19 PM
I think the only way Horton leaves Cleveland is to be a head coach somewhere. He only left the cardinals because he didn't get the hc job and Arians had his own guy to be dc. Not to mention Horton was pretty upset he didn't get the job.

There's a chance that the Browns hire a coach that doesn't run a 3-4 like Mike Zimmer, leaving Horton without a job. Houston swooping in to grab him on the off chance that he doesn't get an HC position would be perfect.

TheMatrix31
01-05-2014, 06:33 PM
Man, there sure is alot for you to hate on.

If hatred was based on success, it would be superficial. I'm not a superficial person and there's reason behind everything I do and feel. If you only hate teams because they win, well, I guess that'd make you superficial now, wouldn't it? That'd be pretty pathetic to only hate teams that win.

bckey
01-05-2014, 07:15 PM
There's a chance that the Browns hire a coach that doesn't run a 3-4 like Mike Zimmer, leaving Horton without a job. Houston swooping in to grab him on the off chance that he doesn't get an HC position would be perfect.

I forgot that the head coach got fired. That would be an awesome hire.

Texecutioner
01-05-2014, 08:19 PM
I actually hate all Boston sports teams and have hated them for a long, long time now. I'm a Sabres fan, my bro is a Dolphins fan, and my other brother is a Yankees fan. Been brought up to hate Boston sports with a passion. Only root for the Celtics when they play the Lakers. Preceded all Patriots success. But nice try, *******. And it's funny how I said I hope they bring the winning and not the Boston doucheosity and you STILL tried to say I hate them because they're winners.

Can't wait for the Patriots to not be good anymore so you can be blown away when I---gasp---still hate them with a vehement passion. As evidenced by my unbridled hatred for the Titans, Jaguars, Raiders, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Flyers, Leafs, and plenty of others, it IS possible to hate teams for other reasons than success. Not all hatred is based on winning, contrary to what you and people like you believe for some reason. Not everything is Kanye West-ified. Not sure where that narrative came from.

This reminds me of this kid.

http://youtu.be/iy1dXPuI_gE


And how exactly does a level of hatred like that feel?

HOU-TEX
01-06-2014, 11:21 AM
Guess we can add PSU's S&C coach to the staff. Don't know him. Anyone?

Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli 1h
The #Texans fired strength coaches Cedric Smith and Matt Schiotz this morning.

Fitzgerald is the third member of O'Brien's Penn State staff to have been confirmed as joining him in Houston. Receivers coach Stan Hixon has said he is headed to the Texans. And it has been widely reported that Jim Bernhardt, a special assistant to O'Brien at Penn State (and his position coach at Brown) would join Houston in a similar position.

http://pennstate.scout.com/2/1363496.html

HOU-TEX
01-06-2014, 11:22 AM
Kollar the lone coach that will be retained.

Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli 46m
Defensive line coach Bill Kollar has been officially retained. #Texans

Playoffs
01-06-2014, 11:29 AM
Guess we can add PSU's S&C coach to the staff. Don't know him. Anyone?

http://pennstate.scout.com/2/1363496.htmlSomething about him is familiar...

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/112/1128800.jpghttp://www.interestingtopics.net/storage/3228f24402cc02bdcb874e523feb3b35.jpg

Honoring Earl 34
01-06-2014, 12:29 PM
Something about him is familiar...

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/112/1128800.jpghttp://www.interestingtopics.net/storage/3228f24402cc02bdcb874e523feb3b35.jpg

I can see getting rid of the grass at Reliant and playing on spinach next year .

kiwitexansfan
01-06-2014, 12:46 PM
Guess we can add PSU's S&C coach to the staff. Don't know him. Anyone?





http://pennstate.scout.com/2/1363496.html

Didn't our staff just win an award for being the best?

Ben Frank
01-06-2014, 12:52 PM
I'm guessing.. Bill Kollar was retained for his fiery, red nosed attitude.. that's similar to O'Brien.. I think this coaching staff will be based on toughness... no soft attitudes to ware off on the players.. just my opinion

ChampionTexan
01-06-2014, 12:53 PM
Didn't our staff just win an award for being the best?

That was the training staff. Think injury treatment/rehab not strength training.

Not saying those guys aren't next (who knows), just saying they're different guys.

RagingBull
01-06-2014, 01:01 PM
He is doing it wrong! Either way its fate!

Bill Belichick
Tom Brady
Bob Kraft
Bill O'Brien
Blake Bortles
Bob McNair

Freaky....

I think Teddy Bridgewater is even closer than Blake Bortles.

kiwitexansfan
01-06-2014, 01:01 PM
That was the training staff. Think injury treatment/rehab not strength training.

Not saying those guys aren't next (who knows), just saying they're different guys.

Thanks for that.

b0ng
01-06-2014, 02:12 PM
Guess we can add PSU's S&C coach to the staff. Don't know him. Anyone?





http://pennstate.scout.com/2/1363496.html

From what I understood they had to completely re-invent the S&C program at PSU because JoePa had some archaic ideas about the subject. A lot of the things that I have read implied that their program went from laughable to very legitimate in a short period of time and it showed on the field the two seasons he was there.

Playoffs
01-06-2014, 02:29 PM
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
PSU recieved resignations from FB coaches Charles London (RBs) Stan Hioxon(WRs) Anthony Midget (S) S&C coach Craig Fitzgerald per @BobbyFlo7

HOU-TEX
01-06-2014, 03:00 PM
I'm hearing @HoustonTexans already have strong candidate for new o-line coach that may be done deal: Brian Ferentz from University of Iowa

https://mobile.twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/419493028588302336

As for offensive coordinator, keep an eye on @Patriots TE coach George Godsey (CONT)

https://mobile.twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/419493597814067200

Hmm, that name sounds familiar. Wasn't he rumored around here a few years ago? He's a ZBS guy, right?

HOU-TEX
01-06-2014, 03:06 PM
Sounds like it might be true

Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt 10m
Have ben told Bill O'Brien will hire Brian Ferentz as his OL coach w #Texans. Son of Iowa HC Kirk Ferentz. Good choice.

infantrycak
01-06-2014, 03:11 PM
Hmm, that name sounds familiar. Wasn't he rumored around here a few years ago? He's a ZBS guy, right?

His dad coaches Iowa, he played there - yeah he is a ZBS guy. He coached TEs for the Patriots the year Gronk led the league in TDs and he and Hernandez dominated.

BullNation4Life
01-06-2014, 03:16 PM
His dad coaches Iowa, he played there - yeah he is a ZBS guy. He coached TEs for the Patriots the year Gronk led the league in TDs and he and Hernandez dominated.

Sweet, well Texans already have their injury prone TE in Daniels, he will play the part of Gronk...

Now where can the Texans get a murdering TE to play Hernandez?

TexansFight
01-06-2014, 03:19 PM
Very excited about the new S&C coach. I have hated the Texans S&C coaching the entire time. We have had way too many injuries compared to the norm.

ChampionTexan
01-06-2014, 03:21 PM
Sweet, well Texans already have their injury prone TE in Daniels, he will play the part of Gronk...

Now where can the Texans get a murdering TE to play Hernandez?

Maybe there's a work release program? :kitten::kitten::kitten:

HOU-TEX
01-06-2014, 03:21 PM
His dad coaches Iowa, he played there - yeah he is a ZBS guy. He coached TEs for the Patriots the year Gronk led the league in TDs and he and Hernandez dominated.

Ah, so it was probably his pops' name that I heard (concerning the Texans) a few years ago?

infantrycak
01-06-2014, 03:22 PM
Very excited about the new S&C coach. I have hated the Texans S&C coaching the entire time. We have had way too many injuries compared to the norm.

We have had three or four different S&C coaches. I guess they all liked injuries. But Cushing clearly was not in good enough shape to avoid his knee injury. I'm sure Tate's broken ribs were due to him being poorly trained as well.

Ah, so it was probably his pops' name that I heard (concerning the Texans) a few years ago?

Yeah - Kirk. He was asked to interview for HC when Kubiak was hired. He declined.

BullNation4Life
01-06-2014, 03:23 PM
We have had three or four different S&C coaches. I guess they all liked injuries. But Cushing clearly was not in good enough shape to avoid his knee injury. I'm sure Tate's broken ribs were due to him being poorly trained as well.

I sense sarcasm in the force...

HOU-TEX
01-06-2014, 03:27 PM
I sense sarcasm in the force...

To the tenth degree

Playoffs
01-06-2014, 03:39 PM
Now where can the Texans get a murdering TE to play Hernandez?

3 potential 1st Round TEs in this draft, alone... not sure if any have ganked a dude or not?

Playoffs
01-06-2014, 04:14 PM
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
Report out of Happy Valley says former PSU DC John Butler will become secondary coach with #Texans.

2012Champs
01-06-2014, 04:17 PM
If hatred was based on success, it would be superficial. I'm not a superficial person and there's reason behind everything I do and feel. If you only hate teams because they win, well, I guess that'd make you superficial now, wouldn't it? That'd be pretty pathetic to only hate teams that win.



What is the real reason you hate everything Boston? I didnt see it in your rant so other than superficial crap you mentioned I didnt see any thing else. Really having hate for sports teams is pretty pathetic.

paycheck71
01-06-2014, 04:21 PM
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
Report out of Happy Valley says former PSU DC John Butler will become secondary coach with #Texans.

This HAS to mean that the Crennel hiring is all but a sure thing, right? Would he be hiring defensive position coaches without knowing who his DC is?

DX-TEX
01-06-2014, 04:22 PM
This HAS to mean that the Crennel hiring is all but a sure thing, right? Would he be hiring defensive position coaches without knowing who his DC is?

Romeo on speed dial?

Playoffs
01-06-2014, 04:25 PM
This HAS to mean that the Crennel hiring is all but a sure thing, right? Would he be hiring defensive position coaches without knowing who his DC is?

That seems to be the sentiment.

I have not read anything contrary to that from credible source.

The Pencil Neck
01-06-2014, 04:28 PM
Now where can the Texans get a murdering TE to play Hernandez?

Graham or Griffin are going to have to step up and do the dirty work.

Playoffs
01-06-2014, 04:45 PM
George Godsey -- OC(?)
Brian Ferentz -- OL
Stan Hixon -- WRs
Charles London -- RBs
Anthony Midget -- Safties(?)
Craig Fitzgerald -- Strength & Conditioning
John Butler -- CBs(?)

Bill Kollar -- DL

Jim Bernhardt -- QC


Here's an overview of those four coaches' résumés: (http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/3393/early-start-counts-for-assistants-too)

Butler: Has been a college assistant coach since 1995, beginning at his alma mater Catholic University. He was a graduate assistant at Texas, then worked at Midwestern State, Southwest Texas State, Harvard, Minnesota and South Carolina before joining O'Brien's staff at Penn State as the defensive backs coach. A year ago Butler became the defensive coordinator.

Hixon: Started his coaching career in 1980 as an assistant at Morehead State. He spent 24 seasons as a college assistant before becoming an NFL receivers coach. That job came with the Washington Redskins in 2004 until the end of the 2009 season when he was out with a head coaching change. Hixon then coached receivers with the Buffalo Bills for two seasons before joining O'Brien's staff as receivers coach and assistant head coach.

London: Served as a graduate assistant at his alma mater Duke in 2004 and 2005 before becoming the running backs coach. He then spent three years as an offensive assistant with the Chicago Bears and a year as a scout for the Philadelphia Eagles. Before joining O'Brien's staff as the running backs coach, London was an offensive assistant for the Tennessee Titans.

Midget: Graduate assistant at Virginia Tech before coaching at Georgia State where he was a defensive coordinator in 2012. He joined O'Brien's staff as safeties coach last year.

QuantumMortis
01-06-2014, 04:46 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/01/bill-obrien-fires-texans-strength-and-conditioning-staff/?cmpid=hpbn

As expected, assistant head coach/defensive line Bill Kollar was retained.

He didn't completely clean house. Let the hand-wringing begin.

NCTexan
01-06-2014, 05:21 PM
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN

Sad to see Vance go though a bit. But glad Kollar was retained.

kingtexan
01-06-2014, 05:24 PM
Sad to see Vance go though a bit. But glad Kollar was retained.

Our secondary was terrible. I'm not sad at all.

Vance87
01-06-2014, 05:29 PM
Sad to see Vance go though a bit. But glad Kollar was retained.

Well I'm sad. :(

TheMatrix31
01-06-2014, 06:00 PM
What is the real reason you hate everything Boston? I didnt see it in your rant so other than superficial crap you mentioned I didnt see any thing else. Really having hate for sports teams is pretty pathetic.

You mean having multiple teams members of my family root for with massive rivalries with Boston teams and stupid, obnoxious, insufferable, insecure, "you're just a hater!" fans isn't enough to hate them? I know an incredible amount of Boston sports fans and they all exhibit the same traits.

I'm glad you think having hate for sports teams is pretty pathetic. I was of the thought that sports are competition and that you hate your rivals. I'm also glad that you're not in charge of determining anything about my hatred for a team or group of teams.

If you think my hatred for Boston sports is crazy, I think you'd probably drop dead if you knew how much I hate the Los Angeles Lakers.




.......anyway, looks like we're going Patriots/Penn State down the board. Can't expect anything less. You hire the guy that comes from the influences of what you want your team to be. Expecting him to not bring "his guys" aboard is foolish. Let's just hope they can win.

thunderkyss
01-06-2014, 07:42 PM
From what I understood they had to completely re-invent the S&C program at PSU because JoePa had some archaic ideas about the subject.

Last story I read said it included a lot of "shower" time.

thunderkyss
01-06-2014, 07:44 PM
Hmm, that name sounds familiar. Wasn't he rumored around here a few years ago? He's a ZBS guy, right?

NVM...

You answered your own question.

CloakNNNdagger
01-06-2014, 08:33 PM
Bill O’Brien came to Houston with intentions to make his mark as the new head coach of the Houston Texans. The first order of business came with the dismissal of all but one of the 2013 Texans coaching staff heading into the 2014 season, and bringing in his own coaches was in the plans from the start.

O’Brien said this of the type of coaches he is looking for,

“We’ll put together a staff of great teachers, demanding coaches. Coaches that hold their players accountable for good play. We’ll put together a staff of coaches who have a passion for football, that are good family men, that understand it’s important to go home. I think that’s important and we’ll have a really good staff of guys here to coach for the Houston Texans.”

To this point there are three names coming to Houston with O’Brien and one hold over from the 2013 Texans staff.


Stan Hixon

Hixon was one of the first ones known that would be coming with O’Brien to Houston. Hixon was hired by O’Brien in 2012 when he arrived at Penn State and coached wide receivers and was the assistant head coach for the Nitanny Lions. Hixon has spent time in the NFL with the Washington Redskins (2004-2010) and the Buffalo Bills (2010-2012), he also won a national championship with the LSU Tigers in 2003 when he was the assistant head coach and wide receiver coach under Nick Saban.

He has been praised for helping developing Nittany Lions wide receiver Allen Robinson who was the 2012 and 2013 Big Ten Richter-Howard Receiver of the Year, both seasons with Hixon as his position coach. 33 years of coaching experience and this will be his third stop working with O’Brien, Georgia Tech was the first stop with the new Texans head coach.

It appears he will replace former wide receiver coach Larry Kirksey in the same position for the 2014 season.


John Butler

Butler was hired by O’Brien in 2012 as Penn State’s secondary coach in 2011 and was promoted the next season to defensive coordinator. Also in 2012, Butler along with his defensive coordinator duties, he helped with the special teams units.

With 19 seasons in coaching he has coached linebackers and special teams at South Carolina (2011), Minnesota (2007-2010) and spent time at Harvard (2003-2006), Texas State (2001-2002) Midwestern State (1999-2000) and was a graduate assistant at the University of Texas during the 1997 and 1998 seasons.

Bulter has been described to us as an intense coach from our talks with Penn State insiders.


Charles London

London was hired by O’Brien in 2012 when the new staff was put into place at Penn State. London coached running backs at Penn State and helped oversee the special teams units for the Nitanny Lions.

He has spent time in the NFL with the Tennessee Titans (2011) as the offensive assistant/quality control coach, a scout for the Philadelphia Eagles (2010) and an offensive assistant with the Chicago Bears (2007-2009). He first crossed paths with O’Brien at Duke when he was the running backs coach (2006) and graduate assistant (2004-2005), while O’Brien was as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach.

London looks to be in place to take over the running back coaching position for the 2014 season.


Rumored to Be Joining O’Brien


Brian Ferentz

Currently the offensive line coach at the University of Iowa, Ferentz worked with O’Brien in New England (2009-2011). Ferentz started in New England as a scouting assitant, and then moved to offensive coaching assistant and then was promoted to the tight end coach in 2011. In 2011, Ferentz coached Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski who set NFL records for tight ends for the Patriots.

He left New England to join his father Kirk at the University of Iowa to coach offensive line.

Ferentz would be coaching the offensive line according to Alex Marvez from Fox Sports and they may already have a deal in place.


George Godsey

The current tight end coach at New England, and played quarterback at Georgia Tech when O’Brien was the offensive coordinator at Georgia Tech. Godsey started his coaching career at Central Florida as a graduate assistant (2004), quarterbacks coach (2005-2008) and running backs coach (2009-2010). He arrived in New England in 2011 as an offensive assistant and became the teams tight end coach in 2012. O’Brien was the offensive coordinator in 2011 when Godsey was an offensive assistant.

Signs have been pointing to Godsey possibly being the new offensive coordinator under O’Brien.link (http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/3393/early-start-counts-for-assistants-too)

gtexan02
01-06-2014, 08:34 PM
PSU people hated Butler

2012Champs
01-06-2014, 08:50 PM
You mean having multiple teams members of my family root for with massive rivalries with Boston teams and stupid, obnoxious, insufferable, insecure, "you're just a hater!" fans isn't enough to hate them? I know an incredible amount of Boston sports fans and they all exhibit the same traits.

I'm glad you think having hate for sports teams is pretty pathetic. I was of the thought that sports are competition and that you hate your rivals. I'm also glad that you're not in charge of determining anything about my hatred for a team or group of teams.

If you think my hatred for Boston sports is crazy, I think you'd probably drop dead if you knew how much I hate the Los Angeles Lakers.




.......anyway, looks like we're going Patriots/Penn State down the board. Can't expect anything less. You hire the guy that comes from the influences of what you want your team to be. Expecting him to not bring "his guys" aboard is foolish. Let's just hope they can win.


Seems you fall subject to some of the description you'd make of the other fans you mention. Yeah you and your family hating other teams is pathetic. Enjoying a rivalry? All good. Really hating other teams? Pathetic. News flash teams do compete but you and your family don't you just watch

drs23
01-06-2014, 09:09 PM
PSU people hated Butler

Because he was intense?

DBCooper
01-06-2014, 09:20 PM
Because he was intense?

He likes girls.

CloakNNNdagger
01-06-2014, 09:34 PM
PSU people hated Butler

Because he was intense?

Might give some insight here (apparently also friends):


O’Brien on Penn State’s defensive woes: Don’t mess with John Butler (http://www.yorkblog.com/psu/2013/10/29/obrien-on-penn-states-defensive-woes-dont-mess-with-john-butler/)

kiwitexansfan
01-06-2014, 09:41 PM
Might give some insight here (apparently also friends):


O’Brien on Penn State’s defensive woes: Don’t mess with John Butler (http://www.yorkblog.com/psu/2013/10/29/obrien-on-penn-states-defensive-woes-dont-mess-with-john-butler/)

Got some Kubiak-ish blame taking in that....


If anybody should take heat, it’s Bill O’Brien, not John Butler.

“Well, (that) falls upon me. I call the plays,” O’Brien said. “And certainly, you go into a game like that and you’re playing an offense … that scores a lot of points, you’ve got to score points. So I look in the mirror.

“Certainly, some of the players could have played better … But that starts with me, and the whole game starts with me as the head football coach. Nobody understands that better than me.”

drs23
01-06-2014, 10:59 PM
Might give some insight here (apparently also friends):


O’Brien on Penn State’s defensive woes: Don’t mess with John Butler (http://www.yorkblog.com/psu/2013/10/29/obrien-on-penn-states-defensive-woes-dont-mess-with-john-butler/)

I got "It's on me". But then all HCs say that, eh?

ObsiWan
01-07-2014, 12:02 AM
Got some Kubiak-ish blame taking in that....

I got "It's on me". But then all HCs say that, eh?

But we hated it when Kubiak did it....

I just Butler doesn't end up being the DC; wasn't all that great at that job at PSU.

TheMatrix31
01-07-2014, 02:46 AM
Seems you fall subject to some of the description you'd make of the other fans you mention. Yeah you and your family hating other teams is pathetic. Enjoying a rivalry? All good. Really hating other teams? Pathetic. News flash teams do compete but you and your family don't you just watch

I hope I can find it within myself one day to give even the slightest of ****s about what you think I should feel when I watch sports.

Marshall
01-07-2014, 02:50 AM
Well I'm sad. :(

There are always those who want change so badly that they throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Marshall
01-07-2014, 02:57 AM
I hope I can find it within myself one day to give even the slightest of ****s about what you think I should feel when I watch sports.
Competition is one thing, but HATE is poisonous to you. It's not a criticism, but concern.

2012Champs
01-07-2014, 07:34 AM
I hope I can find it within myself one day to give even the slightest of ****s about what you think I should feel when I watch sports.

I didn't ask you to give a **** about what I thought. Maybe one day you will grow up and realize that the hate is wasted time and energy

Carr Bombed
01-07-2014, 07:56 AM
I hate the Utah Jazz and their fans with every fiber in me. :) That hatred keeps me warm at night.

nero THE zero
01-07-2014, 08:24 AM
I hate the Utah Jazz and their fans with every fiber in me. :) That hatred keeps me warm at night.

Me too.

Feel the same way about the Titans, and the Colts are slowly reaching that status. The Luck-Hilton-Pagano Colts are so much more unlikable than the Manning-Wayne-Dungy Colts.

Regarding O'Brien, and maybe this has been addressed, I have heard some speculation (almost a foregone assumption) that, like Kubiak, O'Brien will be calling the plays. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was an OC for one year. That's hardly Kubiak pedigree OC. Has it been explicitly stated anywhere that O'Brien will be calling the plays? Did he call the (offensive) plays at Penn State?

steelbtexan
01-07-2014, 08:42 AM
There are always those who want change so badly that they throw the baby out with the bathwater.

2-14

I'd say the baby crapped in the bathwater and it needed to be thrown out after the 6-10 2010 season. 8 yrs, started with a 2-14 ended with a 2-14, is that a nice round circle?

Do you think the Texans would've ever won a SB under Gary? The decision to keep Gary back in 2010 set the franchise back atleast 5-7 yrs, if winning a SB is the goal. Agree or disagree?

b0ng
01-07-2014, 08:43 AM
Me too.

Feel the same way about the Titans, and the Colts are slowly reaching that status. The Luck-Hilton-Pagano Colts are so much more unlikable than the Manning-Wayne-Dungy Colts.

Regarding O'Brien, and maybe this has been addressed, I have heard some speculation (almost a foregone assumption) that, like Kubiak, O'Brien will be calling the plays. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was an OC for one year. That's hardly Kubiak pedigree OC. Has it been explicitly stated anywhere that O'Brien will be calling the plays? Did he call the (offensive) plays at Penn State?

It's kind of hard to hate Luck though. He's just a goony bastard that just looks like he's having fun playing football. Sucks for us that it appears he's pretty damn good and sharp in the brain too (like Peyton. Damnit).

Not sure about the playcalling stuff for O'Brien and whether he did it at Penn State but I think he did (There was an article posted earlier in this thread and I think he was quoted saying he was calling the plays). He did call plays in NE's 2011 year, so there's that but if he wants to do it then I say let him do it till he proves he's incapable.

steelbtexan
01-07-2014, 08:46 AM
Me too.

Feel the same way about the Titans, and the Colts are slowly reaching that status. The Luck-Hilton-Pagano Colts are so much more unlikable than the Manning-Wayne-Dungy Colts.

Regarding O'Brien, and maybe this has been addressed, I have heard some speculation (almost a foregone assumption) that, like Kubiak, O'Brien will be calling the plays. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was an OC for one year. That's hardly Kubiak pedigree OC. Has it been explicitly stated anywhere that O'Brien will be calling the plays? Did he call the (offensive) plays at Penn State?

People generally dislike division foes or confrence foes that are consistently better than their favorite team. Jealousy unfortunately is human nature for most.

steelbtexan
01-07-2014, 08:47 AM
I didn't ask you to give a **** about what I thought. Maybe one day you will grow up and realize that the hate is wasted time and energy

I wouldn't count on this happening.

nero THE zero
01-07-2014, 08:56 AM
People generally dislike division foes or confrence foes that are consistently better than their favorite team. Jealousy unfortunately is human nature for most.

I was jealous of the Manning Colts and I never disliked them, and neither the Jazz nor the Titans have been better than the Rockets or Texans respectively.

Those emotions are separate for me. Thanks for the free psychoanalysis, though. It was worth every penny I paid for it.

ChampionTexan
01-07-2014, 09:02 AM
Me too.

Feel the same way about the Titans, and the Colts are slowly reaching that status. The Luck-Hilton-Pagano Colts are so much more unlikable than the Manning-Wayne-Dungy Colts.

Regarding O'Brien, and maybe this has been addressed, I have heard some speculation (almost a foregone assumption) that, like Kubiak, O'Brien will be calling the plays. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was an OC for one year. That's hardly Kubiak pedigree OC. Has it been explicitly stated anywhere that O'Brien will be calling the plays? Did he call the (offensive) plays at Penn State?

O'Brien started calling plays for the Patriots when McDaniels went to Denver. That means he called plays there for 4 seasons. It's pretty easy to do a google search and find criticism and defense of his play calling at PSU. And prior to joining the Patriots, he'd spent 4 seasons as a college OC (2 with Ga. Tech, and 2 with Duke), so I while I can't say defintively he called plays at either place, but since both teams had HC's with a defensive background, I'd guess there's a pretty good chance he did.

DBCooper
01-07-2014, 09:02 AM
Me too.

Feel the same way about the Titans, and the Colts are slowly reaching that status. The Luck-Hilton-Pagano Colts are so much more unlikable than the Manning-Wayne-Dungy Colts.

Regarding O'Brien, and maybe this has been addressed, I have heard some speculation (almost a foregone assumption) that, like Kubiak, O'Brien will be calling the plays. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was an OC for one year. That's hardly Kubiak pedigree OC. Has it been explicitly stated anywhere that O'Brien will be calling the plays? Did he call the (offensive) plays at Penn State?

I remember the first time I noticed O'Brien during 2011, way before the Brady incident. And I remember thinking that this was a hot coaching prospect. His play callng was inventive and fresh, he was playing chess with the opposing DC.

I like the idea of him calling the plays.

Playoffs
01-07-2014, 09:03 AM
I just Butler doesn't end up being the DC; wasn't all that great at that job at PSU.
He'll be either secondary or cornerbacks coach.

paycheck71
01-07-2014, 10:18 AM
People generally dislike division foes or confrence foes that are consistently better than their favorite team. Jealousy unfortunately is human nature for most.

I never hated the Manning Colts. I kind of admired them. My dislike of the Colts is more directed at the franchise and their dumbas$ owner. If any of you follow him on twitter, you know that he's at the very least a weird dude. He lucked into being born to his rich parents and now he lucked into two franchise QB's back to back. That's why I hate the Colts. Andrew Luck is actually fairly likable OTOH.

TheMatrix31
01-07-2014, 03:20 PM
Yep. I don't hate the Colts because they and their fans don't exhibit the qualities that I hate in teams I hate. I have an admiration for them and want them to DE-STROY New England on Saturday night. I do hate Luck's propensity for flopping to get flags though. He should cut that out.

Hatred is not solely predicated on success or jealousy. There are plenty of reasons to hate someone, something, or some organization. If it was only based on success or jealousy, I wouldn't hate the Raiders, Jets, Cowboys, Chargers, Titans, Jaguars, Jazz, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Flyers, Ducks, Maple Leafs, Senators, and a whole host of other teams.

One of the things I hate the MOST is when people try to assign THEIR reasons for MY feelings on something.

2012Champs
01-07-2014, 04:11 PM
Yep. I don't hate the Colts because they and their fans don't exhibit the qualities that I hate in teams I hate. I have an admiration for them and want them to DE-STROY New England on Saturday night. I do hate Luck's propensity for flopping to get flags though. He should cut that out.

Hatred is not solely predicated on success or jealousy. There are plenty of reasons to hate someone, something, or some organization. If it was only based on success or jealousy, I wouldn't hate the Raiders, Jets, Cowboys, Chargers, Titans, Jaguars, Jazz, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, Flyers, Ducks, Maple Leafs, Senators, and a whole host of other teams.

One of the things I hate the MOST is when people try to assign THEIR reasons for MY feelings on something.



Do you have a legit reason for hating 15+ sports teams or is it simply they just arent the team you root for? Im sure they never banged your mother or sister, cost you a job, screwed you out of money, killed someone you loved etc. Seems like overzealous fandom

TheMatrix31
01-07-2014, 04:37 PM
Do you have a legit reason for hating 15+ sports teams or is it simply they just arent the team you root for? Im sure they never banged your mother or sister, cost you a job, screwed you out of money, killed someone you loved etc. Seems like overzealous fandom

Sure, I have legitimate reasons. They may not be legitimate for you, seeing as how you listed the only reasons I can possibly hate a team or a person right there in your post, but I have my reasons. Just like there are plenty of teams I'm plenty cool with that aren't the teams I root for. Teams like the Broncos, Dolphins, 49ers, Packers, Yankees, Giants, Cardinals, Angels, Royals, Pirates, Red Wings, Rangers, Kings, Mavericks, Warriors, and plenty others.

Do your rules for hatred extend to food items too? Or do those have to bang my family, cost me a job, screw me out of money, or kill someone I love as well?

2012Champs
01-07-2014, 05:32 PM
Sure, I have legitimate reasons. They may not be legitimate for you, seeing as how you listed the only reasons I can possibly hate a team or a person right there in your post, but I have my reasons. Just like there are plenty of teams I'm plenty cool with that aren't the teams I root for. Teams like the Broncos, Dolphins, 49ers, Packers, Yankees, Giants, Cardinals, Angels, Royals, Pirates, Red Wings, Rangers, Kings, Mavericks, Warriors, and plenty others.

Do your rules for hatred extend to food items too? Or do those have to bang my family, cost me a job, screw me out of money, or kill someone I love as well?



I didnt list all possible reasons but rather I listed a few. I asked you if you had legit reasons.


Maybe this hate people have for other teams and by connection their fans are the reason why fan on fan violence is becoming more and more common. Well that and alcohol which only fuels irrational hate

DBCooper
01-07-2014, 06:53 PM
2012Champs and TheMatrix31 you guys just need to kiss and get it over with, this tension is killing me!

TheMatrix31
01-07-2014, 07:08 PM
I didnt list all possible reasons but rather I listed a few. I asked you if you had legit reasons.


Maybe this hate people have for other teams and by connection their fans are the reason why fan on fan violence is becoming more and more common. Well that and alcohol which only fuels irrational hate

Good thing I'm not much of a drinker, then, right? Otherwise I'd be a loose cannon who's gonna go out murdering people because I hate sports teams!

ThaShark316
01-07-2014, 07:13 PM
It ain't a thread unless Matrix and a couple of his rivals are beefin'.

2012Champs
01-07-2014, 07:14 PM
Good thing I'm not much of a drinker, then, right? Otherwise I'd be a loose cannon who's gonna go out murdering people because I hate sports teams!

Well I certainly didn't think you alone were the cause of all the fan on fan violence in the world. You just share a strong irrational emotional response that fuels the problem

EVOLVIST
01-08-2014, 12:12 AM
This thread needs a little Norg & Uncle Rico for comedic relief.

TheMatrix31
01-08-2014, 02:37 AM
Well I certainly didn't think you alone were the cause of all the fan on fan violence in the world. You just share a strong irrational emotional response that fuels the problem


Oh okay bro. I'll let you know when I go kill someone in a parking lot bro.

2012Champs
01-08-2014, 06:58 AM
Oh okay bro. I'll let you know when I go kill someone in a parking lot bro.

It's okay bro, clearly this is over your head bro

Thorn
01-08-2014, 08:35 AM
This thread is why aliens won't land and talk to us. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves, you've destroyed mankind's future in a few simple posts.

DBCooper
01-08-2014, 08:55 AM
This thread is why aliens won't land and talk to us. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves, you've destroyed mankind's future in a few simple posts.

When I look at the thread title I say to myself "No way, Penn State could not turn a man that fast........."

ObsiWan
01-08-2014, 08:56 AM
2012Champs and TheMatrix31 you guys just need to kiss and get it over with, this tension is killing me!
Hey, they're talking thru it. That's a good start. It's what intelligent folks tend to do.

Carr Bombed
01-08-2014, 08:59 AM
I didnt list all possible reasons but rather I listed a few. I asked you if you had legit reasons.


Maybe this hate people have for other teams and by connection their fans are the reason why fan on fan violence is becoming more and more common. Well that and alcohol which only fuels irrational hate

Oh lord

DBCooper
01-08-2014, 09:01 AM
Hey, they're talking thru it. That's a good start. It's what intelligent folks tend to do.

Nah, this can only be settled in the Octagon!

BullNation4Life
01-08-2014, 09:21 AM
Nah, this can only be settled in the Octagon!

oooorrrrrr....

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michaelm
01-08-2014, 09:23 AM
Nah, this can only be settled in the Octagon!

It could be settled more quickly if they'd both just STFU.

ObsiWan
01-08-2014, 06:49 PM
It could be settled more quickly if they'd both just STFU.
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ObsiWan
01-08-2014, 06:52 PM
It could be settled more quickly if they'd both just STFU.
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michaelm
01-09-2014, 08:27 AM
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Thorn
01-09-2014, 08:29 AM
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I think we should beat ObsiWan's ass, obviously this type of behavior can't be tolerated.

Carr Bombed
01-09-2014, 08:58 AM
It could be settled more quickly if they'd both just STFU.

Where's the entertainment value in that? :)

This forum is officailly in the dead zone until the draft.

DBCooper
01-09-2014, 09:01 AM
I think we should beat ObsiWan's ass, obviously this type of behavior can't be tolerated.

No, we should do it just because he's over 60!

Marshall
01-09-2014, 09:02 AM
2-14

I'd say the baby crapped in the bathwater and it needed to be thrown out after the 6-10 2010 season. 8 yrs, started with a 2-14 ended with a 2-14, is that a nice round circle?

Do you think the Texans would've ever won a SB under Gary? The decision to keep Gary back in 2010 set the franchise back atleast 5-7 yrs, if winning a SB is the goal. Agree or disagree?

Disagree.

Marshall
01-09-2014, 09:06 AM
I didnt list all possible reasons but rather I listed a few. I asked you if you had legit reasons.


Maybe this hate people have for other teams and by connection their fans are the reason why fan on fan violence is becoming more and more common. Well that and alcohol which only fuels irrational hate

Who determines what is legit and what is not? You?

Texan_Bill
01-09-2014, 09:20 AM
I think we should beat ObsiWan's ass, obviously this type of behavior can't be tolerated.

I would pay damn good money to see two old farts fight it out.

ObsiWans v. Thorn...........

GO!


:popcorn:

DBCooper
01-09-2014, 09:29 AM
I would pay damn good money to see two old farts fight it out.

ObsiWans v. Thorn...........

GO!


:popcorn:

$500 on the Jedi!