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Playoffs
12-13-2013, 02:06 PM
Rob Rang's Big Board (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board)

1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-6, 268, 4.65)*: There is no denying that by registering only three sacks (and zero forced fumbles) in the 2013 regular season, Clowney has failed to live up to expectations. He also enflamed concerns about his maturity with a Dec. 7 speeding ticket in which he was clocked at 110 mph. Clowney's red flags are real, but so is his talent. In 13 years of grading prospects for the NFL Draft, Clowney competes only with former No. 2 overall pick Julius Peppers (2002) as the most gifted I've ever seen.

2. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-3, 220, 4.65)*: In an era in which college quarterbacks' numbers are often inflated by short passes and relatively simplistic schemes, Bridgewater's sparkling production is due to Pro Bowl-caliber accuracy. His success (70.2 percent completion rate with 28 touchdowns against four interceptions) comes out of a pro-style offense that forces him to make tough throws. Bridgewater's slight frame and level of competition are concerns. Bridgewater's poise will be tested in the Florida Citrus Bowl on Dec. 28; he'll be facing his hometown Miami Hurricanes in the game most believe will be his last at the collegiate level.

3. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-4, 238, 4.73): A running back until last season, Barr has emerged as one of the elite prospects in the country and is my top-rated senior at any position. A powerful and fluid athlete at his best rushing off the edge, Barr was named the 2013 recipient of the LOTT Impact Award with 62 tackles, 20 tackles for loss, 10 sacks and five forced fumbles during the regular season.

4. QB Derek Carr, Fresno State (6-3, 215, 4.78): Carr's staggering production (70.1 completion percentage, 48 TDs, seven INTs) is certainly inflated by head coach Tim DeRuyter's QB-friendly spread attack and legitimately talented receiving corps, but there is no denying his talent. His release and velocity are as impressive as any college quarterback in the country. Back in 2002, his older brother David sealed up the No. 1 overall pick with a dominant performance at the Senior Bowl. It isn't out of the question that Derek could match the feat 12 years later.

5. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 305, 5.14: The son of Hall of Famer Bruce Matthews, Jake proves the cliché true -- the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. He has played well at left tackle this season after starring at right tackle during his first three years. Matthews is a terrific football player, demonstrating impressive technique, strength and consistency. He is not, however, an elite athlete and some view his future back on the right side in the NFL.

6. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 200, 4.49)*

7. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State (5-11, 197, 4.52): Quick feet, loose hips and a fluid turning motion make Dennard a classic cover corner capable of shutting down half the field. His ability in coverage played a huge role in the Spartans' run to the Big Ten Championship, as was recognized with Dennard winning the Thorpe Award as the nation's elite defensive back.

8. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 312, 5.12)*: -- Nick Saban questioned draft analysts for pegging Kouandjio as a first-round talent before the season, but given the junior left tackle's exciting skill set, the projection has been an easy one. Athletic and aggressive, Kouandjio could overtake some of the other top tackles in this class should he elect to enter the draft a year early.

9. OT Cameron Erving, Florida State (6-5, 310, 5.26)*: Erving played in 13 games as a redshirt freshman defensive tackle, but looked like a natural when moved to left tackle a season ago, though he remains a bit inconsistent. Long, balanced and athletic, he's a hidden factor in the dynamic play of freshman quarterback Jameis Winston and could enjoy a "quiet" ride into the top 10 of the 2014 draft just as former Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel did a year ago while blocking for Heisman winner Johnny Manziel.

10. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 232, 4.56): While a bit undersized, Mosley might be the best pound-for-pound player in the country. Athletic and instinctive, he is a true three-down linebacker capable of making plays against the run and pass. Mosley lacks the bulk scouts want in a pass rusher but his awareness in coverage is special.

11. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo (6-3, 248, 4.66): With a record-tying 75 career tackles for loss, Mack's statistics jump off the page. Against the most gifted opponents he faced this year (Ohio State, Connecticut), it was his game that jumped off the screen. His size, instincts and agility as an edge rusher make him equally intriguing to teams operating out of a 4-3 or 3-4 alignment.

12. OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M (6-5, 300, 5.15)*

13. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (6-5, 225, 4.58)*: Like his famous quarterback Johnny Manziel, Evans is only a redshirt sophomore, but he has a big decision to make after dominating the SEC most of the season. Deceptively fast and possessing great body control as well as timing, Evans is an exciting split end prospect who reminds scouts of Tampa Bay Buccaneers star Vincent Jackson. Of concern, however, is the fact that Evans struggled in his final two regular-season games, catching only eight passes for a combined 59 yards in losses to LSU and Missouri.

14. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 245, 4.67)*

15. CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Oregon (5-10, 190, 4.52)*: Lost in the hype of Oregon's offense are a number of highly regarded defenders, including Ekpre-Olomu, who combines great instincts, agility and physicality to shut down his side of the field. Ekpre-Olomu's toughness on the perimeter played a significant role in Oregon's victory against Oregon State in the Civil War; he posted 12 tackles (all solos), deflected three passes and intercepted another while helping to limit Beavers star WR Brandin Cooks.

16. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 310, 5.04): Possessing an impressive combination of size, strength and toughness, Lewan has earned comparisons to former Michigan standout Jake Long throughout his career with the Wolverines. He certainly looked the part against Ohio State, dominating the action up front.

17. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 303, 4.89)*

18. DE Trent Murphy, Stanford (6-6, 261, 4.85)

19. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech (6-5, 260, 4.67)*

20. OT Greg Robinson, Auburn* (6-5, 320, 5.38): Redshirt offensive linemen rarely earn more than a whisper in scouting circles, but the buzz generating around the Tigers' star left tackle is venturing into deafening. Physical and tenacious, Robinson is a grizzly bear in the running game, mauling opponents with an exciting blend of size (6-5, 320 pounds), strength and athleticism. Auburn's reliance on the running game, however, has given Robinson few opportunities in pass protection, making him a bit of a boom-or-bust prospect at this early point.

21. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 195, 4.51)*

22. OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor (6-5, 335, 5.27): A dominating drive blocker who projects best at guard but spent the entire 2011 season protecting Robert Griffin III at left tackle, Richardson is massive, powerful and shockingly athletic. Richardson was recognized with the Jim Parker Award as the nation's top blocker and headlines a strong class of interior linemen.

23. OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas (6-4, 318, 5.26)

24. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-2, 226, 4.58)*: Shazier might be 10-15 pounds lighter than scouts would prefer, but his instincts, speed and bone-jarring hits make him a fearful defender that offenses must account for on every snap. No one played better for the Buckeyes against Michigan State in the Big Ten title game than Shazier, who recorded 12 tackles, two pass breakups and a blocked punt against the Spartans.

25. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (5-11, 210, 4.45)*: Manziel's vision, elusiveness and accuracy while on the move make him a mesmerizing prospect, but red flags were raised with mediocre performances against LSU and Missouri to end the regular season. Bottled in the pocket by both, Manziel was unable to throw his receivers open and he struggled. The NFL rule books have never been more accommodating to dual-threat passers, but consistent accuracy from the pocket remains the most critical element to quarterback play at the next level.

26. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State (6-0, 200, 4.52)

27. QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida* (6-3, 230, 4.78): A prototypically built pocket passer with good awareness and anticipation, Bortles looks the part of an NFL starting quarterback. Should he star in UCF's Fiesta Bowl showdown with the explosive Baylor Bears, the junior could have a tough time ignoring the NFL buzz his play is building.

28. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State* (5-10, 186, 4.52)

29. DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 311, 4.95)

30. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-10, 182, 4.49)

31. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington* (6-6, 276, 4.75)

32. OG David Yankey, Stanford* (6-5, 314, 5.08)

Just missed the cut:

DT Will Sutton, Arizona State
OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson*
CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State*
RB Ka'Deem Carey, Arizona*
ILB Shayne Skov, Stanford
WR Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt
QB Brett Hundley, UCLA*
WR Allen Robinson, Penn State*
FS Hasean Clinton-Dix, Alabama*
OT La'el Collins, LSU*
OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA*
DE/OLB Trevor Reilly, Utah
DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
DT Ego Ferguson, LSU*
OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU

badboy
12-13-2013, 11:42 PM
A bit surprised he has Ogbuehi that high. I like him but in second and would be stunned if changes his mind and declares.

Playoffs
01-16-2014, 09:12 PM
Rob Rang ‏@RobRang
Asked to grade the talent of last year's draft, I gave it a 5 out of 10. This year? A strong 8. Here's why: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/24411000/big-board-underclassmen-especially-qbs-make-draft-class-deep

1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-6, 268, 4.65)*: There is no denying that Clowney failed to live up to expectations statistically-speaking. He also inflamed concerns about his maturity with two speeding tickets before the Gamecocks' bowl game. Clowney's red flags are real, but so is his talent. Imposing, explosive and more technically sound than many realize, Clowney competes only with former No. 2 overall pick Julius Peppers (2002) as the most gifted defensive end prospect I have ever seen.

2. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 305, 5.14)

3. OT Greg Robinson, Auburn* (6-5, 320, 5.38)

4. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-3, 220, 4.65)*: In an era in which college quarterbacks' numbers are often inflated by short passes and relatively simplistic schemes, Bridgewater's sparkling production is due to Pro Bowl-caliber accuracy. His success (71 percent completion rate with 31 touchdowns against just four interceptions) comes out of a pro-style offense that requires him to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage and complete NFL throws. Those traits make Bridgewater an ideal fit in new Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien's offense, making him the favorite to be the No. 1 overall pick of the 2014 draft.

5. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 200, 4.49)

6. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-4, 238, 4.73)

7. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo (6-3, 248, 4.66)

8. QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida* (6-3, 230, 4.78): A prototypically-built pocket passer with good awareness, athleticism and arm talent, Bortles looks the part of an NFL starting quarterback. He is methodical in his set-up and delivery of the ball and is a bit inconsistent with his accuracy, but the mettle he showed in guiding UCF to several comeback victories in 2013 has scouts buzzing. Bortles isn't as polished as Bridgewater, but he may possess an even higher upside. A top 10 pick is likely and it isn't out of the question that he'll rank as the best quarterback for some, potentially including new Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien, whose Penn State team was beaten by UCF in 2013.

9. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 232, 4.56)

10. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 195, 4.51)

11. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State (5-11, 197, 4.52)

12. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 245, 4.67)

13. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (5-11, 210, 4.45): Manziel's vision, elusiveness and accuracy while on the move make him a mesmerizing prospect who will almost surely be drafted earlier than I rank him. While dynamic throughout his career - including in the Aggies' thrilling comeback over Duke in the Chick-fil-A Bowl -- red flags were raised with mediocre performances against LSU and Missouri to end the regular season. Bottled in the pocket by both, Manziel was unable to throw his receivers open and he struggled. The NFL rule books have never been more accommodating to dual-threat passers, but consistent accuracy from the pocket remains the most critical element to quarterback play at the next level.

14. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (6-5, 225, 4.58)

15. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 312, 5.12)

16. QB Derek Carr, Fresno State (6-3, 215, 4.78)

17. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 310, 5.04)

18. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech (6-5, 260, 4.67)

19. DE Kony Ealy, Missouri (6-5, 275, 4.77)

20. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 303, 4.89)

21. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-2, 226, 4.58)

22. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State (5-10, 186, 4.52)

23. DE Trent Murphy, Stanford (6-6, 261, 4.85)

24. DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 311, 4.95)

25. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-10, 182, 4.49)

26. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State (6-0, 200, 4.52)

27. OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor (6-5, 335, 5.27)

28. FS Calvin Pryor, Louisville (6-2, 208, 4.55)

29. OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas (6-4, 318, 5.26)

30. OG David Yankey, Stanford (6-5, 314, 5.08)

31. DE Scott Crichton, Oregon State (6-3, 265, 4.73)

32. OL Zach Martin, Notre Dame (6-4, 308, 5.15)


Just missed the cut:
DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State*
RB Ka'Deem Carey, Arizona*
DT William Sutton, Arizona State
CB Marcus Roberson, Florida*
CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State*
WR Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington*
FS HaSean Clinton-Dix, Alabama*
ILB Yawin Smallwood, Connecticut*
WR Allen Robinson, Penn State*
OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA*
DE/OLB Trevor Reilly, Utah
WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State*
DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU

mussop
01-16-2014, 09:20 PM
Rang is a wang. Never liked him much.

thunderkyss
01-16-2014, 10:04 PM
Rob Rang ‏@RobRang

I don't understand how he can write that about TB, then list him as the 4th best player in this draft. Not even the Julius Peppers himself is a better player/prospect than a QB with "ProBowl" accuracy coming from a pro-style offense.

TexansFTW
01-17-2014, 07:55 AM
I don't understand how he can write that about TB, then list him as the 4th best player in this draft. Not even the Julius Peppers himself is a better player/prospect than a QB with "ProBowl" accuracy coming from a pro-style offense.

I've noticed there are about 3-5 scouts/scouting websites that make a stand and evaluate players, then there is everyone else that just copies those 3-5 and modifies the work they've done to make it "theirs".

He probably thinks TB should be #1 overall, but sees the better scouts not doing so, so he follows suit. He's a follower, not a leader.

Mike Mayock all day! NFL Network better not have that guy doing anything but draft prepping.

Texian
01-17-2014, 08:08 AM
I've noticed there are about 3-5 scouts/scouting websites that make a stand and evaluate players, then there is everyone else that just copies those 3-5 and modifies the work they've done to make it "theirs".

He probably thinks TB should be #1 overall, but sees the better scouts not doing so, so he follows suit. He's a follower, not a leader.

Mike Mayock all day! NFL Network better not have that guy doing anything but draft prepping.

Rob Rang is one of the older more reliable evaluators and his website nfldraftscout.com is one of the absolute best. It is a leader in the field not a follower. I do miss Chad Reuter since he left for nfl,com and Dane Brugler is really a novice learning the trade much like McShay. I take his write ups with a grain of salt. I agree with you about Mayock, son of a football coach and he played at every level. You just can't beat that kind of knowledge and experience.

I don't understand how he can write that about TB, then list him as the 4th best player in this draft. Not even the Julius Peppers himself is a better player/prospect than a QB with "ProBowl" accuracy coming from a pro-style offense.

Maybe because he doesn't have a BIAS and is OBJECTIVE in his analysis. That's how he makes his living, he doesn't fall in love with players.

thunderkyss
01-17-2014, 08:23 AM
Maybe because he doesn't have a BIAS and is OBJECTIVE in his analysis. That's how he makes his living, he doesn't fall in love with players.

Bias & falling in love with players has nothing to do with it.

If he says Bridgewater played well in a pro system, making adjustments at the line, his production was not a result of gimmicky offense, or YAC, & he has ProBowl-caliber accuracy, how do you rate that behind a talented player who he says had an off year?

Texian
01-17-2014, 09:21 AM
Bias & falling in love with players has nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with it and the primary reasons for being correct in an assessment instead of being wrong. You're just upset because Rang did not say, what you wanted to hear.

Mr teX
01-17-2014, 10:00 AM
Manziel falling to #25 is probably the best thing for him b/c it's gonna give him the best chance to succeed as he'll likely be sitting his 1st year....& though he's probably mentally ready, it's likely the best thing for TB as well.

matts290
01-17-2014, 10:16 AM
Manziel falling to #25 is probably the best thing for him b/c it's gonna give him the best chance to succeed as he'll likely be sitting his 1st year....& though he's probably mentally ready, it's likely the best thing for TB as well.

The OP is 4 weeks old, I think we see Manziel trending up from here on out on everyones boards, that Duke game really made an impression on a lot of people.

mussop
01-17-2014, 12:43 PM
Rob Rang is one of the older more reliable evaluators and his website nfldraftscout.com is one of the absolute best. It is a leader in the field not a follower.

This explains a lot. :brando:

thunderkyss
01-17-2014, 01:30 PM
It has everything to do with it and the primary reasons for being correct in an assessment instead of being wrong. You're just upset because Rang did not say, what you wanted to hear.

I definitely don't want to hear that Bridgewater is the best talent in this class. I don't want to hear that he's a top 5 or even top 10 talent in this class. I'm not in love with Teddy Bridgewater.

I'm not in love with Jadaveon Clowney.

I do not understand how
1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-6, 268, 4.65)*: There is no denying that Clowney failed to live up to expectations statistically-speaking. He also inflamed concerns about his maturity with two speeding tickets before the Gamecocks' bowl game. Clowney's red flags are real, but so is his talent. Imposing, explosive and more technically sound than many realize, Clowney competes only with former No. 2 overall pick Julius Peppers (2002) as the most gifted defensive end prospect I have ever seen.

trumps
4. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-3, 220, 4.65)*: In an era in which college quarterbacks' numbers are often inflated by short passes and relatively simplistic schemes, Bridgewater's sparkling production is due to Pro Bowl-caliber accuracy. His success (71 percent completion rate with 31 touchdowns against just four interceptions) comes out of a pro-style offense that requires him to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage and complete NFL throws. Those traits make Bridgewater an ideal fit in new Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien's offense, making him the favorite to be the No. 1 overall pick of the 2014 draft.

Let's say you have an average team, across the board, average & you can add one more player. Are you going to take a pro-bowl QB, or a pro-bowl DE? Are you going to take an All-Pro QB, or an All-Pro DE?

Most of his description of Clowney is negative. Most of his description of Bridgewater is positive... but TB is not even the runner up to Clowney.

disaacks3
01-17-2014, 01:48 PM
Rob Rang is one of the older more reliable evaluators and his website nfldraftscout.com is one of the absolute best. It is a leader in the field not a follower. I do miss Chad Reuter since he left for nfl,com and Dane Brugler is really a novice learning the trade much like McShay. I take his write ups with a grain of salt. I agree with you about Mayock, son of a football coach and he played at every level. You just can't beat that kind of knowledge and experience.



Maybe because he doesn't have a BIAS and is OBJECTIVE in his analysis. That's how he makes his living, he doesn't fall in love with players.

Honest question - He's a reliable evaluator of what exactly? Where folks are going to get drafted?

Examples: Carr falls from #4 to #16. Manziel jumps from #25 to #13.

If he's a judge of actual "talent", then why the huge moves in 4 weeks? Their abilities didn't radically change.

Dutchrudder
01-17-2014, 01:58 PM
Honest question - He's a reliable evaluator of what exactly? Where folks are going to get drafted?

Examples: Carr falls from #4 to #16. Manziel jumps from #25 to #13.

If he's a judge of actual "talent", then why the huge moves in 4 weeks? Their abilities didn't radically change.

Cause if you keep your guys in the same place until the combine, nobody will read your columns. It's a business, and to stay in business, people need something new to read.

Texian
01-17-2014, 03:40 PM
Honest question - He's a reliable evaluator of what exactly? Where folks are going to get drafted?

Examples: Carr falls from #4 to #16. Manziel jumps from #25 to #13.

If he's a judge of actual "talent", then why the huge moves in 4 weeks? Their abilities didn't radically change.

Rang and nfldraftscout.com does a pre season rankings and then after the season, bowl games and underclassman deadline after they know all players participating in the draft they reconfigure their rankings. Personally I think they do a good job of ranking players by position. Mock drafts are kind of a crap shoot but the public demands it. Mayock hates mocks but does one right before the draft.

TexansFTW
01-17-2014, 04:22 PM
Rang and nfldraftscout.com does a pre season rankings and then after the season, bowl games and underclassman deadline after they know all players participating in the draft they reconfigure their rankings. Personally I think they do a good job of ranking players by position. Mock drafts are kind of a crap shoot but the public demands it. Mayock hates mocks but does one right before the draft.

That Michael Irvin ruined last year, lol.

Playoffs
01-17-2014, 05:35 PM
I don't understand how he can write that about TB, then list him as the 4th best player in this draft. Not even the Julius Peppers himself is a better player/prospect than a QB with "ProBowl" accuracy coming from a pro-style offense.

Every QB in the NFL runs a pro-style offense. In 2011 Alex Smith was #2 in Accuracy Percentage.* In 2012, Pro Bowler Matt Schaub was 8th in Accuracy Percentage. Pro Bowlers Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan were #1 & #2 in 2013... You wouldn't trade a Geno Smith or a Von Miller for one of those guys, would you? I wouldn't.

Julius Peppers projects into the top of his position group. Bridgewater doesn't project into the top 10 of his position group.

*PFF's (http://www.profootballfocus.com/) "Accuracy Percentage" accounts for dropped passes, throw aways, spiked balls, batted passes, and passes where the quarterback was hit while they threw the ball - factors that hurt the quarterback's completion percentage but don't help show how accurate they are.

So getting to Clowney, the dude is a freak and flashed that last year. He may freak or he may bust in the NFL -- but if he freaks, his upside is big.

Examples: Carr falls from #4 to #16. Manziel jumps from #25 to #13.

If he's a judge of actual "talent", then why the huge moves in 4 weeks? Their abilities didn't radically change.12 spots is not that big of a move in the bigger picture. Like Earl Thomas to Jimmy Graham. Or Ray Rice to Duane Brown. Or Luke Kuechly to TY Hilton.

Lucky
01-18-2014, 12:14 AM
If he's a judge of actual "talent", then why the huge moves in 4 weeks? Their abilities didn't radically change.
All of the internet draft gurus do that (Mayock included). The more informed ones are listening to scouts and agents. None of these guys base their rankings strictly off their own film evaluation.

Marshall
01-18-2014, 02:39 AM
I definitely don't want to hear that Bridgewater is the best talent in this class. I don't want to hear that he's a top 5 or even top 10 talent in this class. I'm not in love with Teddy Bridgewater.

I'm not in love with Jadaveon Clowney.

I do not understand how


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Let's say you have an average team, across the board, average & you can add one more player. Are you going to take a pro-bowl QB, or a pro-bowl DE? Are you going to take an All-Pro QB, or an All-Pro DE?

Most of his description of Clowney is negative. Most of his description of Bridgewater is positive... but TB is not even the runner up to Clowney.

It's the trade off between a player playing at the peak of his talent and one who is under performing, but with loads of untapped potential. Both are risks at the next level, but one has the potential to improve more than the other.

Texian
01-18-2014, 08:20 AM
The biggest change in position rankings comes after all the underclassmen declare for the draft. When you consider that roughly 250 players get drafted each year and you inject 100 new underclassmen into the pool that is over 30%. 30% can create quite a bit of change in positional rankings.

Mike Mayock and Greg Cosell do watch a ton of tape. I've heard Cosell say he watches over 40 hours a week of players video. Cosell says scouts don't watch tape of every game of every player, usually on average they watch 3 or so games of a players best competition.

Cosell's main knock on Geno Smith was that he had slow eyes.

If you want to be better informed following @gregcosell is the best place to start.

IDEXAN
01-18-2014, 08:55 AM
1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-6, 268, 4.65)*: There is no denying that by registering only three sacks (and zero forced fumbles) in the 2013 regular season, Clowney has failed to live up to expectations. He also enflamed concerns about his maturity with a Dec. 7 speeding ticket in which he was clocked at 110 mph. Clowney's red flags are real, but so is his talent. In 13 years of grading prospects for the NFL Draft, Clowney competes only with former No. 2 overall pick Julius Peppers (2002) as the most gifted I've ever seen.

Playoffs
01-20-2014, 05:05 PM
1. Of the South's quarterbacks, Fresno State's Derek Carr unquestionably possesses the best arm. The ball explodes out of his hand and caught a few of his new teammates by surprise with how quickly it got to them. Carr showed good anticipation, often delivering passes before his receivers turned back to look for the ball.

2. Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo continued the positive momentum he'd gained from the East-West Shrine Game with an impressive initial practice. While he does not possess Carr's howitzer, Garoppolo has a very quick set-up and release and frequently threw led his receivers away from defenders, showing better ball-placement than Carr on several of his throws.

3. On the defensive side of the ball, Oklahoma cornerback Aaron Colvin demonsrated good speed and fluidity in coverage, as well as excellent leaping ability and timing to knock away passes.

4. Tennessee right tackle Ju'Wuan James hasn't received a lot of fanfare but he is a smooth athlete at 6-foot-6, 315 pounds. He was beaten on occasion but plays with terrific knee bend and got to the second level during scrimmages.

5. As impressive James was, arguably the most impressive offensive lineman of the day was North Dakota State's Billy Turner, who possesses a very similar build at 6-foot-5, 316 pounds. Unlike James, Turner struggles a bit with leverage, bending at the waist rather than the knees but he has strong hands and is a good athlete who projects as a quality NFL starter with a little refinement. His upside could push Turner into the top 100 picks, if he isn't there already.

6. Given his 6-foot-2, 243-pound frame, perhaps it isn't surprising that Auburn's Dee Ford was the most explosive of the South's pass-rushers but he certainly showed the burst to catch the attention of every scout in the stands. Ford is stronger than his size indicates and carried over the strong senior campaign that helped his Tigers qualify for the national championship game into Monday's practice.

7. While Ford played well, his former Auburn teammates, Chris Davis, struggled a bit fielding punts early in the practice. Davis has a tendency to allow the ball to hit his chest plate, which results in some double-clutching. Oklahoma's Jalen Saunders also struggled in this area. The former Sooners' star also dropped a couple of passes.

8. San Jose State quarterback David Fales is more of a gamer than a practice-guy but his lack of ideal arm-strength, unfortunately, stood out in comparison to Carr and, to a lesser-extent, Garoppolo. Fales telegraphed some throws (including a short pass over the middle that was intercepted by LSU linebacker Lamin Barrow) and his passes to the perimeter had too much air under them.

9. Arizona State defensive tackle Will Sutton didn't have the most impressive weigh-in but he showed off his athleticism with a terrific spin move to beat Arkansas center Travis Swanson (who was playing guard) during one-on-one drills late in practice.

10. Of the linebackers, I was most impressed with BYU's Kyle Van Noy, who frequently is lauded for his ability at the line of scrimmage but showed off his fluidity and instincts in coverage by closing quickly to bat away multliple passes.http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24415146/senior-bowl-10-observations-from-mondays-south-practice

Playoffs
01-24-2014, 10:02 AM
Rob Rang -- http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board

1. Jadeveon Clowney*, DE, South Carolina (6-feet-6, 268 pounds)

2. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M (6-5, 305)

3. Greg Robinson*, OT, Auburn (6-5, 320)

4. Teddy Bridgewater*, QB, Louisville (6-3, 220)

5. Sammy Watkins*, WR, Clemson (6-1, 200)

6. Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA (6-4, 238)

7. Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo (6-3, 248)

8. Blake Bortles*, QB, Central Florida (6-3, 230)

9. C.J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama (6-2, 232)

10. Marqise Lee*, WR, Southern Cal (6-0, 195)

11. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State (5-11, 197)

12. Eric Ebron*, TE, North Carolina (6-4, 245)

13. Johnny Manziel*, QB, Texas A&M (5-11, 210)

14. Mike Evans*, WR, Texas A&M (6-5, 225)

15. Zach Martin, OL, Notre Dame (6-4, 308)

16. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan (6-7, 310)

17. Stephon Tuitt*, DL, Notre Dame (6-5, 303)

18. Cyrus Kouandjio*, OT, Alabama (6-5, 312)

19. Jace Amaro*, TE, Texas Tech (6-5, 260)

20. Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State (6-2, 215)

21. Ryan Shazier*, OLB, Ohio State (6-2, 226)

22. Kony Ealy*, DE, Missouri (6-5, 275)

23. Calvin Pryor*, FS, Louisville (6-2, 208)

24. Timmy Jernigan*, DT, Florida State (6-2, 298)

25. Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State (6-0, 200)

26. Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU (6-3, 244)

27. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota (6-6, 318)

28. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU (5-10, 182)

29. Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State (5-10, 186)

30. Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh (6-1, 288)

31. Marcus Roberson*, CB, Florida (6-0, 195)

32. Scott Crichton*, DE, Oregon State (6-3, 265)

Just missed the cut
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix*, FS, Alabama
Ka'Deem Carey*, RB, Arizona
Bradley Roby*, CB, Ohio State
Dee Ford, DE/OLB, Auburn
Troy Niklas*, TE, Notre Dame
Xavier Su'a-Filo*, G, UCLA
Allen Robinson*, WR, Penn State
Kelcy Quarles*, DT, South Carolina
David Yankey*, G, Stanford
William Sutton, DT, Arizona State
Kelvin Benjamin*, WR, Florida State
Austin Seferian-Jenkins*, TE, Washington
Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
Jarvis Landry*, WR, LSU
Marcus Smith, OLB, Louisville
Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
Davante Adams*, WR, Fresno State

Playoffs
01-24-2014, 11:04 AM
Adding Dane Brugler's content here as both are CBSSports...

Dan Brugler's Big Board

1. Teddy Bridgewater QB, Louisville (6-2, 205, 4.67, JR)
Yes, his slender frame isn't ideal and his deep ball accuracy needs work. But Bridgewater succeeds with his mobility, arm talent and efficient ability above the neck. He is a pro-style passer who is grounded, mature and has shown the ability to easily digest information.

2. Jadeveon Clowney DE, South Carolina (6-5, 274, 4.56, JR)
A freak athlete with a very high NFL ceiling, Clowney has an explosive first step and accelerates quickly up the field to effectively disrupt the offensive gameplan. The effort concerns are real, but the potential and natural talent make the risk worth it.

3. Gregory Robinson OT, Auburn (6-5, 320, 4.98, rSO)
A two-year starter at left tackle, Robinson is an impressive athlete for his large frame with the quickness, agility and overall body control to cover a large area. His pass protection is still developing, but he is a devastating run blocker with a mean punch.

4. Khalil Mack DE/OLB, Buffalo (6-3, 248, 4.64, rSR)
A versatile, relentless pass rusher, Mack was extremely productive in college and holds several career NCAA records, including forced fumbles (16) and tackles for loss (75). He is always around the ball with his combination of speed, power and awareness.

5. Jake Matthews OT, Texas A&M (6-5, 305, 5.06, SR)
Probably the “safest” prospect in this class, Matthews started three seasons at right tackle before moving to the left side in 2013. He is a technically-sound blocker with good quickness and balance to protect the pocket against speed and hold up in space.

6. Anthony Barr OLB, UCLA (6-4, 248, 4.48, 4SR)
A former running back, Barr moved to pass rusher last season and excelled at backer for the Bruins, totaling 41.5 tackles for loss the past two seasons. He needs to refine some technical aspects of his game, but his speed/strength off the edge is exciting.

7. Sammy Watkins WR, Clemson (6-1, 205, 4.47, JR)
Watkins set several Clemson and ACC records over the past three years and is an exciting player to watch when he has the ball. He needs some polish in a few areas, but he has above average vision and acceleration and projects as a borderline WR1/WR2 in the NFL.

8. Eric Ebron TE, North Carolina (6-4, 245, 4.67, JR)
A wide receiver in a tight end's body, Ebron is a freakish athlete with the ability to make highlight-reel catches look easy. He is a work-in-progress as a blocker and will drop some easy ones, but his fluid athleticism and playmaking ability at the position are near elite.

9. Blake Bortles QB, UCF (6-3, 230, 4.78, rJR)
From both a physical and mental standpoint, Bortles is the most intriguing quarterback in this draft class. He needs some time to refine his talent and continue to develop, but he has a full toolbox and flashes plays reminiscent of Andrew Luck as a prospect.

10. Mike Evans WR, Texas A&M (6-5, 225, 4.58, rSO)
A physical, imposing target, Evans was Johnny Football's No. 1 target and safety valve in College Station the past two seasons. He isn't the fastest or most fluid athlete, but he boxes out defenders and has a large catching radius to dominate at the catch point.

11. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix FS, Alabama (6-1, 208, 4.54, JR)
12. Taylor Lewan OT, Michigan (6-7, 315, 5.09, rSR)
13. Louis Nix DT, Notre Dame (6-2, 345, 5.17, rJR)
14. Calvin Pryor FS, Louisville (6-2, 208, 4.57, JR)
15. CJ Mosley OLB/ILB, Alabama (6-2, 232, 4.65, SR)
16. Marcus Roberson CB, Florida (6-0, 195, 4.52, JR)
17. Zack Martin OG, Notre Dame (6-4, 305, 5.22, rSR)
18. Justin Gilbert CB, Oklahoma State (6-0, 200, 4.52, SR)
19. Jace Amaro TE, Texas Tech (6-5, 260, 4.67, JR)
20. Darqueze Dennard CB, Michigan State (5-11, 197, 4.52, SR)
21. Carl Bradford OLB, Arizona State (6-1, 243, 4.73, rJR)
22. Kony Ealy DE, Missouri (6-5, 275, 4.77, rJR)
23. Aaron Donald DT, Pittsburgh (6-1, 288, 4.93, SR)
24. Ryan Shazier OLB, Ohio State (6-2, 230, 4.58, JR)
25. Derek Carr QB, Fresno State (6-2, 215, 4.78, rSR)
26. Allen Robinson WR, Penn State (6-3, 210, 4.54, JR)
27. Scott Crichton DE, Oregon State (6-3, 265, 4.73, rJR)
28. Cyrus Kouandijio OT, Alabama (6-5, 310, 5.12, JR)
29. Jason Verrett CB, TCU (5-10, 176, 4.49, SR)
30. Brandin Cooks WR, Oregon State (5-10, 186, 4.49, JR)
31. Kyle Van Noy OLB, BYU (6-3, 244, 4.68, SR)
32. Troy Niklas TE, Notre Dame (6-6, 270, 4.84, JR)
33. Dee Ford DE/OLB, Auburn (6-2, 243, 4.72, SR)
34. Xavier Su'a-Filo OG, UCLA (6-3, 305, 5.18, JR)
35. LaMarcus Joyner FS, Florida State (5-8, 190, 4.52, SR)
36. Antonio Richardson OT, Tennessee (6-6, 327, 5.16, JR)
37. Dominique Easley DT, Florida (6-2, 285, 4.93, SR)
38. Johnny Manziel QB, Texas A&M (6-0, 210, 4.45, rSO)
39. Marqise Lee WR, USC (6-0, 195, 4.49, JR)
40. Kyle Fuller CB, Virginia Tech (6-0, 194, 4.45, SR)
41. Jarvis Landry WR, LSU (5-11, 193, 4.49, JR)
42. Odell Beckham WR, LSU (6-0, 195, 4.49, JR)
43. David Yankey OG, Stanford (6-5, 314, 5.08, rJR)
44. Ra'Shede Hageman DT, Minnesota (6-6, 318, 4.89, rSR)
45. Jimmie Ward SS, Northern Illinois (5-11, 191, 4.59, SR)
46. Billy Turner OG, North Dakota State (6-5, 316, 5.28, rSR)
47. Timmy Jernigan DT, Florida State (6-2, 298, 4.98, JR)
48. Kelvin Benjamin WR, Florida State (6-5, 235, 4.54, rSO)
49. Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE, Washington (6-6, 276, 4.75, JR)
50. Bradley Roby CB, Ohio State (5-11, 192, 4.39, rJR)

bhsman
01-24-2014, 11:36 AM
Rob Rang -- http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board

No Nix or Austin SJ in the first round? Hm.

thunderkyss
01-24-2014, 06:41 PM
Rob Rang -- http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board

I'm not hating on Derek Carr. I've watched some of his cut-ups & he's got potential.

But I don't understand how "everyone" has him rated higher than someone like Aj McCarron. I understand the knocks on McCarron... still don't understand how Derek Carr is seen as a 1st round talent but McCarron may slide to late in the third or further.

Playoffs
01-25-2014, 06:36 PM
2014 Senior Bowl: Auburn's Dee Ford headlines list of Risers-Fallers (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24420410/senior-bowl-auburns-dee-ford-headlines-list-of-risers-fallers)
Helped Themselves:

Dee Ford, DE, Auburn - Ford impressed with a chiseled..

Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh - It was Donald, not...

Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois - Scouts knew heading into the Senior Bowl that Ward...

Crockett Gillmore, TE, Colorado State - Gilmore came in late to the Senior Bowl...

Weston Richburg, OC, Colorado State - ...

Brandon Thomas, OL, Clemson - The unquestioned top offensive lineman...

Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton - The well-built Ivy Leaguer...

Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia - At 6-foot-6, 325 pounds, Moses possesses...

Ryan Grant, WR, Tulane - At a rock-solid 6-0, 197 pounds, Grant showed surprising...

Christian Kirksey, OLB, Iowa - The Big Ten remains one of college football's...

Missed Opportunity:

Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson - Despite media reports to the contrary, Boyd's inaccuracy...

Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor - At 6-foot-4, 344 pounds...

Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt - Matthews' production...

Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State - Sutton's...

Stephen Morris, QB, Miami - Morris earned the nickname...

Playoffs
02-18-2014, 12:10 PM
2014 NFL Draft: Finding the Fits for top QB prospects (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24446719/nfl-draft-finding-the-fits-for-top-qb-prospects)
When the Houston Texans are on the clock May 8 -- assuming they keep the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft -- there will be no slam dunk Andrew Luck-type prospect to fill their pressing need for a franchise quarterback.

Instead, there is a gripping debate developing over just who is the best quarterback prospect in this class. And the answer is, it will be in the eyes of the beholder come draft day. While Louisville junior Teddy Bridgewater remains NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated passer and No. 3 prospect overall, Central Florida redshirt junior Blake Bortles and Texas A&M redshirt sophomore Johnny Manziel are also projected top-10 picks.

Some scouts rate Bortles, Manziel or both ahead of Bridgewater. All three are projected as top-five picks in my current Mock Draft, as well as that of Dane Brugler, despite his significant concerns about Manziel's decision-making.

Each boasts tantalizing talent along with significant red flags, and below is a look at which quarterbacks would be the best fit -- and worst fit -- for teams with top-10 picks potentially in the market to draft a quarterback, taking into account skill sets, offensive schemes, weather conditions and other factors.

No. 1: Houston Texans
Best fit: Bridgewater

Given that the Texans boast considerable talent on both sides of the ball and are perhaps just some consistency at quarterback away from once again competing for an AFC South crown, Bridgewater is the most logical and safe selection.

The reason is simple -- he's the most accurate passer in the draft. Bridgewater's 68.3 career completion percentage wasn't manufactured by easy reads in the spread offense -- he displayed the ability to read defenses quickly and Pro Bowl-caliber ball placement. He is technically sound, very intelligent and a good, if underutilized, athlete.

His game is an easy projection to new coach Bill O'Brien's offense, a short, timing-based attack he implemented at Penn State and previously with the New England Patriots.

Good fit: Bortles

Bridgewater is pro-ready, but his slight frame is a legitimate concern. Listed at 6-feet-3 and 205 pounds, he's naturally lean and even a concerted effort to pack on good weight before the draft could be far-fetched (watch for his weigh-in numbers at the scouting combine).

That's part of the platform for Bortles (6-3, 230) gaining traction as a fit in Houston. Bortles has instincts and poise to go along with a strong arm and good athleticism. Bortles also led UCF to a victory over O'Brien's Nittany Lions in Happy Valley, drawing effusive praise from the coach following the loss. Further, O'Brien will get the straight scoop from Knights head coach George O'Leary. O'Brien coached for seven years under O'Leary at Georgia Tech and the two remain close.

Poor fit: Manziel

Johnny Football's undeniable playmaking ability and regional appeal give him a puncher's chance at pulling the upset, though in many ways he's the riskiest of the three top quarterbacks. His improvisational skills are mesmerizing but aren't necessarily an ideal match in O'Brien's scheme...

No. 3: Jacksonville Jaguars
Best fit:...

Playoffs
03-07-2014, 06:32 PM
Big Board: Clowney remains on top; Bridgewater tops QB class (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/24470701/big-board-clowney-remains-on-top-bridgewater-tops-qb-class)
1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)*: There is no question Clowney failed to live up to expectations in 2013 from a statistical standpoint but as he demonstrated in Indianapolis, the South Carolina star possesses a once-in-a-generation combination of size and explosiveness. Whether at defensive end or outside linebacker in a 3-4 alignment, he'll make an immediate impact in the NFL -- precisely why he has been my top-rated prospect since last spring.

2. OT Greg Robinson, Auburn (6-5, 332, 4.92)* : Physical and tenacious, Robinson is a grizzly bear in the running game, mauling opponents with an exciting blend of size, strength and athleticism. Auburn's reliance on the running game, however, provided Robinson few opportunities in pass protection. With some polish, he could prove an Orlando Pace-like presence in the NFL.

3. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo (6-3, 251, 4.65): With an FBS-record 16 career forced fumbles and record-tying 75 career tackles for loss, Mack's statistics jump off the page. Against the most gifted opponents he faced last year (Ohio State, Baylor, Connecticut), it was his game that jumped off the screen. His size, instincts and agility as an edge rusher make him equally intriguing to teams operating out of a 4-3 or 3-4 alignment. That versatility will almost certainly land him a spot in the top six. Some even view him as a dark horse candidate for the Texans at No. 1 overall.

4. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 308, 5.07)

5. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 211, 4.43)*

6. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-2, 214, 4.67)*: In an era in which college quarterbacks' numbers are often inflated by short passes and relatively simplistic schemes, Bridgewater's sparkling production was due to Pro Bowl-caliber accuracy in the critical short to intermediate levels. His success (71 percent completion rate with 31 touchdowns against just four interceptions) came out of a pro-style offense that required him to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage and complete NFL throws. His slight frame is a legitimate concern and he's not an elite deep ball passer, but he has shown great toughness over his career. Bridgewater did not throw at the combine, electing to wait until his pro pay March 17.

7. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-5, 255, 4.66)

8. QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida* (6-5, 232, 4.93): A prototypically-built pocket passer with good awareness, athleticism and arm talent, Bortles looks the part of an NFL star quarterback. He also played well against top talent (including South Carolina, Penn State and Baylor) and impressed me with his willingness to compete at the combine. He was good -- not great -- during his workout in Indianapolis, remaining a bit methodical in his set-up and delivery of the ball and a bit inconsistent with his accuracy. His upside will earn him the top ranking at quarterback for some, but it is not accurate to characterize him as a "can't miss" prospect.

9. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State (5-11, 199, 4.52)

10. DE Kony Ealy, Missouri (6-4, 273, 4.92)*

11. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State (6-0, 202, 4.37)

12. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 234, 4.65)

13. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (6-0, 207, 4.68)*: Manziel's vision, elusiveness and accuracy while on the move make him a magician in the improvisational game. Red flags were raised with mediocre performances against LSU and Missouri to end the regular season, however, as each team was able to contain his backyard-style of play by penning him in the pocket. Unable to create throwing lanes with his legs, Manziel struggled, raising concerns about his anticipation and accuracy in a muddied pocket. Manziel could have alleviated some of their concerns by throwing well at the combine, but skipped the passing drills to focus on his March 27 pro day. However, I was impressed with his composure at the podium in Indianapolis.

14. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (6-5, 231, 4.53)*

15. OL Zack Martin, Notre Dame (6-4, 308, 5.22)

16. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-1, 237, 4.58)*

17. DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 299, 5.06)*

18. DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh (6-1, 285, 4.68)

19. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 309, 4.87)

20. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 192, 4.52)*

21. FS Calvin Pryor, Louisville (5-11, 207, 4.58)*

22. DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame (6-2, 331, 5.42)*

23. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 250, 4.60)*

24. FS Hasean Clinton-Dix, Alabama* (6-1, 208, 4.58)*

25. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 304, 4.92)*

26. DE/OLB Dee Ford, Auburn (6-2, 252, 4.67)

27. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-09, 189, 4.38)

28. OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA (6-4, 307, 5.04)*

29. OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU (6-3, 243, 4.71)

30. DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 310, 5.02)

31. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State (5-10, 189, 4.33)d.

32. QB Derek Carr, Fresno State (6-2, 214, 4.69)

Just missed the cut:

WR Odell Beckham, LSU*
FS Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois
DE Scott Crichton, Oregon State*
CB Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama*
OC Marcus Martin, Southern California*
CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State*
TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame*
DE/OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford
DT DaQuan Jones, Penn State
WR Donte Moncrief, Mississippi*
OT Morgan Moses, Virginia
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington*
CB Marcus Roberson, Florida*
DT Will Sutton, Arizona State
WR Davante Adams, Fresno State*
WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State*

Playoffs
04-16-2014, 07:56 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/24529415/big-board-bridgewater-rates-as-no-1-qb-but-scouts-looking-deeper
1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)
2. OT Greg Robinson, Auburn (6-5, 332, 4.92)
3. OLB Khalil Mack, Buffalo (6-3, 251, 4.65)
4. OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 308, 5.07)
5. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson (6-1, 211, 4.43)
6. QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (6-2, 214, 4.67)
7. OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA (6-5, 255, 4.66)
8. QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida* (6-5, 232, 4.93)

9. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State (5-11, 199, 4.52)
10. CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State (6-0, 202, 4.37)
11. OLB C.J. Mosley, Alabama (6-2, 234, 4.65)
12. WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M (6-5, 231, 4.53)
13. OL Zack Martin, Notre Dame (6-4, 308, 5.22)
14. DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh (6-1, 285, 4.68)
15. OLB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State (6-1, 237, 4.58)
16. OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 309, 4.87)

17. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (6-0, 207, 4.68)
18. FS Calvin Pryor, Louisville (5-11, 207, 4.58)
19. DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame (6-2, 331, 5.42)
20. TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina (6-4, 250, 4.60)
21. DE Kony Ealy, Missouri (6-4, 273, 4.92)
22. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State (5-10, 189, 4.33)
23. FS Hasean Clinton-Dix, Alabama* (6-1, 208, 4.58)
24. WR Odell Beckham Jr., LSU (5-11, 198, 4.43)
25. DE/OLB Demarcus Lawrence, Boise State (6-3, 251, 4.80) A gifted pass rusher with enough athleticism to occasionally slip inside or drop back into coverage, Lawrence is eerily reminiscent of Bruce Irvin, the Seattle Seahawks "surprise" first round pick in the 2012 draft. His length and varied pass rush skills are enough to intrigue 4-3 and 3-4 teams, alike.

26. DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 299, 5.06)
27. WR Marqise Lee, Southern Cal (6-0, 192, 4.52)
28. CB Jason Verrett, TCU (5-09, 189, 4.38)
29. DE/OLB Dee Ford, Auburn (6-2, 252, 4.67)
30. QB Derek Carr, Fresno State (6-2, 214, 4.69)
31. OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA (6-4, 307, 5.04)
32. OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU (6-3, 243, 4.71)

33. DE Scott Crichton, Oregon State (6-3, 274, 4.84)*: Blue-collar pass rusher who combines initial burst off the snap, heavy hands and a high-revving motor to generate consistent pressure. Fits best as a 4-3 defensive end due to some lower body stiffness.

34. CB Bradley Roby, Ohio State (5-11, 194, 4.39)*: Boasts all of the athletic traits scouts are looking for including size, speed, fluidity and physicality. Struggled with consistency in 2013, perhaps in part due to the fact that he was often asked to play off, negating his athleticism and aggression.

35. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 322, 5.59)*: Scared off some with a poor showing in drills and in medical exams conducted at the combine, but boasts great length as well as agility, balance and toughness.

36. FS Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois (5-11, 193, 4.59): Starred at cornerback and safety in the MAC and proved just as athletic and instinctive while splitting time at the two positions in Senior Bowl practices. Given the NFL's increasing focus on the pass, it isn't out of the question that Ward sneaks into the first round, despite less-than-ideal size.

37. OT Morgan Moses, Virginia (6-6, 314, 5.35): Played well at right tackle early in his career but enjoyed his best season after making the switch to the left side as a senior. Helped his cause with a stellar performance in Mobile, showing balance, long arms (35 5/8) and strong hands to latch onto opponents.

38. WR Donte Moncrief, Mississippi (6-2, 221, 4.40)*: Stood out against SEC competition throughout his career and wowed at the Combine with his raw athleticism. Has the upside to warrant a first-round gamble but remains a better athlete than football player to this point and may require some patience.

39. DL Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-5, 304, 4.92)*: There is no questioning Tuitt's talent. He's shown a combination of size, strength and athleticism to earn comparisons to Richard Seymour from some scouts. However, there are plenty of red flags with the talented defender, not the least of which was his decision to turn pro a year early despite a disappointing junior campaign that began with him clearly playing his way into shape.

40. WR Allen Robinson, Penn State (6-2, 220, 4.60)*: Boasting size, acceleration and leaping ability, Robinson looks like a classic WCO split end -- precisely what Houston Texans' head coach Bill O'Brien used him as with the Nittany Lions.

41. OL Joel Bitonio, Nevada (6-4, 302, 4.97): Dominated at left tackle the past three seasons and made a seamless transition inside to guard at the Senior Bowl, impressing with his physicality and underrated athleticism. Seen by some as a poor man's Zack Martin and may join him as a first-round pick.

42. CB Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech (6-0, 190, 4.49): Quick, instinctive and physical, Fuller may be the best zone corner in the draft. Concerns about his relatively slim build, however, could push him outside of the draft's top 32.

43. OG Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State (6-3, 336, 5.51): Like 2013 first-round pick Chance Warmack, Jackson is a mauler in the running game with surprising balance and lateral agility to mirror in pass protection.

44. WR Davante Adams, Fresno State (6-1, 212, 4.56)*: Dominated in 2013, leading the country with a staggering 24 touchdowns receptions, Adams is a broad-shouldered, physical receiver who consistently beats corners in jump-ball situations because of his size, body control and leaping ability.

45. QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois (6-2, 226, 4.97): Proved a man among boys at the FCS level and stunned observers by performing just as well at the East-West Shrine Game, Senior Bowl and combine. Makes quick decisions and has a snappy release, making him a nice fit in a rhythm-based offense.

46. OT Ja'Wuan James, Tennessee (6-6, 311, 5.34): The best offensive lineman no one seems to be talking about; four-year starter with the length, power and agility to plug and play immediately.

47. DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 310, 5.02): A true gamble on greatness, Hageman (pronounced Hayg-men) is an athletic freak capable of dominating the line of scrimmage but too often disappears. Undeniable upside and scheme versatility could earn him a spot in the first round, but that's too rich for me.

48. WR Cody Latimer, Indiana (6-3, 215, 4.45)*: Intriguing developmental prospect whose experience on the basketball court shows with his fluidity, balance and soft hands. Plays with the grit to endear him to coaches, blocking well for teammates and showing rare strength at the combine (WR-leading 23 reps in the bench press).

49. TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame (6-6, 270, 4.84)*: A throwback tight end at his best paving lanes in the running game and serving as a security blanket rather than as a seam threat. Given a second-round grade from the Advisory Committee and may prove a better player in the pros than in college.

50. DE Marcus Smith, Louisville (6-3, 251, 4.68)* : Athletic, instinctive and aggressive edge rusher whose initially signed with the Cardinals as a quarterback. Impressive fluidity to attack off the edge or drop back and is well respected for his passion and work ethic.

51. DT Will Sutton, Arizona State (6-1, 303, 5.36)
52. OC Weston Richburg, Colorado State (6-3, 298, 5.10)
53. CB Marcus Roberson, Florida (6-0, 191, 4.61)*
54. RB Bishop Sankey, Washington (5-10, 209, 4.49)*
55. RB Tre Mason, Auburn (5-09, 207, 5-07, 207, 4.50)*
56. DE Kareem Martin, North Carolina (6-6, 272, 4.72)
57. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington (6-6, 272, 4.75)*
58. DT DaQuan Jones, Penn State (6-4, 322, 5.35)
59. SS Deone Bucannon, Washington State (6-1, 211, 4.49)
60. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech (6-5, 265, 4.74)*

61. OC Marcus Martin, Southern Cal (6-3, 320, 5.28)*
62. WR Bruce Ellington, South Carolina (5-09, 197, 4.45)*
63. ILB Carl Bradford, Arizona State (6-1, 250, 4.76)*
64. OLB Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech (6-3, 252, 4.68)
65. CB Jaylen Watkins, Florida (6-0, 194, 4.41)
66. FS Terrence Brooks, Florida State (5-11, 198, 4.42)
67. RB Carlos Hyde, Ohio State (6-0, 230, 4.66)
68. DT Ego Ferguson, LSU (6-3, 315, 6-3, 315, 4.98)*
69. DT Dominique Easley, Florida (6-2, 288, 4.93)
70. DT Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina (6-4, 297, 5.03)*

71. CB Phillip Gaines, Rice (6-0, 193, 4.38)
72. WR Jarvis Landry, LSU (5-11, 205, 4.77)
73. WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State (6-5, 240, 4.61)*
74. RB Jeremy Hill, LSU (6-1, 233, 4.66)*
75. QB Aaron Murray, Georgia (6-1, 207, 4.84)
76. OT Billy Turner, North Dakota State (6-5, 315, 5.16)
77. WR Martavis Bryant, Clemson (6-4, 211, 4.42)*
78. CB/FS Lamarcus Joyner, Florida State (5-08, 184, 4.55)
79. OG David Yankey, Stanford (6-6, 315, 5.48)*
80. OG Dakota Dozier, Furman (6-4, 313, 5.42)

81. DE/OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford (6-5, 250, 4.86)
82. OLB Trevor Reilly, Utah (6-5, 245, 4.70)
83. DE Will Clarke, West Virginia (6-6, 271, 4.77)
84. WR Paul Richardson, Colorado (6-0, 175)*
85. OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee (6-6, 336, 5.30)*
86. ILB Chris Borland, Wisconsin (6-0, 248, 4.83)
87. QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU (6-5, 224, 5.0)
88. OLB Telvin Smith, Florida State (6-3, 218, 4.52)
89. TE C.J. Fiedorowicz, 6-6, 265, 4.76)
90. RB Ka'Deem Carey, Arizona (5-09, 207, 4.70)*

91. OT Jack Mewhort, Ohio State (6-6, 309, 5.37)
92. CB Pierre Desir, Lindenwood (6-1, 198, 4.59)
93. WR Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt (6-3, 212, 4.46)
94. CB Bashaud Breeland, Clemson (5-11, 197, 4.62)*
95. QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama (6-3, 220, 4.94)
96. RB Terrance West, Towson (5-09, 225, 4.54)*
97. QB Tom Savage, Pittsburgh (6-4, 228, 4.97)
98. RB Andre Williams, Boston College (5-11, 230, 4.56)
99. ILB Shayne Skov, Stanford (6-2, 245, 4.85)
100. CB Rashaad Reynolds, Oregon State (5-10, 189, 4.51)

mussop
04-16-2014, 10:32 PM
cherry picking Rang


1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)

No need to explain.

33. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 322, 5.59)

A steal at 33.


65. Take your pick.

QB Aaron Murray, Georgia (6-1, 207, 4.84)
QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU (6-5, 224, 5.0)
QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama (6-3, 220, 4.94)

Honoring Earl 34
04-17-2014, 06:15 AM
cherry picking Rang


1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina (6-5, 266, 4.53)

No need to explain.

33. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama (6-5, 322, 5.59)

A steal at 33.


65. Take your pick.

QB Aaron Murray, Georgia (6-1, 207, 4.84)
QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU (6-5, 224, 5.0)
QB A.J. McCarron, Alabama (6-3, 220, 4.94)

A guy ranked 35 with iffy knees is a steal at 33 ? I would think a guy ranked 23 is a steal at 33 .

mussop
04-17-2014, 11:13 AM
A guy ranked 35 with iffy knees is a steal at 33 ? I would think a guy ranked 23 is a steal at 33 .

I don't agree with the ranking. Rang is a wang as far as I'm concerned. Just a few weeks ago he was being mentioned with Robinson, Mathews and Lewan as the top four OT's in this draft. And he wasn't always last on that list either.

He had a bad showing in his bowl game and didn't impress at the combine and it seems to have dropped him considerably on fake gm boards. Wheres the outcry that the combine doesn't matter? Only game tape is important right?

Well He is a huge tackle, opening big holes for 18 100-yard rushers over the 2012 and 2013 seasons. He was a first-team All American as a junior last season. He has elite size and was a standout player in the best conference in college football. During the regular season 2013 he had 14 knockdown blocks and allowed just 1.5 sacks in 286 pass attempts playing LT. Oh and the iffy knees you mentioned, Dr. James Andrews, on behalf of Kouandjio, sent letters to NFL teams saying his knee was fine and he has had no issues with it. Andrews is a well know and respected expert.

bah007
04-17-2014, 09:00 PM
I thought Kouandjio looked like an elite prospect last year, but it turns out playing next to Warmack really helped him. Without Warmack to protect him, he looked pretty average this year.

I'm not even sure he can play LT in the pros. I think he's a RT. And the knee issue is still an issue. It may be smaller for some, but for others it's a red flag and not worth the risk.

WolverineFan
04-17-2014, 09:07 PM
I thought Kouandjio looked like an elite prospect last year, but it turns out playing next to Warmack really helped him. Without Warmack to protect him, he looked pretty average this year.

I'm not even sure he can play LT in the pros. I think he's a RT. And the knee issue is still an issue. It may be smaller for some, but for others it's a red flag and not worth the risk.

I had him ranked as a top 15 prospect until the Auburn and Oklahoma games, where he got completely abused by speed rushers. I also thought he was more athletic than what he showed at the Combine.

Not a good look to struggle against speed and then show questionable athleticism in workouts. I agree that he might strictly be a RT.

mussop
04-17-2014, 09:57 PM
I thought Kouandjio looked like an elite prospect last year, but it turns out playing next to Warmack really helped him. Without Warmack to protect him, he looked pretty average this year.

I'm not even sure he can play LT in the pros. I think he's a RT. And the knee issue is still an issue. It may be smaller for some, but for others it's a red flag and not worth the risk.

In what games did he look average? I thought maybe I missed something so I went back and watched the Auburn and LSU games. I chose them because they had very good DL's. I have to say I didn't see "average" play. Against LSU (video) (http://draftbreakdown.com/video/cyrus-kouandjio-vs-lsu-2013/) he was pretty dominate. Against Auburn (video) (http://draftbreakdown.com/video/cyrus-kouandjio-vs-auburn-2013/) he looked really good. In fact FF to the 10:45 mark and tell me that isn't impressive.

mussop
04-17-2014, 10:13 PM
I had him ranked as a top 15 prospect until the Auburn and Oklahoma games, where he got completely abused by speed rushers. I also thought he was more athletic than what he showed at the Combine.

Not a good look to struggle against speed and then show questionable athleticism in workouts. I agree that he might strictly be a RT.

I'm confused, isn't he number 71 in this video (http://draftbreakdown.com/video/cyrus-kouandjio-vs-auburn-2013/)? I don't remember seeing him getting abused.

WolverineFan
04-17-2014, 10:43 PM
I'm confused, isn't he number 71 in this video (http://draftbreakdown.com/video/cyrus-kouandjio-vs-auburn-2013/)? I don't remember seeing him getting abused.

Maybe it was the Miss State game then. I remember it being later in the year.

bah007
04-18-2014, 09:56 AM
In what games did he look average? I thought maybe I missed something so I went back and watched the Auburn and LSU games. I chose them because they had very good DL's. I have to say I didn't see "average" play. Against LSU (video) (http://draftbreakdown.com/video/cyrus-kouandjio-vs-lsu-2013/) he was pretty dominate. Against Auburn (video) (http://draftbreakdown.com/video/cyrus-kouandjio-vs-auburn-2013/) he looked really good. In fact FF to the 10:45 mark and tell me that isn't impressive.

Yes he looks average to me. He is a very solid run blocker when he's not lunging forward reaching with his arms. He's an average pass blocker. He moves okay but not great.

I don't see a first round LT in those videos. Anthony Steen actually looks like the better player in those two games. When I watch Kouandjio I see a solid RT. I have a 2nd round grade on him.

Personally, I would pass because of the knee, but I'm also jaded because of our history with injuries on the o line. I can see why someone would want him though.

mussop
04-23-2014, 10:02 AM
Yes he looks average to me. He is a very solid run blocker when he's not lunging forward reaching with his arms. He's an average pass blocker. He moves okay but not great.

I don't see a first round LT in those videos. Anthony Steen actually looks like the better player in those two games. When I watch Kouandjio I see a solid RT. I have a 2nd round grade on him.

Personally, I would pass because of the knee, but I'm also jaded because of our history with injuries on the o line. I can see why someone would want him though.

I agree he had spells where he looked average. There was a series in the Oklahoma game where he was abused by Striker and he gave up a sack at the end of the game. Still, other than that he was very good in all the tape I've watched. I admit haven't watched them all, I try and focus on the games against top competition.

I still believe he is a first round talent and if the knee checks out we would be crazy to pass on him at 33 unless there is a situation where we can get a QB. I see him as a day one starter at RT and a D Brown replacement in a few years.

Playoffs
04-23-2014, 11:32 AM
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Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron is considered as a mid- to late-round pick, but after watching the Virginia Tech and Tennessee games I see he has skills that relate to the NFL game. McCarron is better than a game manager, as he is often described...

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The draft process to drawing to a close and there are a number of players I call "safe" -- what you see is what you get and these guys are the whole package. They have talent, technique, work ethic and look like guys who understand how to handle themselves as pros. I have interviewed well over 100 of the top picks and watched all of them on tape. Here are my top 10 safe picks and there are no quarterbacks in the group:

Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
Khalil Mack, LB, Buffalo
Zack Martin OT, Notre Dame
Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
Odell Beckham, WR, LSU
Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
Chris Borland, LB, Wisconsin
Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt
Tre Mason, RB, Auburn