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corytx8
11-03-2013, 10:09 PM
This guy has to go......

RTP2110
11-03-2013, 10:11 PM
There has to be a better FA kicker out there

eriadoc
11-03-2013, 10:12 PM
As I said when the Kris Brown v. Rackers debate was raging, if I have to choose between leg and accuracy, give me accuracy. You can plan around it.

chicagotexan2
11-03-2013, 10:19 PM
Where do I sign for this sorry lump of poop to get shipped?

jtexas
11-03-2013, 10:25 PM
Guy is almost at 50% for the season. He is horrible and is getting worse.

Hervoyel
11-03-2013, 10:36 PM
Worst kicker I've ever seen. We left 6 damn points on the field thanks to this fat aggie piece of ****. He's got one damn job and it's to kick the ****ing ball through those uprights.

By all rights Bullock should be the guy leaving Reliant in an ambulance tonight.

False Start
11-03-2013, 10:40 PM
Hobbits have hairy feet, maybe that has something to do with it. In any case, send him back to the Shire.

WG9032
11-03-2013, 10:43 PM
Unbelievable.

CretorFrigg
11-03-2013, 10:45 PM
This kid is not an NFL kicker.

TheIronDuke
11-03-2013, 10:45 PM
Much like we are stuck with Marciano, we are stuck with fat Aggie as well. Thanks for 2-6 fat Aggy!

legacy_gt
11-03-2013, 10:45 PM
missing on the 42 and 49.....no way in hell on the 55

eriadoc
11-03-2013, 10:46 PM
Unbelievable.

Totally believable if you've watched him kick before.

Dishman
11-03-2013, 10:46 PM
We've got to find someone much more reliable. How has he stuck around for so long? This team's Achilles heel is inability to cut ties with the right people. Are we sure Fat Randy wasn't puffing the cheeba with Montgomery?

Maddict5
11-03-2013, 10:46 PM
no need for a long thread. he'll be an ex-Texan by midweek. shame team played well and he more or less lost it. kickers are strange fish. when they go bad, there's usually no coming back

thetexanator
11-03-2013, 10:48 PM
that FAT MOTHER ________

redwhiteANDblue
11-03-2013, 10:49 PM
no need for a long thread. he'll be an ex-Texan by midweek. shame team played well and he more or less lost it. kickers are strange fish. when they go bad, there's usually no coming back

Buddy, this guy was never good to begin with. He's worst damn fish in the lake!

utahmark
11-03-2013, 10:49 PM
I have tried to defend this guy but he lost me tonight.

Rey
11-03-2013, 10:49 PM
This really goes beyond bullock. Texans make too many status quo decisions. Bullock isn't the only player that shouldn't be here. Texans have made a bunch of questionable decisions.

cameronkrazie86
11-03-2013, 10:49 PM
Can he take Joe and Martin with him?

aussie_texan
11-03-2013, 10:50 PM
i havnt been involved in an "All Encompassing FIRE" thread before but I'm all for this one. what a joke this guy is

bigmck
11-03-2013, 10:51 PM
no need for a long thread. he'll be an ex-Texan by midweek. shame team played well and he more or less lost it. kickers are strange fish. when they go bad, there's usually no coming back

I wish you were right, but I don't think so. He will stay all year and maybe he will go in the off season.

Say Watt
11-03-2013, 10:52 PM
I watched him a ton at A&M and have continued to have hopes he could get it together. He was a phenomenal clutch kicker at A&M. I'm afraid the spotlight of the NFL is more than Bullock can handle. Cut him tomorrow.

cameronkrazie86
11-03-2013, 10:54 PM
Only left probably 12 points on the board thanks to the kicker tonight, no biggie...

TEXANRED
11-03-2013, 10:54 PM
Bullock sucks donkey dick and it's time for his ass to go. he by himself cost us 9 points. **** bullock.

legacy_gt
11-03-2013, 10:55 PM
all you have to do is make one of the 3 and the game changes.

TEXANRED
11-03-2013, 10:55 PM
Only left probably 12 points on the board thanks to the kicker tonight, no biggie...

no we went for it on 4th. 9 points he cost us.

you have one job. one.

cameronkrazie86
11-03-2013, 10:57 PM
no we went for it on 4th. 9 points he cost us.

you have one job. one.

Probably went for it knowing he wouldn't make it anyway. That's just me being negative though :)

TexanBacker93
11-03-2013, 11:02 PM
Much like we are stuck with Marciano, we are stuck with fat Aggie as well. Thanks for 2-6 fat Aggy!

2 of the multiple reasons why Smithiak needs to be gone. You want to be loyal? Fine. Be loyal to those that deserve it. 3 players get cut last week for a violation of team rules, but Kubiak says it was performance based since he can't cut them for the rules violations. Yet Bullock is still on this team with his performance this year?

AndyWin
11-03-2013, 11:06 PM
How does Marciano even have a job? Special teams has SUCKED for so long.

The one play tonight was just JJ Watt going beast mode

legacy_gt
11-03-2013, 11:07 PM
how do you have a job with 9 FG's missed already?

Brandon420tx
11-03-2013, 11:08 PM
I'm all for seeing what Shapiro can bring to the kicking table. Makes a real nice second string punter as well

gtexan02
11-03-2013, 11:09 PM
An honorable person would resign, return the money he has stolen from us, and use whatever he has left to take out a full page ad in the sports section telling the city of Houston how sorry he is for basically destroying our chances this year.

I would be ashamed to show up at work knowing I was as bad at my job as he is.

legacy_gt
11-03-2013, 11:09 PM
what happened to last years kicker?

Mr. Texan
11-03-2013, 11:11 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/706192/rosencopter-o.gif

Mr. Texan
11-03-2013, 11:12 PM
this really might be worse than the rosencopter

burro
11-03-2013, 11:15 PM
Casey Barth, Olindo Mare, and Shayne Graham are all free agents. Any of them would be an improvement over the Michelin man.

swyyyguy
11-03-2013, 11:16 PM
does anything good ever come out of aTm?

Norg
11-03-2013, 11:17 PM
he plays special teams we ****ttt HOW ABOUT WE FIRE JOE MARCEIANO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dis **** is a ****in joke how bad can out special teams suck and we get no change our ST has been suckin for YEARS !!!!!!!!!! dis **** is gettin funny BY NOW !!!!!!!!

Hervoyel
11-03-2013, 11:17 PM
Worst kicker I've ever seen. We left 6 damn points on the field thanks to this fat aggie piece of ****. He's got one damn job and it's to kick the ****ing ball through those uprights.

By all rights Bullock should be the guy leaving Reliant in an ambulance tonight.

Posted too soon. He had another miss in him. Make that 9 points he left out there.

Hervoyel
11-03-2013, 11:19 PM
this really might be worse than the rosencopter

I don't feel like it is. I feel like that was cruel and merciless and that the football gods were urinating on our heads with that one.

This is something the Texans deserve. This is their own fault and so it's appropriate if unpleasant.

Hervoyel
11-03-2013, 11:19 PM
An honorable person would resign, return the money he has stolen from us, and use whatever he has left to take out a full page ad in the sports section telling the city of Houston how sorry he is for basically destroying our chances this year.

I would be ashamed to show up at work knowing I was as bad at my job as he is.

He's been learning how to be a pro from Ed Reed though so....

klockWork
11-03-2013, 11:25 PM
Dwight Howard has better FTs shooting percentage then this guy kicking fgs. What a joke.

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11-03-2013, 11:26 PM
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STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-03-2013, 11:27 PM
Kicker is one of the easiest positions to replace and plug in someone new. No excuse not to have a new kicker suited up next week. Bullock obviously doesn't have it.

dtran04
11-03-2013, 11:29 PM
He's also highly inconsistent on kickoffs. He's good for one short one each game.

Premier
11-03-2013, 11:34 PM
i hope this thread doesnt reach more than a few pages..

go pick up rugland, that guy can kick the football..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziskQnL4wGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBe6FSDCTwE

AndyWin
11-03-2013, 11:50 PM
I mean... we HAVE to be looking for a kicker this week, right?

legacy_gt
11-03-2013, 11:55 PM
bullock was so mad, he tried to kick the camera from the press and missed.:kingkong:

Bulls on Parade
11-03-2013, 11:57 PM
He let the team down tonight. Randy Bullock wasn't anywhere close on two of those misses. The other one early in the game just had a weird knuckleball type of movement to the left of the upright and just kept sailing a few feet wide.

The bottom line is 1-for-4 on field goals tonight (25 %) in a game we lost by three points on national TV with our season on the line. It's just frustrating.

If the Texans released him tomorrow and signed any street free agent kicker, I wouldn't be upset. The new guy couldn't be any worse.

Bulls on Parade
11-03-2013, 11:59 PM
I mean... we HAVE to be looking for a kicker this week, right?
Although if we keep Randy Bullock he may help us land a better draft pick. At 2-6, we're still in the running for a top five pick and C.J. Mosley in the first round. I can see the pros and cons to keeping him or releasing him.

TheMatrix31
11-04-2013, 12:01 AM
They should cut him from the roster, then cut him with razorblades and throw him into the ****ing gulf.

hradhak
11-04-2013, 12:28 AM
I don't think kickers have a break in factor. This guy needs to be cut and bring in someone else. We gave him a second chance already, he shouldn't get a 3rd

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-04-2013, 12:31 AM
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1454713_256337564514974_724148606_n.jpg

mattieuk
11-04-2013, 12:43 AM
I don't think kickers have a break in factor. This guy needs to be cut and bring in someone else. We gave him a second chance already, he shouldn't get a 3rd

I do. I think a kicker is someone that you have to have 100% faith in, until the day henis no longer on the team.


I've backed Randy through the season, but tonight in a high pressure situation, with the season on the line, he was repeatedly below average.

I'm not a massive fan if changing a kicker mid way through a season, but from what I've seen, I don't see an upside to Bullock anymore. It is time to move on.

speedfreek
11-04-2013, 12:47 AM
The person in this photo looks absolutely scared poop-less!
Definitely not a look that says "put it on my shoulders coach,
and let me win.."

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1454713_256337564514974_724148606_n.jpg

TJ

Bulls on Parade
11-04-2013, 12:50 AM
The person in this photo looks absolutely scared poop-less!
Definitely not a look that says "put it on my shoulders coach,
and let me win.."
TJ
Definitely. Do you notice how his body shakes a little right before? The kid is so easily rattled. I feel bad for him but he's going to cost us a few more games this season unless he's released later this week.

CretorFrigg
11-04-2013, 12:55 AM
Percentage-wise, Randy Bullock is the worst starting kicker in the NFL.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticPositionCategory=FIELD_GOAL_KICKER&d-447263-s=KICKING_FG_PCT&tabSeq=1&season=2013&Submit=Go&experience=&archive=false&conference=null&qualified=false

Bulls on Parade
11-04-2013, 12:58 AM
Percentage-wise, Randy Bullock is the worst starting kicker in the NFL.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticPositionCategory=FIELD_GOAL_KICKER&d-447263-s=KICKING_FG_PCT&tabSeq=1&season=2013&Submit=Go&experience=&archive=false&conference=null&qualified=false
If we keep him, I can almost guarantee you that he'll miss at least 15 more field goals this season and be ranked as one of the worst starting kickers in NFL history. Not just the worst this season.

Texecutioner
11-04-2013, 01:12 AM
Most of the fans were defending this guy blindly in the thread I started earlier on in the season, but since it was early they put the typical blinders on and acted like he was just going to "get it" just because. Chickens are coming home to roost now.

Funny thing is that most people are still missing it completely. This wasn't the kicker's fault. This was "Management's" fault for keeping this guy around to kick FG's when the game was on the line when he clearly showed that he couldn't be relied on.

MEGA SWATT
11-04-2013, 01:16 AM
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1454713_256337564514974_724148606_n.jpg

lol, msr

houstonspartan
11-04-2013, 01:32 AM
Most of the fans were defending this guy blindly in the thread I started earlier on in the season, but since it was early they put the typical blinders on and acted like he was just going to "get it" just because. Chickens are coming home to roost now.

Funny thing is that most people are still missing it completely. This wasn't the kicker's fault. This was "Management's" fault for keeping this guy around to kick FG's when the game was on the line when he clearly showed that he couldn't be relied on.

Yep.

During the off season, in the middle of the summer, I said to a buddy of mine: "Kinda worried about our special teams." This friend was dismissive and didn't think it was a big deal.

Tonight, as I was leaving Reliant, and listening to another buddy of mine and all the other Texans fans crying about cutting Bullock, I said: "This goes higher than the kicker. We need to get rid of the special teams coach. The Texans have known that."

Look, I'm obviously happy that Kubiak will be ok. I send my thoughts to his family, and want him to recover.

But a part of management and being a high-level executive is about decision-making regarding personnel. Special teams has been a problem for a while, and has cost us games.

Ultimately, that's on Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith, not Randy Bullock.

steelbtexan
11-04-2013, 01:35 AM
does anything good ever come out of aTm?

Besides Dutch and a few friends of mine the answer is no.

Not if you put them in high pressure situations,

This may be the reason subconciously why I dont want Johnny Football to be the Texans, QB of the future, (JM didn't really want to be an Aggie to begin with, so there may be hope.)

Lambert
11-04-2013, 01:38 AM
Bullock was so upset by his three misses tonight that he went home and tried to hang himself. Fortunately, he couldn't kick the chair out from under himself.

houstonspartan
11-04-2013, 01:39 AM
Bullock was so upset by his three misses tonight that he went home and tried to hang himself. Fortunately, he couldn't kick the chair out from under himself.

Ouch.

TheMatrix31
11-04-2013, 02:17 AM
I can't stand when kickers blow games. One of the most infuriating things that can happen in a football game.

NitroGSXR
11-04-2013, 02:19 AM
Bullock is the "Matt Schaub" of kickers.

:facepalm:

htowntexans1985
11-04-2013, 06:35 AM
I knew we were in trouble when he was hitting them off the uprights during pregame. Damn Pillsbury doughboy.

TejasTom
11-04-2013, 06:38 AM
This guy (Bullock) was hand picked by Joe Marciano. He's untouchable!

Corrosion
11-04-2013, 07:18 AM
We've got to find someone much more reliable.

We have to find someone more reliable .... Next season , for the time being Bullock can continue to miss and push the team closer to the top of the draft.



How has he stuck around for so long? This team's Achilles heel is inability to cut ties with the right people. Are we sure Fat Randy wasn't puffing the cheeba with Montgomery?

Why get ridda him now , you might get some moron who actually makes a few costing you draft position.

Uncle Rico
11-04-2013, 07:19 AM
Maybe Bullock can play LG or RT

speedfreek
11-04-2013, 07:21 AM
What is Dutch's handle on this website?

Besides Dutch and a few friends of mine the answer is no.

Trail.Blazr
11-04-2013, 07:26 AM
Most of the fans were defending this guy blindly in the thread I started earlier on in the season, but since it was early they put the typical blinders on and acted like he was just going to "get it" just because. Chickens are coming home to roost now.

Funny thing is that most people are still missing it completely. This wasn't the kicker's fault. This was "Management's" fault for keeping this guy around to kick FG's when the game was on the line when he clearly showed that he couldn't be relied on.

In total agreement. I saw this thread and was thinking "It's Bullock's fault he's got a job in the NFL?"

LOL

TheIronDuke
11-04-2013, 07:27 AM
We have to find someone more reliable .... Next season , for the time being Bullock can continue to miss and push the team closer to the top of the draft.





Why get ridda him now , you might get some moron who actually makes a few costing you draft position.

These are valid points. If we didn't have Kris Brown sucking horribly in 2005 we might have lost our chance at #1 overall. I say stick with the fat aggie, at least it'll be entertaining and give the fans a chance to catch some footballs in the stands. We need all the losses we can get this year going forward to get the changes we need to compete next year.

blitz90
11-04-2013, 07:28 AM
What free agent kickers are out there?
Can Keenum kick?

Happy187
11-04-2013, 07:40 AM
What free agent kickers are out there?
Can Keenum kick?

Yes Keenum kicked a 47 yard field goal in high school.
http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2011/08/case-stories-keenum-once-kicked-a-47-yard-field-goal/

HJam72
11-04-2013, 07:46 AM
We have to find someone more reliable .... Next season , for the time being Bullock can continue to miss and push the team closer to the top of the draft.





Why get ridda him now , you might get some moron who actually makes a few costing you draft position.

Yep, yep.

Even if we don't need a QB, we could use some other things that high picks in the first few rounds would likely take care of.

At this point ol' Randy can just kick us to 2-14 AFAIC.

Play4theSlushie
11-04-2013, 07:53 AM
Time For Randy Bullock to delete his twitter as well...
Seriously does Lechler place kick? Has he tried?

TexansBull
11-04-2013, 07:55 AM
This guy (Bullock) was hand picked by Joe Marciano. He's untouchable!

Said Trindon Holiday...

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PapaL
11-04-2013, 08:22 AM
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/papalrodz/Texans.jpg

speedfreek
11-04-2013, 08:26 AM
deserves to be in the thread twice..

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/papalrodz/Texans.jpg

Corrosion
11-04-2013, 08:29 AM
Time For Randy Bullock to delete his twitter as well...
Seriously does Lechler place kick? Has he tried?

Lechler didn't help us much last night either .... 19 yard punt in the 4th quarter. :smiliepalm:

speedfreek
11-04-2013, 08:31 AM
The Ags let us down last night. Lechler had one bad kick,
Gary had health problems -- no excuse for Bullock.

TJ

PapaL
11-04-2013, 08:31 AM
http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/papalrodz/hungry.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/papalrodz/bullockhouse.jpg

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/papalrodz/bullock.png

PapaL
11-04-2013, 08:33 AM
Those 4 pics explain my position on the Kicker situation. If we don't have a new kicker this week...I don't know. I find it impossible to not have one but then again we accept this type of play around here so yeah.

gwallaia
11-04-2013, 08:38 AM
As a season ticket holder since the very beginning of this franchise, I demand that Randy Bullock be immediately removed from my team.

Exascor
11-04-2013, 08:43 AM
Those 4 pics explain my position on the Kicker situation. If we don't have a new kicker this week...I don't know. I find it impossible to not have one but then again we accept this type of play around here so yeah.

We should release him. But why now? You are 2-6 and not making the playoffs. I'm all for trying to win but I wouldn't try to bandaid the team to do it now. Get a new kicker and we win maybe 5 more games. Ride him and win maybe 4-5 more games. Wait until the offseason to address it.

infantrycak
11-04-2013, 08:45 AM
This is monumentally worse than Kris Brown's bad season. Bullock has got to go.

Sign kickalicious off whatever practice squad he is on.

TheIronDuke
11-04-2013, 08:50 AM
This is monumentally worse than Kris Brown's bad season. Bullock has got to go.

Sign kickalicious off whatever practice squad he is on.

He's not even on a practice squad, he's free pickings but this team will not be replacing Bullock. Gotta give him more time I'm sure.

IlliniJen
11-04-2013, 08:51 AM
I feel like we're at such a low point right now that someone needs to write a sad song about our kicker: The Ballad of Fat Randy.

I would have it end in a dusty saloon shootout that doesn't end well for Fat Randy.

Honoring Earl 34
11-04-2013, 08:54 AM
I feel like we're at such a low point right now that someone needs to write a sad song about our kicker: The Ballad of Fat Randy.

I would have it end in a dusty saloon shootout that doesn't end well for Fat Randy.

They got one and it starts like this ...

"Irreplaceable"

To the left
To the left

To the left
To the left

Mmmm to the left, to the left
Everything you own in the box to the left

Texecutioner
11-04-2013, 08:56 AM
In total agreement. I saw this thread and was thinking "It's Bullock's fault he's got a job in the NFL?"

LOL

Don't tell the Smithiak supporters that though. They'll just look for another reason for why a player is responsible for problems on a team that constantly has reliability issues all across the board. This franchise will remain a joke until we get a new regime.

The1ApplePie
11-04-2013, 09:00 AM
I'd take a field goal kicking mule at this point.

Maybe one of the dogs from the Air Bud series is available

PapaL
11-04-2013, 09:11 AM
We should release him. But why now? You are 2-6 and not making the playoffs. I'm all for trying to win but I wouldn't try to bandaid the team to do it now. Get a new kicker and we win maybe 5 more games. Ride him and win maybe 4-5 more games. Wait until the offseason to address it.

Because it's demoralizing to the other players on the team.
Shows that lack of accountability.
It's a position that needs to be addressed; might as well address it sooner rather than later. (Reference the QB situation)

I'm not saying a new kicker is gonna get us to the playoffs this year but it could be the difference next year. Might as well give someone else a turn or look to draft a guy.

TejasTom
11-04-2013, 09:23 AM
Said Trindon Holiday...

Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using Board Express

MSR. Touché.

silentassassin
11-04-2013, 09:33 AM
In a draft where Blair Walsh, Greg Zuerlein and Justin Tucker went undrafted.

Burning a 5th rounder for this tub of lard...

TheIronDuke
11-04-2013, 09:35 AM
In a draft where Blair Walsh, Greg Zuerlein and Justin Tucker went undrafted.

Burning a 5th rounder for this tub of lard...

Much like Bullock was before attempting the 55 yarder, you were 1 of 3, only Tucker was undrafted, the other two were drafted but after Bullock's worthless fat ass.

silentassassin
11-04-2013, 09:43 AM
Much like Bullock was before attempting the 55 yarder, you were 1 of 3, only Tucker was undrafted, the other two were drafted but after Bullock's worthless fat ass.

Oh whoops, my mistake. Still sounds just as crappy.

pbat488
11-04-2013, 09:58 AM
They got one and it starts like this ...

"Irreplaceable"

To the left
To the left

To the left
To the left

Mmmm to the left, to the left
Everything you own in the box to the left

that's perfect, except for the song title..

thetexanator
11-04-2013, 10:04 AM
Fat Randy suks so bad coaches never try to ice him. seriously, i dont remember him being iced ever.

cstyle42
11-04-2013, 10:09 AM
We need to get a new inside linebacker too. Cushing will get hurt every year he plays unfortunately. I really love Cushing's play and attitude but too reckless. At best we can hqve Cushing along side a future great inside linebacker.

Exascor
11-04-2013, 10:17 AM
Fat Randy suks so bad coaches never try to ice him. seriously, i dont remember him being iced ever.
Pretty sure he was iced at least once.


We need to get a new inside linebacker too. Cushing will get hurt every year he plays unfortunately. I really love Cushing's play and attitude but too reckless. At best we can hqve Cushing along side a future great inside linebacker.

Talk about off topic... =P

TheIronDuke
11-04-2013, 10:21 AM
Fat Randy suks so bad coaches never try to ice him. seriously, i dont remember him being iced ever.

You don't remember him being iced at the end of the Titans game, well, before he missed a few times, made one that didn't count and sent us to OT?

mattieuk
11-04-2013, 10:33 AM
Don't tell the Smithiak supporters that though. They'll just look for another reason for why a player is responsible for problems on a team that constantly has reliability issues all across the board. This franchise will remain a joke until we get a new regime.

I think they gave him every opertunity to prove himself, and handled the situation properly. They had faith in a guy they hand selected, gave him a chance to put a poor start behind him, which he was starting to do, but after yesterday, it obviously hasn't panned out, as the fans (and likely his teammates) confidence in him is absoutely shot.

Perhaps cutting him after week 3 like you were soliciting would have resulted in another kicker making those field goals last night, but who knows. I think it is clear, even at this relatively early stage in his professional career, that he is going to struggle with the job, and despite the obvious physical tools he has, the mental aspect of the job seems to be too much for him to handle.

The only reason I think he'll stick around, is as others mentioned, as the season is realistically done now - and why shoulder the extra cost, and loss of draft picks of brining in a veteran kicker.

Ghostform
11-04-2013, 10:37 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibbuf9gB8XBPOO.gif

Vinny
11-04-2013, 10:37 AM
Texans had a 96 percent chance of winning when Bullock lined up for that field goal up 24-12 with 11 minutes to go. http://live.advancednflstats.com/index.php?gameid1=2013110310

Texecutioner
11-04-2013, 10:44 AM
I think they gave him every opertunity to prove himself, and handled the situation properly. They had faith in a guy they hand selected, gave him a chance to put a poor start behind him, which he was starting to do, but after yesterday, it obviously hasn't panned out, as the fans (and likely his teammates) confidence in him is absoutely shot.

That was all fine and dandy, but there was nothing wrong with bringing in other guys to challenge him in practice to see if they had other options out there that might have been better. They neglected to even think about doing that which was the same thing a few years ago when Brown was struggling horribly. Kubiak didn't learn from that and made the same mistake. Why can I see these things as a fan and a 8 year HC can't?

Perhaps cutting him after week 3 like you were soliciting would have resulted in another kicker making those field goals last night, but who knows.

I never solicited to cut him after that week. I solicited to bring in other kickers which was the title of the thread I started. I wanted Bullock to have to compete to keep his job. If he would have won then so be it. He wasn't challenged to keep his job though which was the same problem with Schaub going into this season.


I think it is clear, even at this relatively early stage in his professional career, that he is going to struggle with the job, and despite the obvious physical tools he has, the mental aspect of the job seems to be too much for him to handle.

Well the signs were there prior to this week. Why do we once again have to wait for the train wreck to happen before we prepare and make adjustments?

The only reason I think he'll stick around, is as others mentioned, as the season is realistically done now - and why shoulder the extra cost, and loss of draft picks of brining in a veteran kicker.

It really doesn't matter at this point. This is just another failure of a season under a regime that continues to coddle players like this for to long and they kill them team's chances.

Exascor
11-04-2013, 11:01 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibbuf9gB8XBPOO.giflol - good stuff

steelbtexan
11-04-2013, 11:09 AM
This is monumentally worse than Kris Brown's bad season. Bullock has got to go.

Sign kickalicious off whatever practice squad he is on.

^^^^
This

Dread-Head
11-04-2013, 11:12 AM
Let me preface my remarks by saying "I can NOT kick a field goal!" free to quote me on that. I can't make a TEN yard field goal. I wouldn't make it unto a HIGHSCHOOL team as a kicker, much less a college one and the thought of me being a kicker in the pros is BEYOND laughable". I AM however of the opinion that if you're BLESSED enough to have the god given talent to kick a football straight for 50+ yards then you should be paid a kings ransom to do it for someone's football team. If you lack that ability, then you should be either in the stands or WATCHING AT HOME like the rest of us.

The way I see it, if you get four attempts to kick a fieldgoal and you make one You fall into catagory 2. I'm no math whiz (as I AM quite stupid) but the way I figure it :thinking: that's an accuracy rating of 25% IF you were evaluated at work at your rating was 25%, would YOU still have a job?

FIRE this club-footed MUFF-HUGGA!

My apologies to anyone who actually has a club foot

TEXANRED
11-04-2013, 11:19 AM
Randy Bullock should be fired........out of a cannon.......into a cactus patch......naked.

Exascor
11-04-2013, 11:22 AM
Randy Bullock should be fired........out of a cannon.......into a cactus patch......naked.Please don't stop there...

Dread-Head
11-04-2013, 11:36 AM
Randy Bullock should be fired........out of a cannon.......into a cactus patch......naked.

...while blindfolded...and said field of cacti should be stocked with rattle-snakes, scorpions, televangelist and Amway salesmen.

Play4theSlushie
11-04-2013, 11:52 AM
Yeah but hes for the most part consistant
(Lechler) Not Bullock

htownfan32
11-04-2013, 12:08 PM
Fire him. Nuff said.

Hervoyel
11-04-2013, 12:42 PM
...while blindfolded...and said field of cacti should be stocked with rattle-snakes, scorpions, televangelist and Amway salesmen.

... and some of those girls at the mall who work in the cosmetics/perfume section and spray alcohol based "stink" on you before you see them coming.

Lots of them. Aggressive ones with big sample spray bottles.

ThaJokaa
11-04-2013, 12:45 PM
Every time he's up for a FG I get reminded of the scenes from The Longest Yard where the kicker tries kicking the ball but fails miserably every time.

Dread-Head
11-04-2013, 12:46 PM
... and some of those girls at the mall who work in the cosmetics/perfume section and spray alcohol based "stink" on you before you see them coming.

Lots of them. Aggressive ones with big sample spray bottles.

"Like...OHMYGAAAAAWD...you like...sooooo....have to try this new scentfromCalvinKliiiiien....!

Hervoyel
11-04-2013, 12:58 PM
"Like...OHMYGAAAAAWD...you like...sooooo....have to try this new scentfromCalvinKliiiiien....!

Yes. THAT is what he deserves. After the cactus needles and all the other stuff. A good hosing down with extra stinky rubbing alcohol. To the death? No..... To the PAIN!

ChampionTexan
11-04-2013, 01:01 PM
Every time he's up for a FG I get reminded of the scenes from The Longest Yard where the kicker tries kicking the ball but fails miserably every time.

But on the plus side, I no longer get nervous before and during important field goal attempts, since I now just assume they will all be missed.

Blake
11-04-2013, 01:04 PM
Randy: Gary, are they booing me?
Gary: Uh, no, they're saying "Boo-lluck, Boo-lluck".
Randy: Are you saying "Boo" or "Boo-lluck"?
Everyone: Boo!
Hans Moleman: I was saying "Boo-lluck".

Vinny
11-04-2013, 01:04 PM
Every time he's up for a FG I get reminded of the scenes from The Longest Yard where the kicker tries kicking the ball but fails miserably every time.should we just make fun of his Mama?

http://www.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Adam-Sandler-in-The-Waterboy.png

TheMatrix31
11-04-2013, 01:46 PM
So....he's still not cut?

speedfreek
11-04-2013, 01:53 PM
takes a while to clear out all of the 'little debbies from the locker..
(have patience)

TJ

So....he's still not cut?

mattieuk
11-04-2013, 02:31 PM
That was all fine and dandy, but there was nothing wrong with bringing in other guys to challenge him in practice to see if they had other options out there that might have been better. They neglected to even think about doing that which was the same thing a few years ago when Brown was struggling horribly. Kubiak didn't learn from that and made the same mistake. Why can I see these things as a fan and a 8 year HC can't?

How do you know they didn't even think about it - do you have secret insider sources that I'm not aware of? The situation with Kris Brown was markedly different - you had a seasoned vet who was coming toward the end of his career, who may have been losing his physical abilities at a rate that merited looking at other options to see if they were better able to do the job. Bullock was in a situation where obviously the physical intangables are there, but the mentality of the league may have been putting pressure on him after a couple of weeks into his rookie season.

I never solicited to cut him after that week. I solicited to bring in other kickers which was the title of the thread I started. I wanted Bullock to have to compete to keep his job. If he would have won then so be it. He wasn't challenged to keep his job though which was the same problem with Schaub going into this season.

My bad - you're right, you just wanted to pull in other kickers at that point. It is worth noting that since you started demanding other kickers compete against him in practice that he went 10 for 11 in field goal attempts, until yesterday's debacle. Would you have analysed him on the basis of not kicking as well in practice, or the gametime experiences? Judging on what he did until yesterday the approach that the coaching staff were taking was working.

If we had based who to continue with at kicker on games, and made it the starters job to lose, we would have still had Bullock in yesterdays game, so questions.

Well the signs were there prior to this week. Why do we once again have to wait for the train wreck to happen before we prepare and make adjustments?

Are the signs the first two weeks? Since then there has been little evidence to suggest that a train wreck was about to happen.

It really doesn't matter at this point. This is just another failure of a season under a regime that continues to coddle players like this for to long and they kill them team's chances.

The "coddling" was working though. Especially in this case, as Bullock is dealing with mental issues, rather than physical limitations. Heck there may even he a argument to be made (but not by me) that 2 of his 3 field goal misses were due to a poor mental state after yesterday's horrible half time. The whole team was on another level in the first half, and in the second half really didn't regain the bounce that there was before the half.

False Start
11-04-2013, 04:54 PM
Bullock so fat he sat on a quarter and squeezed a booger out of George Washington's nose. :thisbig:

Texn4life
11-04-2013, 04:59 PM
Has chunky boy been released yet?

darnbni99a
11-04-2013, 05:03 PM
man i was really tryin to defend and support this dude earlier this season but my God...this sh!t has reached its climax....inconsistency at its finest. cut his ass.

HouTx11
11-04-2013, 05:10 PM
And congratulations to Randy Bullock, winner of the Jacoby Jones "run 'em out of town" award for 2013.

Preceeded only by 2012 winner Kevin Walter and 2011 winner and trophy namesake Jacoby Jones, Bullock joins an elite group of Texans whose infamy and unpopularity is unmatched by anyone else on the team.

And let us also pay special tribute to the runner up of this year's award, none other than Mr. pick 6: Quarterback Matt Schaub!

TejasTom
11-04-2013, 05:40 PM
But on the plus side, I no longer get nervous before and during important field goal attempts, since I now just assume they will all be missed.

I may have to adopt this outlook.

Thorn
11-04-2013, 05:53 PM
Bullock so fat he sat on a quarter and squeezed a booger out of George Washington's nose. :thisbig:

Bullock is so fat all he wants for Christmas is to see his feet.

santo
11-04-2013, 06:57 PM
It speaks volumes about our kicker when Pagano doesn't even use a time out to ice him. LMAO!!

:kubepalm::wadepalm:

digitalswim
11-04-2013, 07:06 PM
From John McClains twitter.

Texans are bringing in 3 kickers 4 tryouts Tuesday: Shayne Graham, Neil Rackers and Justin Medlock.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-04-2013, 07:09 PM
I remember Medlock. He was drafted by the Chiefs in the 5th round and was a total bust. Got cut after week 1 of his rookie season. Hopefully they go with Rackers.

dtran04
11-04-2013, 07:17 PM
Graham was just awful at kickoffs though. Could barely make it to the goal line even with the rule changes. They resorted to squibbing it half the time. Don't think Rackers had much of a bigger leg.

I guess at this point, the Texans will sacrifice return yardage for FGs.

steelbtexan
11-04-2013, 09:13 PM
Graham was just awful at kickoffs though. Could barely make it to the goal line even with the rule changes. They resorted to squibbing it half the time. Don't think Rackers had much of a bigger leg.

I guess at this point, the Texans will sacrifice return yardage for FGs.

Keep Bullock to kickoff and cut a WR or RB.

Texan_Bill
11-04-2013, 09:18 PM
Meh!!

Blame Bullock all you want, but you know what?????


SCORE TOUCHDOWNS!!!

If you have to rely on a kicker, you've already lost.

Doppelganger
11-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Keep Bullock to kickoff and cut a WR or RB.

Do they have to kickoff? I would sign Rackers or Graham and have Lechler punt or drop kick it!

burro
11-04-2013, 09:27 PM
takes a while to clear out all of the 'little debbies from the locker..
(have patience)

TJ

yeah, we'll have to be patient. when bullock hauls ass he has to make two trips.

Brisco_County
11-04-2013, 10:15 PM
I'd take Rackers out of that group just for his desire to hit. It would be useful on this awful special teams. Not too impressed by Medlock either.

ChampionTexan
11-05-2013, 12:27 AM
Graham was just awful at kickoffs though. Could barely make it to the goal line even with the rule changes. They resorted to squibbing it half the time. Don't think Rackers had much of a bigger leg.

I guess at this point, the Texans will sacrifice return yardage for FGs.

Just for reference, the kickoff line was moved to the 35 yardline in 2011.

In 2011, the Texans split kickoff duties between Rackers and Hartmann (the litigious punter). Rackers touchback rate was 41.7% (15 of 36), and Harmann's was 46.0% (23 of 50). That placed them 22nd and 17th in the league respectively.

In 2012, Graham had a touchback rate of 30.8% (28 of 91) placing him 32nd in the league (of 38 kickers with enough kicks to qualify).

So far this season, Bullock's percentage is 48.5% (16 of 33) placing him 27th in the NFL.

Finally, Medlock did kick for the Panthers for 10 games in 2012, and his percentage was 41.5% (17 of 41) ranking him at 21st.

For whatever reason (and I'm sure it's obvious, even though nothing immediately comes to mind), touchback percentage has skyrocketed in 2013. In 2012, there were 11 kickers who's TB% was over 50. So far in 2013, there are 24 who meet that criteria. One interesting thing about this is that of one those 24 is currently available, and that's John Potter who filled in for 3 games for the Redskins. He was 8 of 14 on touchbacks. Possible downside is he's only attempted 4 FG's in his NFL career, and is at 75% with his only miss coming from 50 yards+.

CretorFrigg
11-05-2013, 07:51 AM
Our Texans are setting records once again after Matt Schaub's debacle.

Bullock is the first player since 1985 to have a field goal percentage under 62 percent with at least 20 attempts through eight games.

http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/numbers-colts-27-texans-24

silvrhand
11-05-2013, 09:30 AM
Who gives a crap about kickoff distance if he can make field goals I'll take the short kickoffs any day.

Hervoyel
11-05-2013, 09:54 AM
Who gives a crap about kickoff distance if he can make field goals I'll take the short kickoffs any day.

Can Lechler kickoff? I see where he's done it a handful of times from 2005-2009 for the Raiders and I assume that if he was truly any good at it he would have been asked to keep doing it but...... options?

drs23
11-05-2013, 10:04 AM
Who gives a crap about kickoff distance if he can make field goals I'll take the short kickoffs any day.

I'm on board with you there silvrhand 'cause we have those "special" teams that can mop up the return. Most of the time before the returner can cross the 50. That's pretty good ain't it? :kitten:

ChampionTexan
11-05-2013, 10:07 AM
Can Lechler kickoff? I see where he's done it a handful of times from 2005-2009 for the Raiders and I assume that if he was truly any good at it he would have been asked to keep doing it but...... options?

Well, on one hand, when you've got Sebastian Janikowski on your roster, the fact that they haven't used him to kickoff more than they have says very little. On the otherhand, in the 16 times he has kicked off in the NFL (including 9 times in 2012 when the kickoff line had been moved to the 35 yd line), he's got one touchback, and a 64.4 yard average. That gets his average kick to just barely short of the endzone.

Is he an option? Not a bad one in an emergency situation, but not a good one on an every game basis.

Oh, and while I agree that FG accuracy is more important that kickoff distance, I don't agree that you ignore the latter at the expense of the former. Your opponents starting field position does matter, and being able to put them on the 20 more than half the time would be a huge deal - even if your coverage teams don't suck as bad as ours currently do.

badboy
11-05-2013, 10:08 AM
Texans would seemingly do better if both teams on kickoffs started at 20. I cringe every time Martin takes ball out.

Dread-Head
11-05-2013, 11:29 AM
What SUX blue whale DC IK is the fact that WE GOT RID OF RACKERS (one of the most hard core kickers IN football)...for THIS CLUB-FOOTED ASS-CLOWN! :clown: Rackers was making tackles and gettin' hits on muff-huggas...AND he was making field goals! Kube saw an Aggie with potential and homie turned into a field goal kicking version of Vince Young/Tim Tebow...cut your losses Gary! Sing the Aggie fight song with this chump then tell him to get his monkey-ass on! :monkey:

Exascor
11-05-2013, 01:12 PM
What SUX blue whale DC IK is the fact that WE GOT RID OF RACKERS (one of the most hard core kickers IN football)...for THIS CLUB-FOOTED ASS-CLOWN! :clown: Rackers was making tackles and gettin' hits on muff-huggas...AND he was making field goals! Kube saw an Aggie with potential and homie turned into a field goal kicking version of Vince Young/Tim Tebow...[/b]cut your losses Gary! Sing the Aggie fight song with this chump then tell him to get his monkey-ass on! :monkey:I want to disagree with you Dread. I really do. I have failed to figure out how though so you win.

CloakNNNdagger
11-05-2013, 03:19 PM
When you look at Bullock's performance, it reflects what many of us feared would happen when we were told that there would be no competition.

longest FG:48 yds

1-19 yds: 0-0
20-29: 5-5
30-39: 1-1
40-49: 7-11
50+: 0-4

CretorFrigg
11-05-2013, 03:22 PM
When you look at Bullock's performance, it reflects what many of us feared would happen when we were told that there would be no competition.

longest FG:48 yds

1-19 yds: 0-0
20-29: 5-5
30-39: 1-1
40-49: 7-11
50+: 0-4

How sad. I know high school kickers with better stats than that, yet this guy is getting paid to kick.

El Tejano
11-05-2013, 03:53 PM
I want to disagree with you Dread. I really do. I have failed to figure out how though so you win.

Didn't Graham replace Rackers first and then we drafted Bullock?

Exascor
11-05-2013, 04:13 PM
Didn't Graham replace Rackers first and then we drafted Bullock?Nah - Graham was brought in a week or so after the draft for competition/mentor with Bullock. Graham kicked the competition to a tie and Bullock got injured so he got the job.

Pollardized
11-05-2013, 04:33 PM
This would at least be interesting on Sundays:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDwbjHV8jLo

gwallaia
11-05-2013, 04:59 PM
Matt Hogan could join fellow Cougar Case Keenum on the Texans.

Vance87
11-05-2013, 05:05 PM
This would at least be interesting on Sundays:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDwbjHV8jLo

He plays with the Lions I believe.

legacy_gt
11-05-2013, 05:06 PM
Matt Hogan could join fellow Cougar Case Keenum on the Texans.

where is matt? the guy has some ncaa records....I read in 2012 he was 3/3 over 50 yards FG's.

mussop
11-05-2013, 05:35 PM
We need to get a new inside linebacker too. Cushing will get hurt every year he plays unfortunately. I really love Cushing's play and attitude but too reckless. At best we can hqve Cushing along side a future great inside linebacker.

There's no such thing as a too reckless MLB. However until Wade gives up on this idea that a small penetrating NT can be successful all our MLB's are going to continue to wear down and get injured during the course of the year.

Wolf
11-05-2013, 06:09 PM
Curious if Marciano has the kickers practice with narrow field goal posts in practice

Number19
11-05-2013, 06:21 PM
Graham was just awful at kickoffs though. Could barely make it to the goal line even with the rule changes. They resorted to squibbing it half the time. Don't think Rackers had much of a bigger leg.

I guess at this point, the Texans will sacrifice return yardage for FGs.It's not unheard of for a team to carry two kickers - one for kickoffs and one for field goals. The disadvantage of using two positional slots is obvious. But as previously mentioned, Bollock does have great physical tools if he could just get his head straightened out.

axman40
11-05-2013, 06:23 PM
Cut Bullock let Lechler or whoever kick the XP and let's go for 6 every drive.ENDZONE OR BUST BABY!
:fans::fans::fans:

Number19
11-05-2013, 06:28 PM
We need to get a new inside linebacker too. Cushing will get hurt every year he plays unfortunately. I really love Cushing's play and attitude but too reckless. At best we can hqve Cushing along side a future great inside linebacker.If Cushing were to be moved to the outside he wouldn't be beat up quiet as much and might prolong his career.

Pollardized
11-05-2013, 06:54 PM
He plays with the Lions I believe.

They cut him.

CloakNNNdagger
11-05-2013, 07:29 PM
Altogether now:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Turk.

He has trampled on my testes where some bits of manhood lurked.

He hath lopped off all that's left with his terrible swift sword:

My pain keeps coming on.

https://www.usatodaysportsimages.com/image/thumb/250-225/7415911.jpg

HJam72
11-06-2013, 07:28 AM
Maybe he can make them if he kicks from just inside the right SIDELINE. :)

HOU-TEX
11-06-2013, 08:53 AM
I swear, I think this organization follows some sort of twelve step program before letting someone go.

Love this team to the bones, but holy moly, they make things difficult

76Texan
11-06-2013, 09:12 AM
I swear, I think this organization follows some sort of twelve step program before letting someone go.

Love this team to the bones, but holy moly, they make things difficult

I think they plan to use Keenum as the FG kicker.
After all, he did make a 47-yarder with 4 sec. left to win his State Championship at Wylie HS.

Dread-Head
11-06-2013, 09:26 AM
I swear, I think this organization follows some sort of twelve step program before letting someone go.

Love this team to the bones, but holy moly, they make things difficult


He walks into a room thinking there's a team meeting and Arian Foster stands up and says:

Arian: "Randy...we've brought you here, because we think...your actions are having ill effects with the group dynamic. We think you have a kicking problem."


Randy: "What the...I aint got no problem! YOU guys are the ones with the problem! Ya ever think of that?!"


Andre: "Randy...don't make this any harder than it has to be..."


Randy: "Go to hell Andre..."

Kubiak: Randy...we're here to help you. There's a place you can go...

HOU-TEX
11-06-2013, 09:36 AM
He walks into a room thinking there's a team meeting and Arian Foster stands up and says:

Arian: "Randy...we've brought you here, because we think...your actions are having ill effects with the group dynamic. We think you have a kicking problem."


Randy: "What the...I aint got no problem! YOU guys are the ones with the problem! Ya ever think of that?!"


Andre: "Randy...don't make this any harder than it has to be..."


Randy: "Go to hell Andre..."

Kubiak: Randy...we're here to help you. There's a place you can go...

:lol: Sounds about right

Wolf
11-06-2013, 10:36 PM
Maybe the hash tag needs to be revived from 2010

Don't worry Bullock just keep chopping wood because #kubiakbelievesinyou

From kprv channel 2 Houston (2010)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ql1OOnCtUk

silvrhand
11-07-2013, 11:20 AM
I can't f'ing believe we are keeping our kicker.. wtf..

Vance87
11-07-2013, 11:33 AM
I can't f'ing believe we are keeping our kicker.. wtf..

It's not his fault, Keenum needs to put him in a better position to succeed.

:kitten:

edwardc5637
11-07-2013, 11:41 AM
Cut Bullock let Lechler or whoever kick the XP and let's go for 6 every drive.ENDZONE OR BUST BABY!
:fans::fans::fans:

Should be going for the endzone anyway.

houstonspartan
11-07-2013, 11:42 AM
I can't f'ing believe we are keeping our kicker.. wtf..

I believe it. This organization is very thick-headed, and is not committed to excellence and winning. It's not their first priority.

speedfreek
11-07-2013, 11:44 AM
Not surprising that we stick with a guy too long.
--Even when the entire city, and players on the team can
see the guy doesn't have what it takes..

Gary did it with Carr, Schaub, and the ST coach -- only
predictable that it would be the same for Randy Bollocks..

TJ

houstonspartan
11-07-2013, 12:15 PM
Not surprising that we stick with a guy too long.
--Even when the entire city, and players on the team can
see the guy doesn't have what it takes..

Gary did it with Carr, Schaub, and the ST coach -- only
predictable that it would be the same for Randy Bollocks..

TJ

Sunday night, while leaving the game, I was listening to 610, and it was interesting how matter-of-fact those hosts were about how Bullock would be gone. They were discussing, very calmly, whether he'd be cut by Monday, or my Wednesday. The context of the discussion was that it was a given.

I told my buddy in the car: "No way will we get rid of him."

In the real world, Randy would have been terminated Sunday night. But the Texans don't operate that way. That's just how this team is. Even if we were still in contention, I still think they would have been ok keeping the guy.

This is an "everybody gets a gold star for participating" organization.

Dutchrudder
11-07-2013, 12:23 PM
I believe it. This organization is very thick-headed, and is not committed to excellence and winning. It's not their first priority.

Hmmmmmmmm, not being committed to winning means they are committed to losing, which sounds an awful lot like tanking... but we know no one would ever do that!

:chef:

houstonspartan
11-07-2013, 12:36 PM
Hmmmmmmmm, not being committed to winning means they are committed to losing, which sounds an awful lot like tanking... but we know no one would ever do that!

:chef:

lol. I don't think they're committed to losing, per se. They don't go out and say: "Let's lose."

But I think, organizationally, that losing doesn't bother them as much as it should.

I think they view things as "Oh well, at least we tried. That counts for something."

And, yes, I'm serious.

The players, on the other hand, are the opposite. I think most of the players are deeply disturbed by losing.

Exascor
11-07-2013, 01:02 PM
lol. I don't think they're committed to losing, per se. They don't go out and say: "Let's lose."

But I think, organizationally, that losing doesn't bother them as much as it should.

I think they view things as "Oh well, at least we tried. That counts for something."

And, yes, I'm serious.

The players, on the other hand, are the opposite. I think most of the players are deeply disturbed by losing.You can not like many things the Texans do but to say that losing doesn't bother them is nothing more than fiction. The Texans are patient. Sometimes it won't pay off. They want to create a stable team instead of firing everyone every 3-4 years hoping that they miraculously get the right combination. Is that comfort in losing? No way. They just don't want to end up like the many teams that hit the reset button every few years because they don't win a Superbowl. They want to give everyone, coaches and players, an opportunity to improve.

Sometimes they pulled the trigger pretty quick. See Trindon Holliday. Nobody complained when he was released. They had seen enough of his muffing balls and bad decisions. Then he becomes what he should have been here in Denver and fans complain we weren't patient enough and should have tied the roster spot up for him.

When your season starts and you feel like you can make it to the playoffs and possibly the Superbowl - you usually go with a veteran QB. Rarely will you see a potential playoff team dump their veteran in season and bring in a young (unproven) QB unless there is an injury. See New England Bledsoe > Brady. See San Francisco Smith > Kaepernick. See Arizona Warner (not injured) -not bringing in Lienart. The Texans were in the same boat with Schaub. We knew coming in he was likely our best bet to get to and advance in the playoffs. Schaub gets injured. Keenum got his chance and ran with it.

Here's where things change. When your team is CLEARLY out of the playoff picture like the Texans at 2-6, why get rid of players like Bullock? He's young. He has 8 more games to get his mind right. You lose nothing by keeping him on the roster. Some say it's a lack of accountability. Then Ed Reed, Derek Newton, Schaub, Kareem Jackson & Jonathan Joseph should be released at the same time as Bullock. They have all made game losing plays (or lack of in Reed's case) in multiple games. Does anyone REALLY think we could replace all those players in the middle of the season and improve the team? Get rid of Bullock after the season if he doesn't become the best kicker in the game over the next 8 games.

After all that crap I just said, Bullock should have been fired after all the misses early in the season. At least then the season had hope left and a vet could have stabilized the situation. Now it would take a miracle to get to the playoffs. I doubt that Rackers or Graham would be the catalyst of that miracle.

TexansBull
11-07-2013, 01:14 PM
Not surprising that we stick with a guy too long.

--Even when the entire city, and players on the team can

see the guy doesn't have what it takes..



Gary did it with Carr, Schaub, and the ST coach -- only

predictable that it would be the same for Randy Bollocks..



TJ

You left out Kris Brown...ironically enough...which is one of the better examples of this team's insanity.



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CloakNNNdagger
11-07-2013, 01:40 PM
You can not like many things the Texans do but to say that losing doesn't bother them is nothing more than fiction. The Texans are patient. Sometimes it won't pay off. They want to create a stable team instead of firing everyone every 3-4 years hoping that they miraculously get the right combination. Is that comfort in losing? No way. They just don't want to end up like the many teams that hit the reset button every few years because they don't win a Superbowl. They want to give everyone, coaches and players, an opportunity to improve.

Sometimes they pulled the trigger pretty quick. See Trindon Holliday. Nobody complained when he was released. They had seen enough of his muffing balls and bad decisions. Then he becomes what he should have been here in Denver and fans complain we weren't patient enough and should have tied the roster spot up for him.

When your season starts and you feel like you can make it to the playoffs and possibly the Superbowl - you usually go with a veteran QB. Rarely will you see a potential playoff team dump their veteran in season and bring in a young (unproven) QB unless there is an injury. See New England Bledsoe > Brady. See San Francisco Smith > Kaepernick. See Arizona Warner (not injured) -not bringing in Lienart. The Texans were in the same boat with Schaub. We knew coming in he was likely our best bet to get to and advance in the playoffs. Schaub gets injured. Keenum got his chance and ran with it.

Here's where things change. When your team is CLEARLY out of the playoff picture like the Texans at 2-6, why get rid of players like Bullock? He's young. He has 8 more games to get his mind right. You lose nothing by keeping him on the roster. Some say it's a lack of accountability. Then Ed Reed, Derek Newton, Schaub, Kareem Jackson & Jonathan Joseph should be released at the same time as Bullock. They have all made game losing plays (or lack of in Reed's case) in multiple games. Does anyone REALLY think we could replace all those players in the middle of the season and improve the team? Get rid of Bullock after the season if he doesn't become the best kicker in the game over the next 8 games.

After all that crap I just said, Bullock should have been fired after all the misses early in the season. At least then the season had hope left and a vet could have stabilized the situation. Now it would take a miracle to get to the playoffs. I doubt that Rackers or Graham would be the catalyst of that miracle.

The only comment I would make as far as continuing the "Bullock experiment" is that the more his kicks factor into losing games the more he will undoubtedly have a very strong negative effect of the entire team's psyche, just as Schaub's picks did.

houstonspartan
11-07-2013, 01:42 PM
You can not like many things the Texans do but to say that losing doesn't bother them is nothing more than fiction. The Texans are patient. Sometimes it won't pay off. They want to create a stable team instead of firing everyone every 3-4 years hoping that they miraculously get the right combination. Is that comfort in losing? No way. They just don't want to end up like the many teams that hit the reset button every few years because they don't win a Superbowl. They want to give everyone, coaches and players, an opportunity to improve.

Sometimes they pulled the trigger pretty quick. See Trindon Holliday. Nobody complained when he was released. They had seen enough of his muffing balls and bad decisions. Then he becomes what he should have been here in Denver and fans complain we weren't patient enough and should have tied the roster spot up for him.

When your season starts and you feel like you can make it to the playoffs and possibly the Superbowl - you usually go with a veteran QB. Rarely will you see a potential playoff team dump their veteran in season and bring in a young (unproven) QB unless there is an injury. See New England Bledsoe > Brady. See San Francisco Smith > Kaepernick. See Arizona Warner (not injured) -not bringing in Lienart. The Texans were in the same boat with Schaub. We knew coming in he was likely our best bet to get to and advance in the playoffs. Schaub gets injured. Keenum got his chance and ran with it.

Here's where things change. When your team is CLEARLY out of the playoff picture like the Texans at 2-6, why get rid of players like Bullock? He's young. He has 8 more games to get his mind right. You lose nothing by keeping him on the roster. Some say it's a lack of accountability. Then Ed Reed, Derek Newton, Schaub, Kareem Jackson & Jonathan Joseph should be released at the same time as Bullock. They have all made game losing plays (or lack of in Reed's case) in multiple games. Does anyone REALLY think we could replace all those players in the middle of the season and improve the team? Get rid of Bullock after the season if he doesn't become the best kicker in the game over the next 8 games.

After all that crap I just said, Bullock should have been fired after all the misses early in the season. At least then the season had hope left and a vet could have stabilized the situation. Now it would take a miracle to get to the playoffs. I doubt that Rackers or Graham would be the catalyst of that miracle.

Lol. That's funny. So, you agree with me.

Re: Trindon Holliday. My point was: it goes HIGHER than Trindon Holliday. He was mismanged and coached poorly. That's a result of them letting Joe Marciano do whatever he wants with zero accountability. Heck, instead of firing him, they actually got him a freaking ASSISTANT this year. And what good did that do?

Our head coach is a "qb guru." That's been his label. Ok. So, why wasn't he able to plan for this QB mess in advance? Shouldn't he have had a Plan B in place for our QB, if he's such an expert? Shouldn't he have seen that Schaub was on a downward slope?

And, about the Texans being patient. Ok, maybe. But, they are living in a bubble. Professionally, we are all measured against our peers. It's how life works. The Texans act as if it takes 8 years to improve a team, and that, if you just let people do their jobs long enough, they will eventually succeed. That's simply not true. Other teams do major turn-around's in a few years. It's the reality of the NFL. There is no other team in the NFL that would keep a kicker after missing three field goals during a nationally-televised game. It simply would not happen on other teams.

You said that they are patient because they wanted to create a stable team. Ok. Do you consider this team "stable?" We have a team full of superstars that are poorly managed and are likely getting tired of playing for a mediocre team. No matter what the players say publicly, they are likely fed up with this team privately.

There is a difference between stable and stagnant.

We are likely stuck with Gary Kubiak for several more years to come, regardless of his success rate. I am starting to accept that. In addition, no way would McNair ever get rid of a coach after having a health scare. Knowing McNair, he'll probably blame the fans for putting too much pressure on Gary, getting him stressed out enough to get sick (yep, I'm serious).

It may sound like I'm talking nonsense, but, I judge actions, not words. The Texans say one thing, but their actions tell a different story.

houstonspartan
11-07-2013, 01:44 PM
The only comment I would make as far as continuing the "Bullock experiment" is that the more his kicks factor into losing games the more he will undoubtedly have a very strong negative effect of the entire team's psyche, just as Schaub's picks did.

Cloak,

Exactly. I didn't even mention the message that they're sending to other players by not holding Bullock accountable. Look at how much this team came alive once Schaub was benched and Keenum went in.

Thorn
11-07-2013, 01:56 PM
They aren't getting rid of Bullock because he's Kubiak's guy and Kubiak is out sick at the moment.

But, if I'm the GM or head coach I wouldn't be letting that stop me. Not if I care about winning.

houstonspartan
11-07-2013, 02:05 PM
They aren't getting rid of Bullock because he's Kubiak's guy and Kubiak is out sick at the moment.

But, if I'm the GM or head coach I wouldn't be letting that stop me. Not if I care about winning.

Correct. Rick Smith SHOULD step in here and make this change, and would be justified and well within the scope of his job to do so.

disaacks3
11-07-2013, 02:15 PM
The only comment I would make as far as continuing the "Bullock experiment" is that the more his kicks factor into losing games the more he will undoubtedly have a very strong negative effect of the entire team's psyche, just as Schaub's picks did. The good Doctor makes a salient point.

This goes with my feelings on the Texans Defense - As angry as I saw Duane Brown get when Schaub threw a pick-6, I can only imagine how motivated the Texans "D" was at that point. It sure can't help them watching our kicker shank another one either.

Exascor
11-07-2013, 02:42 PM
The only comment I would make as far as continuing the "Bullock experiment" is that the more his kicks factor into losing games the more he will undoubtedly have a very strong negative effect of the entire team's psyche, just as Schaub's picks did.I can't argue that point Doc. You are probably right. His leash should still probably be fairly short. His kicks have possibly cost the team 1 game. Kareem Jackson's penalties have possibly cost us 2. We could go on with most of the players. I know it's easy to single out the kicker. He has 2 jobs - make kicks and kick off. He has been terrible at one and not good at the other. That puts him in line with most of the players on the team this season. Everyone not named AJ have been performing poorly.

The only point that could possibly counter yours is - what if he makes an awesome recovery and starts making all of his kicks? What does that do to the team's psyche?

I'm not saying Bullock SHOULD be kept. Only that the team has no huge reason to cut 1 underperforming player on a team full of them.

Exascor
11-07-2013, 02:57 PM
Lol. That's funny. So, you agree with me.Sure - on that point.

Re: Trindon Holliday. My point was: it goes HIGHER than Trindon Holliday. He was mismanged and coached poorly. That's a result of them letting Joe Marciano do whatever he wants with zero accountability. Heck, instead of firing him, they actually got him a freaking ASSISTANT this year. And what good did that do?100% agree. See my signature.

Our head coach is a "qb guru." That's been his label. Ok. So, why wasn't he able to plan for this QB mess in advance? Shouldn't he have had a Plan B in place for our QB, if he's such an expert? Shouldn't he have seen that Schaub was on a downward slope?Hi. My name is Case Keenum. I am the solution Coach Kubiak had in mind.

And, about the Texans being patient. Ok, maybe. But, they are living in a bubble. Professionally, we are all measured against our peers. It's how life works. The Texans act as if it takes 8 years to improve a team, and that, if you just let people do their jobs long enough, they will eventually succeed. That's simply not true. Other teams do major turn-around's in a few years. It's the reality of the NFL. There is no other team in the NFL that would keep a kicker after missing three field goals during a nationally-televised game. It simply would not happen on other teams.Texans improved in year 1 of the Kubiak era. I won't get into it again in this thread but basically years 1-3 have legitimate reasons to be overlooked when evaluating the Kubiak era. If you think I'm calling for Kubes to be back - see my signature.

You said that they are patient because they wanted to create a stable team. Ok. Do you consider this team "stable?" We have a team full of superstars that are poorly managed and are likely getting tired of playing for a mediocre team. No matter what the players say publicly, they are likely fed up with this team privately.

There is a difference between stable and stagnant.After the start of this season - again I agree. See my signature.

We are likely stuck with Gary Kubiak for several more years to come, regardless of his success rate. I am starting to accept that. In addition, no way would McNair ever get rid of a coach after having a health scare. Knowing McNair, he'll probably blame the fans for putting too much pressure on Gary, getting him stressed out enough to get sick (yep, I'm serious).

It may sound like I'm talking nonsense, but, I judge actions, not words. The Texans say one thing, but their actions tell a different story.I don't agree with this though. McNair will do what he does every year. He'll weigh the pros and cons of keeping Kubiak. Getting rid of Kubiak is risky. Many head coaches excel in their second jobs after having some success in the first. Is it a change of scenery or just that the coaches are better than their records were. I think that if Keenum tears through the next 8 games under Kubiak then McNair will have trouble letting him go. If Keenum struggles badly and this team bombs, McNair could easily fire or change Kubiak's position within the organization. Kubiak getting ill should have little influence on McNair's decision - imo.

HOU-TEX
11-07-2013, 03:15 PM
We should go ahead and sign him to an extension and get that out of the way.

steelbtexan
11-07-2013, 03:39 PM
Correct. Rick Smith SHOULD step in here and make this change, and would be justified and well within the scope of his job to do so.

He cant, Gary has final say on the 53 man roster. It's in his contract.

Fact is, Gary Kubiak is the reason this team is where it is. These are his handpicked players.

With that said Get Well Soon Gary

False Start
11-07-2013, 05:45 PM
Bullock is so fat all he wants for Christmas is to see his feet.

He has Dick-do disease, his belly sticks out further than his richard do. :heh:

Number19
11-07-2013, 06:18 PM
I can't f'ing believe we are keeping our kicker.. wtf..This is not hard to believe. With Kubiak laid up, Smith is the only one who could make a decision and it would be in bad taste to do so. As soon as Kubes is back and capable of being in on the decision you might see some action being taken.

Thorn
11-07-2013, 06:30 PM
He has Dick-do disease, his belly sticks out further than his richard do. :heh:

Bullock is so fat he generates his own gravitational pull

Which could explain his kicking accuracy

silvrhand
11-07-2013, 07:14 PM
This is not hard to believe. With Kubiak laid up, Smith is the only one who could make a decision and it would be in bad taste to do so. As soon as Kubes is back and capable of being in on the decision you might see some action being taken.

Nope, I think I figured it out on the way home.. we are going for 2-14 for the draft!!

eriadoc
11-07-2013, 07:18 PM
From the Houston Texans Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/HoustonTexans):

"We're going to continue to go with Randy. He certainly knows and we told him, and everybody else knows. He’s got to get it done."

READ: http://bit.ly/17cbk2P — with Jose Alonso.

I'm glad he now knows he has to get it done. Him not knowing that before was a problem.

Thorn
11-07-2013, 07:22 PM
From the Houston Texans Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/HoustonTexans):



I'm glad he now knows he has to get it done. Him not knowing that before was a problem.

:lol:

eriadoc wins the sarcasm post of the month award. MSR

Texan_Bill
11-07-2013, 07:47 PM
He has Dick-do disease, his belly sticks out further than his richard do. :heh:

Dude, I can remember when I would look down and not only not see my "Big Bill" but I couldn't see my toes either. Now, that's a boiler!! WTH??!?!!?.... :smiliepalm:

CloakNNNdagger
11-07-2013, 08:18 PM
:lol:

eriadoc wins the sarcasm post of the month award. MSR

:lol: Got him for you!

Scooter
11-07-2013, 08:30 PM
i'm no expert. i've rewatched the 3 misses from sunday repeatedly and i just dont like his form at all. first off, he's slightly different on each. he begins his first two with a slight lean back or hesitation. he also seems to be a bit bouncy on his approach, not settling himself with his right leg and making the plant more difficult. i prefer a much more solid right foot than being on your toes to calm and balance the next step. finally he's more over the top of the ball than i like, which can aid in distance at the cost of accuracy. the last kick he was off-balance from the get go, falling off to his left before finishing the first step.

in my opinion the least important part of the kick is the kick itsself. it's all about the approach - step, plant, swing. you have to be balanced and you have to be accurate with your plant foot. this is even more important when you're struggling. players often get too worried about the situation and lose their form, or they try to adjust instead of getting the simple mechanics right. much like chuck hayes who could shoot freethrows in college, but looked like he was having a seizure by the end of his pro career.

it's my conclusion that he's got too much to fix. he cant calm his mind enough to perform in stressful situations, and he has mechanical flaws as well that will be very difficult to iron out. as such he's probably going to be pretty streaky his entire career.

CloakNNNdagger
11-07-2013, 10:33 PM
http://www.stuffonbread.com/comics/2012-02-05-field%20goal.jpg

TejasTom
11-07-2013, 10:38 PM
Can someone going to the game plant one of these in Randy's room?

http://shootthecenterfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/low-smoke270.jpg

silvrhand
11-07-2013, 11:04 PM
i'm no expert. i've rewatched the 3 misses from sunday repeatedly and i just dont like his form at all. first off, he's slightly different on each. he begins his first two with a slight lean back or hesitation. he also seems to be a bit bouncy on his approach, not settling himself with his right leg and making the plant more difficult. i prefer a much more solid right foot than being on your toes to calm and balance the next step. finally he's more over the top of the ball than i like, which can aid in distance at the cost of accuracy. the last kick he was off-balance from the get go, falling off to his left before finishing the first step.

in my opinion the least important part of the kick is the kick itsself. it's all about the approach - step, plant, swing. you have to be balanced and you have to be accurate with your plant foot. this is even more important when you're struggling. players often get too worried about the situation and lose their form, or they try to adjust instead of getting the simple mechanics right. much like chuck hayes who could shoot freethrows in college, but looked like he was having a seizure by the end of his pro career.

it's my conclusion that he's got too much to fix. he cant calm his mind enough to perform in stressful situations, and he has mechanical flaws as well that will be very difficult to iron out. as such he's probably going to be pretty streaky his entire career.

Did you stay at a holiday inn last night?

Scooter
11-07-2013, 11:12 PM
Did you stay at a holiday inn last night?

how did you know?!?! :doot:

hradhak
11-08-2013, 07:52 AM
i'm no expert. i've rewatched the 3 misses from sunday repeatedly and i just dont like his form at all. first off, he's slightly different on each. he begins his first two with a slight lean back or hesitation. he also seems to be a bit bouncy on his approach, not settling himself with his right leg and making the plant more difficult. i prefer a much more solid right foot than being on your toes to calm and balance the next step. finally he's more over the top of the ball than i like, which can aid in distance at the cost of accuracy. the last kick he was off-balance from the get go, falling off to his left before finishing the first step.

in my opinion the least important part of the kick is the kick itsself. it's all about the approach - step, plant, swing. you have to be balanced and you have to be accurate with your plant foot. this is even more important when you're struggling. players often get too worried about the situation and lose their form, or they try to adjust instead of getting the simple mechanics right. much like chuck hayes who could shoot freethrows in college, but looked like he was having a seizure by the end of his pro career.

it's my conclusion that he's got too much to fix. he cant calm his mind enough to perform in stressful situations, and he has mechanical flaws as well that will be very difficult to iron out. as such he's probably going to be pretty streaky his entire career.

Again, I think this shows that Marciano needs to go. You've got a kicker with a great leg, but who doesn't have someone telling him his swing flaws. I think we need to get rid of everyone on ST except Lechler in the offseason. Bullock can stay to improve our draft status.

speedfreek
11-08-2013, 08:16 AM
>Again, I think this shows that Marciano needs to go. You've got a kicker with a great leg, but who doesn't have someone telling him his swing flaws.

It's very likely that is the thinking going on in the front office.

Perhaps Gary and Rick believe that Marciano is incapable of fixing the
flaws, but someone else might...

Maybe they go with another ST coach in the offseason believing that
Bollocks is a keeper with the right coaching..

TJ

silvrhand
11-08-2013, 08:22 AM
how did you know?!?! :doot:

LOL sorry that commercial popped into my head for some reason with the fat kicker at a game and you came in on the sidelines.

:chef:

Dutchrudder
11-08-2013, 09:59 AM
>Again, I think this shows that Marciano needs to go. You've got a kicker with a great leg, but who doesn't have someone telling him his swing flaws.

It's very likely that is the thinking going on in the front office.

Perhaps Gary and Rick believe that Marciano is incapable of fixing the
flaws, but someone else might...

Maybe they go with another ST coach in the offseason believing that
Bollocks is a keeper with the right coaching..

TJ

I'd love to know what radio frequency you use to pick up Smithiak's mindwaves, because all I'm getting is static.

eriadoc
11-08-2013, 10:27 AM
I'd love to know what radio frequency you use to pick up Smithiak's mindwaves, because all I'm getting is static.

Then you might actually be precisely tuned in.

speedfreek
11-08-2013, 10:34 AM
>I'd love to know what radio frequency you use to pick up Smithiak's mindwaves, because all I'm getting is static.

I picked it up pre stroke.. If you tune in now, static is all you get..

Seriously though, if you look at Jacoby and Trindon, it's not
all that unfathomable to think that Gary and Rick could conceive
of the Bollocks issue being related to poor tutelage.

TJ

htowntexans1985
11-08-2013, 01:17 PM
@JPalmerCSN : Randy Bullock
brought in his kicking coach he's had
since HS on Tuesday. Found him on the
internet. #Texans


He said screw Marciano. Lol!!!!

HOU-TEX
11-08-2013, 01:22 PM
:lol: How about have him work on kicking before getting his big ass down the field faster. Imo, he threw Marciano under the bus with these comments

James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN 33m
Randy Bullock said he's been working the last weeks at being faster to the ball. #Texans have been telling him to get down field quicker.

False Start
11-08-2013, 02:54 PM
From Clutch Fans:

http://i.minus.com/ibbuf9gB8XBPOO.gif

:lol:

CloakNNNdagger
11-08-2013, 07:08 PM
Think about THESE impressive numbers:

1] Only 48.5 percent of his kickoffs have been touchbacks. 25th in NFL

2] He hasn't made any of his four tries from 50 yards or more.

steelbtexan
11-08-2013, 07:12 PM
Dutch and Speedfreak = Aggie on Aggie crime. LOL

htownfan32
11-08-2013, 07:23 PM
Dutch and Speedfreak = Aggie on Aggie crime. LOL

I think Speedfreak's a Cougar. Prof pic?

Scooter
11-08-2013, 08:25 PM
LOL sorry that commercial popped into my head for some reason with the fat kicker at a game and you came in on the sidelines.

:chef:

wait, how do you know what i look like? or did you picture a dancing cartoon baby coming onto the field?
:francis:

TexansBull
11-17-2013, 05:58 PM
Way to go Randy hitting your kicks today for Schaub and Kubiak. Are you part of their love fest?

Why couldn't you hit one for Case?

ATXtexanfan
11-17-2013, 06:03 PM
Way to go Randy hitting your kicks today for Schaub and Kubiak. Are you part of their love fest?

Why couldn't you hit one for Case?

Lol that hadn't crossed my mind

Trail.Blazr
11-17-2013, 07:36 PM
Lol that hadn't crossed my mind

Right?

You know it's bad when Bullock gets ragged on for making his kicks!

I'll join in with a big F-U to K-Mart for his stupid punt return. GTFO with that $hite!