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kingtexan
11-06-2013, 01:16 PM
After watching MS stand there sulking for two games wearing his helmet on the sideline ... hiding under it, while his team is out there battling for Case in a way they never would have for him ... now I get it. I have never been a Schaub supporter, but also thought the fans were acting foolish for going at him the way they did. I don't anymore. Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with. Matt Schaub is the definition of a loser.

Carr Bombed
11-06-2013, 01:30 PM
I blame the team more.. nobody likes to lose their job, it's got to be even worse when you lose your job and aren't allowed a pink slip. The team could've avoided all of this by simply I.R.ing Schaub.

I also wouldn't call him the "definition of a loser". He just is limited in what he can physically do, but he still wants to be out there. Again could have avoided all of it by placing him on I.R. I still appreciate his service to the team.. regardless if he was just a bridge from a horrible QB to a possible franchise QB.

Big Lou
11-06-2013, 01:35 PM
After watching MS stand there sulking for two games wearing his helmet on the sideline ... hiding under it, while his team is out there battling for Case in a way they never would have for him ... now I get it. I have never been a Schaub supporter, but also thought the fans were acting foolish for going at him the way they did. I don't anymore. Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with. Matt Schaub is the definition of a loser.

I understand being mad at Schaub but running him out of town is a little much. I don't know him personally but I'm guessing that describes 99.9999% of this board so lets go easy on truely hating the guy. Its one thing to be glad we are going a new direction its another to attack the guy as a person.

Did you hate him when he was throwing for 300+ yards and winning games? I'm not defending him, I'm glad to see Case get a shot, but I dislike his football, I don't hate him as a person.

Lord Bills
11-06-2013, 01:38 PM
I blame the team more.. nobody likes to lose their job, it's got to be even worse when you lose your job and aren't allowed a pink slip. The team could've avoided all of this by simply I.R.ing Schaub.

I also wouldn't call him the "definition of a loser". He just is limited in what he can physically do, but he still wants to be out there. Again could have avoided all of it by placing him on I.R.

the team? that's pretty vague. I blame Kubiak more. He let the situation get out of hand for schaub and the fans. Kubiak should have benched schaub sooner and not let it get to the point of high frustration for all parties involved including the fans to the point that they are booing him when he got injured, jeering him in his house, making cut schaub signs on the freeway, the burger name etc...

Kubiak should have benched schaub, let him take a break, watch from the sidelines, get a different perspective on the moment and let him gather his thoughts and let him regroup.

Instead he kept the status quo and showing undying loyalty to a fault and the fans and his embattled quarterback responded accordingly, negatively.

Schaub cant change who he is, but gary has the power to change who his quarterback is.

Double Barrel
11-06-2013, 01:46 PM
I believe he was wearing his helmet during offensive drives in order to hear the calls going out to Case.

A buddy of mine at the last game said Schaub often took his helmet off during breaks and when the Texans defense was on the field.

HOU-TEX
11-06-2013, 01:47 PM
:rolleyes: Geez, some people take sports way too far. Dislike the 'player' as much as you like, but it's ignorant talking like this about a guy and his family over bad performances on the field.

I've never met the guy, but he seems like a great person off the field.

mussop
11-06-2013, 01:48 PM
Throwing ice?

deucetx
11-06-2013, 01:49 PM
:rolleyes: Geez, some people take sports way too far. Dislike the 'player' as much as you like, but it's ignorant talking like this about a guy and his family over bad performances on the field.

I've never met the guy, but he seems like a great person off the field.

Have to agree. Run him out of town why? I love my football, my teams, etc. But I am not going to put it to the point where I want a guy out of town as if he has done wrong for a city. Schaub has given to the community and ran some successful charities. So I have no issue for someone who has been good to our city even if their play sucked on the field. It's not that serious.

Runner
11-06-2013, 01:52 PM
I believe he was wearing his helmet during offensive drives in order to hear the calls going out to Case.

A buddy of mine at the last game said Schaub often took his helmet off during breaks and when the Texans defense was on the field.

That is correct. I was **gasp** at the Colt's game, and he stood pretty much in front of us. He was listening to the plays on offense. The helmet was off any other time.

I did wonder why he was so isolated from everyone else on the team though. Pouting, or giving Keenum space to lead? I'm a positive guy, so I'll go with the latter.

Hervoyel
11-06-2013, 01:53 PM
All Schaub ever did was play to the limits of his ability, save a bunch of Texans fans money by sticking with #8, and play so much better than David Carr that we finally knew what it was like to watch an NFL offense on the field.

He improved the team immensely when he came here. Was he the answer to the Super Bowl question? No and that's unfortunate but he tried and I don't hate him. I just want to see Case Keenum keep moving in the pocket and hitting wide open WR's deep. Doesn't mean I have any animosity towards Matt Schaub. Hell, if he works on his diction and stuff I'd perfectly content to hear him calling Texans games one day on the radio.

AMartin56
11-06-2013, 01:55 PM
the team? that's pretty vague. I blame Kubiak more. He let the situation get out of hand for schaub and the fans. Kubiak should have benched schaub sooner and not let it get to the point of high frustration for all parties involved including the fans to the point that they are booing him when he got injured, jeering him in his house, making cut schaub signs on the freeway, the burger name etc...

Kubiak should have benched schaub, let him take a break, watch from the sidelines, get a different perspective on the moment and let him gather his thoughts and let him regroup.

Instead he kept the status quo and showing undying loyalty to a fault and the fans and his embattled quarterback responded accordingly, negatively.

Schaub cant change who he is, but gary has the power to change who his quarterback is.

This is 100% correct IMO.

Honoring Earl 34
11-06-2013, 02:02 PM
That is correct. I was **gasp** at the Colt's game, and he stood pretty much in front of us. He was listening to the plays on offense. The helmet was off any other time.

I did wonder why he was so isolated from everyone else on the team though. Pouting, or giving Keenum space to lead? I'm a positive guy, so I'll go with the latter.

I saw him warm up with AJ once during the game . I actually thought he was coming in and worse , it wouldn't have surprised me .

Thorn
11-06-2013, 02:08 PM
Schaub and his days are over with, let him be. They can't realistically do anything with him now that the trading deadline is over with, and he is a better backup than Yates. Might as well get used to him walking the sidelines here, it's his last season as a player here anyway.

I just don't have the dislike for him that I used to knowing that Keenum is the starter now.

Brisco_County
11-06-2013, 02:11 PM
After watching MS stand there sulking for two games wearing his helmet on the sideline ... hiding under it, while his team is out there battling for Case in a way they never would have for him ... now I get it. I have never been a Schaub supporter, but also thought the fans were acting foolish for going at him the way they did. I don't anymore. Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with. Matt Schaub is the definition of a loser.

You mean losers are the first to show up to work, and the last to leave? Losers break passing records and lead a team to a 12-4 record? I've had my criticisms of Schaub, and he needs to go, but reel in the hyperbole. He's done good things for this fanbase.

FYI, throwing ice or any object at anyone at a game is unaccetable. People should get booted for that.

kingtexan
11-06-2013, 02:13 PM
it's ignorant talking like this about a guy and his family over bad performances on the field.


So you would rather his kids live here and endure the ridicule that is sure to come their way in school? Would rather his family not be able to go out to dinner or shopping without hearing the comments about how we had a chance at a Superbowl, but "that guy" blew it for us? Ok, guess I am ignorant ...

kingtexan
11-06-2013, 02:18 PM
You mean losers are the first to show up to work, and the last to leave? Losers break passing records and lead a team to a 12-4 record?

First of all there are people in every type of profession who keep their jobs simply for being the ones that "come in first and leave last", without ever contributing anything in between. It, like Schaubs stats, is one of the most overrated things in history. That being said, he wouldnt have those stats without receivers making acrobatic catches to make up for his lack of accuracy. The team went 12-4 ... the receivers put up nice receiving yards, in spite of Matt ... Matt was the beneficiary of a lot of others people skills, making up for his lack of having any.

Runner
11-06-2013, 02:27 PM
So you would rather his kids live here and endure the ridicule that is sure to come their way in school? Would rather his family not be able to go out to dinner or shopping without hearing the comments about how we had a chance at a Superbowl, but "that guy" blew it for us? Ok, guess I am ignorant ...

Oh - it's for the children!

I thought it was because:

Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with.

Somehow I got the wrong impression from reading you own words.

TexanBacker93
11-06-2013, 02:30 PM
I blame the team more.. nobody likes to lose their job, it's got to be even worse when you lose your job and aren't allowed a pink slip. The team could've avoided all of this by simply I.R.ing Schaub.

I also wouldn't call him the "definition of a loser". He just is limited in what he can physically do, but he still wants to be out there. Again could have avoided all of it by placing him on I.R. I still appreciate his service to the team.. regardless if he was just a bridge from a horrible QB to a possible franchise QB.

You said it perfectly. They should have done the IR move to save him some face. Yeah, he's struggled and I want him off the roster and give the team to Case as much as anyone. It's not because he's a loser, though. His contract doesn't afford us the luxury of keeping him around as a backup and we could use that money elsewhere. He was a solid starter for this team and helped us go from laughingstocks to SB contenders. The rails fell off this season, but it doesn't feel like 2005. There wasn't a lot of talent on that team. This team has talent. A change at QB and hopefully a change at HC or at least a philosophical adjustment and we have a chance to get back our place next season.

kingtexan
11-06-2013, 02:32 PM
Somehow I got the wrong impression from reading you own words.

It's, ok ... with a little practice you can improve ... :fingergun:

mattieuk
11-06-2013, 02:43 PM
Have to agree. Run him out of town why? I love my football, my teams, etc. But I am not going to put it to the point where I want a guy out of town as if he has done wrong for a city. Schaub has given to the community and ran some successful charities. So I have no issue for someone who has been good to our city even if their play sucked on the field. It's not that serious.

Spot on - all he has ever done is give his best for the team, and produced a lot more successfully than any other QB the Texans has had. He's a standup guy by all reports and has never caused a distraction to the team off the field.

The guy can be disliked for the ability that he doesn't have in a professional sense (which is more the fauly of the coaching staff/organisation) - but to run someone out of town, or hurl abuse/ice at him whilst he's standing on the sideline watching someone else lead what used to be his team, knowing that he's likely finished as a starter (which may have been prevented by playing him on IR, letting Case shine and gracefully releasing him at season end) in the NFL is pathetic. Such special treatment should be for people who actaully deserve it - the ones who have the rap sheets and disrespectful attitude to the fans and the city, if ever it should be dished out. Schaub's only crime was not being quite good enough to get them one step further in the playoffs.

infantrycak
11-06-2013, 03:45 PM
I believe he was wearing his helmet during offensive drives in order to hear the calls going out to Case.

A buddy of mine at the last game said Schaub often took his helmet off during breaks and when the Texans defense was on the field.

Yup. Frankly kind of ignorant by the OP to think wearing his helmet was sulking.

Runner - your more optimistic interpretation is the correct one IMO of Schaub giving Case space to work. That was the right thing to do and should be applauded not criticized.

All Schaub ever did was play to the limits of his ability, save a bunch of Texans fans money by sticking with #8, and play so much better than David Carr that we finally knew what it was like to watch an NFL offense on the field.

He improved the team immensely when he came here. Was he the answer to the Super Bowl question? No and that's unfortunate but he tried and I don't hate him. I just want to see Case Keenum keep moving in the pocket and hitting wide open WR's deep. Doesn't mean I have any animosity towards Matt Schaub. Hell, if he works on his diction and stuff I'd perfectly content to hear him calling Texans games one day on the radio.

Spot on.

So you would rather his kids live here and endure the ridicule that is sure to come their way in school? Would rather his family not be able to go out to dinner or shopping without hearing the comments about how we had a chance at a Superbowl, but "that guy" blew it for us? Ok, guess I am ignorant ...

Please, please don't pretend you have any concern for his family.

I would have picked disingenuous rather than ignorant but we can go with both.

HJam72
11-06-2013, 04:33 PM
I'm so glad I never bought a #8 jersey, LOL.

AMartin56
11-06-2013, 04:40 PM
Seriously though. The potential for backlash from the fans seems obvious. Why didn't he just wear a headset? The reality of listening into the play calls made by Kubiak doesn't change the fact that he looked like a pouting dork on national TV. When I've seen Yates in a similar role he is wearing a headset and engaging with other people on the sideline. The helmet wasn't a wise fashion choice.

But whatever...I like Schaub a lot more as a person now that his career with the Texans is probably over. Would have been nice if Kubiak could have made that decision before Schaub contributed so greatly to our ruined season and became public enemy #1 though.

HOU-TEX
11-06-2013, 04:46 PM
Doesn't look like he's sulking here. Looks like he's into the game and fired up with this catch by Hops

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYa2vXxCEAAcC4d.jpg:large

Hervoyel
11-06-2013, 04:48 PM
I'm so glad I never bought a #8 jersey, LOL.

I got a couple of them. I'm not sad I spent the money. I got quite a few years of service out of them.

It's time to go get some #7's though. My guy in China's already cranking them out

:fans:

chenjy9
11-06-2013, 05:23 PM
Running the guy out of town is overly harsh. I don't know him personally, but by all accounts, Schaub seems to be a good fellow human being. As a Texans fan, I am simply relieved beyond all possible imagination that he is no longer the starting QB and I won't develop any ulcers watching him play on my beloved football team. Outside of that, I could care less what he does or where he goes as long as it doesn't affect the Texans. Stay in Houston, move to the end of the world, go to the moon? It's all good to me as long as someone else is playing QB.

Double Barrel
11-06-2013, 05:24 PM
Doesn't look like he's sulking here. Looks like he's into the game and fired up with this catch by Hops


What you cannot see is that both middle fingers are extended and he's yelling "EFF YOU CASE!!!"

Kidding of course.

Great find, though. I have heard nothing but positive things about Schaub as it pertains to helping Case as the starter. I would expect nothing less from Schaub, as he has always exemplified professionalism as a Houston Texan.

Sad how so many fans are unable to be objective and have to make it personal against the man. Reminds me of my grandpa telling me to never befriend a known backstabber, because that pat on the back might be looking for a soft spot to plant the knife.

silvrhand
11-06-2013, 05:27 PM
After watching MS stand there sulking for two games wearing his helmet on the sideline ... hiding under it, while his team is out there battling for Case in a way they never would have for him ... now I get it. I have never been a Schaub supporter, but also thought the fans were acting foolish for going at him the way they did. I don't anymore. Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with. Matt Schaub is the definition of a loser.

Seriously, I have not been a Schaub lover, but he has done well here far better than we had when he got here.

- he seems like a pretty decent guy.
- they are both very active in the community.

I'm not sure why you think running him out of town is a great idea, have some respect for the effort and time he's put into our team.

cuppacoffee
11-06-2013, 05:30 PM
Doesn't look like he's sulking here. Looks like he's into the game and fired up with this catch by Hops

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYa2vXxCEAAcC4d.jpg:large



Who you goina believe, kingtexan or your lying eyes. :)

:coffee:

kingtexan
11-06-2013, 07:04 PM
Why didn't he just wear a headset? The reality of listening into the play calls made by Kubiak doesn't change the fact that he looked like a pouting dork on national TV. When I've seen Yates in a similar role he is wearing a headset and engaging with other people on the sideline.


Careful, they might hear you ...

Ghostform
11-06-2013, 08:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SlmL5Mk.jpg

DBCooper
11-06-2013, 09:08 PM
Is this an example of the great body language interpretation we need TSA to use to find terrorists?

Or am I totally in the wrong section?

silvrhand
11-06-2013, 09:25 PM
I'm not sure what people expect when a starting QB gets demoted, and is no longer the starting QB. It's going to take a while for Matt to either find his new role, or move on from the team.

I can't imagine how hard is to lose the starting QB role. Give him a break he's trying to find his role, and not interfere with what's going on with Case. Give him a couple weeks and let's see what he's going to do.

maddogmrb
11-06-2013, 09:31 PM
:rolleyes: Geez, some people take sports way too far. Dislike the 'player' as much as you like, but it's ignorant talking like this about a guy and his family over bad performances on the field.

I've never met the guy, but he seems like a great person off the field.

100% Agree ... KingTexan is way out of line with this post.

MEGA SWATT
11-06-2013, 09:43 PM
Who is Matt Schaub?

MEGA SWATT
11-06-2013, 09:48 PM
Who you goina believe, kingtexan or your lying eyes. :)

:coffee:

All I see is Tafoya in her lil' tights:chef::evil:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYa2vXxCEAAcC4d.jpg:large[/QUOTE]

http://i.imgur.com/SlmL5Mk.jpg

ArlingtonTexan
11-06-2013, 09:59 PM
Is this an example of the great body language interpretation we need TSA to use to find terrorists?

Or am I totally in the wrong section?


Well, it is about as silly and as effective...

anyway, schuab was a weird body language/facial expression player when he the productive, clear leader of the team. Add poor performance and getting replaced is not going to help that out any.

chicagotexan2
11-06-2013, 10:38 PM
I have been upfront and vocal about hoping Schaub never plays QB here again. He's simply no longer a good QB for the texÓns. I expect him to be very pissed about knowing he's done here but I also expect him go be a professional. But there is no reason I would want him out of houston. He has been a positive figure in the community and is very charitable. If I ever saw him I won't go asking for a pic and autograph but I would never insult him or his family either. Some people need to get a better grip on reality. The texans are my favorite team, entertainers and show but that's all it is. At the end of the season good or bad I get ready for the next one. Who the phu@k throws ice? That's the behavior of idiot children.

Fred
11-06-2013, 10:39 PM
So you would rather his kids live here and endure the ridicule that is sure to come their way in school? Would rather his family not be able to go out to dinner or shopping without hearing the comments about how we had a chance at a Superbowl, but "that guy" blew it for us? Ok, guess I am ignorant ...

Problem identified! Good job!

Seriously, what kind of an asshat would raise their kids to bully Schaub's kids? And he "blew" the Superbowl for the Texans? Without him the Texans NEVER would have made the playoffs.

After 6 years of being the best QB ever in Texans history his body broke down, and he has been replaced and you think he and his family should never be allowed to show their faces in Houston again because people will bully them and give them crap? Not that many people are Richie Incognito or you.

RagingBull
11-06-2013, 11:23 PM
I want to be done with the Schaub era as much as anyone, but some of you guys are being way to harsh.

Schaub has done a lot of good for this team, and before his injury, was in the discussion as a top 10 QB. He had a terrible injury thanks to that DB Haynesworth that he has not been able to recover from, and never will.

I would much rather thank him for all he has done on his way out than treat him like he is a piece of trash. Even Kubiak figured this out and made a very uncharacteristic change in the middle of the season.

I understand that people are pissed that the season has not lived up to our hyped up expectations, but after all it is really JUST a game, not real life. Even JJ spoke about football not being real life after Kubiak had the stroke, and he is as intense and into football as they come.

Brisco_County
11-06-2013, 11:48 PM
First of all there are people in every type of profession who keep their jobs simply for being the ones that "come in first and leave last", without ever contributing anything in between. It, like Schaubs stats, is one of the most overrated things in history. That being said, he wouldnt have those stats without receivers making acrobatic catches to make up for his lack of accuracy. The team went 12-4 ... the receivers put up nice receiving yards, in spite of Matt ... Matt was the beneficiary of a lot of others people skills, making up for his lack of having any.

You're going from guardrail to guardrail with the hyperbole. That's fine if you want to privately simmer in your own unchallenged opinion, but to broadcast it here without acknowledging facts is unfair to players who deserve credit for what they've honestly accomplished. Matt Schaub worked his ass off for a winning record for this team and fanbase. He fell short, and he needed to move on, but he deserves credit where it's due -- not uninformed knee-jerkers spreading the sentiment that he's a loser.

Stated more eloquently:

All Schaub ever did was play to the limits of his ability, save a bunch of Texans fans money by sticking with #8, and play so much better than David Carr that we finally knew what it was like to watch an NFL offense on the field.

He improved the team immensely when he came here.

I have some advice for the OP: Go out in the world and put your ass on the line to try to accomplish something big. Really put it out there. If you succeed, then congrats. You've joined the 0.01% of the world who've experienced success without failure, and hopefully you don't join the disproportionate suicide rate of lottery winners. If you fail, note the people on the sideline who hold that failure against you, and note how they'll never attempt anything worth a damn in their entire lives. All they ever produce are cheap, verbal attempts to elevate themselves over anyone they see stumble. Just criticize, drink beer, and marry the fat chick no one else wanted.

And then note that Matt Schaub's wife is hot.

mussop
11-07-2013, 12:19 AM
I think we have finally identified the "fan" that showed up at Schaubs house. :clap:

TexansSeminole
11-07-2013, 12:32 AM
Some people are just nasty human beings. Clearly, this is an example.

Norg
11-07-2013, 01:27 AM
schaub was a good QB that's all I can really say what was it 2010 we were like 9-2 before he got hurt then we win like 12 wins right I forget

anways tho sad thing is we kinda still need schaub right now if case goes down :knocks on wood" then guess who steps right on in LOL

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 06:47 AM
And he "blew" the Superbowl for the Texans? Without him the Texans NEVER would have made the playoffs.



May want to go back to watching figure skating there skippy, apparently football is beyond you ...

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 06:49 AM
You're going from guardrail to guardrail with the hyperbole. That's fine if you want to privately simmer in your own unchallenged opinion, but to broadcast it here without acknowledging facts is unfair to players who deserve credit for what they've honestly accomplished. Matt Schaub worked his ass off for a winning record for this team and fanbase. He fell short, and he needed to move on, but he deserves credit where it's due -- not uninformed knee-jerkers spreading the sentiment that he's a loser.

Stated more eloquently:



I have some advice for the OP: Go out in the world and put your ass on the line to try to accomplish something big. Really put it out there. If you succeed, then congrats. You've joined the 0.01% of the world who've experienced success without failure, and hopefully you don't join the disproportionate suicide rate of lottery winners. If you fail, note the people on the sideline who hold that failure against you, and note how they'll never attempt anything worth a damn in their entire lives. All they ever produce are cheap, verbal attempts to elevate themselves over anyone they see stumble. Just criticize, drink beer, and marry the fat chick no one else wanted.

And then note that Matt Schaub's wife is hot.

You mad bro?

buddyboy
11-07-2013, 07:52 AM
So you would rather his kids live here and endure the ridicule that is sure to come their way in school? Would rather his family not be able to go out to dinner or shopping without hearing the comments about how we had a chance at a Superbowl, but "that guy" blew it for us? Ok, guess I am ignorant ...

http://danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/think-of-the-children.jpg

OP throws out his argument, notices everyone disagrees, tries to backpedal, and now just taking shots at other posters and classic "you mad bro" liners. A+, would read again. Please never stop making threads.

chicagotexan2
11-07-2013, 08:02 AM
May want to go back to watching figure skating there skippy, apparently football is beyond you ...

You may want to go back to yelling at the children you coach at the fun fair football league that you obviously dominate with your motivational pep talks and infinate football acumen. Schaub was terrible this season, there is no doubt about that. I for one am glad he's done, but he was only one of the many issues this team still has that's keeping it from being a winner. Did you bet your life savings on the Texans making it to the Super Bowl? I hope you don't choke on a large chunk of ice, lord knows the world would miss your insight Mr. real life R. Lee Ermy.

Brisco_County
11-07-2013, 08:46 AM
You mad bro?

Tell us again about how Schaub and his family need to be run out of town.

The situation would seemingly be awkward for the second-year pro in his relationship with Matt Schaub, who was playing poorly before getting hurt, but Keenum insisted Schaub has handled the transition in classy fashion.

“He couldn’t be a better guy through the whole thing,” Keenum said. “I’m extremely proud to know him. He’s still giving advice without me asking, just being there for me for whatever I need. I can’t say enough about him. He’s one of the best guys I know. I’m really fortunate to have him in our quarterback room.”

Keenum said Schaub helps him “every day. It’s in between plays in practices, on the sideline, watching film in the morning, all that stuff. It’s constant.”

Link (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/11/awkward-between-keenum-schaub-no-way-texans-starting-qb-says/).

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 09:34 AM
Tell us again about how Schaub and his family need to be run out of town.



Link (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/11/awkward-between-keenum-schaub-no-way-texans-starting-qb-says/).

I love when people quote players that are currently playing for the team. Do you expect them to say anything negative? Really? :rolleyes:

Also like that everyone jumps on me when I state the obvious. Matt Schaub and his family will be leaving town ... that is just a fact. Anyone who would like to put a wager on it not happening I will gladly take all bets.

Carry on internet tough folks. :ahhaha:

IlliniJen
11-07-2013, 10:13 AM
I love when people quote players that are currently playing for the team. Do you expect them to say anything negative? Really? :rolleyes:

Also like that everyone jumps on me when I state the obvious. Matt Schaub and his family will be leaving town ... that is just a fact. Anyone who would like to put a wager on it not happening I will gladly take all bets.

Carry on internet tough folks. :ahhaha:

http://images.wikia.com/cardfight/images/9/9c/It_gave_me_cancer.jpg

Brisco_County
11-07-2013, 10:13 AM
I love when people quote players that are currently playing for the team. Do you expect them to say anything negative? Really? :rolleyes:

Also like that everyone jumps on me when I state the obvious. Matt Schaub and his family will be leaving town ... that is just a fact. Anyone who would like to put a wager on it not happening I will gladly take all bets.

Carry on internet tough folks. :ahhaha:

So Machiavellian Case Keenum is blowing smoke with falsely effusive praise of his predecessor. Well, that's one way to interpret it.

Your words:

After watching MS stand there sulking for two games wearing his helmet on the sideline ... hiding under it, while his team is out there battling for Case in a way they never would have for him

Do you stick by that intrepetation when considering that Matt had his helmet on to listen to the plays being called, and consulted Keenum between plays? Do you commend Schaub for that, or do you think he was still sulking?

... now I get it. I have never been a Schaub supporter, but also thought the fans were acting foolish for going at him the way they did. I don't anymore. Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with. Matt Schaub is the definition of a loser.

Internet tough guy, why don't you keep condoning throwing ice at players.

revan
11-07-2013, 10:18 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XPCxL3ggDzA/T1dpC1Jl3QI/AAAAAAAABkU/ZCcm5SfTlUU/s1600/Neil-deGrasse-Tyson-we-got-a-bad-ass-over-here-meme.png

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 10:19 AM
Do you stick by that intrepetation when considering that Matt had his helmet on to listen to the plays being called, and consulted Keenum between plays? Do you commend Schaub for that, or do you think he was still sulking?

You can listen to the plays through a head-set, like Yates does. I stick to my statement.

DocBar
11-07-2013, 10:22 AM
:popcorn:

dream_team
11-07-2013, 10:28 AM
After watching MS stand there sulking for two games wearing his helmet on the sideline ... hiding under it, while his team is out there battling for Case in a way they never would have for him ... now I get it. I have never been a Schaub supporter, but also thought the fans were acting foolish for going at him the way they did. I don't anymore. Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with. Matt Schaub is the definition of a loser.

I don't know what games you're watching... but I'm still watching the Texans lose with Keenum in there. I'm still seeing the defense give up long TD drives. I'm still seeing a lack of pass rush. I'm still seeing dumb penalties by the secondary. I'm still seeing McCain getting picked on in single coverage. I'm still seeing Bullock miss field goals. I'm still seeing poor return coverage by the STs. I'm seeing a running game not as productive with Keenum (mostly due to injuries though). If players are 'battling for Case', unfortunately the outcome is exactly the same, compared to not battling for Schaub.

TBH, if there are players not playing hard because Schaub is at QB, do we really want those players on the team? I want players that give it their all, no matter the situation.

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 10:33 AM
I don't know what games you're watching... but I'm still watching the Texans lose with Keenum in there. I'm still seeing the defense give up long TD drives. I'm still seeing a lack of pass rush. I'm still seeing dumb penalties by the secondary. I'm still seeing McCain getting picked on in single coverage. I'm still seeing Bullock miss field goals. I'm still seeing poor return coverage by the STs. I'm seeing a running game not as productive with Keenum (mostly due to injuries though).

TBH, if there are players not playing hard because Schaub is at QB, do we really want those players on the team? I want players that give it their all, no matter the situation.

Not that the players weren't playing hard necessarily, but just were deflated and discouraged from knowing whatever they did to get the lead, Matt would blow it. When I say battling in a way they didn't for Matt, I am talking about being pumped up to actually have a real opportunity to win. Are there other issues on the team? Sure. But anyone can see the last game that it was a different vibe.

Hervoyel
11-07-2013, 10:41 AM
It's momentum and the Texans had it and were responding as a team to it. That momentum came from Keenum and AJ. When the Colts adjusted and we couldn't keep drives alive the momentum shifted back to the Colts.

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 10:57 AM
It's momentum and the Texans had it and were responding as a team to it. That momentum came from Keenum and AJ. When the Colts adjusted and we couldn't keep drives alive the momentum shifted back to the Colts.

Maybe, but having Cushing tell Smith they needed to get a turnover and score to win the game because "they aint gonna do it", while looking out at the offense, tells me all I need to know about the true support Matt had. C'mon people, the players have to hold the company line, but they aren't idiots. They can see why we were losing the games after having leads, over and over again ...

Vance87
11-07-2013, 11:36 AM
You can listen to the plays through a head-set, like Yates does. I stick to my statement.

Maybe, but having Cushing tell Smith they needed to get a turnover and score to win the game because "they aint gonna do it", while looking out at the offense, tells me all I need to know about the true support Matt had. C'mon people, the players have to hold the company line, but they aren't idiots. They can see why we were losing the games after having leads, over and over again ...

I agree with the above.

Hervoyel
11-07-2013, 11:39 AM
Maybe, but having Cushing tell Smith they needed to get a turnover and score to win the game because "they aint gonna do it", while looking out at the offense, tells me all I need to know about the true support Matt had. C'mon people, the players have to hold the company line, but they aren't idiots. They can see why we were losing the games after having leads, over and over again ...

Granted. The Schaub-led offense did nothing to generate momentum.

Double Barrel
11-07-2013, 11:48 AM
Maybe, but having Cushing tell Smith they needed to get a turnover and score to win the game because "they aint gonna do it", while looking out at the offense, tells me all I need to know about the true support Matt had. C'mon people, the players have to hold the company line, but they aren't idiots. They can see why we were losing the games after having leads, over and over again ...

No doubt that the team sees its QB throwing pick 6's like he's throwing beads in a Mardi Gras parade and loses confidence in him.

However, that does not explain why the defense goes out there and makes boneheaded decisions and costly penalties that do nothing but add to the meltdown. Every week we see this so-called "no. 1 defense" extend opponent's drives with stupid penalties. We see them in a zone coverage getting beat deep with an 18 point lead to protect. We see them making mistakes that cannot be put on Schaub, but point directly back at themselves and their coaching staff.

2013 has seen many aspects of this team crumble apart, not just at QB. Schaub certainly earned his bench time, no doubt about it. But let's not act like he's the only player who has failed this team this season. There is plenty of blame to go around.

HOU-TEX
11-07-2013, 11:51 AM
Granted. The Schaub-led offense did nothing to generate momentum.

And the Cushing/Watt led defense did nothing to prevent 90+ yard drives in a hand full of games. I'm no making excuses for Matt, but let's face it, the fail of the season is on all 3 phases.

We've got some work to do this offseason. Hopefully the next 8 games will decide how we'll look at the QB position in the draft. I'll be pulling for Case and actually look forward to seeing him play.

And for the love of Pete, can we wipe out the entire ST staff!!

**Damn, figures DB would beat me to it. Ha

ObsiWan
11-07-2013, 12:01 PM
No doubt that the team sees its QB throwing pick 6's like he's throwing beads in a Mardi Gras parade and loses confidence in him.

However, that does not explain why the defense goes out there and makes boneheaded decisions and costly penalties that do nothing but add to the meltdown. Every week we see this so-called "no. 1 defense" extend opponent's drives with stupid penalties. We see them in a zone coverage getting beat deep with an 18 point lead to protect. We see them making mistakes that cannot be put on Schaub, but point directly back at themselves and their coaching staff.

2013 has seen many aspects of this team crumble apart, not just at QB. Schaub certainly earned his bench time, no doubt about it. But let's not act like he's the only player who has failed this team this season. There is plenty of blame to go around.

Thank you.
MSR.

AMartin56
11-07-2013, 12:21 PM
I think it's amusing when Schaub supporters point to the multiple points of failure on this team to deflect blame from the QB position and yet often the same people won't admit that it's reasonable to want to hold the coach accountable when the whole team starts to suck.

If the whole team comes out flat or fails to play a full four quarters of good football on a consistent basis is it more reasonable to assume that it's due to the entire roster deciding to stink up the joint in unison? Or is it more likely we have a problem with management?

ChampionTexan
11-07-2013, 12:23 PM
2013 has seen many aspects of this team crumble apart, not just at QB. Schaub certainly earned his bench time, no doubt about it. But let's not act like he's the only player who has failed this team this season. There is plenty of blame to go around.

Witness the fact that we've seen a new QB come in, and perform very, very well. Well to the tune of a 118 passer rating and a 4/0 TD/Interception ratio. Well to the tune that after two games, he's improved pretty much every area that was previously a problem. No interceptions (much less pick 6's), a bunch of plays down the field, many TD's to AJ, mobility in the pocket, an ability to generate some yards with his legs when the circumstances demand, and a "it" factor that in the mind of most has to some extent mentally and emotionally rejuvenated many of the other players. And to this point these improvements have come without him bringing any glaring weaknesses to the table.

Yet his record as a starting QB is 0-2.

Dutchrudder
11-07-2013, 12:29 PM
If Win/Loss records were all that mattered in selecting a QB, Vince Young would be our starter right now.

ChampionTexan
11-07-2013, 12:31 PM
If Win/Loss records were all that mattered in selecting a QB, Vince Young would be our starter right now.

Agreed. So what?

Hervoyel
11-07-2013, 12:38 PM
And the Cushing/Watt led defense did nothing to prevent 90+ yard drives in a hand full of games. I'm no making excuses for Matt, but let's face it, the fail of the season is on all 3 phases.

We've got some work to do this offseason. Hopefully the next 8 games will decide how we'll look at the QB position in the draft. I'll be pulling for Case and actually look forward to seeing him play.

And for the love of Pete, can we wipe out the entire ST staff!!

**Damn, figures DB would beat me to it. Ha

Thank you.
MSR.

Both true. Plenty of people asleep at the wheel this year in all three phases of the game.

Dutchrudder
11-07-2013, 12:41 PM
Agreed. So what?

I'm agreeing with the train of thought, don't hold Case's record against him The guy put the team in a position to win, and they didn't. That's what you want out of a QB. He's not Schaub'ing it up out there, so you can't put the loss on him.

DBCooper
11-07-2013, 12:46 PM
Maybe, but having Cushing tell Smith they needed to get a turnover and score to win the game because "they aint gonna do it", while looking out at the offense, tells me all I need to know about the true support Matt had. C'mon people, the players have to hold the company line, but they aren't idiots. They can see why we were losing the games after having leads, over and over again ...

So, what happened when Keenum was up 24-6?

Brisco_County
11-07-2013, 12:54 PM
The same story about Schaub helping out Keenum is on the NBC Sports page, and one of the commenters offered the following anecdote.

Schaub is a nice guy. When he was in Atlanta, I saw him at Hole In The Wall in Buckhead. We hung out for a while doing Jeager shots. And he was nice enough to pick up the tab.

Followed by:

The game lasts a little while. Character lasts a lifetime – and brings rewards worth more than money. Good on you, Matt Schaub.

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/07/case-keenum-says-matt-schaub-couldnt-be-a-better-guy/).

Any player that wants to hang out with fans and do shots of Jaeg is ok in my book.

HOU-TEX
11-07-2013, 01:30 PM
I think it's amusing when Schaub supporters point to the multiple points of failure on this team to deflect blame from the QB position and yet often the same people won't admit that it's reasonable to want to hold the coach accountable when the whole team starts to suck.

If the whole team comes out flat or fails to play a full four quarters of good football on a consistent basis is it more reasonable to assume that it's due to the entire roster deciding to stink up the joint in unison? Or is it more likely we have a problem with management?

Both true. Plenty of people asleep at the wheel this year in all three phases of the game.

Yet, when we make light of it we're called _______ supporters.

I think everyone on this MB is aware of Schaub and Kubiaks failures, but realize there's more to it.

FWIW, I'm a supporter of the Houston Texans. Not ________ player/coach. I have favorite player, which 98% of the time are defensive players.

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 02:18 PM
So, what happened when Keenum was up 24-6?

Gary Kubiak had a stroke ...

DBCooper
11-07-2013, 02:27 PM
Gary Kubiak had a stroke ...

What about all the other games where our defense has been walked over?

DBCooper
11-07-2013, 02:27 PM
I know some fans I'd like to throw ice at.

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 02:28 PM
What about all the other games where our defense has been walked over?

Most of the games I have watched, we were up, or at least within striking distance, and Matt went pick-6. Was I just dreaming that? Doesn't give the defense a free pass for sloppy play, but just saying ...

In KC our O-line was either figured out, or just wore out in the end and Case had no chance.

In both of Cases games he had us in position to win. In Matt's games he cost us the chance to win.

Hervoyel
11-07-2013, 02:56 PM
It's a team sport and there are so many ways in which the offense affects the defense and vice-versa. The offense gets all over another team and they make that team one dimensional giving the defense an advantage. The offense stops scoring like ours has done in the second half and the whole team can lose momentum. That affects the defense too. The defense can't stop anyone and they put pressure on the offense to score every time and keep pace (we saw that a lot back in the Richard Smith/Frank Bush days).

In KC we had no running game and couldn't keep the KC defense honest in the second half. Eventually when you can pin your ears back every down you're going to work out how to beat the other teams OL.

Against Indy the Texans offense couldn't finish drives in the second half and their kicker couldn't even get them the FG. The defense held up for a quarter of this BS and then collapsed in the fourth. You're not going to shut down teams like the Colts (QB's like Luck) very often or for very long. Even with the Colts finally figuring out our defense Bullock could have prevented that loss with a couple of FG's. Keenum and the offense could have held that loss at bay with one more TD drive.

Not trying to excuse the defense their failure, just saying that in the NFL we watch today, in 2013 you're going to have to score a little more often than we are (particularly in the second half) to win much of the time.

DBCooper
11-07-2013, 02:57 PM
Most of the games I have watched, we were up, or at least within striking distance, and Matt went pick-6. Was I just dreaming that? Doesn't give the defense a free pass for sloppy play, but just saying ...

In KC our O-line was either figured out, or just wore out in the end and Case had no chance.

In both of Cases games he had us in position to win. In Matt's games he cost us the chance to win.

Ok, you've convinced me, Matt Schaub is the devil.

Still wondering why 33% of our losses this year came in games Schaub did not play..........

Hervoyel
11-07-2013, 03:05 PM
"33%" sure does look lot bigger than "2"

kingtexan
11-07-2013, 03:12 PM
"33%" sure does look lot bigger than "2"

Exactly what I was thinking ... lol.

These are some funny folks on this board.

:bubbles:

DBCooper
11-07-2013, 03:24 PM
Exactly what I was thinking ... lol.

These are some funny folks on this board.

:bubbles:

Exactly what I was thinking.

EllisUnit
11-07-2013, 06:55 PM
So in short you are saying he should be exiled from the city of houston ? Kinda harsh aint it, just ask god what happens when you exile someone :kitten: could be bad......


;) bad joke ?

DocBar
11-07-2013, 07:43 PM
Ok, you've convinced me, Matt Schaub is the devil.

Still wondering why 33% of our losses this year came in games Schaub did not play..........I can tell you it wasn't because of the QB. :chef:

EllisUnit
11-07-2013, 07:49 PM
I can tell you it wasn't because of the QB. :chef:

yep, i will give you a clue, might be hard to figure out "D is the first letter and E is the last letter" well and out kicker has also helped out...

DocBar
11-07-2013, 07:56 PM
yep, i will give you a clue, might be hard to figure out "D is the first letter and E is the last letter" well and out kicker has also helped out...One thing that drove me crazy in the Colt's game was when we went for it deep in Colts territory instead of taking the 3 points.

It's like Kubiak got all caught up in the hope and change BS and decided to go against just about everything he ever, ever does. AT the time, I was OK with it and thought it was ballsy. Hindsight seeing 3 missed field goals makes me much less than OK with it.

I agree that our Efense hasn't been what it needs to be. There's been serious lapses in D.

EllisUnit
11-07-2013, 08:02 PM
One thing that drove me crazy in the Colt's game was when we went for it deep in Colts territory instead of taking the 3 points.

It's like Kubiak got all caught up in the hope and change BS and decided to go against just about everything he ever, ever does. AT the time, I was OK with it and thought it was ballsy. Hindsight seeing 3 missed field goals makes me much less than OK with it.

I agree that our Efense hasn't been what it needs to be. There's been serious lapses in D.

yeah i liked the call, who could of ever guessed fatty would go on to miss 3 FGs. Win some lose some, i am actually refreshed to see Kubiak being aggressive even though it didnt pay off this time i think it will in the long run if he keeps it up.

BullBlitz
11-07-2013, 08:09 PM
After watching MS stand there sulking for two games wearing his helmet on the sideline ... hiding under it, while his team is out there battling for Case in a way they never would have for him ... now I get it. I have never been a Schaub supporter, but also thought the fans were acting foolish for going at him the way they did. I don't anymore. Just want him and his family out of Houston as soon as possible so we can began the process of forgetting we ever had the misfortune of having him here to begin with. Matt Schaub is the definition of a loser.

You don't know what he's going through. Pipe down.

EllisUnit
11-07-2013, 08:33 PM
You don't know what he's going through. Pipe down.

WOOOOWWWWWW after all this hate you have thrown his way in the past, when things finally hit rock bottom you defend him ? hmmmm some of you make me think i have a PHD in WTF.

houstonhurricane
11-08-2013, 07:08 AM
So you would rather his kids live here and endure the ridicule that is sure to come their way in school? Would rather his family not be able to go out to dinner or shopping without hearing the comments about how we had a chance at a Superbowl, but "that guy" blew it for us? Ok, guess I am ignorant ...

Yes, yes you are. Thanks for making that easy...

Double Barrel
11-08-2013, 10:22 AM
One thing that drove me crazy in the Colt's game was when we went for it deep in Colts territory instead of taking the 3 points.

It's like Kubiak got all caught up in the hope and change BS and decided to go against just about everything he ever, ever does. AT the time, I was OK with it and thought it was ballsy. Hindsight seeing 3 missed field goals makes me much less than OK with it.

I agree that our Efense hasn't been what it needs to be. There's been serious lapses in D.

This decision has not been talked about much (that I have seen), but it was a boneheaded decision not to take the easy points, especially that early in the game. It felt desperate at the time, and then looked foolish when they failed to get one freakin' yard.

Didn't they run Tate, too? Need 1 yard so send in the guy with 4 broken ribs. Yeah, that makes sense.

EVOLVIST
11-08-2013, 05:10 PM
Schaub's only crime was not being quite good enough to get them one step further in the playoffs.

Not so fast! Lest we forget Flashdance Schaub He's a maniac!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/EVOLVIST/45e5b94d-db81-4d07-8de3-6ed316d39653_zps0fe67c67.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/EVOLVIST/media/45e5b94d-db81-4d07-8de3-6ed316d39653_zps0fe67c67.jpg.html)



Schaub doesn' think assault charges will stick

FLOWERY BRANCH - Atlanta Falcons backup quarterback Matt Schaub doesn't think his arrest early Saturday morning on misdemeanor assault and battery charges will keep him off the football field this season.

Prior to his release from jail in Charlottesville, Va., Schaub appeared before a magistrate judge, but no court date was set.

"This will not affect my ability to play for the Falcons," Schaub said after practice Monday.

According to a police report, a 19-year-old male named Marc Schottenger claimed that Schaub was one of three men who beat him up at approximately 1 a.m. Schottenger, the alleged victim, took out a warrant against all three, but Schaub was the only person he could identify.

Police Sgt. Stephen Upman said the other two men, who fled the scene, still have outstanding warrants.

Schaub, 23, traveled to Virginia during the Falcons' off week to attend the Cavaliers' 16-0 victory over Maryland. A third-round pick in the NFL draft nearly seven months ago, Schaub insisted that his lawyer advised him not to offer any details when speaking with reporters.

"I think once all the facts are sorted out, you'll find out that I'll be exonerated," Schaub said. "I can say this - I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't touch anyone. I didn't threaten to touch anyone."

http://savannahnow.com/stories/110804/2571491.shtml

As for Schottinger, "I had no idea who Matt Schaub was," Schottinger testified. That didn't prevent him from calling Schaub "Schwab."

"It was stupid," Schottinger admitted. He testified that a polo-wearing friend of Schaub's stood between the two men and that Schaub reached around "Pink Polo" and slapped Schottinger in the face.

"I kept saying the Schwab financial analyst thing, and he came around his friend again and tried to put me in a headlock," said Schottinger. "We stood there in disbelief."

According to Schottinger, the group encountered Schaub and his friend in the pink polo again in front of the Buffalo Wing Factory when they went back to retrieve another pal.

There, claimed Schottinger, "Schaub walked up to me and punched me in the mouth... And Pink Polo punched me in the cheek."

When Schottinger tried to call 911, he testified, the bouncer grabbed his phone twice and then punched him in the nose. Gushing blood, Schottinger flagged down a police officer. When Schottinger got out of the hospital, Schaub was the only alleged assailant he could identify, and he went to the magistrate and swore out a warrant.

http://www.readthehook.com/96493/news-acquitted-its-schaub-not-schwab


Didn't they run Tate, too? Need 1 yard so send in the guy with 4 broken ribs. Yeah, that makes sense.

What doesn't make sense is running a stretch play to pick up every 2-1, 3-1, 4-1. Run it up the gut every once in awhile for God's sake!

kingtexan
11-09-2013, 05:50 AM
http://savannahnow.com/stories/110804/2571491.shtml



http://www.readthehook.com/96493/news-acquitted-its-schaub-not-schwab






Eeyore punching someone is hilarious. Talking about it is even funnier. It would be like admitting you got your ass kicked by a girl. :scarygirl:

chicagotexan2
11-09-2013, 09:06 AM
Not so fast! Lest we forget Flashdance Schaub He's a maniac!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/EVOLVIST/45e5b94d-db81-4d07-8de3-6ed316d39653_zps0fe67c67.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/EVOLVIST/media/45e5b94d-db81-4d07-8de3-6ed316d39653_zps0fe67c67.jpg.html)





http://savannahnow.com/stories/110804/2571491.shtml



http://www.readthehook.com/96493/news-acquitted-its-schaub-not-schwab




What doesn't make sense is running a stretch play to pick up every 2-1, 3-1, 4-1. Run it up the gut every once in awhile for God's sake!


I had no idea saved by the bell had a football episode starring screech?

No as far as the fight we know this mans claims are total bs. An arm swing by Schaub would mess up your hair but it wouldn't draw blood.

Seegara
11-09-2013, 07:32 PM
No doubt that the team sees its QB throwing pick 6's like he's throwing beads in a Mardi Gras parade and loses confidence in him.

However, that does not explain why the defense goes out there and makes boneheaded decisions and costly penalties that do nothing but add to the meltdown. Every week we see this so-called "no. 1 defense" extend opponent's drives with stupid penalties. We see them in a zone coverage getting beat deep with an 18 point lead to protect. We see them making mistakes that cannot be put on Schaub, but point directly back at themselves and their coaching staff.

2013 has seen many aspects of this team crumble apart, not just at QB. Schaub certainly earned his bench time, no doubt about it. But let's not act like he's the only player who has failed this team this season. There is plenty of blame to go around.
This secondary is wide open for the homerun ball every single time, even if the only concern is preventing an opponent from scoring instantly. You have to wonder about all this celebrated defensive coaching. Word must be getting around. A team with a QB who can throw deep will beat the Texans every time.

Texecutioner
11-09-2013, 07:39 PM
Ok, guess I am ignorant ...

Extremely. Several people have explained this to you when they really shouldn't have had to break it down that easily for you, but apparently you still aren't making the connection at all.

DocBar
11-09-2013, 09:40 PM
This secondary is wide open for the homerun ball every single time, even if the only concern is preventing an opponent from scoring instantly. You have to wonder about all this celebrated defensive coaching. Word must be getting around. A team with a QB who can throw deep will beat the Texans every time.Yeah, giving up 158 YPG is horrible. QB's are just slinging it against us. Being 19th or so in the NFL against the run couldn't have anything to do with it.

Big pass plays have hurt us in pass D, as have penalties. Don't make it sound like QB's are feasting on our D. Don't ignore the fact that there have been 7 TD's given up between pick 6's, ST and fumbles. That's 42 points. The Texans have lost 3 games by a combined 7 points.

The defense definitely needs to be better, but it's not exactly Swiss cheese. Like the offense, they need to put together 4 quarters a game of good defense. It wouldn't hurt for the ST's to make some sort of positive splash besides Lechler dropping punts inside the 20.

kingtexan
11-10-2013, 09:17 AM
Extremely. Several people have explained this to you when they really shouldn't have had to break it down that easily for you, but apparently you still aren't making the connection at all.

Write complete sentences much?

Please replace the photo of Duvall with Pee Wee Herman ... Thanks.

DBCooper
11-10-2013, 11:22 AM
Write complete sentences much?

Please replace the photo of Duvall with Pee Wee Herman ... Thanks.

Pee Wee would still have a better stance than you.

Texecutioner
11-10-2013, 01:55 PM
Write complete sentences much?

Please replace the photo of Duvall with Pee Wee Herman ... Thanks.

Pee Wee Herman would ***** slap you for half the stuff you spew in here. This thread is just another fine example of it.

kingtexan
11-10-2013, 03:15 PM
Pee Wee would still have a better stance than you.

Pee Wee Herman would ***** slap you for half the stuff you spew in here. This thread is just another fine example of it.

Cute. You two wear matching skirts and share lemonade?

DBCooper
11-10-2013, 04:00 PM
Cute. You two wear matching skirts and share lemonade?

I don't know if he wears skirts, but I'd definetely buy him a drink!

Runner
12-06-2013, 08:05 AM
I believe he was wearing his helmet during offensive drives in order to hear the calls going out to Case.

A buddy of mine at the last game said Schaub often took his helmet off during breaks and when the Texans defense was on the field.

I just wanted to point out that I saw that Keenum wore his helmet on the sideline to listen to the play calls when Schaub took over. This helmet thing was over-blown, as many suggested.