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Sigma
12-28-2013, 06:06 PM
According to Mr. Rapsheet, the Texans planned to interview one more candidate Monday before settling on their future coach.

So, I know this is not official but I've seen a lot of those "rumors" becoming truth to be a little concerned.

I'm not an expert but I thought they would have waited untill after the playoffs in order to interview some coordinators or people that are currently working in other NFL teams.

Is there some upside to choosing the new HC this early?

Source (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000304961/article/houston-texans-plan-to-hire-new-coach-by-tuesday)

WolverineFan
12-28-2013, 06:14 PM
I would say the upside is you can lock up your #1 choice before another team gets a shot at him.

DX-TEX
12-28-2013, 06:17 PM
I would say the upside is you can lock up your #1 choice before another team gets a shot at him.

There you go. O'Brien will be a HOT commodity when the season ends. You want him get him right now.

BigBull
12-28-2013, 06:20 PM
I would say the upside is you can lock up your #1 choice before another team gets a shot at him.


I would also add it gives you a jump on hiring assistant coaches.


Sent from the future...

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 06:21 PM
Is there some upside to choosing the new HC this early?

If it's Bill O'Brien I'd say yes.

the Texans planned to interview one more candidate MondayWhisenhunt?

ArlingtonTexan
12-28-2013, 06:22 PM
The advantages

1) the ability to lock into your guy versus not having the full range of candidates

2) the new coach should have full ability to pick his staff before his top assistants candidates get hired.

3) Implimentation of his systems as soon as possible.

4) working as long as possible with the GM/scouting department on both NFL free agency and draft preparation.

Big con

Not being able to react if someone unexpected becomes available.

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 06:23 PM
Bill O'Brien, Texans working on deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach)

By Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter | ESPN

Bill O'Brien has emerged as the overwhelming favorite to become the next coach of the Houston Texans, and the two sides are working to get a deal in place within the next week, league sources told ESPN...

beerlover
12-28-2013, 06:26 PM
Bill O'Brien, Texans working on deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach)

By Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter | ESPN

Solid.

Texian
12-28-2013, 06:28 PM
In another 48 hours there will likely be another 4-5 NFL HC openings. I am not naive enough to be believe that talks only begin after a coach is fired. I do believe that back channel discussions have been ongoing for almost all teams looking for a new head coach.

kingtexan
12-28-2013, 06:31 PM
Bill O'Brien, Texans working on deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach)

By Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter | ESPN

Ok, what about the Defense?

Wonder if Greg Williams would consider coming over from the Tacks?

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 06:32 PM
Solid.

Yeah, he must be as impressive as all reports have painted him to be to truncate the search. I thought the common ground Lovie has with Rick might sway the decision. I'm getting excited over here... in a totally manly, NFL football, Texans fan sort of way. :doot:

kingtexan
12-28-2013, 06:33 PM
Yeah, he must be as impressive as all reports have painted him to be to truncate the search. I thought the common ground Lovie has with Rick might sway the decision. I'm getting excited over her... in a totally manly, NFL football, Texans fan sort of way. :doot:

Yeah I would like the move, but want to see what they do with Smith. He should not have his job on Monday.

Also it leaves the Defense in limbo, since we know Wade is gone.

texanchris
12-28-2013, 06:37 PM
I wonder if Lovie would be willing to be our D coordinator if Bill O'brien gets hired as our HC

beerlover
12-28-2013, 06:38 PM
Yeah, he must be as impressive as all reports have painted him to be to truncate the search. I thought the common ground Lovie has with Rick might sway the decision. I'm getting excited over here... in a totally manly, NFL football, Texans fan sort of way. :doot:

Me too! Now on to Bridgewater......

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 06:41 PM
I wonder if Lovie would be willing to be our D coordinator if Bill O'brien gets hired as our HC

Lovie deserves and will get his own gig, imo.

kingtexan
12-28-2013, 06:41 PM
Me too! Now on to Bridgewater......

Nooooooooo! Win tomorrow so he isn't even an option ... please!

welsh texan
12-28-2013, 06:46 PM
Nooooooooo! Win tomorrow so he isn't even an option ... please!

The rams aren't gonna take him are they?

MistaRed
12-28-2013, 06:49 PM
The rams aren't gonna take him are they?

I doubt it. But the rams can always trade down with another qb hungry team.

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 06:49 PM
Not to pee on anyone's Wheaties here, but...

John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
Bob McNair on being close to hiring Bill O'Brien: "The process continues. We have other interviews scheduled next week. It isn't over."

ESPN reporting Texans negotiating with Bill O'Brien and could be close to hiring him. He and Lovie Smith have been top candidates.

Texian
12-28-2013, 06:50 PM
I have said it before and I say it again, O'Brien knows Blake Bortles. O'Brien watched Bortles beat Penn State in State College at Beaver Stadium 34-31 this year.

Blake Bortles vs Penn State (2013)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6JLz-M9E8E

welsh texan
12-28-2013, 06:57 PM
I have said it before and I say it again, O'Brien knows Blake Bortles. O'Brien watched Bortles beat Penn State in State College at Beaver Stadium 34-31 this year.

Blake Bortles vs Penn State (2013)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6JLz-M9E8E

What precedent is there for coach/QB combinations moving from college to nfl?

Guess it's hard to quantify the effect really but on the flip side of any positives you are asking two key personnel to transfer their skill set to the pros at once and need them both to succeed.

thunderkyss
12-28-2013, 06:59 PM
So, I know this is not official but I've seen a lot of those "rumors" becoming truth to be a little concerned.

I'm not an expert but I thought they would have waited untill after the playoffs in order to interview some coordinators or people that are currently working in other NFL teams.

Is there some upside to choosing the new HC this early?

Source (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000304961/article/houston-texans-plan-to-hire-new-coach-by-tuesday)

If O'Brien was their top candidate & he's agreed in principal..... why wait?


The one guy we'll interview Monday will be Wade & it's going to go something like this, "Are you packed yet?"

kingtexan
12-28-2013, 07:01 PM
Not to pee on anyone's Wheaties here, but...

John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL

Let me see .... do I trust the Walrus, or Mort?

Hmmm ...

No brainer.

Texian
12-28-2013, 07:05 PM
What precedent is there for coach/QB combinations moving from college to nfl?

Guess it's hard to quantify the effect really but on the flip side of any positives you are asking two key personnel to transfer their skill set to the pros at once and need them both to succeed.

Only that O'Brien has seen Bortles up close and personal and has watched Bortles beat his team in O'Brien's own backyard. O'Brien knows what Bortles can do.

WolverineFan
12-28-2013, 07:20 PM
Don't be surprised to see O'Brien target Ohio QB Tyler Tettleton late in the draft. He's seen him up close after Tettleton marched his team into Happy Valley and knocked off Penn State to start the 2012 season.

Also, don't be shocked if O'Brien targets Nebraska walk-on QB Ray Kellogg as an undrafted Free Agent after he led his Nebraska team to a win in Happy Valley in place of the injured Taylor Martinez late this year.

welsh texan
12-28-2013, 07:25 PM
Only that O'Brien has seen Bortles up close and personal and has watched Bortles beat his team in O'Brien's own backyard. O'Brien knows what Bortles can do.

Ahh right don't get to see any college football over here so I'm not aware of who's where really!! Thanks for the info.

I guess if obrien comes in and likes Bortles that allows us the freedom to drop back in the draft and get a couple of years being stacked in the early rounds. That's going to be a big help in getting this team back to where it should be!!

PapaL
12-28-2013, 07:35 PM
Don't be surprised to see O'Brien target Ohio QB Tyler Tettleton late in the draft. He's seen him up close after Tettleton marched his team into Happy Valley and knocked off Penn State to start the 2012 season.

Also, don't be shocked if O'Brien targets Nebraska walk-on QB Ray Kellogg as an undrafted Free Agent after he led his Nebraska team to a win in Happy Valley in place of the injured Taylor Martinez late this year.

Hahaha. MSR

NastyNate
12-28-2013, 07:40 PM
Ahh right don't get to see any college football over here so I'm not aware of who's where really!! Thanks for the info.

I guess if obrien comes in and likes Bortles that allows us the freedom to drop back in the draft and get a couple of years being stacked in the early rounds. That's going to be a big help in getting this team back to where it should be!!

I HIGHLY doubt that happens. Texian is reaching pretty hard there.

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 07:41 PM
More pee...

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
5-star DT Thomas Holley says #PSU coach Bill O’Brien told him O’Brien “isn’t going” to Texans http://pennstate.247sports.com/Article/Bill-OBrien-tells-Thomas-Holley-hes-staying-168244 … We’ll see if this holds

add...
Having tweeted the O’Brien link… I rely on my 5 years covering the SEC to say coaches always tell recruits they aren’t going places. Until…

houstonspartan
12-28-2013, 07:58 PM
More pee...

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet


add...


So, basically, O'Brien is either lying to us about being sincerely interested in the position, or he is possibly lying to a high school kid?

Ugh. And I was starting to like this dude...


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Playoffs
12-28-2013, 07:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V0hSri6BM


So, basically, O'Brien is either lying to us about being sincerely interested in the position, or he is possibly lying to a high school kid?S.O.P. Mack Brown just did the same. They all have to if the timing is wrong.

WolverineFan
12-28-2013, 07:59 PM
So, basically, O'Brien is either lying to us about being sincerely interested in the position, or he is possibly lying to a high school kid?

Ugh. And I was starting to like this dude...


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That's just part of recruiting. Every coach does this.

kingtexan
12-28-2013, 08:04 PM
That's just part of recruiting. Every coach does this.

Have actually heard it is part of their contract, that if they are leaving they cant do or say anything to jeopardize the recruits that have already committed. Not sure if that is accurate, but makes sense ... kind of like a non-compete type clause.

Thorn
12-28-2013, 08:05 PM
I'll be glad when they hire whomever as head coach. Then the process of filling his coaching staff can begin, which can be just as interesting as the HC himself.

houstonspartan
12-28-2013, 08:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V0hSri6BM


S.O.P. Mack Brown just did the same. They all have to if the timing is wrong.


Fair point.


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kingtexan
12-28-2013, 08:09 PM
I'll be glad when they hire whomever as head coach. Then the process of filling his coaching staff can begin, which can be just as interesting as the HC himself.

Very true.

The HC should just be a manager for the ones calling the plays.

If we don't get the right OC, DC, and STC then its same ole same ole.

Unless he plans on calling his own plays, and that would scare me.

Texian
12-28-2013, 08:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V0hSri6BM


S.O.P. Mack Brown just did the same. They all have to if the timing is wrong.

At the time Mack was going to still be the head coach. Saban did tell a 5 star that he wasn't going anywhere.

Texian
12-28-2013, 08:17 PM
I HIGHLY doubt that happens. Texian is reaching pretty hard there.

I'm not reaching for anything, just pointing out that O'Brien has seen Bortles up close and personal. That could work For or Against Bortles. Unlike WF I was not trying to be silly.

ArlingtonTexan
12-28-2013, 08:31 PM
At the time Mack was going to still be the head coach. Saban did tell a 5 star that he wasn't going anywhere.

Until every single thing is finalized on a contract, O'Brien is still the head coach Penn State.

Texecutioner
12-28-2013, 08:33 PM
Getting really excited!!!:doot:

dalemurphy
12-28-2013, 08:38 PM
Getting really excited!!!:doot:

I love the idea of getting moving with assembly of his staff before the rest of the NFL. People underestimate the significance of the assistants available and working relationships already established. We don't want a rookie nfl head coach to oversee a bunch of career NFL coordinators that he has never worked with before.

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 08:45 PM
Getting really excited!!!:doot:

If Mort & Shefter are wrong on this, they should lose their Twitter privileges. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/dpaisley/smilies/nervious.gif

Trap_Star
12-28-2013, 08:48 PM
If Mort & Shefter are wrong on this, they should lose their Twitter privileges. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/dpaisley/smilies/nervious.gif

ala chris broussard? :kubepalm:

Fred
12-28-2013, 08:48 PM
I'm not reaching for anything, just pointing out that O'Brien has seen Bortles up close and personal. That could work For or Against Bortles. Unlike WF I was not trying to be silly.

WF wasn't trying to be silly, he was just using humor to show that even though you weren't trying to be silly, in fact - you were being silly.

kingtexan
12-28-2013, 08:49 PM
If Mort & Shefter are wrong on this, they should lose their Twitter privileges. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/dpaisley/smilies/nervious.gif

If they are wrong, Cutioner just wasted a Viagra ... :ahhaha:

Playoffs
12-28-2013, 09:21 PM
From last offseason... :mariopalm:By Adam Schefter | ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8800439/andy-reid-favorite-become-arizona-cardinals-coach-sources)

Former Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid has emerged as a candidate to become the Arizona Cardinals' next head coach, according to team and league sources.

One league source said he was "95 percent" certain Reid will wind up coaching the Cardinals, and multiple sources stated that he could agree to accept the job by the end of the week.

http://www.mikedame.net/smiley/anxious-1.gif

ArlingtonTexan
12-28-2013, 09:35 PM
If Mort & Shefter are wrong on this, they should lose their Twitter privileges. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/dpaisley/smilies/nervious.gif

From last offseason... :mariopalm:

http://www.mikedame.net/smiley/anxious-1.gif

meh..they deal in rumors which by definition means they are going to be wrong ...a lot.

Marshall
12-28-2013, 09:46 PM
The rams aren't gonna take him are they?

Probably not, but they will probably hold an auction to see how lucrative an offer they can get for the top pick. Their needs are easily filled later in the round.

Sigma
12-28-2013, 10:16 PM
I see a lot of people that think Wade Phillips will be fired

Is this likely? They wanted to interview him for the HC spot, doesn't that mean that at least his DC role is safe?

PapaL
12-28-2013, 10:20 PM
I see a lot of people that think Wade Phillips will be fired

Is this likely? They wanted to interview him for the HC spot, doesn't that mean that at least his DC role is safe?

We can only hope it's not safe. Screw what the stats say, our D is horrible. We need to clean house. Wade included.

Thorn
12-28-2013, 10:22 PM
We can only hope it's not safe. Screw what the stats say, our D is horrible. We need to clean house. Wade included.

Agreed. As much as I personally like Wade, Son Of Bum, he's just not doing a good job with the defense. Granted, half of his defense on IR or playing with injuries, but still our defense just plain sucks. As does the whole team actually. Which is why I like to see a total house cleaning as well.

Txn_in_FL
12-28-2013, 10:23 PM
From last offseason... :mariopalm:

http://www.mikedame.net/smiley/anxious-1.gif

Technically, they both have red in their uniforms so it still was a correct prediction. Kind of...

Thorn
12-28-2013, 10:27 PM
I heard a rumor they were hiring all these guys as coaches.

http://hqwallbase.com/images/medium/a-Star-Trek-Crew-Playing-Instruments-Wallpaper-2560x1440.jpg

TexansBull
12-28-2013, 10:49 PM
I heard a rumor they were hiring all these guys as coaches.





http://hqwallbase.com/images/medium/a-Star-Trek-Crew-Playing-Instruments-Wallpaper-2560x1440.jpg



I assume Kirk is the head coach, but who are the coordinators? Spock for defense and McCoy for offense? That has me excited!

BigBull
12-28-2013, 10:51 PM
I assume Kirk is the head coach, but who are the coordinators? Spock for defense and McCoy for offense? That has me excited!


To go where no coach has gone before.


Sent from the future...

Texian
12-28-2013, 11:02 PM
WF wasn't trying to be silly, he was just using humor to show that even though you weren't trying to be silly, in fact - you were being silly.

I think this is the most silliest thing I have ever read. :)

thunderkyss
12-28-2013, 11:40 PM
Getting really excited!!!:doot:

Blue pill excited? Or natural excited?

thunderkyss
12-28-2013, 11:43 PM
We can only hope it's not safe. Screw what the stats say, our D is horrible. We need to clean house. Wade included.

I think you have an inflated opinion of our defense. They're nowhere near as good as you think.

Norg
12-28-2013, 11:48 PM
who cares rick is still our GM intill hes fired this team is not going places

cstyle42
12-29-2013, 12:00 AM
who cares rick is still our GM intill hes fired this team is not going places

If he needs to be fired then fire him. Maybe if O'Brien is hired he will personally request it.

Norg
12-29-2013, 12:23 AM
If he needs to be fired then fire him. Maybe if O'Brien is hired he will personally request it.


I hope your right I hope your right

Playoffs
12-29-2013, 12:53 AM
How Bill O'Brien won over the Houston Texans: Tom Brady fight only helped new coach in waiting (http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/12-28-13-how-bill-obrien-won-over-the-houston-texans-tom-brady-fight-only-helped-no-1-target/)
The Houston Texans are closing in on landing the No. 1 target of their head coaching search: Penn State University coach Bill O'Brien. CultureMap was the first news outlet anywhere to report that O'Brien was the Texans' top choice to be the team's new coach back on Dec. 18.

A source close to the search tells CultureMap that Texans owner Bob McNair started leaning toward O'Brien early in the search and never let the prospect of having to possibly pay a $6.7 million buyout to Penn State to land the former Bill Belichick disciple faze him.

"McNair loves O'Brien's toughness," the source says.

Bob McNair started leaning toward O'Brien early in the search and never let the prospect of having to pay a big buyout faze him.

Now, ESPN's NFL insiders Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter are reporting that the Texans and O'Brien -- arguably the most impressive head coaching candidate available-- are working on getting a contract done...

The early start — a source tells CultureMap that the Texans contacted coaches through back channels to determine who would be legitimately interested in the head job in the probability it opened up even before Kubiak was fired — gave McNair and Texans general manager Rick Smith a jump on the other teams that hoped to court O'Brien.

McNair's long desired a tougher, more mentally strong team. He cited that as a priority after the Texans blew a golden opportunity to be the AFC's No. 1 seed late in the 2012 season...

steelbtexan
12-29-2013, 01:29 AM
I'll be glad when they hire whomever as head coach. Then the process of filling his coaching staff can begin, which can be just as interesting as the HC himself.

It sure can be.

Mangini as DC

Who would be the ST coach?

Scarnecchia (SP) Spygate is coming to Houston, Hopefully Lombardi's too.

HJam72
12-29-2013, 08:17 AM
Anyone with any legitimate credentials would be an upgrade for ST Coach. It's a win/win situation.

Playoffs
12-29-2013, 10:19 AM
Schefter this a.m. on ESPN:

"I'm told this could get done by the end of the week. Now I'm also told there have been no contract discussions to date and that to think it could get done early this week might be a bit premature. But when we speak to people around the league there seems to be widespread consensus that it is hard to image that Bill O'Brien doesn't wind up going to Houston and becoming the next head coach of the Houston Texans.

Here's a man who cut his teeth in the NFL, knows the NFL, has a creative mind, would bring a lot of energy and excitement to the Houston offense and the organization. He looks the be the guy that the Texans organization is dialed into getting and focused into getting and eventually, when we speak to people around the NFL, they believe that Houston will get its man."

Depends on when Schefter's "week" begins & ends, but still firm in his reporting.

IDEXAN
12-29-2013, 10:28 AM
At this point I'm with Thomas Holley and won't believe that O'brien takes the job until we all see him sitting down with Bob McNair at a presser in Houston. Hell, O'brien doesn't even know what his other options might be until this week when the regular NFL season is over and the owners have completed their annual blood-letting. Their could be 3 or 4, maybe a half dozen job openings develope between now and Tuesday night.

Vinny
12-29-2013, 10:53 AM
I just retweeted this...

NFL Media PR ‏@InsideNFLMedia 17m
From @RapSheet on Bill O'Brien & Texans: "He is so confident he’s getting this job he’s told staff members be ready to come with me."

thunderkyss
12-29-2013, 11:31 AM
How Bill O'Brien won over the Houston Texans: Tom Brady fight only helped new coach in waiting (http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/12-28-13-how-bill-obrien-won-over-the-houston-texans-tom-brady-fight-only-helped-no-1-target/)The early start — a source tells CultureMap that the Texans contacted coaches through back channels to determine who would be legitimately interested in the head job in the probability it opened up even before Kubiak was fired — gave McNair and Texans general manager Rick Smith a jump on the other teams that hoped to court O'Brien.


I'm not seeing it as a jump or advantage. If we can put out feelers before firing our head coach, chances are the other teams did the same thing. So the Texans interviewed a man who has a good idea which teams are interested. The Texans obviously left that interview feeling that O'Brien is ready to take the job.

The only thing I'd worry about is if other teams contacted O'Brien since they heard he is our leading candidate & O'Brien has a better option available to him than he did at the time of the interview..... say Pittsburgh decided it's time to move on, so they send word to O'Brien's people that they want him. Or Belichick decides to step down & identifies O'Brien as his heir apparent. Those kinds of things can change the landscape & Houston most likely won't know until Tuesday. Unless O'Brien is a stand-up guy & he calls Bob (because Rick is obviously taking a back seat on this decision) & hints that he has other options he needs to weigh.

On the other hand, Wisenhunt will probably be interviewed because O'Brien left the Texans with the understanding that he wants to wait & see what other options present themselves come Monday.

With that in mind, if their top prospect ends up being the guy the choose, I'm fine with what has transpired so far. If not, then I'd like to see the Texans talk to the Seahawks DC or the Bengals DC before making up their mind.

Fred
12-29-2013, 11:47 AM
At this point I'm with Thomas Holley and won't believe that O'brien takes the job until we all see him sitting down with Bob McNair at a presser in Houston. Hell, O'brien doesn't even know what his other options might be until this week when the regular NFL season is over and the owners have completed their annual blood-letting. Their could be 3 or 4, maybe a half dozen job openings develope between now and Tuesday night.

I understand that many people on this board hate Houston, the Texans, McNair, Rick Smith, and every player on the team except AJ and JJ (both of whom you are convinced will demand to be traded).

Reality is the Texans HC job is as good or better than any NFL HC job that will be available. The Texans roster has a lot of high level talent. As much as SF or Seattle? No, but those jobsare not coming open. The owner is committed to winning, but not a meddler. If a $5000,000 hydronukeblastalaster will help you win, McNair will buy it for you. I know folks think McNair is a raving id!ot and a terrible judge of everything related to football because the Texans have not won a Super Bowl yet. But what about those "model franchises" theSteelers and the Patriots? How many years before they won their first championships? Maybe they snuck one in, but I'm thinking Steelers over 50 years, Patriots about 40.

If I was O'Brien I wouldn't let the hope of Oakland or Cleveland or Detroit cost me a job in Houston.

JB
12-29-2013, 11:54 AM
On the other hand, Wisenhunt will probably be interviewed because O'Brien left the Texans with the understanding that he wants to wait & see what other options present themselves come Monday.


Link?

thunderkyss
12-29-2013, 11:57 AM
Link?

Did you see that word "probably" I'm just trying to figure out why the Texans would interview a fourth candidate if their top choice had a good interview & he remains their top choice.

JB
12-29-2013, 12:01 PM
Did you see that word "probably" I'm just trying to figure out why the Texans would interview a fourth candidate if their top choice had a good interview & he remains their top choice.


Probably because the Texans had already let it be known that they were interested in interviewing Wisenhunt, and it would be foolish not to interview anyone that they had any interest in.

Your probably was tied into bringing Wisenhunt in and did not seem to tie to O'Brien thinking he wanted to explore the market.

Nawzer
12-29-2013, 12:07 PM
Texans ownership showing some urgency for once?! I don't know if this deal will happen on Tuesday, but I do find it strange. I hope they do get a coach soon so that this abhorrent season behind them and move forward.

Texian
12-29-2013, 12:09 PM
In another 48 hours there will likely be another 4-5 NFL HC openings. I am not naive enough to be believe that talks only begin after a coach is fired. I do believe that back channel discussions have been ongoing for almost all teams looking for a new head coach.

just saying....

Playoffs
12-29-2013, 12:59 PM
Probably because the Texans had already let it be known that they were interested in interviewing Wisenhunt, and it would be foolish not to interview anyone that they had any interest in...

It's called doing your due diligence. I'm sure they drew up a strategic plan with the consultant, and you follow through on that.

But it's obvious O'Brien was so impressive that Mr. McNair fell in love. And Robert Kraft will strongly recommend McNair as one of the top owners in the league to work for to Bill O'Brien, his former employee. McNair wants his hire-him-and-keep-him Head Coach like Kraft has. He desires that same organizational stability. He knows turnover at the top puts you behind the eight ball.

JB
12-29-2013, 01:18 PM
It's called doing your due diligence. I'm sure they drew up a strategic plan with the consultant, and you follow through on that.

But it's obvious O'Brien was so impressive that Mr. McNair fell in love. And Robert Kraft will strongly recommend McNair as one of the top owners in the league to work for to Bill O'Brien, his former employee. McNair wants his hire-him-and-keep-him Head Coach like Kraft has. He desires that same organizational stability. He knows turnover at the top puts you behind the eight ball.

Yeah! That's what I meant... :bender:

Thorn
12-29-2013, 06:08 PM
I'll be glad when they do hire someone so we can get a jump on b!tching about who is on his staff and his supposed draft picks he hasn't picked yet. After setting all these wonderful turnover records this year, it would be nice to know we are b!tching about our new coach before the other teams fans can. :splits:

JB
12-29-2013, 06:12 PM
I'll be glad when they do hire someone so we can get a jump on b!tching about who is on his staff and his supposed draft picks he hasn't picked yet. After setting all these wonderful turnover records this year, it would be nice to know we are b!tching about our new coach before the other teams fans can. :splits:

:shots:

Texian
12-29-2013, 07:01 PM
What precedent is there for coach/QB combinations moving from college to nfl?

Guess it's hard to quantify the effect really but on the flip side of any positives you are asking two key personnel to transfer their skill set to the pros at once and need them both to succeed.

Don't be surprised to see O'Brien target Ohio QB Tyler Tettleton late in the draft. He's seen him up close after Tettleton marched his team into Happy Valley and knocked off Penn State to start the 2012 season.

Also, don't be shocked if O'Brien targets Nebraska walk-on QB Ray Kellogg as an undrafted Free Agent after he led his Nebraska team to a win in Happy Valley in place of the injured Taylor Martinez late this year.

Hahaha. MSR

I HIGHLY doubt that happens. Texian is reaching pretty hard there.

WF wasn't trying to be silly, he was just using humor to show that even though you weren't trying to be silly, in fact - you were being silly.

The junior, who Penn State coach Bill O’Brien referred to as a pro prospect earlier this week, picked apart the Lions’ secondary from the start, leading the Knights’ 13-play, 89-yard drive with ease to begin the game.

Lions’ defensive coordinator John Butler said Bortles did a great job of neutralizing the Lions’ pass rush — which amassed zero sacks — by not giving the defensive line much time to finish their rushing patterns.

“Quick decision making,” Butler said of Bortles’ best trait. “He was making his decision about where he wanted to throw the ball quickly. He threw it, and the receivers made plays.”

The junior quarterback also found ways to hurt the Lions with the deep ball, targeting an inexperienced secondary group that often came up short in coverage.

With the Knights leading 21-10 in the middle of the third quarter, Bortles felt the pressure on 2nd-and-10 and lofted a high-arching pass right into Josh Reese’s outstretched arms for the touchdown to give the Knights an 18-point lead.

This was one of many instances when Bortles bought time in the pocket before fitting a deep pass into a small area, which is exactly what O'Brien said makes defending him such a difficult task.

“Any time you have a quarterback like that with a strong arm, who’s big and can stand in the pocket and can run, it’s a very difficult challenge,” O’Brien said. “He played a great game tonight. Credit to him. I think he’s a heck of a player.”

Even when Penn State clawed back into the game late in the second half, bringing bursts of energy back into the Beaver Stadium crowd, Bortles answered.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/football/article_df4e21a8-1dba-11e3-bbac-001a4bcf6878.html

texanhead08
12-29-2013, 10:52 PM
I'm always leery when college coaches get mentioned for NFL jobs because a lot of them get cold feet at the last minute because they are only using it to sweeten their contracts at the place they are already working.

I will believe he is coming when he is sitting next to Bob McNair at a press conference.

Txn_in_FL
12-30-2013, 03:09 AM
just saying....

Cleveland? Detroit?

Maybe if you have some sick desire to try and save dumpster fire frachises. Other than money on your contract, I can't see how they would be a better deal than Houston.

Washington?

Dan Snyder as your boss? 'nuff said on that.

houstonspartan
12-30-2013, 03:22 AM
Cleveland? Detroit?

Maybe if you have some sick desire to try and save dumpster fire frachises. Other than money on your contract, I can't see how they would be a better deal than Houston.

Washington?

Dan Snyder as your boss? 'nuff said on that.

Correct. The Texans have one of the best "set up" jobs sports has ever seen. There is a structure and pieces all set up for the next coach. Yes, we have a lot of work to do, but, things are set up very nicely for a new coach coming in.

Detroit has talent, but, I think our front office trumps theirs.

Texian
12-30-2013, 09:16 AM
Cleveland? Detroit?

Maybe if you have some sick desire to try and save dumpster fire frachises. Other than money on your contract, I can't see how they would be a better deal than Houston.

Washington?

Dan Snyder as your boss? 'nuff said on that.

Correct. The Texans have one of the best "set up" jobs sports has ever seen. There is a structure and pieces all set up for the next coach. Yes, we have a lot of work to do, but, things are set up very nicely for a new coach coming in.

Detroit has talent, but, I think our front office trumps theirs.

20 hours a go, I said there would be 4-5 additional NFL HC openings, as of 8AM there are now 3.

Detroit? If they also fire Mayhew full control of the roster is possible and what HC wouldn't want to start out with Stafford, Megatron, the front four that includes Suh and Fairley.

Washington? A HC gets RGIII and possible control

Houston? A HC gets Schaub, Keenum, no RBs, no TEs, no DL, no LBs, poor OL, poor secondary - Oh and they get to answer to Rick Smith...y'all keep fooling yourselves. What flavor is the Kool Aid today? Has this been nuff said?

nero THE zero
12-30-2013, 09:53 AM
20 hours a go, I said there would be 4-5 additional NFL HC openings, as of 8AM there are now 3.

Detroit? If they also fire Mayhew full control of the roster is possible and what HC wouldn't want to start out with Stafford, Megatron, the front four that includes Suh and Fairley.

Washington? A HC gets RGIII and possible control

Houston? A HC gets Schaub, Keenum, no RBs, no TEs, no DL, no LBs, poor OL, poor secondary - Oh and they get to answer to Rick Smith...y'all keep fooling yourselves. What flavor is the Kool Aid today? Has this been nuff said?

You can tell your argument is no good when you have to resort to dishonesty to support it. That's usually when it's best to just not make it. FWIW.

HOU-TEX
12-30-2013, 10:00 AM
What defensive scheme does O'B run?

Let's say O'B lands the gig. Will we have to endure defenses similar to the 1st couple years of Kubiaks tenure before landing a legit DC.

To me, this is almost as important as finding the new HC. I want a bad ass defense.

burro
12-30-2013, 10:07 AM
The FO wanted to interview Whisenhunt, but IIRC they will have to wait until next week at the earliest now that SD is in the playoffs. Any indication that we'll wait?

Playoffs
12-30-2013, 10:09 AM
"O'Brien is represented by an agent who is very tedious in how he works" -- Mortensen.


Only red flag I'm getting on BO'B is he does appear to be prone to losing his temper.

bah007
12-30-2013, 10:11 AM
What defensive scheme does O'B run?

Let's say O'B lands the gig. Will we have to endure defenses similar to the 1st couple years of Kubiaks tenure before landing a legit DC.

To me, this is almost as important as finding the new HC. I want a bad ass defense.

I don't think he's married to any defensive scheme. All of his coaching experience is on the offensive side of the ball.

I think Rick and O'Brien should work together to build the new staff. Rick can choose who is interviewed, they both sit in on the interview, and then Bill makes the final call.

Texian
12-30-2013, 10:28 AM
You can tell your argument is no good when you have to resort to dishonesty to support it. That's usually when it's best to just not make it. FWIW.

Keep drinking the Kool Aid

ObsiWan
12-30-2013, 11:09 AM
I'll be glad when they hire whomever as head coach. Then the process of filling his coaching staff can begin, which can be just as interesting as the HC himself.
Yeah... I want to see who the coordinators will be. Haven't we had enough of a HC trying to call plays and do the head coaching thing. I want a head coach to manage the clock, implement his game plan, use that challenge flag the right way, and make all those other crucial, strategic decisions on Sundays and let his coordinators make defensive and offensive play calls.

We've had quite enough of one guy trying to do two jobs; i.e., HC and offensive coordinator (kubiak) or defensive coordinator (Dom Capers).

PapaL
12-30-2013, 11:21 AM
20 hours a go, I said there would be 4-5 additional NFL HC openings, as of 8AM there are now 3.

You must be a football savant to have called coaches being fired after the season ended. Dazzle us more with your cunning insight. :gun:

Texian
12-30-2013, 11:28 AM
You must be a football savant to have called coaches being fired after the season ended. Dazzle us more with your cunning insight. :gun:

You're probably one of those who live in the dark and don't think anything really happens before someone is fired. My original comment was that teams were doing back channel recon long before they fire their HC. Low and behold the word is now out that is exactly what the Texans did and we're now finding out that Minn and Wash may have been doing exactly the same thing. Who would've have thought it? Not you.....but you're very good at taking comments out of context.

infantrycak
12-30-2013, 11:47 AM
20 hours a go, I said there would be 4-5 additional NFL HC openings, as of 8AM there are now 3.

Hold up everyone. Nostrafreakinobvious is taking a bow.

What defensive scheme does O'B run?

He doesn't like describing any particular scheme. He wants multiple fronts called to counter the anticipated O.

HOU-TEX
12-30-2013, 11:51 AM
Hold up everyone. Nostrafreakinobvious is taking a bow.



He doesn't like describing any particular scheme. He wants multiple fronts called to counter the anticipated O.

So it'd be similar to what the Pats do? I believe they run an inbred 4-3/3-4 type defensive front.

Texian
12-30-2013, 11:57 AM
Hold up everyone. Nostrafreakinobvious is taking a bow.

Thank you, thank you very much. 3 years ago I said Bob needed to dump Kubiak for Jim Harbaugh, 2 years ago I said Bob needed to go all in for RGIII to have an answer to Andrew Luck, 2 years ago I said because of the Texans salary mess the Colts would be Div Champs in 2013 and the Texans would return to the days of their first 5 years. Where were you, drinking the Kool Aid and dreaming of your trip to the Super Bowl that I said would not happen because the Great & Talented Texans team couldn't beat a team over .500 with any regularity. Again, Thank You very Much! :)

Here's one more for you but it doesn't go with your Kool Aid, the Texans will continue to be average & ordinary as long as Rick Smith remains as GM.

infantrycak
12-30-2013, 12:16 PM
So it'd be similar to what the Pats do? I believe they run an inbred 4-3/3-4 type defensive front.

Concept wise, yes on both sides of the ball at least from what he says. The opposite of building a system and enforcing it on every opponent - look at every opponent and attack their weaknesses. Either can work. This will be different. Hopefully he can carry it off if he is the guy.

HOU-TEX
12-30-2013, 12:24 PM
Concept wise, yes on both sides of the ball at least from what he says. The opposite of building a system and enforcing it on every opponent - look at every opponent and attack their weaknesses. Either can work. This will be different. Hopefully he can carry it off if he is the guy.

That'd be nice. I like Wade, but his defense became obviously predictable. He seemed too stubborn to schematically adjust to what teams were doing to his defenses. The Patriots series from last season was the tell-tale for me.

DBCooper
12-30-2013, 12:29 PM
20 hours a go, I said there would be 4-5 additional NFL HC openings, as of 8AM there are now 3.

Detroit? If they also fire Mayhew full control of the roster is possible and what HC wouldn't want to start out with Stafford, Megatron, the front four that includes Suh and Fairley.

Washington? A HC gets RGIII and possible control

Houston? A HC gets Schaub, Keenum, no RBs, no TEs, no DL, no LBs, poor OL, poor secondary - Oh and they get to answer to Rick Smith...y'all keep fooling yourselves. What flavor is the Kool Aid today? Has this been nuff said?

RGIII?

The same RGIII that lit it up this year?

You beat RGIII the same way you beat Vick, the beat down. They barely can finish a season let alone take teams to Super Bowls.

That's why I don't want a Teddy Bear in here.

DBCooper
12-30-2013, 12:29 PM
That'd be nice. I like Wade, but his defense became obviously predictable. He seemed too stubborn to schematically adjust to what teams were doing to his defenses. The Patriots series from last season was the tell-tale for me.

Exactly.

The Pencil Neck
12-30-2013, 12:34 PM
20 hours a go, I said there would be 4-5 additional NFL HC openings, as of 8AM there are now 3.

I hate to point this out but 3-4 weeks ago, everyone knew there were going to be openings in at least 4-5 places. Everyone knew Fasier, Schaino, and Shanahan were out and that Schwartz was on the hot seat. Chudzinski after a year is a minor surprise.

So... why are you acting like you were the only person in the world who thought there would be a bunch of coaches fired on a day that's called Black Monday because there's always a bunch of coaches fired?

Or do you think you're the only person in the whole world who thought the front offices were looking ahead at who their next coach would be? Do you think that was some huge and amazing insight that was unique to you?

The Pencil Neck
12-30-2013, 12:36 PM
RGIII?

The same RGIII that lit it up this year?

You beat RGIII the same way you beat Vick, the beat down. They barely can finish a season let alone take teams to Super Bowls.

That's why I don't want a Teddy Bear in here.

Teddy B is not an RGIII type of player. He's not a runner.

PapaL
12-30-2013, 12:42 PM
You're probably one of those who live in the dark and don't think anything really happens before someone is fired. My original comment was that teams were doing back channel recon long before they fire their HC. Low and behold the word is now out that is exactly what the Texans did and we're now finding out that Minn and Wash may have been doing exactly the same thing. Who would've have thought it? Not you.....but you're very good at taking comments out of context.

Yeah man, you totally knocked that prediction out of the park...well you, ESPN, and anyone else that has watched ANY football at all this year. Don't sprain your elbow patting yourself on the back for that one.

MistaRed
12-30-2013, 12:44 PM
Teddy B is not an RGIII type of player. He's not a runner.

Exactly. Bridgewater is a pass first QB. Only runs when he has to.

thunderkyss
12-30-2013, 01:14 PM
Exactly. Bridgewater is a pass first QB. Only runs when he has to.

Same was said about RG3 before he was started in Washington. Same was said about Wilson before his OL fell apart. Same was said about Keenum... well, it's still said about Keenum because when he needed something different... he had nothing.

ChampionTexan
12-30-2013, 01:32 PM
Same was said about RG3 before he was started in Washington. Same was said about Wilson before his OL fell apart. Same was said about Keenum... well, it's still said about Keenum because when he needed something different... he had nothing.

If it was said about RGIII, it was wrong, as he ran for over 2,200 yards and 33 TD's while at Baylor. Bridgewater on the otherhand has run for 170 yards and 6 TD's in what is essentially the same amount of time at Louisville.

As far as Wilson goes, I'm not sure at exactly what point you consider the OL to have fallen apart, but he had 96 rushing attempts in 2013 and 94 rushing attempts in 2012, so whatever was true before, it appears to have also been true after.

paycheck71
12-30-2013, 01:40 PM
Looks like the Browns are out on BO'B

@RapSheet: #Browns CEO Joe Banner rules out candidates who interviewed last year. No R Horton, B O’Brien, M Zimmer, Whisenhunt

WolverineFan
12-30-2013, 01:47 PM
Same was said about RG3 before he was started in Washington. Same was said about Wilson before his OL fell apart.

Completely different. Griffin ran the ball 501 times in his 3 healthy years at Baylor (167 per year). Wilson ran the ball 441 times in 4 years at NC State/Wisconsin (110 per year). Bridgewater has run 226 times in 3 years at Louisville (75 per year). Bridgewater and Wilson ran only when they had to. Griffin ran after he got through a certain amount of reads.

Bridgewater and Wilson are both athletic, but they rely on their arm to move the ball. Just because they can scramble doesn't change that. Griffin relies on his legs just as much as his arm. Look at how poorly he played this year with limited mobility. Forced passes he shouldn't have thrown because he's used to being able to scramble when nothing is there.

DBCooper
12-30-2013, 01:58 PM
Teddy B is not an RGIII type of player. He's not a runner.

That's good to know, man.

I have tons of tape to watch this offseason so I can have a clue on what I want in this draft.

TXAg14
12-30-2013, 02:44 PM
Looks like the Browns are out on BO'B

Who would honestly want to go to the Browns and be a head coach? Years of below average football, and now after one year the head coach is fired. Didn't even keep his job for a full 365 days. Says a lot about the front office.

Playoffs
12-30-2013, 02:53 PM
If it was said about RGIII, it was wrong, as he ran for over 2,200 yards and 33 TD's while at Baylor. Bridgewater on the otherhand has run for 170 yards and 6 TD's in what is essentially the same amount of time at Louisville.

As far as Wilson goes, I'm not sure at exactly what point you consider the OL to have fallen apart, but he had 96 rushing attempts in 2013 and 94 rushing attempts in 2012, so whatever was true before, it appears to have also been true after.
^This.

RG3 was at the top nationally in 100, 300, 400 hurdles and one of the fastest long speed guys on the field until his injury.

Endcoachment
12-30-2013, 03:05 PM
The hate for Teddy Bridgewater is unfounded considering we don't need book end tackles or bad character guys at #1.

Playoffs
12-30-2013, 03:08 PM
"Houston Texans either have a deal done or virtually done with Bill O'Brien" -- Chris Mortensen

"O'Brien is headed to the NFL, just a matter of timing" -- Adam Schefter

"The fact that Rick Smith is on the road scouting players speaks to the deal with O'Brien being done." -- Billy Devaney

The Third Man
12-30-2013, 03:08 PM
Teddy B is not an RGIII type of player. He's not a runner.

They must have *something* in common...hmmm...

Lucky
12-30-2013, 03:12 PM
Who would honestly want to go to the Browns and be a head coach? Years of below average football, and now after one year the head coach is fired. Didn't even keep his job for a full 365 days. Says a lot about the front office.

Not to mention the owner's impending federal indictment. Yeah, the Browns are a mess.

Lucky
12-30-2013, 03:13 PM
They must have *something* in common...hmmm...

They're both right handed?

HOU-TEX
12-30-2013, 03:13 PM
The hate for Teddy Bridgewater is unfounded considering we don't need book end tackles or bad character guys at #1.

I'd take the top OT ahead of Bridgewater in a heart beat, but that's just me I reckon

Hervoyel
12-30-2013, 03:21 PM
The hate for Teddy Bridgewater is unfounded considering we don't need book end tackles or bad character guys at #1.

I don't hate him. I got not one ounce of hate for the man. I'll get behind him if we draft him 1-1 and hope every day that I was wrong in thinking that he was not the way to go.

Every year I get behind players the Texans take that I wasn't fired up about and this case is no different. I just don't think he's going to be the kind of success at this level that we are hoping for or that his fans are predicting. I'm not worried though. By the time the draft gets here a lot can happen.

It ain't just you HOU-TEX.

TexansFight
12-30-2013, 03:26 PM
looks like the browns are out on bo'b

excellent news!

Texian
12-30-2013, 03:57 PM
Not to mention the owner's impending federal indictment. Yeah, the Browns are a mess.

Looks like the Browns are out on BO'B

excellent news!

It was the Browns last year who said no thanks to Obrien and said he would not be interviewed this year. According to reports the O'Brien interview was "Rocky".

Thorn
12-30-2013, 04:00 PM
Is it Tuesday yet? Do we have a coach?

FirstTexansFan
12-30-2013, 04:01 PM
Put down the bottle of Metamucil Thorn... you've OD'd again :)

TexansFight
12-30-2013, 04:02 PM
It was the Browns last year who said no thanks to Obrien and said he would not be interviewed this year. According to reports the O'Brien interview was "Rocky".

Texian I respect your opinions, especially your suggestions on replacements for GM with respect to Rick Smith. Who is your number 1 choice for coach for the Texans?

Thorn
12-30-2013, 04:04 PM
Put down the bottle of Metamucil Thorn... you've OD'd again :)

How does one OD on a fiber supplement? Eat a tree branch?

FirstTexansFan
12-30-2013, 04:06 PM
We can't eat tree branches, dentures won't hold up :)

The Pencil Neck
12-30-2013, 04:22 PM
How does one OD on a fiber supplement? Eat a tree branch?

When it starts backing up into your mouth, you've OD'd on fiber supplements.

Don't ask me how I know this...

But at least I'm regular.

Playoffs
12-30-2013, 04:27 PM
Is it Tuesday yet? Do we have a coach?

Yes!

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
#Texans are not planning on interviewing #Chargers OC Ken Whisenhunt, per source, now that his team in the playoffs. O’Brien’s job to win.

Texian
12-30-2013, 04:44 PM
Texian I respect your opinions, especially your suggestions on replacements for GM with respect to Rick Smith. Who is your number 1 choice for coach for the Texans?

Thanks for asking, my #1 was David Shaw but it is clear he has already told the Texans no thanks as the Texans have moved on from that name. #2 is Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo's teams play like Shaw and Saban's teams, very physical and well prepared in all 3 phases of the game. Reminds me of Jimmy Johnson. #3 Darrell Bevell OC of Seattle Seahawks, he's responsible for not only drafting but starting Russell Wilson. #4 Dan Quinn, DC Seattle Seahawks, runs the best D in the NFL.

O'Brien has really done nothing that says excellence or knows how to WIN. Now there are stories surfacing that O'Brien is not really a people person and doesn't really get along well with folks. There is another question in why is Penn St making it easier for him to leave and why does Penn St appear all to happy to sign Greg Schiano before O'Brien has packed his office? Just a few questions that question O'Brien's excellence.

TexansFight
12-30-2013, 05:27 PM
Thanks for asking, my #1 was David Shaw but it is clear he has already told the Texans no thanks as the Texans have moved on from that name. #2 is Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo's teams play like Shaw and Saban's teams, very physical and well prepared in all 3 phases of the game. Reminds me of Jimmy Johnson. #3 Darrell Bevell OC of Seattle Seahawks, he's responsible for not only drafting but starting Russell Wilson. #4 Dan Quinn, DC Seattle Seahawks, runs the best D in the NFL.

O'Brien has really done nothing that says excellence or knows how to WIN. Now there are stories surfacing that O'Brien is not really a people person and doesn't really get along well with folks. There is another question in why is Penn St making it easier for him to leave and why does Penn St appear all to happy to sign Greg Schiano before O'Brien has packed his office? Just a few questions that question O'Brien's excellence.

Shaw would be an execellent choice that I would be very happy with but he doesn't appear to be going anywhere. Jimbo Fisher supposedly is #1 or # 2 on UT's short list. I'm a Texas alum so I am hoping they make a quality hire. I'd like Bevell as well. Don't know much about Quinn but he appears to be a hot commodity and on top of the Browns list.

The reason I am a big BO'B guy are (1) he gets a lot out of his QBs not just Brady, McGloin and the freshman he had this year were very good, (2) utilizes up tempo offense seeking matchup advantages (basically the anti-Kubiak) and (3) fiery guy who demands accountability.

thunderkyss
12-30-2013, 05:34 PM
Thanks for asking, my #1 was David Shaw but it is clear he has already told the Texans no thanks as the Texans have moved on from that name. #2 is Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo's teams play like Shaw and Saban's teams, very physical and well prepared in all 3 phases of the game. Reminds me of Jimmy Johnson. #3 Darrell Bevell OC of Seattle Seahawks, he's responsible for not only drafting but starting Russell Wilson. #4 Dan Quinn, DC Seattle Seahawks, runs the best D in the NFL.


Good list. Most don't fit Bob's criteria. You've supplied sound reasoning for them as well. Bob had his criteria & his reasoning is just as sound.

Like you, it upsets me when the people who actually make the decisions don't "reason" the same way I do. I'm sure you're going to tell us, "I told you so." at the end of the year.

The1ApplePie
12-30-2013, 06:13 PM
O'Brien just seems to be full of meh.

Kind of like USC's recent hire. Not bad, but not anything particularly inspiring. Kind of feel the team could do better, but it could certainly do worse.

I was on the Mike Zimmer bandwagon. Either he would be awesome or terrible, but it would be entertaining either way.

thunderkyss
12-30-2013, 06:23 PM
I was on the Mike Zimmer bandwagon. Either he would be awesome or terrible, but it would be entertaining either way.

I liked Zimmer as well, originally. Then after much consideration I wouldn't have felt comfortable with McNair hiring the one guy that's been turned down by so many organizations.

Their's got to be a reason.

Trap_Star
12-30-2013, 06:28 PM
I liked Zimmer as well, originally. Then after much consideration I wouldn't have felt comfortable with McNair hiring the one guy that's been turned down by so many organizations.

Their's got to be a reason.

word is he doesn't interview very well i.e. he doesn't kiss ass.

Texian
12-30-2013, 07:18 PM
Shaw would be an execellent choice that I would be very happy with but he doesn't appear to be going anywhere. Jimbo Fisher supposedly is #1 or # 2 on UT's short list. I'm a Texas alum so I am hoping they make a quality hire. I'd like Bevell as well. Don't know much about Quinn but he appears to be a hot commodity and on top of the Browns list.

The reason I am a big BO'B guy are (1) he gets a lot out of his QBs not just Brady, McGloin and the freshman he had this year were very good, (2) utilizes up tempo offense seeking matchup advantages (basically the anti-Kubiak) and (3) fiery guy who demands accountability.

Longhorns would be lucky to get Jimbo, my gut says he's their #1 guy and he's now my #1 guy for Texans. I almost want Jimbo as much as wanted Harbaugh in 2010.

DBCooper
12-30-2013, 07:29 PM
Good list. Most don't fit Bob's criteria. You've supplied sound reasoning for them as well. Bob had his criteria & his reasoning is just as sound.

Like you, it upsets me when the people who actually make the decisions don't "reason" the same way I do. I'm sure you're going to tell us, "I told you so." at the end of the year.

Way before the end of the year.

Thorn
12-31-2013, 11:35 AM
OK, it's Tuesday. Where's our new head coach?

HOU-TEX
12-31-2013, 11:39 AM
OK, it's Tuesday. Where's our new head coach?

We're hiring 16 of them. One for each game in 2014. Whoever does the best get's the permanent job

ChampionTexan
12-31-2013, 11:43 AM
We're hiring 16 of them. One for each game in 2014. Whoever does the best get's the permanent job

Nah, have all of them do it collaboratively, and just eliminate one each week ala American Idol. NFLN can air the elimination show on Tuesday night, with the nation voting by phone, and ultimately choosing our next HC.

Needless to say, this would necessitate a regular season version of Hard Knocks to be aired daily.

HOU-TEX
12-31-2013, 11:51 AM
Nah, have all of them do it collaboratively, and just eliminate one each week ala American Idol. NFLN can air the elimination show on Tuesday night, with the nation voting by phone, and ultimately choosing our next HC.

Needless to say, this would necessitate a regular season version of Hard Knocks to be aired daily.

Sounds even better

Big Lou
12-31-2013, 12:04 PM
When it starts backing up into your mouth, you've OD'd on fiber supplements.

Don't ask me how I know this...

But at least I'm regular.

A bit off topic, but I love me some Metamucil! If you don't take it, you don't know what you are missing!!!!!!

Playoffs
12-31-2013, 12:09 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

5-star DT Thomas Holley says #PSU coach Bill O’Brien told him O’Brien “isn’t going” to Texans http://pennstate.247sports.com/Artic...staying-168244 … We’ll see if this holdsPSU high school recruit retracts earlier statement... (http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2013/12/thomas_holley_remains_committe.html)

Holley reached out to O’Brien on Saturday, but Sunday afternoon the player said the coach did not tell him for sure that he’d return to Penn State.

“He just gave me an idea of what to look for next year and said possibly he’s returning but I don’t know what’s going to happen,” Holley said. “It wasn’t a guarantee, but he said it’s possible but I don’t know what’s going to happen. I’m kind of sitting back waiting to see what happens. If he does leave I’ll wait to get to that bridge and cross it then.”

pirbroke
12-31-2013, 12:23 PM
OK, it's Tuesday. Where's our new head coach?


Did they say which Tuesday? 😒

cuppacoffee
12-31-2013, 12:33 PM
OK, it's Tuesday. Where's our new head coach?

As a youngster I imagine you had a rough time waiting for Santa.

:coffee:

badboy
12-31-2013, 12:35 PM
Is it Tuesday yet? Do we have a coach?

A source told me he was seen at a bank with a U Haul truck and wheelbarrow.

The Pencil Neck
12-31-2013, 01:30 PM
A bit off topic, but I love me some Metamucil! If you don't take it, you don't know what you are missing!!!!!!

Just don't take too much. That's all I'm saying.

FirstTexansFan
12-31-2013, 01:32 PM
A bit off topic, but I love me some Metamucil! If you don't take it, you don't know what you are missing!!!!!!

We're gonna need to keep an eye on you.... stand back folks, this could turn into a crappy situation! :cow:

b0ng
12-31-2013, 02:00 PM
I'll be fairly shocked if the Texans announce any HC hire today.

Sigma
12-31-2013, 02:03 PM
I'll be fairly shocked if the Texans announce any HC hire today.

they said the new HC will be hired by today


but they didn't said when they will tell people who he is :)

Brandon420tx
12-31-2013, 02:11 PM
Did they say which Tuesday? 😒

This man gets how to play the game

b0ng
12-31-2013, 02:22 PM
they said the new HC will be hired by today


but they didn't said when they will tell people who he is :)

They might've even said a head coach would be hired, not that it would be the HC for the 2014 season. Maybe it's a 2013 only HC today.

Playoffs
12-31-2013, 02:42 PM
Is it Tuesday yet? Do we have a coach?

Yes and yes.

http://sitracking.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/bill-obrien.jpg
http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2013/1229/dm_131229_nfl_schefter_on_obrien/dm_131229_nfl_schefter_on_obrien.jpg
http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/college/img24389769.jpg
http://www.post-gazette.com/image/2013/11/27/420x_q90_cMC_z_ca35,0,388,236/Penn-State-head-coach-Bill-O-Brien-2.jpg
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/cedc042c6b83769bd37f6fb962eaf397227d1938/c=0-129-1937-2700&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/12/28//1388290976000-USATSI-7568682.jpg
http://nittanylionsden.com/images/stories/bill_obrien_new_england_patriots.jpg
http://sitracking.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/bill-obrien-texans.jpg