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Seegara
11-17-2013, 05:24 PM
What do you think it is? Item 5 is sort of tongue in cheek since these are easier to get.

Rey
11-17-2013, 05:45 PM
Easily a new coach. Not even close.

kingtexan
11-17-2013, 05:46 PM
Entire organization. We currently are pathetic losers.

kiwitexansfan
11-17-2013, 05:47 PM
I voted something else before I noticed player only.

In saying that I think we need help on both sides of the line, I think we need a NT more than anything else, or another stud DE to get Watt some help.

aussie_texan
11-17-2013, 05:49 PM
ILB and RT not doubt. i voted for ILB though starting sharpton and tarpinian is a joke.

Goatcheese
11-17-2013, 05:51 PM
RT, RG, QB, OLB, NT in roughly that order.

jaayteetx
11-17-2013, 05:55 PM
I didn't play by the rules, I said something else because its rather obvious...

TejasTom
11-17-2013, 05:58 PM
Easily a new coach. Not even close.

My vote as well.

chicagotexan2
11-17-2013, 06:06 PM
Easily a new coach. Not even close.

Without doing this nothing else matters.

phantom17
11-17-2013, 06:06 PM
I voted for a stud OL & to fire Kubiak & his sidekick General manager!

speedfreek
11-17-2013, 06:10 PM
Please add "Coach" to the poll..

Thanks..

Play4theSlushie
11-17-2013, 06:12 PM
Kubes has to go

dream_team
11-17-2013, 06:27 PM
I think replacing the coaches goes without saying... that's an obvious. Which position is needed most is more of a debate. Thus, the poll.

Uncle Rico
11-17-2013, 06:33 PM
Depends on where you draft, I always say go best available, and to avoid trying to forcefeed a position.

Obviously all of those areas are positions of need.

TexansBull
11-17-2013, 06:36 PM
Is it possible to trade down and get one or two more draft picks?

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Norg
11-17-2013, 06:37 PM
umm right now we need a

New Coaches/GM/front office/training staff combo

and man we have so mannyyy holes we might need to trade down in the draft and gain more picks


we need

QB
RT
RG
LG
Center

RB
FB
TE

DE
NT
ILB
ILB
OLB

FS

KICKER

NEW Special team players

Tailgate
11-17-2013, 06:41 PM
Watt, Dre, Hopkins, Cushing, Brown, ... Outside of them who is a real lock talentwise we will have next year? And Cushing is on back to back major injuries.

Its depressing to think about our needs right now and a regime change has to happen... But Oline absolutely must be retooled to become the strength of this team again as soon as possible.

Mr teX
11-17-2013, 06:45 PM
Coaching makes a huge difference...look at the saints....garbage last year, payton comes back and they're a SB favorite.

SCOTTexans
11-17-2013, 06:50 PM
I don't see the everyone besides Watt option...

Thorn
11-17-2013, 07:55 PM
Easily a new coach. Not even close.

This.

TexanBacker93
11-17-2013, 08:06 PM
Coaching makes a huge difference...look at the saints....garbage last year, payton comes back and they're a SB favorite.

Chiefs, too. They haven't played the toughest schedule, but they've won.

As for players: RT, ILB, S, G, CB, K, OLB

Nawzer
11-17-2013, 08:07 PM
QB. We'll have the chance to draft a franchise caliber QB and even if he doesn't pan out, you have to take the risk because of the potential payoff. This is a QB driven league and if we can get the next Luck, Russell, or RG III you must take that risk.

Number19
11-17-2013, 08:47 PM
I went with "something else" for the simple reason that we have too many "pressing needs" to narrow it down to only one.

We need another safety behind Keo, Swearinger and Manning. We need a CB. I'm assuming Brennan Williams will not come back 100% but I'm going to assume David Quessenberry will contribute next season. Many say his best position is OG. We have to get one more season out of Wade Smith. So we need an OT. We have Trevardo Williams in the wings at OLB, but we're not getting sacks from outside. We need another OLB. Mays, Tarpinian & Tuggle are adequate, but we need a beast at ILB. And we need consistent push from our NT, so we need an upgrade here.

So our most pressing needs are at OT, NT, ILB, OLB, CB and S.

We're going to have a high draft pick and a lot of fans say we need to go QB. But we need a serious upgrade in overall talent and I can't see this happening in less than two years unless we trade our #1 for additional picks. Even doing this we will need to spend the money, if we can free up cap space, for one, maybe two, quality free agents.

The best I can do is to narrow our needs down to the two most pressing and I would say these are OT and CB. Really good CB's are hard to find in later rounds. Going CB in the 1st round would pay dividends; and OT with our high #2.

Norg
11-17-2013, 09:32 PM
I went with "something else" for the simple reason that we have too many "pressing needs" to narrow it down to only one.

We need another safety behind Keo, Swearinger and Manning. We need a CB. I'm assuming Brennan Williams will not come back 100% but I'm going to assume David Quessenberry will contribute next season. Many say his best position is OG. We have to get one more season out of Wade Smith. So we need an OT. We have Trevardo Williams in the wings at OLB, but we're not getting sacks from outside. We need another OLB. Mays, Tarpinian & Tuggle are adequate, but we need a beast at ILB. And we need consistent push from our NT, so we need an upgrade here.

So our most pressing needs are at OT, NT, ILB, OLB, CB and S.

We're going to have a high draft pick and a lot of fans say we need to go QB. But we need a serious upgrade in overall talent and I can't see this happening in less than two years unless we trade our #1 for additional picks. Even doing this we will need to spend the money, if we can free up cap space, for one, maybe two, quality free agents.

The best I can do is to narrow our needs down to the two most pressing and I would say these are OT and CB. Really good CB's are hard to find in later rounds. Going CB in the 1st round would pay dividends; and OT with our high #2.

if we got Quessenberry and Williams waiting in the wings and newton just going on his what 3rd year how is tackle our most pressing need

and Jackson and JJO are still here so CB isn't much a need its just we would like to upgrade them but we don't have the luxuary of going with what we "LIKE"

and u give all this help to the Def I think our Offensive and special teams needs a lot of help 2

if we are pick in the top 5 we def need a Corner stone player and if there is no one there we like we trade down but man I think if your picking in the top 5 u gotta roll the dice on a QB or a Super star DEF player

hradhak
11-17-2013, 09:37 PM
OT

There's no point in getting a QB if you can't protect anyone. Keenum has played well enough to this point that I think with experience and an offseason with a new coach he will be fine. We need a tackle to protect him and get him to learn to speed up his reads.

Number19
11-17-2013, 10:14 PM
if we got Quessenberry and Williams waiting in the wings and newton just going on his what 3rd year how is tackle our most pressing need...Williams injury is very serious, with C&D saying the chances of a full recovery quite low. I'm projecting Quiz to OG. That leaves Newton's ORT spot.

...and Jackson and JJO are still here so CB isn't much a need its just we would like to upgrade them but we don't have the luxuary of going with what we "LIKE"...Jackson and Joseph are OK. Let them battle it out for the second CB position. We need a shut down corner, which you usually only find at the top half of the 1st.
...and u give all this help to the Def I think our Offensive and special teams needs a lot of help 2I'm good at TE, WR, OC, LT, LG, QB, & FB. We need another RB, but it is not a top priority. That leaves the right side of the line.

Norg
11-17-2013, 10:22 PM
Williams injury is very serious, with C&D saying the chances of a full recovery quite low. I'm projecting Quiz to OG. That leaves Newton's ORT spot.

Jackson and Joseph are OK. Let them battle it out for the second CB position. We need a shut down corner, which you usually only find at the top half of the 1st.
I'm good at TE, WR, OC, LT, LG, QB, & FB. We need another RB, but it is not a top priority. That leaves the right side of the line.

Ur fine with Wade smith that dude needs to retire and is one of the main reasons we are 2-8 right now I disagree with that strongly

I think Owen will be gone so unless griffin steps up huge we need two TE's that's what we miss that Two TE set

good thing tho we have some Guards and a Center waiting in the wings but those are KUbes Guys so I don't know if the new coach will even care about those players

I just think a Franchise QB will fix a lot of those problems But I don't know whos out there nor who the New coach or Kubes would want

Case can stay maybe but in this league we need TWO star QB's

powda
11-17-2013, 10:36 PM
Plenty of qbs have failed with good ol's. Even more have failed with bad ol's. Lets learn from the carr debacle. Gimme a rt or a qb in rounds 1 and 2...whatever the order. I want the best possible talent at those positions.

Hervoyel
11-17-2013, 10:36 PM
I think it's pretty obvious that a new coach and staff are the change that must happen first but I chose offensive line because I think that the line is in really bad shape and has been for a while now. Whoever ends up coaching this mess next season is going to have to rebuild and unless they're complete morons that means building the lines first.

Only a fool drafts a franchise QB without lining up an effective group of linemen to block for him so spare me the stupid "If you have a chance to draft a franchise QB you MUST DO IT!" arguments. Every year there's a new bunch of franchise QB's ready to come out and set the league on fire. Every year most of them don't do much and some of that is because they go to dysfunctional franchises that are too stupid to understand that you have to get a line in place before you put the expensive new QB toy behind it.

If this franchise hasn't learned that then what's the point of any of it really? I hope even a team as screwed up as Bob McNair's could remember what it did just 12 years ago.

Start drafting linemen. Build an impenetrable wall of very big, very fast, very smart men and the rest will be easy no matter what system your new head coach wants to run.

bhsman
11-17-2013, 10:40 PM
I went with Quarterback, whether that means drafting a franchise QB like Mariota or Manziel, or having Keenum improve. Would prefer the former, though.

Fili
11-17-2013, 11:11 PM
Definitely O-line. In 2011 it made everyone look good. Schaub looked great. Arian was fantastic. Ben Tate had 900 yards of rushing. I think O-line is top priority after watching the Raiders game. Too many false starts and players missing assignments.

Norg
11-17-2013, 11:45 PM
if we go Oline then we deff need to get the HOT Vet F/A QB on the market next year

Kellen Clemens I guess has a stop gap QB LOL

sandmanx
11-18-2013, 12:07 AM
As far as players, Oline needs to be addressed first. After that the secondary needs some serious attention.

One thing that is for sure is there will be a lot of turnover in the offseason. I hope that Bob realizes it's time to clean house AND get a quality GM in here to hire a good coach to turn this trainwreck around.

TheMatrix31
11-18-2013, 12:20 AM
It's offensive line and it isn't even close. Linebacker is a clear second, though. Only two votes? LOL.

WolverineFan
11-18-2013, 12:32 AM
Bridgewater is the only QB I'd take in the top 5. If we don't have the #1 pick then he will probably be gone. If that's the case then we should go another direction and go QB in the 2nd round.

We need to cut Schaub and bring in a new QB to battle with Keenum next year. Of course, none of this is relevant if we don't fire the entire coaching staff. Every one of them.

Norg
11-18-2013, 02:08 AM
I already know right now Us and the jags are deceiving a plan to unite to take down the COLTS meaning we will help each other since we will prob be #1 and #2 in the draft MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


THE JAGUAR AND BULL WILL UNITE TO FORM VOLTRON !!!!!!!! a BULL Kitty hybrid :kitten:

Number19
11-18-2013, 06:25 AM
Ur fine with Wade smith that dude needs to retire and is one of the main reasons we are 2-8 right now I disagree with that strongly...Just how many picks do you think we have in the draft? How much cap space? If you read my posts you will see I wrote we need one more year out of Smith. He is not a high priority on the OL, but he's experienced and servicable, and he and Brown knows each other's play.

Brandon420tx
11-18-2013, 06:26 AM
I don't think the next regime will keep Case Keenum, but I do this he has played well enough that he'll get a job offer from another team somewhere. So I'm going to pick Quarterback to hopefully go with a new front office staff. Hopefully they let the new guy watch Matt Schaub take hits all next season.

sometexansfan
11-18-2013, 06:36 AM
I don't think the next regime will keep Case Keenum, but I do this he has played well enough that he'll get a job offer from another team somewhere. So I'm going to pick Quarterback to hopefully go with a new front office staff. Hopefully they let the new guy watch Matt Schaub take hits all next season.

NO!!! :pissed:

Brandon420tx
11-18-2013, 07:04 AM
You are right, he'd just go fetal

Number19
11-18-2013, 03:42 PM
As far as players, Oline needs to be addressed first. After that the secondary needs some serious attention.8 TD passes given up in the last 3 games!

CretorFrigg
11-18-2013, 04:47 PM
8 TD passes given up in the last 3 games!

3 to an UDFA QB's first start with a terrible supporting cast and his starting RB out.

HouTx11
11-18-2013, 05:08 PM
Priority #1: Replace head coach and offensive coordinator.

Wolf6151
11-18-2013, 05:23 PM
Easily a new coach. Not even close.


^^^^This^^^^

Naija Texan
11-18-2013, 06:55 PM
Offensive line, if what is being rumored about Brennan Williams is true, we might have to use another pick on a RT, which is a shame because I was certain we could have grabbed a great LG or defensive player early on and then pick up a QB in the second round.

But as great as the need at LB is, we have a 1st rounder, a 2nd rounder and hopefully a 4th round pick already on the OLB position, ILB could use some talent influxed but no ILB has yet to make their name to go as high as the Texans are likely to be drafting from in the first.

Maybe CB but I'm hoping the GM (new or returning) is smart enough to not drop Jonathan Joseph since I don't know any decent FAs at CB that will be as good and I don't want another Kareem Jackson style rookie trial by fire.

Number19
11-18-2013, 07:18 PM
...I don't want another Kareem Jackson style rookie trial by fire.I had forgotten (I just now looked it up) that Jackson was taken in the 1st round at pick #20. What I had more in mind was Dunta Robinson, taken with the #10 pick.

euro-Texan
11-20-2013, 07:44 AM
Better fans

Uncle Rico
11-20-2013, 09:03 AM
Better fans

LOL not sure if you are being sarcastic (which I love) or if you just want to sacrifice yourself for all our sins by saying that on this board.

Either way good stuff.

nero THE zero
11-20-2013, 09:10 AM
Plenty of qbs have failed with good ol's. Even more have failed with bad ol's. Lets learn from the carr debacle. Gimme a rt or a qb in rounds 1 and 2...whatever the order. I want the best possible talent at those positions.

Aaron Rogers and Peyton Manning seemed to do pretty well playing behind mediocre-at-best lines.

Having an elite QB virtually guarantees you at least one SB. Otherwise you have to patch together a team and hope the stars align.

If I have a top 5 pick in a supposedly historical QB draft, I am taking a QB, and it's not even close.

Frankly, it's shocking to me that, after 11 years of watching David Carr and Matt Schaub lose twice a year to Manning, more aren't on this bandwagon.

Malloy
11-20-2013, 09:24 AM
Last night I dreamt that we went for a NT in the first round. I was surprised because I thought that the right side of our O-line would be an even greater need, but then remembered that Kubiack probably thinks that oneshould not pick linemen before the 5th..


Wierd dream :)

Hervoyel
11-20-2013, 09:31 AM
Aaron Rogers and Peyton Manning seemed to do pretty well playing behind mediocre-at-best lines.

Having an elite QB virtually guarantees you at least one SB. Otherwise you have to patch together a team and hope the stars align.

If I have a top 5 pick in a supposedly historical QB draft, I am taking a QB, and it's not even close.

Frankly, it's shocking to me that, after 11 years of watching David Carr and Matt Schaub lose twice a year to Manning, more aren't on this bandwagon.

"supposedly historical draft"

Not everyone sees this QB class as being anywhere near as good as that.

That's why more people aren't on this bandwagon.

Plus, and it might even be a bigger factor if you think about it most of the posters are still trying to wrap their heads around where we'll be post season. There are six games left and it's not even a given that Kubiak will be gone (but it sure seems inevitable). It's probably still too soon for there to be a consensus bandwagon on any one player or position.

Dutchrudder
11-20-2013, 09:32 AM
Coaching makes a huge difference...look at the saints....garbage last year, payton comes back and they're a SB favorite.

The same could be said of the Chiefs, and the Eagles. Though the Eagles previous coach is the guy leading the 9-1 Chiefs so the situation and personnel make a big difference too.

Funny thing is the Panthers were a bad team under John Fox, who is now HC of the 9-1 Broncos. Yet the Panthers defense has surged to new heights and have high expectations this season under a second year coach in Ron Rivera, who had never been a head coach before. I think that has a lot to do with how the talent is utilized by the right coach.

We have seen this countless times in the NFL that a team with a lot of talent simply needs a new coach to come in and assess the issues, fill some major holes, and implement a new strategy that accentuates the team's advantages. I think the Texans could be a 10 win team next year with the right coach at the helm. Maybe it will take a year of rebuilding, like the Panthers did, but the fact is you need a HC willing to adjust to the current talent. We don't have that right now, so that's our biggest need. I voted "something else" because HC/GM/OC/DC are all major needs. We need new management.

steelbtexan
11-20-2013, 09:34 AM
Finding the right GM/HC.

DocBar
11-20-2013, 10:22 AM
I went with QB with the caveat that I want to see how Keenum does the rest of the year. This is looking to be a pretty good draft class at that position so I wouldn't pass on one if Keenum looks like he's struggling.

After that, it's BPA all the way. This team has so many holes to fill that I don't see any need to reach for any particular position. WR and maybe TE are the only positions I see that are pretty solid.

powda
11-20-2013, 01:58 PM
Frankly, it's shocking to me that, after 11 years of watching David Carr and Matt Schaub lose twice a year to Manning, more aren't on this bandwagon.

In my post you might see the words a rt or a qb in whatever the order.

Frankly, I am sold on Matthews. I am undecided on the qbs and want to find out more. I agree with your concept entirely if we have a shot at the "right qb."

The otherside of the coin is...if you miss on a qb that high it sets your team back several seasons and typically means the end of a coaching regime.

jaayteetx
11-20-2013, 01:59 PM
In my post you might see the words a rt or a qb in whatever the order.

Frankly, I am sold on Matthews. I am undecided on the qbs and want to find out more. I agree with your concept entirely if we have a shot at the "right qb."

The otherside of the coin is...if you miss on a qb that high it sets your team back several seasons and typically means the end of a coaching regime.

Used to, but with the restructered rookie contracts, as long as you have a regime that recognizes failure, it doesn't have to.

eriadoc
11-20-2013, 02:15 PM
8 TD passes given up in the last 3 games!

3 to an UDFA QB's first start with a terrible supporting cast and his starting RB out.

Hold on. If the defense giving up 8 TDs in 3 games is bad, then why is it not good enough that Keenum has 8 TDs in 3.5 games? And the UDFA QB with no supporting cast and starting RB out? LOL

Don't answer, it was a rhetorical question. ;)

powda
11-20-2013, 02:18 PM
as long as you have a regime that recognizes failure, it doesn't have to.

Dom and Gary couldnt. Hope the next one can. Your right though, salary wise it isnt what it used to be.