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mussop
12-29-2013, 03:46 PM
Well it's official now! So who will it be? Make your case.

jaayteetx
12-29-2013, 03:48 PM
I'm hoping for a trade out of the spot personally.

Hervoyel
12-29-2013, 03:56 PM
Prefer a trade down as well

PapaL
12-29-2013, 03:57 PM
Teddy Texan or Clowney. Depends on who the next HC is. I'd love to see Clowney and Watt on the same 4-3 DL. Would be pretty damn happy w Teddy Texan. RT would be the worst possibility IMO.

Blake
12-29-2013, 04:00 PM
Teddy B. We need a franchise quarterback.

mussop
12-29-2013, 04:01 PM
I'm fine with Clowney, Bridgewater or trade down. I'm also looking forward to who's stock rises in the offseason evaluations. Will Bortles show enough to warrant being the top pick? What about Manzel? Don't be surprised if it happens. Mathews? I expect him to fall between 8 and 15. but we will see. Anyway at least we can finally put this season behind us. Here's to a new and brighter future. :toast2:

bOODRO87
12-29-2013, 04:03 PM
Teddy. A good QB makes a world of difference. I don't think Clowney would be a game changer. He'd be a luxury.

bah007
12-29-2013, 04:05 PM
#1. Clowney, but only if he absolutely kills his interview
#2. Bridgewater
#3. Trade Down

TexCanada
12-29-2013, 04:05 PM
It's got to be Teddy.

NastyNate
12-29-2013, 04:08 PM
Teddy Texan or Clowney. Depends on who the next HC is. I'd love to see Clowney and Watt on the same 4-3 DL. Would be pretty damn happy w Teddy Texan. RT would be the worst possibility IMO.

I'd be concerned with Clowney's work ethic, he has Haynesworth type of bust potential due to lack of interest after a payday, but you got to gamble to win. I'd ***** a little but about it but be happy for either of these picks.

mussop
12-29-2013, 04:10 PM
I'd be concerned with Clowney's work ethic, he has Haynesworth type of bust potential due to lack of interest after a payday, but you got to gamble to win. I'd ***** a little but about it but be happy for either of these picks.

Either way it's going to be exciting! A feeling we haven't had around here in a while. :doot:

beerlover
12-29-2013, 04:10 PM
1a. Teddy Bridgewater
1b. 2 one's 2 two's for Teddy Bridgewater

well done Texans, mission accomplished I guess :goodluck:

Texecutioner
12-29-2013, 04:11 PM
McNair won't pick Clowney. Thank god for that.

Would like to see the pick traded to get a lot of picks. Bridgewater us not a can't miss prospect to me.

JCTexan
12-29-2013, 04:19 PM
I want the best QB in the draft. Right now that's Bridgewater.

mussop
12-29-2013, 04:20 PM
McNair won't pick Clowney. Thank god for that.

Would like to see the pick traded to get a lot of picks. Bridgewater us not a can't miss prospect to me.

Bull****. If the new coach says I want Clowney, we will draft Clowney.

dalemurphy
12-29-2013, 05:31 PM
1. Teddy Bridgewater
2. Trade Down
3. Aaron Donald

JB
12-29-2013, 05:33 PM
1a. Teddy Bridgewater
1b. 2 one's 2 two's for Teddy Bridgewater

well done Texans, mission accomplished I guess :goodluck:

Door #2 please

Dutchrudder
12-29-2013, 06:35 PM
Bridgewater please.

Corrosion
12-29-2013, 09:24 PM
Bull****. If the new coach says I want Clowney, we will draft Clowney.

I cant see a team owned by Bob McNair drafting Clowney.


Its highly likely they take .... Johnny Football.

bah007
12-29-2013, 09:28 PM
I cant see a team owned by Bob McNair drafting Clowney.


Its highly likely they take .... Johnny Football.

Please no. We don't deserve that.

TexansFTW
12-29-2013, 11:30 PM
Is it too late to put a poll on this thread with the 4 options?

1. Teddy B
2. Clowney
3. Trade Down
4. Anything Else

I wanted to see how everyone thought in a concise poll

mussop
12-29-2013, 11:35 PM
Is it too late to put a poll on this thread with the 4 options?

1. Teddy B
2. Clowney
3. Trade Down
4. Anything Else

I wanted to see how everyone thought in a concise poll

Tried sorry couldn't do it. If a mod can add it please go ahead.

mussop
12-29-2013, 11:38 PM
Please no. We don't deserve that.

I ok with it. I think manzel and Clowney are the two most overly criticized players in college football.

TexansFTW
12-29-2013, 11:40 PM
I ok with it. I think manzel and Clowney are the two most overly criticized players in college football.

Because they had the 2 biggest Heisman hype leading into the season only to basically flop.

steelbtexan
12-29-2013, 11:41 PM
Teddy B. We need a franchise quarterback.

If only he was one.

Playoffs
12-29-2013, 11:42 PM
Way too soon to say. Lot's vetting to be done in the next 129 days.

BigBull
12-29-2013, 11:46 PM
he is the one.


Fixed it for you.


Sent from the future...

mussop
12-29-2013, 11:49 PM
Because they had the 2 biggest Heisman hype leading into the season only to basically flop.

You think Manzel was a flop this year?

steelbtexan
12-29-2013, 11:49 PM
I cant see a team owned by Bob McNair drafting Clowney.


Its highly likely they take .... Johnny Football.

Hopefully after trading down. Not that I want Johnny Football.

This would be a BoB type move. Fired the native son/beloved aggie. Replace him with an Aggie QB/Native Texan. Think of the PR you get from that move.

Texian
12-29-2013, 11:58 PM
Hopefully after trading down. Not that I want Johnny Football.

This would be a BoB type move. Fired the native son/beloved aggie. Replace him with an Aggie QB/Native Texan. Think of the PR you get from that move.

It would be more entertaining.

infantrycak
12-30-2013, 12:24 AM
Is it too late to put a poll on this thread with the 4 options?

1. Teddy B
2. Clowney
3. Trade Down
4. Anything Else

I wanted to see how everyone thought in a concise poll

Start a new thread with a poll and I will merge this into it.

Texian
12-30-2013, 12:39 AM
The final draft positions sans playoffs/Super Bowl:

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

bhsman
12-30-2013, 01:47 AM
Because they had the 2 biggest Heisman hype leading into the season only to basically flop.

Clowney had a disappointing season stat-wise but that doesn't explain it, but Manziel's season was a flop? Is that a joke?

mussop
12-30-2013, 08:37 AM
Clowney had a disappointing season stat-wise but that doesn't explain it, but Manziel's season was a flop? Is that a joke?

Just proves what I said. Both have been overly criticized. Manzel more so than Clowney. If this had been Manzels first year he would be in the talk for number one overall.

bah007
12-30-2013, 09:43 AM
If you don't like Bridgewater then fine. I disagree but it's not a big deal.

If you don't like Bridgewater but you do like Manziel then I'm speechless. Somebody needs to explain that one to me.

List the areas that Manziel is superior to Bridgewater.

TexansFTW
12-30-2013, 10:02 AM
Clowney had a disappointing season stat-wise but that doesn't explain it, but Manziel's season was a flop? Is that a joke?

For Heisman consideration I absolutely stand behind that statement. He had a great year statistically, but with regards to Heisman voting I felt like it was a flop.

I saw little improvement from his Heisman performance last year.

Over the last 2 seasons Tony Romo had games where he would start the game with 2-3 interceptions, the Cowboys would be playing from a huge deficit early and he would come back and throw 450 yards, 4 TDs, and 3 Picks.

When you don't watch the game and read the box score in the newspaper or online you say, "Woah, it wasn't his fault they lost, he played pretty damn good".

In reality, he cost them the game. When you go down 21-0 and the other team coasts to a "close" (on paper only) victory, you cost the game.

Heisman voters don't simply read box scores, they watch the games. Johnny had a great season if he wasn't a previous Heisman winner and on everybody's radar, but overall I felt that he had a disappointing second season with those regards.

And I'm sorry, but everyone can put up 50 points on Rice, I don't give a rats ass how a Heisman nominee plays against free wins on the schedule. I care about the games that are gonna define his and his team's BCS future.

Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn, Mizzou, LSU. Compare those games to guys like Winston's marquee matchups (and try to remember the games, not just the box scores). I guess I'm a comedian.

HOU-TEX
12-30-2013, 10:20 AM
I don't think trading back will be very easy this draft. There are no premier players to trade up to the #1 spot. I think we'll be stuck with the #1 pick and be forced to draft a player not worthy of the #1 overall.

Typical luck for Htown sports. Earn the 1st pick in a draft without Luck type talent.

Mr teX
12-30-2013, 10:27 AM
The best coaches in the league all have good qb play helping them solidfy their tenure. So it goes without saying the incoming new coach is gonna want to get his guy to help solidfy his tenure. He's got a great chance to do that with the #1 overall pick....It's Teddy B...& it's not close imo.

nero THE zero
12-30-2013, 10:57 AM
Teddy B. We need a franchise quarterback.

This.

I'd be okay with Clowney if we can find a veteran QB that is franchise-caliber. The odds of this are probably less now that they ended the season with a shot at the playoffs, but I would offer 2.01 to Pittsburgh for Roethlisberger and see if they bite.

drs23
12-30-2013, 11:11 AM
This.

I'd be okay with Clowney if we can find a veteran QB that is franchise-caliber. The odds of this are probably less now that they ended the season with a shot at the playoffs, but I would offer 2.01 to Pittsburgh for Roethlisberger and see if they bite.

I would be dumbfounded if they even sniffed, let alone nibble.

Texian
12-30-2013, 01:53 PM
Where the heck is the Texans "OPEN for BUSINESS" sign:

Rams GM Les Snead has "made it clear" that the team is "open for business" regarding the No. 2 pick, according to The MMQB's Peter King.

"He’d like to get an extra first-rounder out of the deal if possible, and with a major bargaining chip like Jadeveon Clowney or Teddy Bridgewater," King writes. "There are going to be some teams that want to pick a quarterback," Snead added. "And that could increase the value of our pick. I have told people I’m not sure I know how to draft without multiple first-round picks, so I’m always going to be interested when it comes to making sure I can continue to do that." Snead landed quite the haul for the pick that allowed Washington to select Robert Griffin III, and many of those picks became defensive starters. We doubt he will get thew same value here, but it does not sound like the rams are looking at a quarterback that early in the draft.

bOODRO87
12-30-2013, 02:05 PM
Where the heck is the Texans "OPEN for BUSINESS" sign:

Rams GM Les Snead has "made it clear" that the team is "open for business" regarding the No. 2 pick, according to The MMQB's Peter King.

"Hed like to get an extra first-rounder out of the deal if possible, and with a major bargaining chip like Jadeveon Clowney or Teddy Bridgewater," King writes. "There are going to be some teams that want to pick a quarterback," Snead added. "And that could increase the value of our pick. I have told people Im not sure I know how to draft without multiple first-round picks, so Im always going to be interested when it comes to making sure I can continue to do that." Snead landed quite the haul for the pick that allowed Washington to select Robert Griffin III, and many of those picks became defensive starters. We doubt he will get thew same value here, but it does not sound like the rams are looking at a quarterback that early in the draft.

Because Teddy is already looking at houses in Houston... :kitten:

badboy
12-30-2013, 02:13 PM
Where the heck is the Texans "OPEN for BUSINESS" sign:

Rams GM Les Snead has "made it clear" that the team is "open for business" regarding the No. 2 pick, according to The MMQB's Peter King.

"Hed like to get an extra first-rounder out of the deal if possible, and with a major bargaining chip like Jadeveon Clowney or Teddy Bridgewater," King writes. "There are going to be some teams that want to pick a quarterback," Snead added. "And that could increase the value of our pick. I have told people Im not sure I know how to draft without multiple first-round picks, so Im always going to be interested when it comes to making sure I can continue to do that." Snead landed quite the haul for the pick that allowed Washington to select Robert Griffin III, and many of those picks became defensive starters. We doubt he will get thew same value here, but it does not sound like the rams are looking at a quarterback that early in the draft.

I am hopeful this really increases a package for Texan's #1 as teams will be worried if someone will get that "next" QB if Houston does take Bridgewater. Interesting that on ESPN's mock neither guy has Browns taking QB at either spot. I wonder what Oakland could offer?

bhsman
12-30-2013, 02:31 PM
Heisman voters don't simply read box scores, they watch the games. Johnny had a great season if he wasn't a previous Heisman winner and on everybody's radar, but overall I felt that he had a disappointing second season with those regards.

Are you kidding? AJ McCarron getting second place is more evidence that they only care about box scores and not actual play; a guy like McCarron was carried by his team but 'just wins' whereas Manziel (and Mike Evans, to a lesser extent) carried his team, but because of a terrible defense they can't be guaranteed wins, even when they drop as many as 42 points on the #1 team in the nation.

Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn, Mizzou, LSU. Compare those games to guys like Winston's marquee matchups (and try to remember the games, not just the box scores). I guess I'm a comedian.

Three of those games saw Manziel's offense score in excess of thirty points while the defense allowed even more, and yet you blame Manziel? The LSU and Mizzou games can be attributed in part to his injury and playing good defenses (my alma mater, LSU, just seems to have Manziel's number; Death Valley isn't a fun place to play in for anyone but the Tigers), but even the Mizzou game was only decided by a touchdown.

Winston has played well this year, and earned the Heisman. To say that he outplayed Manziel is a little ridiculous when you look at who they play (FSU had an easier schedule than OSU, who was rightfully ridiculed for it) and their defense. Swap both teams' respective QBs and the result is probably similar.

TexansFTW
12-30-2013, 02:42 PM
Are you kidding? AJ McCarron getting second place is more evidence that they only care about box scores and not actual play; a guy like McCarron was carried by his team but 'just wins' whereas Manziel (and Mike Evans, to a lesser extent) carried his team, but because of a terrible defense they can't be guaranteed wins, even when they drop as many as 42 points on the #1 team in the nation.



Three of those games saw Manziel's offense score in excess of thirty points while the defense allowed even more, and yet you blame Manziel? The LSU and Mizzou games can be attributed in part to his injury and playing good defenses (my alma mater, LSU, just seems to have Manziel's number; Death Valley isn't a fun place to play in for anyone but the Tigers), but even the Mizzou game was only decided by a touchdown.

Winston has played well this year, and earned the Heisman. To say that he outplayed Manziel is a little ridiculous when you look at who they play (FSU had an easier schedule than OSU, who was rightfully ridiculed for it) and their defense. Swap both teams' respective QBs and the result is probably similar.

lol, fair enough bro.

Re-Read my Tony Romo analogy, then read this breakdown of the 2nd and 3rd quarter (I Haven't forgot what happened... 35-14)

http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=332570245&period=2

http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=332570245&period=3

If you think it's ridiculous to say that Winston outplayed Manziel then we probably don't have much else to say on this subject. To each their own I guess.

BullNation4Life
12-30-2013, 04:03 PM
I'm not making any decisions until after the combine and pro days...

There is always someone that shoots to the top

TexansFTW
12-30-2013, 04:27 PM
I'm not making any decisions until after the combine and pro days...

There is always someone that shoots to the top

This is the truth. It will likely be Clowney again. I imagine an athletic freak will make his pay day at the combine.

badboy
12-30-2013, 04:46 PM
I'm not making any decisions until after the combine and pro days...

There is always someone that shoots to the topPlayers that "shoot to the top" at combine and pro days worry me as to where were they the entire season?

Texian
12-30-2013, 04:52 PM
I'm not making any decisions until after the combine and pro days...

There is always someone that shoots to the top

I'm making decisions....but....they might change....I have that prerogative.

HJam72
12-30-2013, 05:39 PM
Players that "shoot to the top" at combine and pro days worry me as to where were they the entire season?

My sentiments exactly. Physical skills are one thing and how you use them in a real game is something else.

bah007
12-30-2013, 05:49 PM
The combine is one tool. If you're using it as the tool then you're ending up with an athlete, not necessarily a football player.

Honoring Earl 34
12-30-2013, 05:55 PM
At the end of the day Clowney and Greg Robinson will have the highest ceilings of

being great . Jimmy Johnson said you can't be great and not take chances l

HJam72
12-30-2013, 06:00 PM
At the end of the day Clowney and Greg Robinson will have the highest ceilings of

being great . Jimmy Johnson said you can't be great and not take chances l

Jimmy Johnson had like a gazillion picks to choose from. Yeah, I'll take my chances on the whole 1st round. Here's my 32 first picks. Pay 'em, Jerrah. :sarcasm:

Honoring Earl 34
12-30-2013, 06:56 PM
Jimmy Johnson had like a gazillion picks to choose from. Yeah, I'll take my chances on the whole 1st round. Here's my 32 first picks. Pay 'em, Jerrah. :sarcasm:

He hit 5 out of 12 with the gazillion picks . :lion:

He said you gotta take chances when he picked Daryl Gardener while he was coaching the Dolphins .

Texian
12-30-2013, 07:07 PM
Jimmy Johnson had like a gazillion picks to choose from. Yeah, I'll take my chances on the whole 1st round. Here's my 32 first picks. Pay 'em, Jerrah. :sarcasm:

At the end of the day Clowney and Greg Robinson will have the highest ceilings of

being great . Jimmy Johnson said you can't be great and not take chances l

He hit 5 out of 12 with the gazillion picks . :lion:

He said you gotta take chances when he picked Daryl Gardener while he was coaching the Dolphins .

IIRC I think Jimmy's reference to taking chances was mainly directed to the 2nd half of the draft. In particular he thought if he didn't have a clear cut decision on a player take the best athlete. It's been 10 years since I read his book.

Honoring Earl 34
12-30-2013, 07:13 PM
IIRC I think Jimmy's reference to taking chances was mainly directed to the 2nd half of the draft. In particular he thought if he didn't have a clear cut decision on a player take the best athlete. It's been 10 years since I read his book.

It was when he picked Gardener who looked like Tarzan but played like Jane . He thought he could light a fire under his butt .

Texian
12-30-2013, 07:23 PM
It was when he picked Gardener who looked like Tarzan but played like Jane . He thought he could light a fire under his butt .

Yes , you're correct. Now I remember when he was in Miami. In his book he discusses taking chances in the 2nd half of the draft.

Honoring Earl 34
12-30-2013, 07:33 PM
Yes , you're correct. Now I remember when he was in Miami. In his book he discusses taking chances in the 2nd half of the draft.

He would go watch the big guys play hoops to see how they moved . Erik Williams , Larry Allen , and Leon Lett were steals .

Nawzer
01-01-2014, 02:17 PM
Clowney looks unimpressive so far against Wisconsin. Doesn't look like he's worth the no. 1 pick.

Texian
01-01-2014, 02:24 PM
Clowney looks unimpressive so far against Wisconsin. Doesn't look like he's worth the no. 1 pick.

Yeah, it's hard to look impressive when you're constantly double, triple and even quadruplely being blocked. However that in itself is pretty impressive.

Nawzer
01-01-2014, 02:34 PM
Yeah, it's hard to look impressive when you're constantly double, triple and even quadruplely being blocked. However that in itself is pretty impressive.

I haven't seen him being double, triple or quadruple teamed a lot today. Wisconsin is just running their power run game right at them. He did make a couple of nice plays at the end but Wisconsin still scored.

Texian
01-01-2014, 02:37 PM
I haven't seen him being double, triple or quadruple teamed a lot today.

That's about all I have seen.

Rock N Randy
01-01-2014, 02:41 PM
It's a combination of things
When you know your about to make millions and your one cut block away from losing millions easier said then done
Plus he is being focused and targeted in the blocking schemes so he is impressive because he is beig phrased out
If they are not blocking him they are rolling out away from him or running away from him.

It is unipressive unfortunately but he is impacting the game just by his presence

JB
01-01-2014, 02:51 PM
Clowney looks unimpressive so far against Wisconsin. Doesn't look like he's worth the no. 1 pick.

He's getting pushed right by the qb and is being handled quite easily by the Wisconsin left tackle from what I see

mussop
01-01-2014, 03:02 PM
He's getting pushed right by the qb and is being handled quite easily by the Wisconsin left tackle from what I see

You must be watching the wrong game.

Texian
01-01-2014, 03:11 PM
Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 47m

Wisconsin is doubling or chipping Clowney on every passing play

JB
01-01-2014, 03:16 PM
JJ's brother just took him out easy with a cut block, no one else touched him. Next play he wasn't doubled or chipped. See him stopping any pursuit pretty early.

mussop
01-01-2014, 03:17 PM
Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 47m

Wisconsin is doubling or chipping Clowney on every passing play

Now he's watching the right game.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 03:21 PM
Not sold on Clowney either at #1 . Of course I can say the same about Barr .

infantrycak
01-01-2014, 03:38 PM
Now he's watching the right game.

Which isn't close to the same thing as triples and quadruples.

Honoring Earl 34
01-01-2014, 03:40 PM
Which isn't close to the same thing as triples and quadruples.

We talking figure skating ?

infantrycak
01-01-2014, 03:43 PM
We talking figure skating ?

According to Texian's eyes, apparently so.

mussop
01-01-2014, 03:44 PM
Which isn't close to the same thing as triples and quadruples.

And???????

mussop
01-01-2014, 03:46 PM
According to Texian's eyes, apparently so.

I missed that. He has been doubled and chipped a lot. And you can tell he's been game planned against. The third quarter they hardly ran to his side.

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 03:48 PM
Even if Clowney does nothing memorable this game he still has a top 5 pick sewed up.

Then I assume at the combine he is going to be the most athletic DE by a wide margin easily cementing him in the top 2-3.

infantrycak
01-01-2014, 03:49 PM
I missed that. He has been doubled and chipped a lot. And you can tell he's been game planned against.

Agreed.

Uncle Rico
01-01-2014, 04:12 PM
I guess its good for Clowney that in the NFL they don't double or chip right? <sarc>

Texian
01-01-2014, 04:12 PM
Which isn't close to the same thing as triples and quadruples.

We talking figure skating ?

According to Texian's eyes, apparently so.

Sorry boys, if you had been watching the whole game you would have seen a couple of times 3 players hit #7 and on one occasion 4 players took their a shot. Might be part of the WISC game plan, beat him up.

mussop
01-01-2014, 04:13 PM
I guess its good for Clowney that in the NFL they don't double or chip right? <sarc>

Let em. That will just be that much less attention on Watt.

JB
01-01-2014, 04:18 PM
Well Clowney certainly put up an impressive stat line

5 tckls, 1 tfl, 1 qb hurry

Color me unimpressed

mussop
01-01-2014, 04:29 PM
Well Clowney certainly put up an impressive stat line

5 tckls, 1 tfl, 1 qb hurry

Color me unimpressed

**** stats. Did you watch the game?

Texecutioner
01-01-2014, 04:33 PM
Well Clowney certainly put up an impressive stat line

5 tckls, 1 tfl, 1 qb hurry

Color me unimpressed

It's really weird, because so many of these Clowney fanatics could care less about what the guy has actually done in the most important season of his career where everything has mattered the most for him. Even in those big televised games where the bright lights were on Clowney he didn't show up hardly. Every time I tried to watch this guy and see what the hype was about, he didn't deliver. But since ESPN put all of these pieces on him at the beginning of the season and because of a few freak plays from last season, people refuse to acknowledge or register all of the character issues and more importantly the average play he brings on a more consistent basis. All I keep hearing is that "he's a freak" or "him and Watt" will do this and that, but we could say that about any really good player we put next to Watt. I want to put a great player next to Watt with a great attitude like Watt has and also the endless motor that Watt plays with consistently. Clowney and Watt are two completely different players mentally.

JB
01-01-2014, 04:33 PM
**** stats. Did you watch the game?

yeah I did, and I'll agree that he is a terrific athlete. I think he has a very questionable ethic. We'll know by combine time what kind of work ethic he's likely to have.

Paired with Watt, IF he follows JJ lead on how to work and how to prepare, we could have an awesome dl

steelbtexan
01-01-2014, 04:48 PM
Well Clowney certainly put up an impressive stat line

5 tckls, 1 tfl, 1 qb hurry

Color me unimpressed

1 tipped pass that caused an INT. He was double teamed by two OL and chipped by a RB on that play. Clowney drew a triple team on a 4th and 1 running play that allowed the LB to make the stop on the pivotal play in the game.

Clowney made a huge impact on the game regardless of what the stats say. He was constantly in the backfield applying pressure. If you want to see how great Watt can be draft Clowney. You cant double team both Watt and
Clowney. (Instant pressure on the QB) It also may make the crap at DT (Mitchell/McClain etc... look alot better. Think of Jerome Brown/Reggie White. RIP

steelbtexan
01-01-2014, 04:51 PM
It's really weird, because so many of these Clowney fanatics could care less about what the guy has actually done in the most important season of his career where everything has mattered the most for him. Even in those big televised games where the bright lights were on Clowney he didn't show up hardly. Every time I tried to watch this guy and see what the hype was about, he didn't deliver. But since ESPN put all of these pieces on him at the beginning of the season and because of a few freak plays from last season, people refuse to acknowledge or register all of the character issues and more importantly the average play he brings on a more consistent basis. All I keep hearing is that "he's a freak" or "him and Watt" will do this and that, but we could say that about any really good player we put next to Watt. I want to put a great player next to Watt with a great attitude like Watt has and also the endless motor that Watt plays with consistently. Clowney and Watt are two completely different players mentally.

Clowney accomplished his mission this yr. He didn't get hurt and will be a top 5 pick. I really cant blame him for this line of thinking. Did you watch him and forcus only on Clowney today against a really good Wisconcin OL? He was dominant.

TexansFTW
01-01-2014, 05:59 PM
Don't know where this Clowney hate from today's game is coming from. Dude had a terrific game and the Game Cocks pretty handily took care of a solid Wisconsin offense (who year after year produce very solid Lineman on both sides of the ball).

Asking for the next JJ Watt is not really that feasible. 32 teams try to draft a guy like JJ Watt every year. Clowney is not JJ Watt, but who cares, dude is a beast.

With the #1 overall pick in an NFL draft I want the Texans to draft someone that will die in a Houston Texans uniform, not a 4 year rental. In a hard cap NFL you simply CANNOT sink $150 million into your D Line. Therefore after 4 years dude is gone, or Watt is gone. Sorry Clowney, but I want the guy that won Defensive player of the year to be wearing the Texans uniform 5 years from now.

Clowney is going to be a great NFL pro despite these shots at his character or taking plays off, I just don't want it to be on the Texans.

bah007
01-01-2014, 07:05 PM
Hate Clowney for his question marks if you want to, there are valid reasons to dislike him. But he played a really good game today.

On a different note, I need to study Connor Shaw some more. He's not an elite talent, but he's got something going for him. Looks like Jordan Lynch with an arm.