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keyser
11-21-2013, 08:57 AM
Let's assume that there's not going to be any coaching/management change for the rest of this season (I think that's a safe assumption), but that we have no idea what will happen after the season (I think that's also a safe assumption). I'm wondering what it is that other folks hope to see from the remainder of the season. There was a time when I'd have said I just want to see them turn things around and win a few (preferably in a row). But, given my expectation levels going into the season, and my disappointment now, I almost don't care whether we win or lose.

For me, I think the one important thing is to determine if Keenum can be a franchise-level QB going forward. We are going to have a high (maybe very high) draft pick. This might be our best chance to pick up a franchise QB, and we need to know as much as possible whether we need one, or whether Keenum can be the centerpiece to lead us on.

Maybe it's the preseason optimism holding out, but I don't think our team is in as bad of shape as our record indicates (i.e. we have a lot of good players in place that should let us be competitive in the future). I doubt that we'll have this good of a draft pick in future years. If Keenum can be a long-term solution at QB who can lead us to the playoffs, we can spend our top draft pick to address another area. If he's not going to be that guy, I think we need to go all out (trading up if necessary) to get the best QB we can - one that we at least think can be a SB-winner in the future. I don't care about much else (OK, people staying healthy) than this at this point. I'm curious if others have different ideas?

eriadoc
11-21-2013, 09:15 AM
I want to see Keenum develop, obviously. I want to see how Swearinger and Hopkins do. I want to see Derek Newton fired. I want to see the rest of the league recognize that JJ Watt is still the best defensive player in football. I want to see AJ get double digit TDs for the first time ever.

2slik4u
11-21-2013, 09:20 AM
I want to see Keenum develop, obviously. I want to see how Swearinger and Hopkins do. I want to see Derek Newton fired. I want to see the rest of the league recognize that JJ Watt is still the best defensive player in football. I want to see AJ get double digit TDs for the first time ever.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

BigBull
11-21-2013, 09:24 AM
I totally agree with you on Keenum. I would also like to see what some of the other young players like, Brandon Harris, Crick, Braman, Tuggle, Pleasant, and Dennis Johnson play more to see if they are worth keeping or if they need to upgrade. Since the season is lost they need to evaluate the talent level not just keep doing the same thing over an over and expecting a different result is insane.

Dutchrudder
11-21-2013, 09:31 AM
I don't really want to see anything else from this team this season. I switched to watching NFL Red Zone on Sundays a few weeks ago, and don't care to go back. I'd rather watch the best parts of other games than the Texans. If there is no management change this offseason, I won't care much at all going into next season. I can't imagine seeing Schaub start again in 2014. That honestly seems too incomprehensible for me to consider.

TheIronDuke
11-21-2013, 09:34 AM
I want to see Brooke Reed's flowing locks fly through the air as he gets blocked by scrub TE's and doesn't have any impact at all.

Runner
11-21-2013, 09:35 AM
No lame excuses, that's what I want to see.

Sigma
11-21-2013, 09:58 AM
honestly

I want them to play better but still lose out, at this point winning is just useless

I want to see the young players grow and the veterans step up in key moments

I want to see everyone healthy untill the end

I want to see those that will be free agents next year play like crap (someone has to suck in order to lose games, so I would like them to be the ones)

basically I want to have some fun watching games

bOODRO87
11-21-2013, 10:17 AM
To lose out to ensure a house cleaning and top pick. That's all i care about right now. Our OL, play calling, and defense gives us a good chance at that.

disaacks3
11-21-2013, 10:21 AM
Pretty much like Eriadoc - I want to see our younger talent get some "live evaluations". Better to find out what you have going forward and pull anyone who isn't likely to be back next year. (Tate, etc.)

Showtime100
11-21-2013, 10:34 AM
I hate to say it, but it wouldn't kill me to see the Texans try like hell to win out from here on but instead lose out and get a great draft pick. Tanking would not be an option. That is a deal-breaker for me.

Winning out from here on would be a little like farting upwind of yourself, no?

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Having said that I will be pulling for them week-in and week-out and let the chips fall where they may. It's impossible for me to literally root for them to lose.

Dread-Head
11-21-2013, 10:44 AM
I want to see:

a. Mr. J.J. Watt to be appointed the NFL's FIRST player/defensive co-ordinator as he prepares to unleash hell upon offenses next season.

b. Kubiak demoted to offensive co-ordinator.

c. Schaub demoted to back up QB where he belongs.

d. Bill gettin his own Saturday Morning Cartoon

e. Bill Cowher becoming the NEW head coach here in Houston

f. Bullock fired, and banned from playing, coaching or even WATCHING football ever again.

Hervoyel
11-21-2013, 11:31 AM
I want to see Keenum continue to grow and to lock down the QB position enabling the Texans to spend their resources fixing other areas of the team. I'd like to see the starting corners show up and the line get its act together for the remainder of the year.

Mostly though it's about Keenum getting playing time and improving. Some people say that if Kubiak is gone then Keenum won't get a shot because a new coach will want his own QB. I say that this is an owner who hired Kubiak more or less on the condition that he answer the question "Can we win with David Carr?" in the affirmative.

I don't want to see Keenum show well enough for McNair to hold the next coach to using him. I want him to show well enough for the next coach to want to use him. McNair will do the rest.

euro-Texan
11-21-2013, 11:42 AM
I'd love to see the fans stop trying to compete with NY or Philly for top a-hole fanbase by cheering injuries and booing the home team.

Brisco_County
11-21-2013, 11:52 AM
I'd love to see the fans stop trying to compete with NY or Philly for top a-hole fanbase by cheering injuries and booing the home team.

Thank you.

Uncle Rico
11-21-2013, 12:12 PM
I'd love to see the fans stop trying to compete with NY or Philly for top a-hole fanbase by cheering injuries and booing the home team.

Boom! Goes the dynamite.

I'd like to see the cheerleaders wrestle in a baby pool filled with ky jelly.

Toro walking out on the field piss drunk and slapping people around.

Qb demonstration in knocking beer cans off the heads of front office personnel.

silvrhand
11-21-2013, 12:27 PM
I'd love to see the fans stop trying to compete with NY or Philly for top a-hole fanbase by cheering injuries and booing the home team.

omg stop being so wishy washy..

Thorn
11-21-2013, 12:36 PM
Wins.

This losing **** is getting old.

chicagotexan2
11-21-2013, 01:08 PM
I don't really want to see anything else from this team this season. I switched to watching NFL Red Zone on Sundays a few weeks ago, and don't care to go back. I'd rather watch the best parts of other games than the Texans. If there is no management change this offseason, I won't care much at all going into next season. I can't imagine seeing Schaub start again in 2014. That honestly seems too incomprehensible for me to consider.

Well that's wishy washy!!!!! You need to suffer like the rest of us.

I want to see what players should stay and which ones should go.

gafftop
11-21-2013, 01:16 PM
See enough of our young talent to make a determination of keep/release. Don't we have some WRs on practice squad.

Don't know exact ramifications of taking chances on other teams practice squad players. Would have been nice to see if WillieJ was anything but we may be able to do the same in a different way.

Basically use the rest of the season to learn all we can so we can know what we have now and plan for next year. Let starters heal that are questionable health wise. Don't just waste the season trying to win meaningless games.

May do the same with coaching staff but probably not feasible.

Experiment with the players you have. Do it with all players not just Case.

Carr Bombed
11-21-2013, 03:15 PM
I'd love to see the fans stop trying to compete with NY or Philly for top a-hole fanbase by cheering injuries and booing the home team.

Fans weren't cheering injuries.. they were cheering the fact that a new QB was coming in, it just looked bad because the damn head coach didn't have the stones to pull Schaub out when he should have and it took a injury to get someone else in there... and fans boo in every NFL city in this country. Fans boo in just about every sports city in this country and around the world, it's nothing unique to NY or Philly.. or Houston, or even America.

infantrycak
11-21-2013, 03:53 PM
Fans weren't cheering injuries.. they were cheering the fact that a new QB was coming in

That's your version. I think a more reasonable one is some cheered the injury and even more cheered the new QB coming in.

Carr Bombed
11-21-2013, 03:58 PM
That's your version. I think a more reasonable one is some cheered the injury and even more cheered the new QB coming in.

So the majority of fans cheered that a new QB was coming in and share my point of view/version.. That's fine. Although I highly doubt people were "oh yeah, he's hurt.. this has nothing to do with a new QB taking the field.. I'm just glad Matt Schaub is hurt".

Let's not lawyer this up here.


The blame for people cheering that day needs to rest solely at the feet of Kubiak (not the fans that were happy to see a change), because why people cheered that day was, because of Kubiak. He completely mishandled the situation from the start and put Schaub in that situation.. The same situation Kubiak put him in when he put Schaub in the game last week. For a "QB guru", the guy has completely mishandled the QB position this year. That's why the fans expressed themselves that day... it's why they expressed themselves last Sunday. The injury to Schaub just made the reason for that expression look worse than it ever was. Schaub should've been sat down before that injury even took place.

bOODRO87
11-21-2013, 04:52 PM
That's your version. I think a more reasonable one is some cheered the injury and even more cheered the new QB coming in.

Well, looks like no one knows for sure then. We might as well stop talking about it because Schaub won't be here. It was beyond dumb for him to be even be playing. Next!

badboy
11-21-2013, 05:48 PM
I want to see improvement from Keenum, Newton, Brooks, Posey and Joesph. Martin is hard for me to evaluate. One game I want to cut him and next he looks almost salvagable.

bhsman
11-21-2013, 06:15 PM
Wins.

This losing **** is getting old.

Not too many, though. :kitten:

EDIT: Improvement and growth from all the rookies and second-year players. Which sucks all the more that Sam, Willie, and Cierre are gone. Maybe some of the promoted players will surprise us like Tarpinian?

Showtime100
11-21-2013, 06:32 PM
Aah screw it. Give JJ Watt his bucket list wish and let him play tight end or wherever he wants to play on the other side of the ball. Throw somebody else in his defensive spot and scout that guy. Meanwhile we would be keeping the Manster happy and there isn't a whole lot of that going around in TexanLand these days.

Btw, I'm being 90-95% fecetious so keep those cards and letters. :)

DocBar
11-21-2013, 07:24 PM
I want to see Keenum continue to grow and to lock down the QB position enabling the Texans to spend their resources fixing other areas of the team. I'd like to see the starting corners show up and the line get its act together for the remainder of the year.

Mostly though it's about Keenum getting playing time and improving. Some people say that if Kubiak is gone then Keenum won't get a shot because a new coach will want his own QB. I say that this is an owner who hired Kubiak more or less on the condition that he answer the question "Can we win with David Carr?" in the affirmative.

I don't want to see Keenum show well enough for McNair to hold the next coach to using him. I want him to show well enough for the next coach to want to use him. McNair will do the rest.110% agree with this post. There's far too much at stake to pull any azz clown crap like Kubiak did last week again. (Upper) Management needs to know, for sure, what they have in Keenum and the only way to do that is to let him play. My biggest fear is that Kubiak is going to stunt his growth by choking him down with the turtleneck offense he's known to go to.

Maybe Kubiak sees the writing on the wall and decides to call plays for his coaching future, whether in Houston or elsewhere, and show that he can call a more modern offensive game and really mix it up a bit.

Wins.

This losing **** is getting old.AMEN, young man!!!! I understand the thought behind all of the "lose out" stuff, but I really doubt many truly feel that way in their heart. No diehard fan wants to see their team lose just for a higher draft pick. You can completely blow a draft pick from anywhere on the board, not just the top 1-3 spots. I want to see consistently good football. It doesn't have to be great, just good. A good PK and good fundamentals on both sides of the ball and ST's (securing the ball and making tackles) would have the Texans at 6-4 or 7-3, regardless of Schaub and his pick 6 binge.

See enough of our young talent to make a determination of keep/release. Don't we have some WRs on practice squad.

Don't know exact ramifications of taking chances on other teams practice squad players. Would have been nice to see if WillieJ was anything but we may be able to do the same in a different way.

Basically use the rest of the season to learn all we can so we can know what we have now and plan for next year. Let starters heal that are questionable health wise. Don't just waste the season trying to win meaningless games.

May do the same with coaching staff but probably not feasible.

Experiment with the players you have. Do it with all players not just Case. I somewhat agree with this except that playing a lot of young guys over vets on offense could very well adversely affect a good analysis on Keenum. I'd rather see him play with the starters, barring injury.

On defense, they could bench 2/3's of the starters and we'd probably never notice. I lost respect for Ed Reed for his comments, but they might well be true. This defense has been more miss than hit since game 6 or so last season. I wouldn't mind seeing some different combinations on D and letting Herring call the D. He stood in for Wade when he had his surgery (with so-so results). That and let any random fan from the stands coach ST's. That's the best I could come up with on the bolded. LOL

steelbtexan
11-21-2013, 10:26 PM
I'd love to see the fans stop trying to compete with NY or Philly for top a-hole fanbase by cheering injuries and booing the home team.

I wish you had spent the equivalent of your kids college tuition and had to watch this crap every Sunday in the same seats. Let me tell you something, my wife is a huge Texans fan (Not a football fan) and if the same crap that happened last Sunday happens again (She wants to see if Case is the future) I am going to have a hard time justifying my season tickets. It's never a good thing for the wives to be pissed.

BTW, I'm a 10 yr season ticket holder.