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DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
Narrative: Keenum has thrown like, 3 almost-pick-sixes but no criticism.
Keenum throws almost pick 6's. Schaub throws the real pick 6's. I do agree that the trend is concerning to me.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
What more can they do? The OL is getting whipped on every play.

More play action bootlegs, the cure to bad o-line play

burro
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
UGGGH. This is painful. I think Dennison has survived a little too long as a placeholder Kubiak lackey. He's definitely not earning his pay with this play calling.

Premier
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
well if keenum makes the same mistakes hes making in his 3rd nfl game when hes a 6 year starter than we should worry.. but again, 3rd nfl game..

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
almost is the key word there, i almost hit all the #s on powerball the other night but them bastards still wont give me my 50 million :kitten:

Yeah but the "almost" comes from the Arizona defenders not holding onto the ball, not necessarily Keenum doing something to make sure it was "almost." Sooner or later, it's going to happen.

Look, I'm just trying to point out the inconsistencies in logic and analysis. There are narratives.

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
The second half collapse looming

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:25 PM
With Tate running the ball, the Texans have become one dimensional and the Cards are just teeing off on the pass rush. We need to see if the other backs can do something in the running game.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
Okay Swearinger, calm yourself bro.

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
"I love cactuses." :ok: That was random as hell.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
Yeah but the "almost" comes from the Arizona defenders not holding onto the ball, not necessarily Keenum doing something to make sure it was "almost." Sooner or later, it's going to happen.

Look, I'm just trying to point out the inconsistencies in logic and analysis. There are narratives.

this is the kids 3rd game, he isnt a 7-8 year vet like another on the sideline

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
Swearinger lookin like a good pick

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
More play action bootlegs, the cure to bad o-line playYou need a running game for the PA bootleg game to work.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:27 PM
Peterson probably asking for no more wildcat after getting tackled by Swearinger.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:27 PM
Yeah but the "almost" comes from the Arizona defenders not holding onto the ball, not necessarily Keenum doing something to make sure it was "almost." Sooner or later, it's going to happen.

Look, I'm just trying to point out the inconsistencies in logic and analysis. There are narratives.

100% agree.

"Almost is the key word" in this situation is just illogical.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:27 PM
this is the kids 3rd game, he isnt a 7-8 year vet like another on the sideline


Doesn't matter. Everyone's on Keenum's nuts like he's a 10 year, 3x Super Bowl-winning veteran so I'll treat him like one and point out the bull**** narratives when I see them.

Maybe this is my way of reminding everyone to pump their brakes on the kid.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:28 PM
gotta establish our run

OzzO
11-10-2013, 06:28 PM
JJo playing 2 below on that play

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:28 PM
Doesn't matter. Everyone's on Keenum's nuts like he's a 10 year, 3x Super Bowl-winning veteran so I'll treat him like one and point out the bull**** narratives when I see them.

Maybe this is my way of reminding everyone to pump their brakes on the kid.

no pick 6s so far so i cant pump the brakes

burro
11-10-2013, 06:28 PM
DJ getting nasty. He's like a Bernard Pollard who can cover.

steds
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Swearinger lookin like a good pick

Indeed. May well become a bit of a monster.

htownfan32
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Refs ****ing with us again.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Brice McCain ****ing sucks.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Just bench McCain. Please!!!

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Whew.....

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Flag on McCain

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:29 PM
mccain is fvcking terrible

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:30 PM
This game wearing me out

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:31 PM
that last penalty didn't help. keenum starting near the endzone seems a lot today.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:31 PM
Swearinger slows Mendenhall up in the backfield.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:31 PM
swearinger beastin

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
Nah, you're just being being your normal a-hole self. :kitten:

Why? Because I criticize when there's deserved criticism regardless of who's on the receiving end? I don't give a **** if it's Keenum or Schaub or Elway out there. I'm consistent with my criticisms and I get angry when hypocrisy is shown.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
Swearinger slows Mendenhall up in the backfield.And Brooke Reed whiffed on another tackle.

htownfan32
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
Nah, you're just being being your normal a-hole self. :kitten:

No, he's being reasonable. Keenum has played great but those near picks were dangerous throws. He needs to work on that.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:32 PM
foster is missed...

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:33 PM
Okay. That makes no sense to me. But ya okay. Continue jerking off to him. I better hear you bitching if/when he does. Some of the ridiculously dangerous passes he's thrown today WILL end up being picked off at some point. I'm just asking for consistency in criticism.

u said to pump the brakes cause 3 possible pick 6s that didnt happen, i simply said i cant pump the brakes over something that could of happened but didnt.

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:33 PM
I need a play

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:33 PM
No, he's being reasonable. Keenum has played great but those near picks were dangerous throws. He needs to work on that.

Thanks. I suppose in this era of unreasonable *******s everywhere, reasoned analysis and commentary is frowned upon.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
I want to see a lot more of Swearinger.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
i do like to see a QB anxious to go on the sidelines.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
u said to pump the brakes cause 3 possible pick 6s that didnt happen, i simply said i cant pump the brakes over something that could of happened but didnt.

Illogical. You do realize the if part is based on the Arizona defender completing the catch, nothing to do with Keenum. Strange way to look at things.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:34 PM
fullbacks returning kicks.

good job marciano

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
Thanks. I suppose in this era of unreasonable *******s everywhere, reasoned analysis and commentary is frowned upon.:) is that better? :kitten:

burro
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
Why? Because I criticize when there's deserved criticism regardless of who's on the receiving end? I don't give a **** if it's Keenum or Schaub or Elway out there. I'm consistent with my criticisms and I get angry when hypocrisy is shown.

If Schaub had thrown 2-3 TD passes a game to offset his mistakes, he probably wouldn't have caught as much flak. Thetruth is that the offense is much more productive under Keenum which makes his rookie mistakes easier to forgive. No one is perfect.

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
We need to get Jones to return from here on out.:)

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
Alright, lets get it going! This is getting nerve racking.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
Thanks. I suppose in this era of unreasonable *******s everywhere, reasoned analysis and commentary is frowned upon.

Been that way about specific subjects on this forum for some time. Don't let it bother you.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:35 PM
Swearinger on fire

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:36 PM
I want to see a lot more of Swearinger.
I don't. That means the wrong unit is on the field more. I want to see more of Keenum and someone not named Newton at RT.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:36 PM
Illogical. You do realize the if part is based on the Arizona defender completing the catch, nothing to do with Keenum. Strange way to look at things.

not really, u are looking at what could of been while i on the other hand look at what is.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Christ. Our offensive line is a DISASTER.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
If Schaub had thrown 2-3 TD passes a game to offset his mistakes, he probably wouldn't have caught as much flak. Thetruth is that the offense is much more productive under Keenum which makes his rookie mistakes easier to forgive. No one is perfect.

Also irrelevant. We aren't talking about Schaub anymore. Schaub is done.

We are trying to figure out if this QB we have is the future, particularly so we know how to view this upcoming draft.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
I don't. That means the wrong unit is on the field more. I want to see more of Keenum and someone not named Newton at RT.

Well, you know what I mean....good grief.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
see where is the play action/bootlegs....thats what i mean

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Crap 2nd qnd long

Tearstain
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Am pissed :(
Texans radio not working on the app I have.

All I get is the odd update on uk tv.

Going to kick the dog and go to bed (it's a joke about the dog)

Come on Tate I expect another 70 yards when I wake up.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Holy crap that was a helluva blitz!!!!

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:37 PM
not really, u are looking at what could of been while i on the other hand look at what is.

WOOOOOSHHHH

WAYYYYY over your head.

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Crap hope we dont need that TO later

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
This O-line is garbage. It makes me expect to see David Carr back there.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
i can't believe we thought we could win a SUPER BOWL with an offensive line this bad.

it really puts schaub in perspective

steds
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Did they even try to block Abraham there?

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Well, you know what I mean....good grief.
LOL I was just messing with you! :kitten:

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
This OL is SICK...........just plain Sick!!!!!!!!!!

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Come on Dennison. You have to find a way to burn the blitz. Seriously.

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 06:38 PM
I said it more than once in the preseason and I'll repeat it now - Why didn't we go after Abraham? Do we just not like guys that actually get sacks?

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Did they even try to block Abraham there?Looked like a blown blitz pick up by the RB.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
WOOOOOSHHHH

WAYYYYY over your head.

NO yes they were possible ints pick 6s, but they didnt happen.

dream_team
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Come on Dennison. You have to find a way to burn the blitz. Seriously.

Draws & Screens ... Draws & Screens!

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Wow... the inaugural season's o-line are laughing at this.

cstyle42
11-10-2013, 06:39 PM
We suck at 2nd half adjustments...

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:40 PM
This OL is SICK...........just plain Sick!!!!!!!!!!Write 'em a scrip, Doc. Something strong.

I said it more than once in the preseason and I'll repeat it now - Why didn't we go after Abraham? Do we just not like guys that actually get sacks?Probably due to a serious lack of cap space.

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Wade Smith went into the middle making it a triple team on a man that was already contained and let his man run through the hole he left!

EVOLVIST
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Thanks. I suppose in this era of unreasonable *******s everywhere, reasoned analysis and commentary is frowned upon.

You're right if you're saying that Keenum is not having as good a game as the first two games. I'm scratching my head at the play calling, too. The good news is that Keenum's passes have some real zing on 'em. The bad news is that nothing is open down the field and our Oline is getting creamed.

Case Keenum is about 50% on his passes now.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Looked like a blown blitz pick up by the RB.

Would have been difficult for the RB to make an impact on that play. The defender was in Keenum's face far too quickly.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Gotta get Keenum on the move again.

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
The OL finds blocking to be unimportant.

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Argh, Quick slant would have been nice.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
even with a more athletic qb with a better arm the o-line is STILL trash

burro
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
The short passes aren't working, let Case loose!

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
they are bringing the whole house on every play, how about a real screen with the RB ? Dennison out smarting himself ?

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Offense doesn't get any help because the offensive line sucks. The defense goes back on the field. They get tired. They're beat up anyway. They'll give up yards/TDs soon enough.

All starts with the offensive line.

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:41 PM
So I seen a mock draft had us taking........

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Lord, ST's tackling sux. Could've had him stopped for less thatn 10 yds and let him have 14.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
even with a more athletic qb with a better arm the o-line is STILL trash
Yes, but at least an athletic QB that can improvise and buy time has a fighting chance to make a play. Statues don't.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
They are forcing us to go to the quick passing game and we just aren't or they are in the QBs face too quickly for him to get the ball away.

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Probably due to a serious lack of cap space.

Wait, that can't be it. I've been told repeatedly what a good job our GM has done.

deucetx
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
i can't believe we thought we could win a SUPER BOWL with an offensive line this bad.

it really puts schaub in perspective

No, it doesn't since on most (if not all) of Schaub's int's he wasn't under pressure. He simply made poor decisions and reads. And let's forget about Schaub because he is basically done here. It would be silly for the Texans to not let him go this offseason due to his contract. There's little reason to even bring him up.

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
So two turnovers forced for three points?

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
The short passes aren't working, let Case loose!

This is what you say after a 5 step drop that was heavily and successfully blitzed?

Are you watching the same game I am?

We needed a quick/short passing play there in the area that was vacated by the blitz.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:43 PM
The short passes aren't working, let Case loose!I don't think that's the problem. Case doesn't have the time to throw it deep.

htownfan32
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
Next offensive drive I wanna see Keenum in the shotgun. Under center gives him no time to set his feet before the pass rush is in his face.

gtexan02
11-10-2013, 06:44 PM
What is case doing. These 2 yard out routes are embarrassing

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Next offensive drive I wanna see Keenum in the shotgun. Under center gives him no time to set his feet before the pass rush is in his face.I'll go with that!!

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
What is case doing. These 2 yard out routes are embarrassing

He's getting rid of the ball as soon as he can because our O-line is garbage and the alternative is getting sacked.

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Everyone else feels this one slipping away too, right? It's not just me?

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
The DL is not getting in there.

There's been so much to complain about the OL that I haven't had enough time to complain about anything else!:mariopalm:

burro
11-10-2013, 06:45 PM
I don't think that's the problem. Case doesn't have the time to throw it deep.

He would from shotgun with a fly pattern. That might be too radical for Dennison though...

steds
11-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Do they keep stats for penalties called on teams? We must be right up there.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Yes, but at least an athletic QB that can improvise and buy time has a fighting chance to make a play. Statues don't.

it's still contributing to losses

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Everyone else feels this one slipping away too, right? It's not just me?

The Cardinals had the Texans right where they wanted them at half time -- leading. That guarantees they will stink up the second half.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:46 PM
It's hard to overstate how much Cushing is missed.

gtexan02
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
He's getting rid of the ball as soon as he can because our O-line is garbage and the alternative is getting sacked.

He's not even looking downfield. He seems scared

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:47 PM
what's our rushing today?

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:48 PM
It's hard to overstate how much Cushing is missed.

Yes it is, BIG time!

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:48 PM
Harris has had a couple of nice breakups today.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
harris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mccain

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
Harris is looking good today.

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
Good play by Harris.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
wow redzone D getting a stop

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
Need a td case

burro
11-10-2013, 06:49 PM
He's not even looking downfield. He seems scared

I'm not getting that. There is no fetal position to speak of.

Uncle Rico
11-10-2013, 06:50 PM
Lol, that's right funnel the hate towards Dennison now!

SMH

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 06:50 PM
How do you expect Keenum to do anything when he has NO OL and we have 50 yds total rushing (of which 17 are by Keenum)?

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:50 PM
Bullock, and 15 consecutive made will never be mentioned in the same sentence.

Brisco_County
11-10-2013, 06:50 PM
This O-line just looks bad. No protection, can't run the ball.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:51 PM
This O-line just looks bad.

It doesn't just LOOK bad... it is bad!

gwallaia
11-10-2013, 06:52 PM
Can we do anything in the 2nd half of games?

otisbean
11-10-2013, 06:52 PM
How do you expect Keenum to do anything when he has NO OL and we have 50 yds total rushing (of which 17 or by Keenum)?

Agreed.

gtexan02
11-10-2013, 06:52 PM
How do you expect Keenum to do anything when he has NO OL and we have 50 yds total rushing (of which 17 or by Keenum)?

And why was the OL not an excuse for schaub? This double standard bc you like one more than the other isn't useful
I'm holding all qbs to the same standard -- this has not been a good game by case for the past 2 quarters

chicagotexan2
11-10-2013, 06:53 PM
Everyone else feels this one slipping away too, right? It's not just me?

The run blocking is a freaking joke.

Austrian
11-10-2013, 06:53 PM
Bullock, and 15 consecutive made will never be mentioned in the same sentence.

15 consecutive shanks? :kitten:

Dishman
11-10-2013, 06:54 PM
And why was the OL not an excuse for schaub?
I'm holding all qbs to the same standard -- this has not been a good game by case for the past 2 quarters

Not a good game by the Texans basically.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:54 PM
And why was the OL not an excuse for schaub?
I'm holding all qbs to the same standard -- this has not been a good game by case for the past 2 quarters

I think we said the O-line was trash there, too. But we also thought that Schaub was the last guy you want in there with a trash O-line. And the post-PTSD Schaub combined with a trash O-line led to pick-sixes (four games in a row!) and terrible decision-making.

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 06:54 PM
And why was the OL not an excuse for schaub?

It is (was). Schaub actually played worse with more experience and Arian Foster helping him out.

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
Yes a first down

chicagotexan2
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
The texans would be awesome if games were only 2 quarters long.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
Very nice zip there, Case.

burro
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
The running game/oline is looking very 2006-07. Horrible.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:55 PM
keep pounding the rock

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:56 PM
Should have went to Jones for the 1st down.

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:56 PM
15 consecutive shanks? :kitten:

touche'

burro
11-10-2013, 06:56 PM
The running game/oline is looking very 2006-07. Horrible.

As soon as I say something...

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
Ahahahahahahaha offensive line is terrible

teeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiii iiiiiibbbbbbbbbbbbblllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeee

DocBar
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
WTF??? No roughing call on that?

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
Nice blocking.

texanhead08
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
guess who got beat again

False Start
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
What in the flying F!

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
Right side of the line gets beat for an easy sack. These guys are terrible.

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
I'm smelling 2-7. Starting to get that 2-14 feeling. Why can't Dennison see the freaking blitzes coming?

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
You have to make quick throws in that situation. Trying to outrun free bltizers is just not going to work.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
whew we need a screen, what the hell is dennison thinking. They are bringing the house every single play

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
That Abraham guy is pretty good. Maybe we should have tried to pick him up when he was a free agent this offseason.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:57 PM
THAT was one of the few plays where it would have been better to have Schaub in there. He would have crumbled with a 6-yard loss instead of keeping the play alive for a loss of 22.

htownfan32
11-10-2013, 06:58 PM
Turtle mode would have been better than "let's try to emulate Johnny Manziel" there. Should have just thrown it away, but that's rookie mistakes. Case still has leeway with me, but he needs to learn from this game.

gwallaia
11-10-2013, 06:58 PM
All of our draft picks will have to be used on the o-line.

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 06:58 PM
This playcalling is atrocious. Empty on 3rd & 3? That's just stupid.

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 06:58 PM
What the hell is with this team in the second half.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 06:58 PM
nice o line. cmon 2 on the right side?

steds
11-10-2013, 06:58 PM
O-line :toropalm:

OzzO
11-10-2013, 06:59 PM
What is that term you guys used to describe Schaub? Turtle Mode or whatever?

No, I think it was consecutive pick 6 mode... or whatever.

Ah, you edited to "nice blocking"

Premier
11-10-2013, 06:59 PM
He's not even looking downfield. He seems scared

welp you see all those guys surrounding andre, probably why hes not forcing it downfield..

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 06:59 PM
whew we need a screen, what the hell is dennison thinking. They are bringing the house every single play

I said last week that the only time we ever see a draw play is 3rd and forever, when the other team knows that's what's going to be run. They never run it when the other team might actually be blitzing. And I can't remember the last time we saw a HB screen play.

Don't think they know any blitz beater plays.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 06:59 PM
Turtle mode would have been better than "let's try to emulate Johnny Manziel" there. Should have just thrown it away, but that's rookie mistakes. Case still has leeway with me, but he needs to learn from this game.

He didn't even have time to throw it away. That play was an example of when it occasionally *is* the best decision to just immediately flop to the ground.

dtran04
11-10-2013, 06:59 PM
Not sure why teams don't all out blitz more often. Case isn't good at pre-determined hot reads. Likes to extend and improvise instead.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
This playcalling is atrocious. Empty on 3rd & 3? That's just stupid.

yep especially since AZ has brought every guy they can to rush our guy the last 20 plays. Lord the difference in play calling is night and day between kubiak and dennison.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
I said last week that the only time we ever see a draw play is 3rd and forever, when the other team knows that's what's going to be run. They never run it when the other team might actually be blitzing. And I can't remember the last time we saw a HB screen play.

Don't think they know any blitz beater plays.

this

GuerillaBlack
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
You have to make quick throws in that situation. Trying to outrun free bltizers is just not going to work.

Serious? What could he have done there?

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
What the hell is with this team in the second half.What is pathetic? Jeopardy style answer.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
What the hell is with this team in the second half.

When a team so consistently stinks in the second half, I put it on getting outcoached badly in the adjustment department.

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
I said last week that the only time we ever see a draw play is 3rd and forever, when the other team knows that's what's going to be run. They never run it when the other team might actually be blitzing. And I can't remember the last time we saw a HB screen play.

Don't think they know any blitz beater plays.

Apparently not. Very very frustrating.

sandmanx
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
This team is just plain bad. They will be lucky to win 5 games this year.

Premier
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
He didn't even have time to throw it away. That play was an example of when it occasionally *is* the best decision to just immediately flop to the ground.

yup where schaub excels would have only been a 6 yard loss with matt. but we would be down right now 32-3..

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 07:00 PM
-6 yards in the 2nd half. This looks all too familiar.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 07:01 PM
Not sure why teams don't all out blitz more often. Case isn't good at pre-determined hot reads. Likes to extend and improvise instead.

hot reads mean that 1 guy needs to be watched. that was more than 1 close to case.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 07:01 PM
doesn't matter who the qb is. this team has way more flaws than just the qb. (which is what i've been trying to say the past year)

cstyle42
11-10-2013, 07:01 PM
this

This good ol boy system did nothing but get our players hurt...

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:01 PM
Defense is gassed. Gonna be a long rest of the 4th.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 07:01 PM
Serious? What could he have done there?

Throw it quick on a hot route when there are 7-8 guys on the LOS showing blitz on a 3rd and short. It's a pretty standard football play.

steds
11-10-2013, 07:01 PM
Anyone fancy tackling?

Uncle Rico
11-10-2013, 07:02 PM
Keenum cant handle the blitz. He should be making Arizona pay for blitzing.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 07:02 PM
if you can produce this much in 1st half and not do anything in the 2nd, coaching is bad. especially if its consistent.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:02 PM
Well at least AZ has some pretty good play calling at the right time, Dennison is not a good O.C

houstonspartan
11-10-2013, 07:02 PM
This team is just plain bad. They will be lucky to win 5 games this year.

Correct. And the head coach will get an extension and massive raise. Real talk.


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Premier
11-10-2013, 07:02 PM
Not sure why teams don't all out blitz more often. Case isn't good at pre-determined hot reads. Likes to extend and improvise instead.

hes also missing his TE and RB who provide that option..

ATXtexanfan
11-10-2013, 07:02 PM
Man this is getting old

htownfan32
11-10-2013, 07:02 PM
I'm done. I've got a paper needs doing. Even if we win I'm still insanely pissed at the O-line play. Hope we pull this one out.

Brisco_County
11-10-2013, 07:03 PM
And why was the OL not an excuse for schaub? This double standard bc you like one more than the other isn't useful
I'm holding all qbs to the same standard -- this has not been a good game by case for the past 2 quarters


Schaub became a liability despite seven year of experience.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 07:03 PM
Wow Mercilus, that was PATHETIC.

Stemp
11-10-2013, 07:04 PM
if you can produce this much in 1st half and not do anything in the 2nd, coaching is bad. especially if its consistent.

We are missing Kubiak's playcalling.

And I don't know what Wade is doing with the defense,but it's awful.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 07:04 PM
Crappy offense leads to tired, crappy defense.

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 07:04 PM
I'm sorry Case Keenum or no Case Keenum, I can't get excited about this franchise anymore. It has ruined my fandom. Maybe if there is a regime change but right now I feel so defeated.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 07:04 PM
-4 yards in the 2nd half :mariopalm:

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:05 PM
well this is sad....

steds
11-10-2013, 07:05 PM
I'd forgotten Eric Winston played for Arizona now. Oh, what I'd give for him to be back

Thorn
11-10-2013, 07:05 PM
Sucks to be us. If the Texans were in charge of WWII we'd all be speaking German right now.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 07:05 PM
This is a coaching staff which has NO answer to the defensive adjustments the opponent makes at halftime. Then the offense three-and-outs all second half, and at some point the defense is so tired that it just gets its ass handed to them in the fourth quarter.

The O-line may suck, but when you consistently play reasonably well in the first half and get outscored 107-19 in the second half in the last 6+ games, it's all about coaching and lack of proper adjustment.

PS -- McCain sucks.

RTP2110
11-10-2013, 07:05 PM
More of the same with this team this season, changes are needed.

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 07:05 PM
Texans blitz NEVER gets home. Worst fkn blitzers ever. And I'd say stop blitzing, but then the QB would just pick them apart on the back end anyway, because the secondary sucks also.

CretorFrigg
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
This team pisses me off.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
mccain lmfaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

burro
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
Crappy offense leads to tired, crappy defense.

Basically this. Between the god awful pass blocking and tackling like fairies, this game may get away from us (if it hasn't already).

mussop
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
How funny. We are down by three and this board is freaking out.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
McCain toasted

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
McCain beat on that TD? Of course.

False Start
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/florida-1.gif

RTP2110
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
The field could be 200 yards long, and Arizona would have had a TD drive there.

Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
That's all folks.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
Mccain is still out there, where is Harris who has been making plays all game

TEXANRED
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
and the 3rd pick in the draft the houston texans take a&m ot jake matthews.

eriadoc
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
Kinda surprised it was McCain that got beat there.


not

Wolf
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
Wow defense is so offensive

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 07:06 PM
I hate Brice McCain more than I hate John McCain and his whore daughter---COMBINED.

gwallaia
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
I don't think our players care anymore. I think they are all happy to be millionaires.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
How funny. We are down by three and this board is freaking out.

whats that.....jk

Topher
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
Super lame.

chicagotexan2
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
This is going to be 7 lossss in a row. Good lord what a sorry season.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
How funny. We are down by three and this board is freaking out.That would be down by 10. Try to keep up, please. :kitten:

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
McCain slipped. if you blitz, you gotta stay on your man.

burro
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
Burnt McCain strikes again.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 07:07 PM
case 0-3 as a starter :kitten:

CretorFrigg
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
Our defense is so predictable. Even a guy like me with no football knowledge knows that our defense is going to play man-to-man, and the safeties are either going to play in the box or stay deep.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
I don't think our players care anymore. I think they are all happy to be millionaires.

Sure looks that way on defense.

steds
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
"He put it up where his guy could get it". What, ANYWHERE in McCain's general direction?

mussop
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
McCain is so bad.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
Mccain is still out there, where is Harris who has been making plays all gameHarris is playing the slot and McCain is attempting to play KJ's spot.

Dishman
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
How funny. We are down by three and this board is freaking out.

Hmm...

TexansBlood
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
I guess I was the only one worried about the 2nd half. Same ****, different Sunday.

Only 1 touchdown in the 2nd half in the last 6 games. Garbage.

powda
11-10-2013, 07:08 PM
People named Brice should be in a lab not on a football field.

legacy_gt
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
you know the play is going to be a blitz, how you gonna get beat that far?

bash
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
Announcer "brice mccain beat by roberts"


FACT


Announcer "brice mccain beat by anybody"

False Start
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
Sucks to be us. If the Texans were in charge of WWII we'd all be speaking German right now.

:lol:

Sad, but true.

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
if you can produce this much in 1st half and not do anything in the 2nd, coaching is bad. especially if its consistent.

It's all coaching. We make no adjustments. Their rookie Safety (Mathieu) pointed it out in an interview this week. If a rookie defender is noticing things like that.....

Teams just play back in the 1st half and see what we do. Then gameplan for that in the 2nd half. We don't change a damn thing. 3 weeks in a row now that we haven't done a thing in the 2nd half.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
Burnt McCain strikes again.Do you mean Brice McBurnt?

bckey
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
It's all coaching. We make no adjustments. Their rookie Safety (Mathieu) pointed it out in an interview this week. If a rookie defender is noticing things like that.....

Teams just play back in the 1st half and see what we do. Then gameplan for that in the 2nd half. We don't change a damn thing. 3 weeks in a row now that we haven't done a thing in the 2nd half.




Our team is really bad. They make guys like Palmer and Mendenhall look great. OL is pathetic. Blow this mess up and start with a whole new coaching staff next year.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
case 0-3 as a starter :kitten:

With 4 TDs and NO interceptions.

dream_team
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
Wait... I thought all of our teams' problems were due to Schaub?

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:09 PM
gotta score fast,,,,recover a fumble on D, throw a TD to Hopkins and win 31-27 :) i can wish

Big Lou
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
Apparently I don't know what a block in the back is because it's not when the kicking team is covering a kick and a defender pushes them down from the back.

Brisco_County
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
I hate Brice McCain more than I hate John McCain and his whore daughter---COMBINED.


This is what's called "showing character under pressure."

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
It's all coaching. We make no adjustments. Their rookie Safety (Mathieu) pointed it out in an interview this week. If a rookie defender is noticing things like that.....

Teams just play back in the 1st half and see what we do. Then gameplan for that in the 2nd half. We don't change a damn thing. 3 weeks in a row now that we haven't done a thing in the 2nd half.Do you have a link to that?

TexansBlood
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
case 0-3 as a starter :kitten:

And not a single touchdown in 3 games in the 4th quarter.

Premier
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
should have brought back alan ball. mccain is doodoo.. hes just a warm body on the field, he brings nothing to this defense..

houstonspartan
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
As I said last week, where is the "Let's rally for the coach!" fire? They supposedly love their coach like a dad, and NO ONE can pull the team together??????


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Pantherstang84
11-10-2013, 07:10 PM
Our team is really bad. They make guys like Palmer and Mendenhall look great. OL is pathetic. Blow this mess up and start with a whole new coaching staff next year.

I approve this message.

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:11 PM
Wait... I thought all of our teams' problems were due to Schaub?

Na i dont remember anyone ever saying he was the defenses red zone issues, our the ST issues, he was his on major issue though.

Mr. Texan
11-10-2013, 07:12 PM
just need a td here.

cmon case :cow:

gtexan02
11-10-2013, 07:12 PM
Now out scored 107-19 in second half
Over last 6 games. That's scheme, not skill.
We need a total house cleaning

EllisUnit
11-10-2013, 07:12 PM
finally a well timed draw, maybe to little to late but still

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 07:13 PM
Now out scored 107-19 in second half
Over last 6 games. That's scheme, not skill.
We need a total house cleaning

Yep, There are real problems on the field, but this screams coaching problems and inability to adjust to the other team's adjustments. I mean, it's not like a different team is out there in the second half.

WolverineFan
11-10-2013, 07:13 PM
Do you have a link to that?

The announcers mentioned it during the broadcast.

Dishman
11-10-2013, 07:14 PM
Now out scored 107-19 in second half
Over last 6 games. That's scheme, not skill.
We need a total house cleaning

I hope the same sentiment is shared by McNair.

Mr teX
11-10-2013, 07:14 PM
It's all coaching. We make no adjustments. Their rookie Safety (Mathieu) pointed it out in an interview this week. If a rookie defender is noticing things like that.....

Teams just play back in the 1st half and see what we do. Then gameplan for that in the 2nd half. We don't change a damn thing. 3 weeks in a row now that we haven't done a thing in the 2nd half.

Try 6 weeks in a row....they've spewed that stat about us only scoring 1 TD in the 2nd half over the last 6 games 23456 times today

CloakNNNdagger
11-10-2013, 07:14 PM
OUR lazy ass OL. Keenum was trying to hurry up things while they all waddles up to the line.

TexansSeminole
11-10-2013, 07:14 PM
Yeah, Case is promising but he needs to work on beating the blitz. He is getting killed by it.

DocBar
11-10-2013, 07:14 PM
Wade Smith never even saw that blitzer.

TheMatrix31
11-10-2013, 07:14 PM
Nice protection bro.

Nice throw bro.

houstonspartan
11-10-2013, 07:14 PM
Now out scored 107-19 in second half
Over last 6 games. That's scheme, not skill.
We need a total house cleaning

Yep.


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False Start
11-10-2013, 07:15 PM
Cue Don Meredith.

ziggy29
11-10-2013, 07:15 PM
Yeah, Case is promising but he needs to work on beating the blitz. He is getting killed by it.

I don't know that the staff even has any blitz-beater plays to dial up in their playbook.

burro
11-10-2013, 07:15 PM
John Benton should be fired tomorrow.