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steds
11-10-2013, 06:15 PM
Burnt McCain strikes again.

Do you mean Brice McBurnt?

Happens so often it might as well be Burnt McBurnt.

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:15 PM
Our whole offensive line.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NENRr5I3jBY/SMdM4ONrf8I/AAAAAAAAAZE/P7zeA2NzKyU/s320/blog+swiss+cheese.jpg

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:15 PM
do we not have any plays for blitz's on 3rd? seriously?

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:15 PM
doesn't matter how athletic you are, a ****ty o-line is going to hurt your offense

houstonspartan
11-10-2013, 06:16 PM
I hope the same sentiment is shared by McNair.

No way do we fire a coach that had a health issue.


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fiasco west
11-10-2013, 06:16 PM
So...who do we draft?

gwallaia
11-10-2013, 06:16 PM
Punt with 5:00 minutes left and down by 10?

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 06:17 PM
Attention Schaub jock sniffers making smart ass comments in this thread: I'll still take my chances with Keenum over your boy Private Pyle.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:17 PM
I don't know that the staff even has any blitz-beater plays to dial up in their playbook.

Most of that is done at the line of scrimmage via audible/hot routes. But, considering ARI has blitzed damn near every play this half, you would think that we would start calling plays that expose them. Quick pass anyone?

He'll learn that when people blitz, running around is not what you do. You throw quick in the NFL.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:17 PM
So...who do we draft?We trade our entire draft to New England for Belichik.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:17 PM
So...who do we draft?

We control our own draft destiny against Jax at this point.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
oh ****!!!!!!!!!!!

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
Oh wow.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
woohoo!!! I hope it stands!!!!

Mr teX
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
Case has been hitting deep balls left and right his 1st couple of games....today 0....teams are adjusting slowly but surely....making him and this offense matriculate down field on 10-15 yard drives....they know we cant do it consistently

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
oh my ****ing god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SW H-TOWN
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
Yeah, Case is promising but he needs to work on beating the blitz. He is getting killed by it.

I think he is doing pretty good considering our O-Line is getting murdered out there. I'm amazed that he has not thrown an interception. I think only Peyton Manning could do anything with that sort of pressure coming his way.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
JJ Watt is AMAZING

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:18 PM
Our whole offensive line.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NENRr5I3jBY/SMdM4ONrf8I/AAAAAAAAAZE/P7zeA2NzKyU/s320/blog+swiss+cheese.jpg


or more accurately


http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/stylephotographs/stylephotographs0906/stylephotographs090600048/5088945-young-business-man-putting-his-head-through-an-empty-frame.jpg

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:19 PM
In. Sane.

DerekLee1
11-10-2013, 06:19 PM
Extremely poor OL and DBs lead to second half collapses. Terrible playcalling the last 6 quarters by Dennison, too. Screens, tosses and slants to beat the blitz. Haven't seen ONE today.

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 06:19 PM
These coaches don't deserve Watt.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:19 PM
10-1 we get a field goal!!!! LMAO!!!!!

burro
11-10-2013, 06:19 PM
YEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWW!

Lets get it!

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:20 PM
Do something Texans :swatter:

fiasco west
11-10-2013, 06:20 PM
These coaches don't deserve Watt.

Hopefully the next ones will. No way should these coaches stick around after this year.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:20 PM
cmon case :kubepalm:

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:20 PM
5 yd line and go empty again. WTF???????

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:20 PM
blitz, what are you going to do?

Uncle Rico
11-10-2013, 06:20 PM
Quick slant would score against this aggressive defense.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
Watt is giving us a chance to win

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
That's gonna get overturned.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
Amazing

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
Andre ****ing johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
AJ is ridiculoius.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
OMG Andre Johnson are you serious?!?! WHAT A CATCH!

CretorFrigg
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
10-1 we get a field goal!!!! LMAO!!!!!

You forget Randy Bullock is our kicker.

fiasco west
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
Andre and Watt trying to salvage this game and season!

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
Andre is such a beast.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
He caught it

cameronkrazie86
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
Andre Johnson's fantasy value has been insane since Keenum took over.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:21 PM
My GOD.

Wolf
11-10-2013, 06:22 PM
Andre just incredible

SAMURAITEXAN
11-10-2013, 06:22 PM
TD Case to AJ

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:22 PM
Did his right heel hit the ground in bounds?

[edit -- never mind. Looks like his right foot was planted when he first possessed it.]

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:22 PM
more TD's for AJ in 3 games than last year total

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 06:22 PM
Quick slant would score against this aggressive defense.

Yup. Been saying it all game.

burro
11-10-2013, 06:22 PM
AJ!!!! Helluva a catch...bailed Keenum out there.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:22 PM
Thank goodness I'm typing because I'm speechless right now.

Austrian
11-10-2013, 06:23 PM
Incredible catch.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:23 PM
Not enough evidence

stonewhite
11-10-2013, 06:23 PM
Wow we just capatilalized with a TD on TO. Amazing

SW H-TOWN
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
or more accurately


http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/stylephotographs/stylephotographs0906/stylephotographs090600048/5088945-young-business-man-putting-his-head-through-an-empty-frame.jpg

Exactly.

Wow, that catch by Johnson was amazing. Even more so considering he was blanketed by Patrick Peterson.

mussop
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
That's getting overturned

houstonspartan
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
Case ain't going anywhere. Andre will make sure of that.


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buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
Touchdown great job aj and jj

chicagotexan2
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
Andre!!!!!!

gwallaia
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
WOW

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
Can you say baller?

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
That's getting overturned

whats that....

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Pretty bad when an extra point makes you nervous as hell.

chicagotexan2
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
That's getting overturned

Over confirmed!!!

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
that's one of the best catches by AJ ever....

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
i wonder will andre johnson's bronze bust have waves on it when it goes to canton?

OzzO
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Speaking of Antonio Smith... where's he been today?

Naiirb
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Andre putting on a clinic on getting both feet in bounds in the end zone. Simply amazing

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Perhaps a stop? Or another turnover? Maybe?

Premier
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
AJ!!!! Helluva a catch...bailed Keenum out there.

db made a play, if he throws it any higher keenum misses both guys and we kick a fg.. yea and helluva catch by dre..

Lurvinator11
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Now we just need to get the ball back, and either tie, or go for the win!

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
And a blocked FG is why we aren't tied right now. sigh.........

chicagotexan2
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
Oh damn now they have play defense

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
hey schaub get your bum ass out the shot

mussop
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
Why Andre hasn't been target more in the endzone over the years is criminal.

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
bullock got the pressure extra point!

dtran04
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
LOL at Ed Reed now on kickoff coverage.......

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
One of the most insane TD catches I've ever seen.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/openingimage_zps10f95f3c.gif



Dre =

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/dresm.jpg

Mr teX
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
The defense is getting TO's....if there was ever a game to break this losing streak, this is it...

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:27 PM
:trophy:

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:27 PM
bullock got the pressure extra point!

Don't get too excited. He may have to kick a late FG to send it to OT....

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:27 PM
Our defense rules!

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:28 PM
not the screen

burro
11-10-2013, 06:28 PM
The defense is looking pumped. Hope it lasts 4 mins.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
I miss spoke :kubepalm:

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
2 screens in a row

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
McCain make a play

Wolf
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
3rd and 2 and we give up a wide open play for first

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:30 PM
oh lord this might come down to a bullock field goal :kubepalm:

dtran04
11-10-2013, 06:30 PM
They are calling NOTHING but safe quick throws yet the Texans can't defend it. JUMP some routes here.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:30 PM
Our defense rules!

:toropalm::rake:

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:31 PM
Why did Wade burn all of our time outs? Just plain stupid.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:31 PM
Why did Wade burn all of our time outs? Just plain stupid.

Yep I agree dumb

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:31 PM
keo :doot:

steds
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
Why did Wade burn all of our time outs? Just plain stupid.

Agreed

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
Arizona gonna challenge that and they'll get it.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
No way this gets overturned

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
No way he got a first down

cameronkrazie86
11-10-2013, 06:33 PM
That was a hell of a catch.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:33 PM
Arizona gonna challenge that and they'll get it.Probably.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:33 PM
Here comes the asinine overturn and Texans loss.

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Why did Wade burn all of our time outs? Just plain stupid.

Well if this call stands then we get the ball back with a little over 2 minutes left.

Don't call your timeouts then we get the ball back with 1 minute and 2 TO's.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Hope not :clown:

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
I am so glad I was wrong.

OzzO
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Whooooo.... here we go.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Expect a blitz on every play. We need to beat it.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
burnt all our time outs

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Ok Case time to earn your money baby :cowboy1:

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
This would be a great time for a TD return.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
Game is in your hands Case. Make it happen

steds
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
Expecting something stupid like them converting a fake punt


Edit: Thank heavens for that. Come on Case!

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
andre johnson td coming up :)

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
here comes the blitzkrieg

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
how bout one good return

burro
11-10-2013, 06:36 PM
Give em hell Case!

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:36 PM
Well if this call stands then we get the ball back with a little over 2 minutes left.

Don't call your timeouts then we get the ball back with 1 minute and 2 TO's.2 minute warning would've stopped the clock. Should save one for a last second FG attempt.:pissed:

gafftop
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Missed FG????????????/

CretorFrigg
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
2 minute warning would've stopped the clock. Should save one for a last second FG attempt.:pissed:

Two words: Randy Bullock

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Man hope doesn't come down to Bullock

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
So, what kind of heinous ridiculousness is going to happen to end this game?

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
how bout one good return

He had some room, but not surprised with the fair catch. That was probably called on the sideline before the play. They wanted to run an offensive play before the 2 minute warning so they could get some yards and take advantage of the clock stoppage. Exactly the reason Wade used his TO's before the 2-min warning, IMO.

Uncle Rico
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
QBs earn their money in the clutch.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
2 minute warning would've stopped the clock. Should save one for a last second FG attempt.:pissed:

i think a hail mary has a better shot than a FG attempt.....

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Two words: Randy Bullock

Which is why he boldfaced and underlined "attempt"?

srrono
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
http://fauxjohnmadden.lockerdome.com/media/110354530

gif of aj catch

CretorFrigg
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
I'm going to expect the Cards to blitz on every play.

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
2 minute warning would've stopped the clock. Should save one for a last second FG attempt.:pissed:

That's what spikes are for. Wade maximized the time available to Keenum. It's his job to get us down the field. He has 2 minutes to do so.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
He's not afraid to go deep

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
I've not been overly impressed with Keenum's deep balls today.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Two words: Randy Bullockhence the bolded, italiced amd underlined attempt.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Wow bad throw

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
damn keenum accuracy has been ass this drive

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:40 PM
WTF is that call on 3rd and 3? You don't get a first down, the game is over.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Why are they going deep twice? Wasted downs.

mussop
11-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Ok case this is where you prove you're a franchise QB.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:40 PM
:mariopalm:

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Ball game bad play calls

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
There was way too much time to keep throwing way downfield. Plenty of time to get some first downs.

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
2 and freaking. Call me when the draft starts.

steds
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Sigh

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Frustrating :faildetector:

CretorFrigg
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
I'm going to expect the Cards to blitz on every play.

Called it.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
WTF is that call on 3rd and 3? You don't get a first down, the game is over.

You don't call a pass play where the QB is told to throw the ball deep. That's why there are progressions.

Poor drive right there.

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Ball game bad play calls

Do not absolve Case for that 3rd down. You cannot blame the play calls for conservative short stuff and over-aggressive deep stuff.

Keenum plays aggressive. He wanted to go deep and it cost us.

BeerTastesLikeVictory
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
One foot off the Keenum bandwagon....still willing to see how the rest of the season transpires but I think he looked rattled in the second half

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
"whew"- randy bullock

gtexan02
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Absolutely terrible series by case

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
We need the Jags and Bucs to win a few....

Uncle Rico
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Oline gave Keenum time, he couldnt find the open man.

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Feel sorry for JJ Watt

Austrian
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Well longset losing streak in franchise history.

mussop
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
I'm sorry but Im still looking to draft a QB.

ajohnson80
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
wish the receivers had a chance to make a play. that blitz finally wore him down.

nut
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
c'mon man

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
Texans lost, cougs lost, and rockets lost....not a good weekend for me in sports.

htowntexans1985
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
Next week is the battle for 1st. 1st pick of the 2014 draft that is.

CretorFrigg
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
Feel sorry for JJ Watt

Why? I don't. He's making millions of dollars playing a game.

I feel sorry for the fans who actually force themselves to watch this crappy team play and lose a couple years off their lives because that's just how frustrating it is.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
Oh well bro.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
I'm sorry but Im still looking to draft a QB.

The O-line is a much bigger problem than QB, and yes, it even was with Schaub.

gtexan02
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
Case has had a bunch of chances to win late and has failed every time. He has skill, no doubt, but he's got a lot to learn. His deep throws were horrible at the end of the game
You don't throw deep on 3rd and 3

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
horrible called game today, all the empty back fields, the bad play calls when the blitz is coming, the in ability to adjust. Atleast Case looked pretty good considering how the o-line looked and atleast AJ got 2 more TDs.

Our coaches need to learn what half time adjustments mean, cause we are seriously lacking there.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
I'm sorry but Im still looking to draft a QB.

He does some things well, but he needs major work in some areas.

Still have to give him some time, but I am with you. Need to find a QB if this thing with Case Keenum isn't going to work out.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
case 0-3 as a starter. 2 chances at game winning/game tying drives failed.

it's cool tho. he's still a rookie and this is nothing but reps for next year.

Lurvinator11
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
We should have tried to pick up the First when it was third and three.

I don't see why he threw it away like that.

fiasco west
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
Next week is the battle for 1st. 1st pick of the 2014 draft that is.

TB is still winless. Unreal that this team is where they are right now. 2-7.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
Why? I don't. He's making millions of dollars playing a game.

I feel sorry for the fans who actually force themselves to watch this crappy team play and lose a couple years off their lives because that's just how frustrating it is.

You don't feel bad for greatness being wasted? I do. You can't ***** about crappy play then not feel bad for the two insane performances by our two best players going to waste.

Hervoyel
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
Do not absolve Case for that 3rd down. You cannot blame the play calls for conservative short stuff and over-aggressive deep stuff.

Keenum plays aggressive. He wanted to go deep and it cost us.

Yeah. We've been hearing (and rightfully so) that Case is going to screw up. He's for all intents and purposes a rookie QB (well, "first time starter") and tonight at the end of the game he screwed up.

Lots of blame to go around and Case gets his share too.

dream_team
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Case has had a bunch of chances to win late and has failed every time. He has skill, no doubt, but he's got a lot to learn. His deep throws were horrible at the end of the game
You don't throw deep on 3rd and 3

He's shown flashes, but obviously still a lot to learn! At least he has a bunch more games this season to keep learning.

cstyle42
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Texans lost, cougs lost, and rockets lost....not a good weekend for me in sports.

Rockets have hope... texans will continue to lose until Kubiak and crew are gone. I can't believe they didn't see this coming... but when fans sellout reliant unfortunately they don't give a care.

cameronkrazie86
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
This season sucks, ugh. I'm at the point where I'd rather see them just lose out and get a top 5 pick. From Super Bowl aspirations to just sucking instead. Disappointing.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Yeah. We've been hearing (and rightfully so) that Case is going to screw up. He's for all intents and purposes a rookie QB (well, "first time starter") and tonight at the end of the game he screwed up.

Lots of blame to go around and Case gets his share too.

i agree, if anything we should of ran a QB draw on 3rd and 3, i was expecting one TBH. And keenum looked way off on his deep balls tonight, maybe the coverage was just that good ?

Hervoyel
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Wonder how "frustrated" the front office is with the Kubiak "regime" after tonight?

Wolf
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
I don't get mad watching games nowadays I guess this acceptance is good for my blood pressure

nut
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
We have plenty of games left to see if Case can be the guy before the end of the year. BTW, what the hell is up with our 2H play?

dream_team
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Rockets have hope... texans will continue to lose until Kubiak and crew are gone. I can't believe they didn't see this coming... but when fans sellout reliant unfortunately they don't give a care.

I actually think the same thing about the Rockets and McHale.

panamamyers
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Just send the house every play and the Texans will not move the ball an inch as long as Keenum is the qb. He does not have the tools to beat it.

Mr teX
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Why are they going deep twice? Wasted downs.

Thats all case....he's shown the tendency to throw deep with a single high safety.....AZ was baiting him all day to throw it but seemed to have made it a priority to take it away from him b/c he hit none today and none were even close TBH...his deep ball touch caught the 1st 2 teams off guard.

He also had 3 near picks today throwing underneath......teams are adjusting

cstyle42
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
He's shown flashes, but obviously still a lot to learn! At least he has a bunch more games this season to keep learning.

He will keep getting sacked Derek Newton should not be starting on any nfl teams offensive line period. Those three points came back to bite us.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
case 0-3 as a starter. 2 chances at game winning/game tying drives failed.

it's cool tho. he's still a rookie and this is nothing but reps for next year.He's not a rookie. He has a lot to learn about beating blitzes. Apparently so does our coaching staff.

Mr.Scarface
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
The lack of Arian Foster........yall like to say Tate can do the same things. No he can't. Tate works better when Arian is playing. Tate as the #1 back doesn't work.

nut
11-10-2013, 06:48 PM
i agree, if anything we should of ran a QB draw on 3rd and 3, i was expecting one TBH. And keenum looked way off on his deep balls tonight, maybe the coverage was just that good ?

That was my thinking on 3rd & 3 also.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:48 PM
that first play with the offensive line costing that sack/fumble was big.

Mr.Scarface
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
Thats all case....he's shown the tendency to throw deep with a single high safety.....caught the 1st 2 teams off guard...AZ seemed to have made it a priority to take it away from him b/c he hit none today and none were even close TBH...

He also had 3 near picks today....teams are adjusting

Teams are adjusting....but he still didn't throw picks. No kubiak hurt this game, just like the 2nd half last week.

Heath Shuler
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
http://d3fsqtc6sy2z27.cloudfront.net/uploads/3fb78c555d07afec93d365112d4769a0_large

Scooter
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
somebody has to help keenum, you cant have essentially a rookie quarterback in his 3rd game throwing it 40+ times. our leading rusher had under 40 yards for the first three quarters, we couldnt block anyone, and the coaches have to be able to adjust when teams start sending the house. i'm not absolving keenum of anything, he's gotta learn to pick up the blitz and make better decisions, but you cant put the entire offense on his shoulders - especially when that's not how our offense is built to run.

cstyle42
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
Thats all case....he's shown the tendency to throw deep with a single high safety.....caught the 1st 2 teams off guard...AZ seemed to have made it a priority to take it away from him b/c he hit none today and none were even close TBH...

He also had 3 near picks today....teams are adjusting

Offensively he needs a better strategy coaching wise. In other words he needs another coaching staff, a better line and Foster back at running back.

2012Champs
11-10-2013, 06:50 PM
Thats all case....he's shown the tendency to throw deep with a single high safety.....caught the 1st 2 teams off guard...AZ seemed to have made it a priority to take it away from him b/c he hit none today and none were even close TBH...

He also had 3 near picks today....teams are adjusting


Yup that's the nfl. The game was a lot closer than it should have been thanks to watt and dropped ints

Thorn
11-10-2013, 06:51 PM
Case didn't win the game for us. So, anybody want Schaub back? Not me. Case, for me, have proven beyond a doubt that he's better than Schaub. Maybe Case will end up being our starter for years to come, maybe he won't. But out of the three QBs on the team, Case is presently our best chance at winning.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:51 PM
Just send the house every play and the Texans will not move the ball an inch as long as Keenum is the qb. He does not have the tools to beat it.

Neither did Schaub or Yates. Got a better option on this team?

nut
11-10-2013, 06:51 PM
Foster might be done. Tate would be running better without 4 cracked ribs. Maybe he is worth keeping, but he has trouble staying on the field.

BeerTastesLikeVictory
11-10-2013, 06:52 PM
At least we aren't peaking too early this year....unless game 2 was our peak

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:54 PM
Just send the house every play and the Texans will not move the ball an inch as long as Keenum is the qb. He does not have the tools to beat it.

no QB has the tools to beat an all out blitz while the o-line lets them all through, only thing that helps in those situations is a screen, quick slant, and sometimes a draw. The reasons he failed on the blitz are more on the play calling, that is the job of an O.C to guess what the D is going to do and counter, Dennison failed horribly.

cstyle42
11-10-2013, 06:54 PM
Bob Mcnair needs to let someone else make decisions on how to run a nfl franchise to get to the super bowl. Bob just knows how to get paid and the people he hires are in place just to fill up seats. I would clean house right now at 2-7.

Hervoyel
11-10-2013, 06:54 PM
We need a lot of help in a lot of areas but the first area I think we need to fix is the one that's been our Achilles Heal for a couple of years now. Our OL is the most broken thing on this team. It's killing us not being able to protect the QB. It was devastating when Schaub was in there and Keenum who is seriously mobile is still getting rushed and hit way too much.

The line is broken. Newton has to go. He's like having no one at all there sometimes. Whoever is playing next to him gets an automatic deduction from their overall grade just for having to play next to him. Myers is still getting it done but Smith on the left is having a bad year and frankly so is Brown. I don't remember ever seeing Duane Brown look as ineffective as he has at times this year. I know it sounds weird but he really seems just "small" and "weak" compared to previous seasons. Something has changed and I don't know what it is. That guy didn't go Vegan on us and not tell anyone did he?

We're staring at a 2-4 season I think. I didn't want to believe it until now but we are. It's sad because along with driving a stake into all of our hearts it's probably going to kill Keenum's career because he won't be able to turn this train wreck around. For the record I still think we've found our franchise QB. I just don't think changing that one part is going to be enough to get this thing back on the tracks.

DX-TEX
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
Why do we keep going with no back sets? Defenses kust tee off when they see it and destroy our QB

Premier
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
our coaching staff is just inept at making adjustments to other teams adjustments.. im not gonna write this kid off because hes hasnt shown the ability to beat the blitz yet. the guys that qbs target to beat blitzes are a backup rb with broken ribs, a practice squad rb, and a TE that was 4th string a couple years back. they are no OD and Foster. ive seen yates beat the blitz with these guys no reason to believe keenum cant do it..

if keenum was drafted in the first round, and this was the start to his season, despite being 0-3, i think most would be optimistic about the future.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
I think a blocking sled would protect the QB better than Newton.

BullNation4Life
11-10-2013, 06:58 PM
I think a blocking sled would protect the QB better than Newton.

A blind, motarded monkey with no arms could protect the QB better than Newton....

an that is selling the monkey short...

This is Keenum's audition for the next head coach. Let the kid sling it around and see what happens. Offense needs to pick up blitzes better but do you really expect anything less?

steelbtexan
11-10-2013, 07:03 PM
We need a lot of help in a lot of areas but the first area I think we need to fix is the one that's been our Achilles Heal for a couple of years now. Our OL is the most broken thing on this team. It's killing us not being able to protect the QB. It was devastating when Schaub was in there and Keenum who is seriously mobile is still getting rushed and hit way too much.

The line is broken. Newton has to go. He's like having no one at all there sometimes. Whoever is playing next to him gets an automatic deduction from their overall grade just for having to play next to him. Myers is still getting it done but Smith on the left is having a bad year and frankly so is Brown. I don't remember ever seeing Duane Brown look as ineffective as he has at times this year. I know it sounds weird but he really seems just "small" and "weak" compared to previous seasons. Something has changed and I don't know what it is. That guy didn't go Vegan on us and not tell anyone did he?

We're staring at a 2-4 season I think. I didn't want to believe it until now but we are. It's sad because along with driving a stake into all of our hearts it's probably going to kill Keenum's career because he won't be able to turn this train wreck around. For the record I still think we've found our franchise QB. I just don't think changing that one part is going to be enough to get this thing back on the tracks.

Agreed on Newton, I'm changing my stance, I wanted the best NT in the draft. But after watching Keenum getting pummeled the last 3 weeks OT is priority #1. Also rd 4-5 should be a draft pick that adds quality depth to the interior OL. Those 2 picks and a burner WR would complete the offense. Hopefully Posey can become that guy.

Regardless, I dont want Rick/Gary making any kind of personel decisions. It's time for them to go.

2012Champs
11-10-2013, 07:03 PM
A blind, motarded monkey with no arms could protect the QB better than Newton....

an that is selling the monkey short...

This is Keenum's audition for the next head coach. Let the kid sling it around and see what happens. Offense needs to pick up blitzes better but do you really expect anything less?


Case did sling it but they were well off the mark

BullNation4Life
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
Case did sling it but they were well off the mark

I know, he has to learn to pick up blitz and hot reads as well. It seemed like he was having to throw well before he was ready to and was off badly...

Arizona just served up the Texans next opponent the blue print on how to shut down the Texans offense. Now it is the Texans coaches job to make adjustment in which we all know they won't do that...

steelbtexan
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
A blind, motarded monkey with no arms could protect the QB better than Newton....

an that is selling the monkey short...

This is Keenum's audition for the next head coach. Let the kid sling it around and see what happens. Offense needs to pick up blitzes better but do you really expect anything less?

This coming from a long time sunshiner?

BullNation4Life
11-10-2013, 07:11 PM
This coming from a long time sunshiner?

sunshiner? You sure about that? I think I have been quite adamant about how I feel about this team and they haven't been good...

steelbtexan
11-10-2013, 07:12 PM
Case did sling it but they were well off the mark

OL needs to protect better.

I just remembered BoB doesn't owe anybody anything, so status quo is fine. (Sarcasm:////)

2012Champs
11-10-2013, 07:28 PM
OL needs to protect better.

I just remembered BoB doesn't owe anybody anything, so status quo is fine. (Sarcasm:////)

He certainly doesn't owe you or I anything

buffalo2269
11-10-2013, 07:32 PM
This season sucks, ugh. I'm at the point where I'd rather see them just lose out and get a top 5 pick. From Super Bowl aspirations to just sucking instead. Disappointing.

My thoughts exactly when this game ended I thought immediately about draft position

EddyFree
11-10-2013, 07:36 PM
Are they THAT bad or is this the plan? Several quality players dropping like flies...Thoughts?

479

sometexansfan
11-10-2013, 07:37 PM
Are they THAT bad or is this the plan? Several quality players dropping like flies...Thoughts?

479

No, they just suck.

Thorn
11-10-2013, 07:39 PM
There are players on this team and are truly trying to win, so no, I don't think for a second they are tanking. They just aren't as good as we thought, and the coaching is horrible.

Goatcheese
11-10-2013, 07:42 PM
They're just not a good football team right now. The O-Line stinks. The Pro Bowl QB fell apart and his rookie replacement can't read a defense or run the offense smoothly. The linebackers without Cush range from whatever to so bad. With Manning out, the safeties are terrible. There's nothing behind J-Jo and K-Jax at corner. The RBs are injured.

The bright spots are basically the D-line starters are the WR corp.

Oh and special mention (thanks Mr. Texan) is our kicker. Seriously, how does he have a job? SO BAD.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 07:42 PM
i doubt randy bullock is missing fg's on purpose and risking his career in the nfl just so the texans get a good draft pick

steelbtexan
11-10-2013, 07:44 PM
He certainly doesn't owe you or I anything

Yep the fans dont deserve any better than they've gotten. This we can agree on. The only way to affect change is thru BoB's wallet and with all of the Aggies buying tickets, drinkin and BBQ'ing you know that's not going to happen.

BoB gave us Rick/Gary and we should just accept things for the way they are, after all we are just lowly fans. Remember BoB was friends with Bud and looked at him as a type of mentor.

BoB said this in an interview when speaking about Bud after the funeral on Channel 13.

hradhak
11-10-2013, 07:45 PM
I do think that this team is talented, just have a coaching staff that is making them look bad. Clean house, get some talented coaching, and get a few good draft picks and we'll be ok.

steelbtexan
11-10-2013, 07:47 PM
He certainly doesn't owe you or I anything

Who does BoB owe in your opinion?

Certianly not the fans who made him over a billion dollars over the last decade.

EddyFree
11-10-2013, 08:01 PM
i doubt randy bullock is missing fg's on purpose and risking his career in the nfl just so the texans get a good draft pick

Bullock needs to give the ball up, get in the stands and drink beer/eat popcorn with the rest of us and let Matt Shaub try those field goals!! Couldn't be any worse...

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 08:30 PM
Bullock needs to give the ball up, get in the stands and drink beer/eat popcorn with the rest of us and let Matt Shaub try those field goals!! Couldn't be any worse...

i bet he was sweating fish grease at the thought of kicking the game tying field goal again.

EddyFree
11-10-2013, 08:52 PM
i bet he was sweating fish grease at the thought of kicking the game tying field goal again.

Actually, *I* was "sweating fish grease" at the thought of him trying any kind of game tying/winning field goal again...:heat:

mattieuk
11-10-2013, 10:58 PM
Case didn't win the game for us. So, anybody want Schaub back? Not me. Case, for me, have proven beyond a doubt that he's better than Schaub. Maybe Case will end up being our starter for years to come, maybe he won't. But out of the three QBs on the team, Case is presently our best chance at winning.

I dont't want Schaub to start - I'll get that out of the way first. But at this point in time I feel that we don't yet know if Case is a better NFL QB.

I'm mindful of getting too worked up on Case for a few reasons. Firstly, in he simplest possible terms, Case is fun to watch, Schaub is not. Case is always runnin for his life, holding the ball for as long as possible and trying to extend plays. He is the absolute anti-Schaub in this respect. I'm not saying that either way of playing is better, we all know that the 'sensible' QB methodolgy can work, and we've also seen Eli, who for me has some strong similarities (especially when plays are brwkig down) to Case, get his rings.

Secondly, it is still early. We've seen a guy come in and off the bat, make a ton of plays, get his main playmaker involved in a way we've not seen before. We have also seen him fail to march the team downfield in game ending drives (for whatever reason) repeatedly and has a small fumbling issue.

I don't know if Case is necessarily our best chance of winning, but at this point in time, but I sure hell know which QB is going to keep me watching games in a season which has imploded.

By the end of the season we will have good read on what Case can do for us going forward and plan accordingly.

TheMatrix31
11-11-2013, 03:14 AM
I think a lot of the "Schaub Hatred", aside from his poor play earlier this year, stems from everyone seeing all these young, exciting, "running", "athletic" QBs doing all sorts of miraculous things and we simply got jealous. We wanted **our** guy to do that too. Our guy was slow, boring, unspectacular.

Just something I thought of while reading about Keenum's entertaining play.

thunderkyss
11-11-2013, 06:47 AM
I think a lot of the "Schaub Hatred", aside from his poor play earlier this year, stems from everyone seeing all these young, exciting, "running", "athletic" QBs doing all sorts of miraculous things and we simply got jealous. We wanted **our** guy to do that too. Our guy was slow, boring, unspectacular.

Just something I thought of while reading about Keenum's entertaining play.

I'm definitely not a Schaub hater & while I do enjoy watching play-making QBs, I was content knowing Schaub's game was "effectively" the same.


Until I saw Andrew Luck force our guys off-sides with his cadence... at Reliant. Then I was like, "I know Schaub's got his limitations, but that's something he should totally be able to do every now & then."

That's when I got envious.

HJam72
11-11-2013, 07:43 AM
I think a lot of the "Schaub Hatred", aside from his poor play earlier this year, stems from everyone seeing all these young, exciting, "running", "athletic" QBs doing all sorts of miraculous things and we simply got jealous. We wanted **our** guy to do that too. Our guy was slow, boring, unspectacular.

Just something I thought of while reading about Keenum's entertaining play.

Keenum may be more entertaining to watch, but it's his TD passes that are putting Schaub in the past. 5 of AJ's 59 career TDs have come in the last 2 games... :whip:

So, we have Keenum, AJ, Hopkins, Watt, and an injured Cushing, with Tate playing with 4 broken ribs. That's about it. Everybody else either needs replacing or at least at this point needs to get their head back on straight. One thing Keenum has not accomplished as the QB of this team yet is leadership, to be honest. A lot of this team is still playing like they are fed up with Schaub, when Schaub is not even out on the field.

2012Champs
11-11-2013, 08:33 AM
Who does BoB owe in your opinion?

Certianly not the fans who made him over a billion dollars over the last decade.



Im not sure Bob owes anyone but if he did it would possibly those who work for him. And no despite what you purchased from the Texans you dont deserve anything more than you get now

Seegara
11-11-2013, 09:56 AM
One improvement in play calling was that we didn't run on 2nd and 10. The long throw attempts on the last drive seemed unneeded and unwise.