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Oilersfan96
10-24-2013, 12:54 AM
Starting a petition to get back the the rights to the Oilers name, Uniforms and records. We'll have our history back, be able to hang earl and moons jerseys among others as well as use the oilers throwback jerseys. I wish we could go back to being the oilers instead of the texans but thats unlikely. Please email, and share this on FB, Twitter etc etc. Lets spread the word and get back whats ours.

https://www.change.org/petitions/ten...n-texans#share

Lurvinator11
10-24-2013, 12:55 AM
No. As much as we would love it, the Texans are their own franchise.

Plus, I'm pretty sure the titans org won't let go of that history.

Oilersfan96
10-24-2013, 01:00 AM
No. As much as we would love it, the Texans are their own franchise.

Plus, I'm pretty sure the titans org won't let go of that history.

This isnt to replace the texans. Its to give us back our records, throwbacks ect. They belong to the city of Houston. The Oilers are the reason Houston has any major league teams. They meant more to this city than any team has or likely ever will.

Carr Bombed
10-24-2013, 01:08 AM
The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.

Lurvinator11
10-24-2013, 01:08 AM
This isnt to replace the texans. Its to give us back our records, throwbacks ect. They belong to the city of Houston. The Oilers are the reason Houston has any major league teams. They meant more to this city than any team has or likely ever will.

I know it's not to replace the Texans. But what your suggesting is adding the Houston portion of the Oilers franchise to the Texans, and honoring them at Texans games and what not.

I seriously doubt the Titans org will ever go for an idea like this. Despite the fact that we loved the oilers, they have moved on, and I'd have to assume a good amount of our fan base has moved on as well. Sure we hate Bud for what he did, but once again our franchise is different from their franchise.

Now, honoring the oilers in some sort of sports museum here in Houston would be an awesome idea. I could actually see that happening, but as far as actually using names and players here at the Texans games, I just don't see that.

Plus, The Astros had a pretty big following as well. So I wouldn't go as far as to say the Oilers are the only reason Houston has any major league team. I mean, people were calling for the Astros to become a team back in the 50's when they were the Houston Buffs, a minor league team for the St. Louis Cardinals.

Brisco_County
10-24-2013, 01:09 AM
This isnt to replace the texans. Its to give us back our records, throwbacks ect. They belong to the city of Houston. The Oilers are the reason Houston has any major league teams. They meant more to this city than any team has or likely ever will.

That's great. What's in it for the Titans owners?

Oilersfan96
10-24-2013, 01:13 AM
That's great. What's in it for the Titans owners?

Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

Lurvinator11
10-24-2013, 01:18 AM
Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

So why didn't Indy give the rights of the Colts back to Baltimore?

I mean, they didn't do it, so why should the Titans?

Carr Bombed
10-24-2013, 01:24 AM
Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

That's because their owner, despite the fact that he moved the team.. still had a hint of class. Unlike Bud and Irsay who packed up and moved his team under the cover of darkness during a snow storm.

Oilersfan96
10-24-2013, 01:26 AM
The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.

Just because you have a big market doesn't mean people are going to support a team. We dont have a pro hockey team do we? nope. The oilers proved that Houston Could draw people into stadiums. From that we proved we could have major league teams.

Vance87
10-24-2013, 01:28 AM
Meh. Cleveland got their history back and they suck. Maybe the Browns name is cursed, maybe the Oilers name is cursed.

Oilersfan96
10-24-2013, 01:28 AM
So why didn't Indy give the rights of the Colts back to Baltimore?

I mean, they didn't do it, so why should the Titans?

Because the colts didn't change their name.... They are still the Colts.

Carr Bombed
10-24-2013, 01:38 AM
Just because you have a big market doesn't mean people are going to support a team. We dont have a pro hockey team do we? nope. The oilers proved that Houston Could draw people into stadiums. From that we proved we could have major league teams.

LOL, your argument that Houston wouldn't of had another sports team is because we don't have a NHL team? Who cares if they don't have a NHL team, this isn't really a hockey town is it? And Houston still was a front runner to land the Penguins before Mario Lemieux stepped in and saved the franchise.

With all the movement of sports teams throughout the last couple of decades (to even small markets that can barely support them) you're crazy if you think the 4th largest city in America wouldn't be able to land a major sports team. The Oilers being here are not the only reason why we have pro baseball, pro basketball, and pro soccer,... and another pro football team. And know they're not here because the "Oilers proved the citizens would support a pro team". Big market cities get pro teams, because pro teams are owned by successful business men. Successful business men want to do business in major markets.

Norg
10-24-2013, 01:47 AM
TBO I don't want da history it left to ten sio year


Texans till I die is all I care about

Oilersfan96
10-24-2013, 01:49 AM
LOL, your argument that Houston wouldn't of had another sports team is because we don't have a NHL team? Who cares if they don't have a NHL team, this isn't really a hockey town is it? And Houston still was a front runner to land the Penguins before Mario Lemieux stepped in and saved the franchise.

With all the movement of sports teams throughout the last couple of decades (to even small markets that can barely support them) you're crazy if you think the 4th largest city in America wouldn't be able to land a major sports team. The Oilers being here are not the only reason why we have pro baseball, pro basketball, and pro soccer,... and another pro football team. And know they're not here because the "Oilers proved the citizens would support a pro team". Big market cities get pro teams, because pro teams are owned by successful business men. Successful business men want to do business in major markets.

Yes, and Im sure we would might still have had other franchises without the oilers but how often does the NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA and other create expansions. Answer is not all that often and without what the oilers were able to do in the AFL, we would likely not have the Pro teams we have now. You say big market cities get pro teams... So then why didn't LA get the football team. They have the 2nd biggest TV market... by your logic we shoudn't have got the Texans since we are something like 9th or 10th on that list. Big market isn't everything its where will I make the most money. If nobody in that city can prove worthy of it then they wont get it. Just like why we don't have a NHL team. Before the Oilers left McNair was trying to bid on a Houston NHL team. The NHL shot us down for obvious reasons. Who knows though, had we got a team and the oilers left, McNair would probably not had pursued a Houston Expansion team to the NFL and we may not have the Texans.

infantrycak
10-24-2013, 01:57 AM
Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

That's because their owner, despite the fact that he moved the team.. still had a hint of class. Unlike Bud and Irsay who packed up and moved his team under the cover of darkness during a snow storm.

Baltimore didn't give anything back and it wasn't about class. A deal was cut to have the players of an existing team move and be deemed a new team and Cleveland was promised a team and given the history. If they hadn't left the history, the NFL wasn't going to let it happen.

So then why didn't LA get the football team.

C'mon, that argument doesn't even make sense. LA has repeatedly had franchises. Not holding onto is not the same as not getting.

They have had the Los Angeles Chargers, Rams and Raiders. Los Angeles was awarded the 32nd franchise but couldn't meet the conditions and so Houston got the Texans.

Carr Bombed
10-24-2013, 01:58 AM
Yes, and Im sure we would might still have had other franchises without the oilers but how often does the NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA and other create expansions. Answer is not all that often and without what the oilers were able to do in the AFL, we would likely not have the Pro teams we have now. You say big market cities get pro teams... So then why didn't LA get the football team. They have the 2nd biggest TV market... by your logic we shoudn't have got the Texans since we are something like 9th or 10th on that list. Big market isn't everything its where will I make the most money. If nobody in that city don't prove worthy of it then they wont get it. Just like why we don't have a NHL team. Before the Oilers left McNair was trying to bid on a Houston NHL team. The NHL shot us down for obvious reasons. Who knows though, had we got a team and the oilers left, McNair would probably not had pursued a Houston Expansion team to the NFL and we may not have the Texans.

Los Angeles has the Lakers, the Clippers, the Dodgers, the Angels, the Kings, and the Galaxy (6 pro teams).. They've had the Rams and the Raiders.. and the NFL is still hell bent on getting another NFL team back into that city even if they'll have to eventually rip another team away from a smaller city (Jacksonville).

So yes again.. big market cities get pro teams. It is completely crazy to think Houston wouldn't be playing any pro major league ball if the Oilers never existed.

As far as this petition, the entire city could sign it and the Titans would just laugh.. no way in hell would they ever hand over their history (even though it came in another city) to a divisional rival. No way at all.

Txn_in_FL
10-24-2013, 02:44 AM
Why does this continue to be an issue with people? I grew up on the Oilers and hated it when they left, but geez... it's over man. It was great while it lasted. Actually, was it really that great? Having your heart snatched out of your chest constantly isn't something I recall as being too much fun.

It would have been great if they got the rights to everything, but in the end would it have been that great? I think the clean break that happened is what was needed. I only wish they would tear the dome down and completely exorcise the demons.

To be honest, now that Bud isn't in the picture, my rage towards the Titans has strangely subsided.

Nitrofish
10-24-2013, 07:25 AM
The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.

WOW! Something you and I can finally agree on, oh wait. You put me on ignore didn't you. lol

Exascor
10-24-2013, 07:30 AM
The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.This. :fans:

thunderkyss
10-24-2013, 07:52 AM
I think it would be nice to do something in honor of BumPhillips' passing. But since he's an "Oiler" I doubt we'll be able to, no matter how much since it makes.

I'd be frustrated as a player, knowing how much it would mean to my coach.

Thorn
10-24-2013, 07:52 AM
meh.....spilt milk and all that.

I've spent a long lifetime following the Oilers and now the Texans. I don't care if the Titans own the Oilers history, I still love Earl and Bum and all the others. This is akin to the thread about trading AJ to another team and being more loyal to the player than to the team.

The Texans represent Houston. The Titans represent Tennessee. Spilt milk, water under the bridge and all those other clichés are appropriate here.

HJam72
10-24-2013, 08:17 AM
Personally, I think it's laughable that anyone in Tennessee thinks the Oilers are their history. Doesn't bother me, though. They can have most of it anyway.

speedfreek
10-24-2013, 09:21 AM
Would love to, but TN simply won't let it happen.

After all, they have such a long and storied NFL history..

TJ

Dread-Head
10-24-2013, 10:26 AM
Because the colts didn't change their name.... They are still the Colts.

It would be great to look at a "ring of honor" and see the names of Mike Munchiak, Ken Houston, George Blanda, Earl Campbell and Mr. Warren Moon, but the Oilers are NFL history. They ceased to be. It was a great era in which to be alive, but we can't go back. Houston belongs to the Texans now.

Playoffs
10-24-2013, 11:20 AM
It would be great to look at a "ring of honor" and see the names of Mike Munchiak, Ken Houston, George Blanda, Earl Campbell and Mr. Warren Moon, but the Oilers...

...were stolen from us and there's nothing we can do about it. It was nice knowing he had to fly 750 miles to attend a "home" game. He was pretty much shunned in his circles here in Houston. His "friends" were all on his payroll. And he became a bitter old man who lived and died alone.

But the history is here in Houston -- he can't steal that.

jaayteetx
10-24-2013, 11:24 AM
I was a huge Oiler fan back in the day but that day has long ago past. Former Oilers who want to embrace the city have no problems being accommodated by the Texans from what I can see. Let possum holler keep the name for all I care.

Seegara
10-24-2013, 11:30 AM
So why didn't Indy give the rights of the Colts back to Baltimore?

I mean, they didn't do it, so why should the Titans?
Because the Colts remained the Colts when they moved. The Titans voluntarily changed their name from Oilers.

The Cleveland Browns became the Baltimore Ravens and the new team in Cleveland called themselves the Browns, similar to what OP proposes.

But for heaven's sake let's not call ourselves the Oilers, who were the laughing stock of the league because of their litany of dreadful coaching (which, by the way, we are challenging). I do wish we would officially become the Toros, to match our logo, and calling ourselves Texans is too boastful.

infantrycak
10-24-2013, 01:36 PM
I think it would be nice to do something in honor of BumPhillips' passing. But since he's an "Oiler" I doubt we'll be able to, no matter how much since it makes.

The Texans have honored numerous other Oilers as Houston sports figures. Bud isn't going to complain.

Dread-Head
10-24-2013, 02:53 PM
The Texans have honored numerous other Oilers as Houston sports figures. Bud isn't going to complain.

Better yet...let's ask him. Bud...you have any issue with us honring the former OILERS? (listening intently)...guess not.

:dread:

Dutchrudder
10-24-2013, 03:06 PM
Let's not and say we didn't.

Dan B.
10-24-2013, 03:14 PM
I think the Texans could do it. Money talks. The question is would it be worth it?

I'd like to see the Texans were Oiler jerseys on alternate days at least. Make the Titans wear a QB practice jersey a few times a year.

Hervoyel
10-24-2013, 04:28 PM
That was my team and not a day goes by when I don't think about the Oilers or something related to them. Having said that and having really meant it... Let it go. War's over and Bud the worm dropped the big one. Gotta move on.

Exascor
10-24-2013, 04:42 PM
War's over and Bud the worm dropped the big one. Gotta move on. ...and now Bud is being eaten by worms. The cycle is complete.

Lurvinator11
10-24-2013, 05:01 PM
Coming back and reading through this thread again. All of OP's reasons are faulty at best. In fact in his Original post, he even said the Texans should be called the Oilers again.
I do want to point out that the NHL didn't award us a team because they don't want to expand. Something they still haven't done to this day. They have just moved former teams to new places.
I think everyone agrees, the Texans are the Texans. Not the Oilers. TIme to move on.

utahmark
10-24-2013, 06:04 PM
Might as well bring back all my ex wifes as well.

Thorn
10-24-2013, 07:01 PM
Might as well bring back all my ex wifes as well.

They make pills for when you start having thoughts like that.

kingtexan
10-24-2013, 07:41 PM
The Oilers died when the team rolled out of town.

We will always have the memories, but the stats, the pain, and the name belonged to Bud Adams. It was always more about him than the team or the city in his mind.

So, no thanks.

Houston has a team, they are named the Texans.

Dread-Head
10-25-2013, 12:12 PM
The Oilers died when the team rolled out of town.

We will always have the memories, but the stats, the pain, and the name belonged to Bud Adams. It was always more about him than the team or the city in his mind.

So, no thanks.

Houston has a team, they are named the Texans.



I LOVED the Superbowl he made it to and how close he was to the Lombardi. :trophy: When homeboy was denied the endzone by a FOOTand the clock ran out I was the happiest muff-hugga on EARTH! In my mind I could hear the immortal Don Addams saying:

"Missed it by ...that much."

False Start
10-25-2013, 12:49 PM
As much as I loved the Oilers, I am perfectly fine with the Texans. I like having our own identity.

Double Barrel
10-25-2013, 01:10 PM
Answer is not all that often and without what the oilers were able to do in the AFL, we would likely not have the Pro teams we have now.

*COUGH*BS*COUGH*

You need to learn your history before posting nonsense.

For instance, did you know that the NFL was planning an expansion team in Houston in 1960?

Bud Adams prevented it from happening by pulling strings to keep Rice Stadium from being used by the NFL.

So the NFL put a team in Dallas instead.

Read the history of the Oilers to educate yourself.

Here are some good places to start:

Oiler Blues: The Story of Pro Football's Most Frustrating Team (http://www.amazon.com/Oiler-Blues-Story-Footballs-Frustrating/dp/1891422006)

Loser Takes All: Bud Adams, Bad Football, & Big Business (http://www.amazon.com/Loser-Takes-All-Football-Business/dp/1563524325/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1382720622&sr=1-2&keywords=loser+takes+all)

The Little League That Could: A History of the American Football League (http://www.amazon.com/The-Little-League-That-Could/dp/1589794621/ref=pd_sim_b_9)

I have fond memories of the Oilers, and no doubt a small part of me wishes Bud never took them from us.

But he did and nothing is going to change it.

So the Houston Oilers lives on in our collective memories, hearts, and a display at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That display, of course, belongs to the Tennessee Titans.

"Cause yesterday don't mean ****
What's over is over and nothing between
Yesterday don't mean ****
Because tomorrow's the day you have to face"
~ Phil Anselmo

Go Texans :texflag:

Showtime100
10-27-2013, 04:38 PM
This isnt to replace the texans. Its to give us back our records, throwbacks ect. They belong to the city of Houston. The Oilers are the reason Houston has any major league teams. They meant more to this city than any team has or likely ever will.

Please read A Six-Gun Salute: An Illustrated History of the Houston Colt .45s and come back here and tell me that again.

http://www.amazon.com/Six-Gun-Salute-Illustrated-History-Houston/dp/0884152839