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VTexan
11-17-2013, 06:11 PM
it really possible that schaub starts next week? if so I will not watch the game nor any of the games for the remainder of the season.


still baffled of this decision today... i just don't understand in the least bit.

ziggy29
11-17-2013, 06:13 PM
I would be shocked if Kubiak doesn't stay with Schaub at this point.

phantom17
11-17-2013, 06:14 PM
I have a sinking feeling that it will be Schaub!:vincepalm::gun:

Mr. Texan
11-17-2013, 06:15 PM
reliant is gonna get REAL ugly if schaub finishes out the rest of the season.

it's not fair to schaub to put him out there.

what an absolute mess kubiak has created.

JCTexan
11-17-2013, 06:15 PM
If Kubiak is still the coach then Schaub starts.

Thorn
11-17-2013, 06:21 PM
I don't think so. I think Keenum starts no matter who the head coach is.

Honoring Earl 34
11-17-2013, 06:23 PM
The Texans have found a way to screw up an already bad situation . I think TJ deserves a shot now .

Vance87
11-17-2013, 06:24 PM
I don't think so. I think Keenum starts no matter who the head coach is.

I would have said that before today.

VTexan
11-17-2013, 06:25 PM
I don't think so. I think Keenum starts no matter who the head coach is.

if this is the case (lolpun) then why bench him when he wasn't even doing that bad. sometimes you have to ride out the cold streak. kubiak should be good at this for riding the schaub cold streak for all those weeks....


has kubiak come out with post game comments yet?

Wolf
11-17-2013, 06:26 PM
Kubiak is going to ride Schaub to the next team

dream_team
11-17-2013, 06:26 PM
Kubiak is trying to save his job, and the only remote possible chance of doing that is if he starts winning games and miraculously makes playoffs, and advances to the AFC championship game at least.

So I don't blame him one bit for making a decision that will help him win NOW. I know most of us consider this season a lost cause, we want to look the future, and we want to see if Case is part of that future. But if they keep losing, then Kubiak will certainly have no future here.

While Case has shown a lot of promise and potential, he still hasn't won a game, and we were clearly heading to our fourth loss against the Raiders. So I don't blame Kubes one bit for taking a gamble on Schaub and try to win the game.

As for next week, I suspect it will be another call late in the week. I give it 50/50 for either to start. And regardless of who starts, I give us a 50/50 chance of beating the crappy Jags at home!

Marcus
11-17-2013, 06:27 PM
I think Keenum starts. As a matter of fact, I'll bet on it.

Any takers? Put your "money" where your mouth is. :)

Thorn
11-17-2013, 06:27 PM
Keenum has more "potential" that Schaub and Yates added together. That doesn't mean Keenum is going to be our starter next year, it just means I think he's better than Schaub or Yates and for now we should stick with him.

HTown2ATX
11-17-2013, 06:28 PM
The Texans have found a way to screw up an already bad situation . I think TJ deserves a shot now .

So, Case screwed up that bad 3.5 games in?

I missed that part I guess.....

Either way it doesn't matter anymore anyway I guess.

Wolf
11-17-2013, 06:31 PM
Will the Texans blame Wade this time? Yeah the defense sucks too

Honoring Earl 34
11-17-2013, 06:32 PM
So, Case screwed up that bad 3.5 games in?

I missed that part I guess.....

Either way it doesn't matter anymore anyway I guess.

Nobody said anything about Case , stop being subjective . Case should have played to the end of the season . He let Schaub rear his ugly head and split the locker room .

Premier
11-17-2013, 06:34 PM
it really possible that schaub starts next week? if so I will not watch the game nor any of the games for the remainder of the season.


yea this is where im at.. see ya at the combine or OTAs.

Rey
11-17-2013, 06:35 PM
My vote is on Schaub.

He's going to say Schaub didn't do anything to lose the starting spot against Oakland.

HTown2ATX
11-17-2013, 06:38 PM
Nobody said anything about Case , stop being subjective . Case should have played to the end of the season . He let Schaub rear his ugly head to split the locker room .

Not trying to start anything with you. Just mentioning time to give Yates a shot it implies Case is done. Kubiak's dumbass is what allowed Schaub in the game.

My mistake if I misread that.

Arky
11-17-2013, 06:39 PM
Hmmm, which QB would you start?

QB A last 4 appearances: 2 TD's, 5 INT's

QB B last 4 appearances: 8 TD's, 1 INT

Goatcheese
11-17-2013, 06:40 PM
Does it really matter? If the Jags weren't on the schedule, I think they lose out with anybody but Manning or Brady under center.

Mr. Texan
11-17-2013, 06:41 PM
Hmmm, which QB would you start?

QB A last 4 appearances: 2 TD's, 5 INT's

QB B last 4 appearances: 8 TD's, 1 INT

the one that actually won 2 games this season.

j/k :)

kingtexan
11-17-2013, 06:41 PM
I think Keenum starts. As a matter of fact, I'll bet on it.

Any takers? Put your "money" where your mouth is. :)

Ill take that bet ...

aussie_texan
11-17-2013, 06:42 PM
if schaub starts....
:bat::pissed::foottap::cry2::hunter::tvhorror:

kiwitexansfan
11-17-2013, 06:43 PM
Schaub, he is Kubiak's guy.

Honoring Earl 34
11-17-2013, 06:44 PM
Not trying to start anything with you. Just mentioning time to give Yates a shot it implies Case is done. Kubiak's dumbass is what allowed Schaub in the game.

My mistake if I misread that.

If he put Schaub back in , he might as well give TJ a chance because if you have two starting QBs , you have none .

JCTexan
11-17-2013, 06:44 PM
He's going to say Schaub didn't do anything to lose the starting spot against Oakland.

That type of comment would piss me off. Keenum went 13/24 for 170 yards with a one TD and one pick. Schaub went 12/25 with 155 yards no TD's...

Arky
11-17-2013, 06:44 PM
the one that actually won 2 games this season.

j/k :)

Ya, Ed Reed was 0-7 as a starter. Man, I'm sure glad we got rid of that guy.... ;)

Eternal1
11-17-2013, 06:44 PM
Psl owner. if schaub starts im considering selling my psl. Pm Me

nut
11-17-2013, 06:55 PM
After Kubiak legally adopts Shaub tomorrow, he will put him back in as starter to ruin whatever fun there was left for the Texans fans watching the games. I have never wanted Kubiak or Schaub from the beginning. I think the only reason Kubiak got hired was because he told McNair he could win with Carr, which McNair wanted to hear. His offense is just a retread from Shanahan that has been outdated since before he got here. Schaub is just a backup to Vick and was never more than that.

EllisUnit
11-17-2013, 07:18 PM
Make no mistake Schaub will start next week, Kubiak was itching to find a reason to put him back in and he did. Sure Case has a lot to learn, but the potential is there. He cant learn from the bench.

If kubiak was the president he would of been impeached by now, if he was a CEO he would of been voted out by the board, if he was a lion he would of been banised from the pride, but since he is hometown Kubiak with a no guts owner he will continue to make the rest of the NFL laugh at us.

texanhead08
11-17-2013, 07:22 PM
Schaub will start next week. I could tell Kubiak was planting that seed with his comments earlier this week.

Uncle Rico
11-17-2013, 07:26 PM
Why pull Keenum for Schauby if Schaub isnt going to be the guy moving forward. From what I can gather the FO is pushing Keenum harder than Kubiak would like, and there could be a severe conflict of interest going on.

To me its becoming more clear that Kubiak is out at the end of the year, and he's going to do it his way.

HTown2ATX
11-17-2013, 07:29 PM
To me its becoming more clear that Kubiak is out at the end of the year, and he's going to do it his way.

Agreed. Kubiak is going to get fired the way we all envision it going down where we go down in legendary flaming fashion. What a joke this has become.

SchaubApologist
11-17-2013, 07:29 PM
schaubby!!!!!!!

devo-x
11-17-2013, 07:30 PM
Keenum > Schaub (although he has a learning curve and will make mistakes but his overall body of work more impressive)

Norg
11-17-2013, 07:32 PM
TJ yates Why not :P

SchaubApologist
11-17-2013, 07:32 PM
if schaub starts....
:bat::pissed::foottap::cry2::hunter::tvhorror:

nah man, you got it all wrong.

schaub gives the texans their best chance to lose. the #1 pick is very much in play.

Playoffs
11-17-2013, 08:56 PM
.................................................a vg. per pass/TDs/INTs/sacks/Rating
C. Keenum 13/24 170 7.1 1 1 2-21 73.3
M. Schaub 12/25 155 6.2 0 0 0-0 67.9
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=331117034

Tolar's Ghost
11-17-2013, 09:00 PM
I don't think so. I think Keenum starts no matter who the head coach is.

I agree. I think this was Kubiak's way of giving Schaub one last shot at reclaiming the job. But he failed.

eriadoc
11-17-2013, 09:09 PM
I think Dennison will start Keenum.

Vance87
11-17-2013, 09:13 PM
I think Dennison will start Keenum.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ab/ab8c229496701a3c93896c03d0a251dc00d0428b5e74c8f1da 2d40985648dca6.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
11-17-2013, 09:15 PM
I think Dennison will start Keenum.

I think you're right. Kubiak will develop turf toe after coming down from the observation perch and onto the turf this week during practices.:tiphat:

MEGA SWATT
11-17-2013, 09:18 PM
Kubiak is trying to save his job, and the only remote possible chance of doing that is if he starts winning games and miraculously makes playoffs, and advances to the AFC championship game at least.

!

Can you share what you're drinking?

mussop
11-17-2013, 09:34 PM
The real question is who will be the coach?

Tolar's Ghost
11-17-2013, 09:52 PM
If you look at how pained Kubiak looks in this clip - in which he's asked to explain pulling Keenum -I think he needs some time away from the pressure-cooker:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=9329397&pid=null&section=null

tvaughan
11-17-2013, 10:06 PM
Kubiak is trying to save his job, and the only remote possible chance of doing that is if he starts winning games and miraculously makes playoffs, and advances to the AFC championship game at least.

So I don't blame him one bit for making a decision that will help him win NOW

I actually see it the opposite way. I think the only chance Kubiak had at keeping his job was if Keenum was seen as the next QB and that he could flourish under this system and Kubiak's tutelage.

When Kuibiak put Schaub in, it was as good as a signed resignation. Kubiak's not coming back. There is no longer an argument for his return.

bigmck
11-17-2013, 10:14 PM
My vote is on Schaub.

He's going to say Schaub didn't do anything to lose the starting spot against Oakland.

This is what we will hear. Schaub should have never played today. I think Kubiak felt pressured to play Keenum and now at the first sign of trouble, he uses it as an excuse to put Schaub back in.

SchaubApologist
11-17-2013, 10:20 PM
If you look at how pained Kubiak looks in this clip - in which he's asked to explain pulling Keenum -I think he needs some time away from the pressure-cooker:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=9329397&pid=null&section=null

kubiak looks disconnected as usual.

i can't believe he's back. why won't he just go away.

hradhak
11-17-2013, 10:23 PM
If they start Schaub, I will probably not go to the game. I have had season tix and have never left early. When Schaub came in the game was the first time I ever contemplated leaving.

I will support a losing team regardless. I won't support a coach who deliberately puts his team in positions to lose.

axman40
11-17-2013, 10:26 PM
If Schaub starts next week , I will become Austin's Texan Bill and you can find me at the Gentlemen's club!
:tiphat:

Hervoyel
11-17-2013, 10:27 PM
Who starts at QB next week?

Honestly? I don't care.

tvaughan
11-17-2013, 10:27 PM
If they start Schaub, I will probably not go to the game. I have had season tix and have never left early. When Schaub came in the game was the first time I ever contemplated leaving.

I will support a losing team regardless. I won't support a coach who deliberately puts his team in positions to lose.

PSL owner since the year one. If Schaub starts it will be the first game I missed since 2009 and the first game ever I CHOSE to miss.

Just can't put myself through that emotional grinder. Not worth it.

DX-TEX
11-17-2013, 10:28 PM
VY

:texflag:

TexanBacker93
11-17-2013, 10:30 PM
Keenum should get the start, but I think he goes with Schaub.

It smells like a job saving hail mary, but I think he has a better job keeping it by playing Keenum and using his development as an argument to stay.

hookinreds
11-17-2013, 10:35 PM
Seriously, does it really matter who the hell starts at QB next week? Will it freaking matter who the hell starts at QB next week? When will it matter who the hell starts at QB any freaking week when you have the same dip**** calling the plays? It really is a damn Dennys menu, becuase there's no damn way there's any NFL caliber plays on it. The handful of plays that they draw up with numb nuts at the wheel aren't qualified for PeeWee football. What a damn joke.

Grams
11-17-2013, 10:38 PM
Does it really matter anymore who starts at QB?

This year is already down the tubes.

Lucky
11-17-2013, 10:42 PM
.................................................a vg. per pass/TDs/INTs/sacks/Rating
C. Keenum 13/24 170 7.1 1 1 2-21 73.3
M. Schaub 12/25 155 6.2 0 0 0-0 67.9
Yeah but Matt's incompletions were Andre Johnson's fault. Try to keep up and stop with the objective analysis.

Honoring Earl 34
11-17-2013, 10:55 PM
Does it really matter anymore who starts at QB?

This year is already down the tubes.

Yeah but Matt's incompletions were Andre Johnson's fault. Try to keep up and stop with the objective analysis.

Schaub was running the wildcat and it turned into the pole cat .

SchaubApologist
11-17-2013, 10:56 PM
Does it really matter anymore who starts at QB?

This year is already down the tubes.

Uh ya, it kind of does. Texans desperately need to see what they have with keenum. Starting schaub impedes that.

Bulls on Parade
11-17-2013, 11:01 PM
It might be time to give T.J. Yates another looksy.
May as well start him against the Jaguars. :texflag:

hookinreds
11-17-2013, 11:03 PM
I think you're right. Kubiak will develop turf toe after coming down from the observation perch and onto the turf this week during practices.:tiphat:

If not, I'll push him.

tvaughan
11-17-2013, 11:06 PM
It might be time to give T.J. Yates another looksy.
May as well start him against the Jaguars. :texflag:

NO ONE thinks Yates is the guy. He is a back-up.

The question is whether Keenum is the guy or not. Or is he just another #2 as well.

In my humble opinion, there is no reason to start Yates.

thunderkyss
11-17-2013, 11:12 PM
I actually see it the opposite way. I think the only chance Kubiak had at keeping his job was if Keenum was seen as the next QB and that he could flourish under this system and Kubiak's tutelage.

When Kuibiak put Schaub in, it was as good as a signed resignation. Kubiak's not coming back. There is no longer an argument for his return.

That's the same way I see it. The fans would probably have given Case a pass if we lost that game with Case under center. They might not have liked it, but most would probably accept Kubiak in 2014 (the last year of his contract) as the best chance for Case to succeed here in Houston.

By pulling him & putting Schaub in the game, he pretty much said Case isn't the future & if Case doesn't have a future here, Kubiak has long over stayed his welcome.

This is what we will hear. Schaub should have never played today. I think Kubiak felt pressured to play Keenum and now at the first sign of trouble, he uses it as an excuse to put Schaub back in.

& this is why I think Case would have got a pass if he finished the game & we still lost. We're way past the first sign of trouble.

Vance87
11-17-2013, 11:21 PM
Now that I know why Kubiak did what he did, I understand it. Do I agree with it? No, not really. But I get it.

They were trying to win the game in hurry-up mode and Keenum I guess didn't have enough experience in running something like that, so Schaub was put in to run it.

(on putting QB Matt Schaub in the game) “What was happening was, we had to make a lot of changes from a protection standpoint to handle some of the things they were doing. Trying to create some tempo and do that. And it made it very tough on (QB) Case (Keenum), in my opinion, being a young player. I knew that (QB) Matt (Schaub) could get done some of the things that I wanted to get done, real fast, and to give us a chance to win the football game. So that’s why I did it.”

My problem is, and this is something Kubiak has ALWAYS done - he's too soft, too good of a guy. He will continually work around a QB's flaws instead of trying to correct them. For years, they did this with Schaub, saying "Well we don't want to put him in an uncomfortable position..." This is football, if the guy can't handle it, you need to find someone who can, not someone who you are constantly gonna have to baby and hold hands with every step of the way.

Now, Kubiak is doing the same thing with Keenum. He was struggling against the blitz (weakness) and apparently could not run the two-minute drill effectively enough (weakness) and so he puts in Schaub instead of trying to work through it. If Keenum was a 1st or 2nd round pick and our guy going forward, he'd probably stay in. But because no one really knows who's gonna QB next year, he was taken out.

Like I said, I understand the motive, I just don't agree fully.

mike moffat
11-17-2013, 11:53 PM
My delema is that I can't cancel my "Super fan" agreement with Directv! I'll bet that there are probably 5 local high school coaches that could do a better job than Kubiak.

Keenum should get the start. But kubiak has a love affair with Schaub.

VTexan
11-18-2013, 01:47 AM
They were trying to win the game in hurry-up mode and Keenum I guess didn't have enough experience in running something like that, so Schaub was put in to run it.



which is ultimately kubiak's fault to begin with. keenum should have been practicing with starters a long time ago. instead of playing free safety........................

Bulls on Parade
11-18-2013, 02:52 AM
NO ONE thinks Yates is the guy. He is a back-up.

The question is whether Keenum is the guy or not. Or is he just another #2 as well.

In my humble opinion, there is no reason to start Yates.
Agreed. But if we're going to play Schaub instead of Keenum which it seems Kubiak is leaning in that direction after today's game, I think we'll be in an even worse situation.

I don't want to see the Texans play these final six games like preseason games where they keep alternating QBs throughout the game. One guy plays a half, the next plays a quarter apiece. I believe Dan Reeves once alternated quarterbacks every single play in the early '90s one time. At least we aren't in a comical situation like that.

But oh well. At 2-8, and with three tough games (Broncos, Patriots, at Colts) and three winnable games left on our schedule I don't think it really matters too much. And even those so-called easy games left (Jaguars twice and at Titans) will probably not be games we can expect to win playing like we did today.

We may be staring a 2-14 record in the face. I hate to say it.

Norg
11-18-2013, 03:10 AM
GARY KUBAIK he will announce his return to the NFL insert himself has the starting QB and THen things will get interesting


:)

qqert
11-18-2013, 06:59 AM
We may be staring a 2-14 record in the face. I hate to say it.

i'll be happy with a 2-14, then we can draft #1.
we need decent right side tackles.

cstyle42
11-18-2013, 07:43 AM
The Houston Texans are an embarrassment to the city of houston and the state of Texas. Kubiak is the biggest idiot in the state of Texas and things are just bigger in Texas.

craneman
11-18-2013, 07:44 AM
reliant is gonna get REAL ugly if schaub finishes out the rest of the season.

it's not fair to schaub to put him out there.

what an absolute mess kubiak has created.
This is true....WHY...Let Case see what he can do. If THE HEAD COACH think Matt is better than Case, we really have a bigger problem.

craneman
11-18-2013, 07:46 AM
I would bet!!!!!

speedfreek
11-18-2013, 08:36 AM
Case should start. If injured, Yates should start.

But knowing Kubiak, Schaub will start... and instead of
losing games by 1, 3, 3, and 5 we will again be losing games
by 21, 31, and 25

TJ

gafftop
11-18-2013, 08:46 AM
Anybody but Matt. He is a cancer on this team. No logical reason to play but there was no logical reason for him to play Sunday.

If you are not going to play Case play TJ not Matt at least we learn something.

amazing80
11-18-2013, 09:13 AM
I hope if gary isnt fired today (which looks doubtful) bob at least steps in and says play case the rest of the way and stop giving reps to matt in practice. even if case plays matt is stealing half the reps and imo its hampering cases ability to improve.

The1ApplePie
11-18-2013, 09:30 AM
I hope if gary isnt fired today (which looks doubtful) bob at least steps in and says play case the rest of the way and stop giving reps to matt in practice. even if case plays matt is stealing half the reps and imo its hampering cases ability to improve.

Case getting pulled seems to me to be pretty telling about how much stock the team really puts in Keenum.

There is going to be a new starting QB next year

Brandon420tx
11-18-2013, 09:40 AM
Case Keenum has won a #2 job for another team somewhere out there if the Texans decide to go another direction.

What I'm saying is I don't see a new regime choosing to stick with Case Keenum as the future of the team. #2 behind their draftpick/FA QB at best. More than likely Case is playing for a job as a backup for another team. Which I think he's doing a good job putting up his resume.

CloakNNNdagger
11-18-2013, 09:44 AM
Case getting pulled seems to me to be pretty telling about how much stock the team really puts in Keenum.

There is going to be a new starting QB next year

How much at this point in time can one put stock in who is responsible for developing and ANALYZING the talent on the field?:toropalm:

HTown2ATX
11-18-2013, 09:48 AM
Case getting pulled seems to me to be pretty telling about how much stock the team really puts in Keenum.

There is going to be a new starting QB next year

I personally think the team itself had plenty of faith/stock in Keenum. The dumbass coach being a dumbass doesn't change my mind. He's simply a dumbass.

HOU-TEX
11-18-2013, 09:53 AM
Meh, it doesn't matter at this point. IMO, neither QB should be our starter next season.

This season is worse than 2-14 to me. An epic fail that should cost people jobs. But, with our 12 step program in relieving someone of their duties, who knows?

Thorn
11-18-2013, 09:55 AM
I personally think the team itself had plenty of faith/stock in Keenum. The dumbass coach being a dumbass doesn't change my mind. He's simply a dumbass.

I'm thinking this as well. Sure, Keenum has some learning to do. But what better way for him to learn when the season is ALREADY a bust. Not like there is pressure on anyone to win. Let Keenum learn and play. If he doesn't justify being a starter at the end of the season, draft a new QB. But at least give Keenum a chance to prove what he can do. See if he can start turning things around and get some wins under his belt.

It's plainly obvious that neither Yates or Schaub is the answer.

Hervoyel
11-18-2013, 09:59 AM
I personally think the team itself had plenty of faith/stock in Keenum. The dumbass coach being a dumbass doesn't change my mind. He's simply a dumbass.

This is what I think too. The team stepped it up when Case went in four weeks ago. The KC game was a one point loss to an undefeated team. The Colts game was a defensive collapse where the fat kicker left 9 points on the field....


You know, there's just no point. Keenum goes from 3rd string and no reps to playing at a higher level than our starter and this is how it ends? Kubiak may not have lost his locker room (personally I think that issue is very much in doubt right now) but he's lost me forever. To hell with that coach. I knew years ago there was something wrong with what I was looking at and it's never been more obvious that he's a lousy coach.

If he runs Schaub out there the rest of the year I'm definitely in the "Hope every single team they face beats the **** out of them" crowd because I know that any kind of late season ralley on their part is nothing but more of Gary's patented "Smoke & Mirror" brand garbage-time snake oil.

Honoring Earl 34
11-18-2013, 09:59 AM
I personally think the team itself had plenty of faith/stock in Keenum. The dumbass coach being a dumbass doesn't change my mind. He's simply a dumbass.

I think it's more of , for lack of better words funeral syndrome , which brings out the best in some and the worst in others . Matt is the prodigal son who Gary is going to try to get back in the good graces of the fans .

The1ApplePie
11-18-2013, 10:06 AM
I personally think the team itself had plenty of faith/stock in Keenum. The dumbass coach being a dumbass doesn't change my mind. He's simply a dumbass.

Should have said the organization, not the team.

If Rick Smith, McNair, and Kubes really thought Keenum was a franchise QB, he wouldn't have been exiled to the bench

I like Keenum, but I always thought they kind of tossed him out there as a publicity stunt, like Tebow was in Denver during their losing season a few years ago. Tebow happened to start winning, so they stuck with him. Keenum hasn't, hence them benching him.

IlliniJen
11-18-2013, 10:07 AM
http://s.quickmeme.com/img/b6/b6dd7852add6067f52d0776c16c8b448a27b3863361e0550e1 8ba7ff444593b9.jpg

hookinreds
11-18-2013, 10:18 AM
Keenum "should" be the QB on the field next week. I think the real question is "Who should call the plays next week"? If Kubiak is calling the plays, you are going to get the same generic play calling, and only be successful when Keenum freestyles.

DX-TEX
11-18-2013, 10:45 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZW7Me3CIAAG0s-.jpg:large

Tolar's Ghost
11-18-2013, 11:17 AM
Well done.

Pretty much sums it up.

Honoring Earl 34
11-18-2013, 11:34 AM
Well done.

Pretty much sums it up.

The question to me is , who's job is Gary trying to save ? His , Matt's , or both of theirs ? That seems to be his focus and I think it really stressed him during the Colts game and the fans chanted KEENUM KEENUM KEENUM . I think that killed him that Matt was embarrassed .

mike moffat
11-18-2013, 11:47 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZW7Me3CIAAG0s-.jpg:large

Tex, you made me laugh during a very sad thread! Thanks for the levity.

mike moffat
11-18-2013, 11:51 AM
I think that Kubiak and Smith should read Thorn's signature and pay attention.
"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid".

Thank you Thorn, and, of course, the Duke.

:clap:

speedfreek
11-18-2013, 03:35 PM
people believe that, for whatever reason, Gary was chomping at
the bit to get Schaub back in the game -- and that Keenum was
just a placeholder taking over for an injured guy with a bruised
psyche---

the why would one believe that the same guy, Gary, would put
any serious emphasis in preparing Keenum or the o-line to
be successful against the blitz?

I don't know what to believe at this point, but I keep hearing people
say that Schaub will always be Gary's guy... If that's true, what
would Gary's motivation ever be to help the guy (Keenum) currently
keeping Matt on the bench?

Just a simple question/logic exercise..

TJ

Rey
11-18-2013, 03:42 PM
I don't believe that kubiak has given keenum the best chance at being successful.

speedfreek
11-18-2013, 04:38 PM
Gary just said Case starts next week.

$1.99 says it was a decision from higher up the pay scale
than Gary..

TJ

thunderkyss
11-19-2013, 01:14 PM
This is what I think too. The team stepped it up when Case went in four weeks ago. The KC game was a one point loss to an undefeated team. The Colts game was a defensive collapse where the fat kicker left 9 points on the field....


If there really was a spark, don't you think we'd have won 1 of the last 4? If we had won 1 of the previous 3, Schaub would not have come out Sunday as the desperation wouldn't have been so bad.

I understand how "tough" the KC game was & all the things going against Case. Colts? Arizona? How bad does a team have to be before we can beat them? You'd have thunk Oakland was bad enough, but half way through the third qtr it was pretty clear they weren't bad enough.

To me, a spark would help the hapless Jets with Gino Smith beat the New Orleans Saints. We were barely competitive with the Raiders & a rookie undrafted free agent QB.