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thetexanator
10-22-2013, 11:16 PM
man im starting to think about it. i wish we keep him, but i think he deserves a chance with a contender.
would like to see him with brady.

possibly frees up money, maybe gets us a 3rd rder and AJ gets to make a deep playoff run the next 2 years.

i know its not gunna happen, but id like to see it. guy is a hf that deserves better than this.

b0ng
10-22-2013, 11:17 PM
No.

thetexanator
10-22-2013, 11:18 PM
No.

even if it means he gets a ring?

Tonaaayyyy
10-22-2013, 11:22 PM
Tough one. I would like to see him contend too, but I'm sure he is really loyal to this city and has settled in for good. Doubt he would leave this franchise through the last years of his career. JMO

Vance87
10-22-2013, 11:34 PM
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76Texan
10-22-2013, 11:43 PM
With Schaub gone next year, and probably Wade Smith too, and the Ninja either gone or taking a pay cut, we can get an upgrade on the D-line while still able to extend Watt's contract.

Draft a RT and a G; we can get AJ a ring.

thetexanator
10-22-2013, 11:46 PM
With Schaub gone next year, and probably Wade Smith too, and the Ninja either gone or taking a pay cut, we can get an upgrade on the D-line while still able to extend Watt's contract.

Draft a RT and a G; we can get AJ a ring.

whos our qb?

infantrycak
10-23-2013, 12:07 AM
When did the Texans become a charity? A 3rd rounder is absurd. I frankly don't care if AJ gets a SB ring unless it is with the Texans. And most importantly it would kill the Texans' cap with dead money.

thunderkyss
10-23-2013, 12:27 AM
Hey, if it's ok to start stupid threads now, can I start an Andrew Luck vs Case Keenum thread yet?


Statistically his first game makes it a viable argument & it's the question we'll be asking for years if Keenum is our future.

qqert
10-23-2013, 12:42 AM
r u crazy

fiasco west
10-23-2013, 12:48 AM
No.

I don't get the whole "I want him to win elsewhere."

It would suck if Andre were to win a championship somewhere else IMO because that would be the team he may think more fondly of. Suddenly that becomes the team he's remembered for playing on in everywhere but Houston.

So no.

Big Lou
10-23-2013, 01:12 AM
Draft a RT and a G; we can get AJ a ring.

Sh!t, only if Old Bob takes him to Zales..........

TexanSam
10-23-2013, 01:44 AM
Absolutely not.

76Texan
10-23-2013, 01:46 AM
whos our qb?

Keenum, obviously.

You get him on the cheap; use the savings to shore up other positions.

There are more exciting possibilities in the draft in 2015 and beyond.
The Freshman from Fla St. for example, Jameis Winston; he's the number one QB prospect in his class and he has done incredibly well.
Another possibility is in our own backyard, another QB from UH (hailed from Florida); he has the size that Keenum doesn't have.
Just to name a few.

TheMatrix31
10-23-2013, 01:57 AM
Uh, no.

Corrosion
10-23-2013, 02:20 AM
A 3rd rounder is absurd. I frankly don't care if AJ gets a SB ring unless it is with the Texans. And most importantly it would kill the Texans' cap with dead money.

The Ravens only got a 6th for Bouldin who's cap hit is close to what AJ's will be next year .... I think they are comparable players at this point in their careers.

A 6th .... seems absolutely nucking futs for him , I wouldn't expect much more (If at all) for AJ ....

The second point , yeah since they have redone his deal so damn many times , all that bonus $$$ would hit the cap immediately .... I don't know how much it is , but its likely a whole lot.


Trading AJ is pointless .... You'd get little return and have a sh!tload of dead money.

I like the idea of the salary cap .... I just don't like the execution of it by the NFL , its so prohibitive to player movement and doesn't allow teams the ability to maximize return on players via trade.
I much prefer the NBA version .... it allows for a whole lot more flexibility for players and teams in terms of player movement.

Wolf6151
10-23-2013, 02:23 AM
While I'd hate to see him go I understand your point of view and he does deserve to play for a contender and not go through a rebuilding process this late in his career. It all depends on what we'd get for him in trade.

ObsiWan
10-23-2013, 02:44 AM
man im starting to think about it. i wish we keep him, but i think he deserves a chance with a contender.
would like to see him with brady.

possibly frees up money, maybe gets us a 3rd rder and AJ gets to make a deep playoff run the next 2 years.

i know its not gunna happen, but id like to see it. guy is a hf that deserves better than this.

Only if that's what HE wants.

Now from everything I've ever heard or read, that's not where his head is at. He wants one - naturally, everyone who plays does - but I think he wants to get it here.

Corrosion
10-23-2013, 03:11 AM
Only if that's what HE wants.


Doesn't matter what he wants .... It makes no sense for the team to trade #80 , no return on the investment and a massive cap hit.

The idea of giving AJ an opportunity with a contender is nice and all .... Its just not realistic.


/lock thread.

imatexan
10-23-2013, 03:17 AM
The Ravens only got a 6th for Bouldin who's cap hit is close to what AJ's will be next year .... I think they are comparable players at this point in their careers.

A 6th .... seems absolutely nucking futs for him , I wouldn't expect much more (If at all) for AJ ....

The second point , yeah since they have redone his deal so damn many times , all that bonus $$$ would hit the cap immediately .... I don't know how much it is , but its likely a whole lot.


Trading AJ is pointless .... You'd get little return and have a sh!tload of dead money.

I like the idea of the salary cap .... I just don't like the execution of it by the NFL , its so prohibitive to player movement and doesn't allow teams the ability to maximize return on players via trade.
I much prefer the NBA version .... it allows for a whole lot more flexibility for players and teams in terms of player movement.

No to the OP question.

I also think if Andre is traded tomorrow we absolutely get higher than a 6th for him.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-23-2013, 03:30 AM
AJ has been fairly compensated playing for the Texans. They owe him nothing.

Thorn
10-23-2013, 07:36 AM
Let's keep AJ and trade Kubiak. :lol:

Rey
10-23-2013, 07:40 AM
I wouldn't trade AJ for the simple fact that I believe this team can still win a ring next year with a good off season this go round.

Pollardized
10-23-2013, 07:50 AM
If Rick Smith could get anything more than a quart of outdated milk and a used condom for Kubiak he would deserve 3 executive of the year awards and a Nobel prize.

Uncle Rico
10-23-2013, 07:59 AM
Dre deserves the chance to be on a legitimate contender, he has max 3 years left. I find the argument that he's been "paid accordingly" quite narrow and self serving. How many times has he restructured to give team flexibility? He's been patient, a great professional and if he even hinted at wanting out I would hope he wasn't held hostage.

I wouldn't initiate a deal because you wouldn't get as much as you would think, but if he wished to go then you grant him his release.

2012Champs
10-23-2013, 08:15 AM
Dre deserves the chance to be on a legitimate contender, he has max 3 years left. I find the argument that he's been "paid accordingly" quite narrow and self serving. How many times has he restructured to give team flexibility? He's been patient, a great professional and if he even hinted at wanting out I would hope he wasn't held hostage.

I wouldn't initiate a deal because you wouldn't get as much as you would think, but if he wished to go then you grant him his release.



When has he restructed and got the short end of the deal? The restructures always benefited Dre

DBCooper
10-23-2013, 08:30 AM
Fantasy football mentality.

Team. That's all there is in this sport.

If he's not on my team I'm not rooting for him.

No.

Uncle Rico
10-23-2013, 08:30 AM
When has he restructed and got the short end of the deal? The restructures always benefited Dre

Thats right he was the one who asked the team to stretch out his payments. It's not Andres fault that the GM can't figure it out and has to routinely ask the veterans to take less money in order to meet his budget.

Should Dre just give money back? I don't get your argument.

2012Champs
10-23-2013, 08:33 AM
Thats right he was the one who asked the team to stretch out his payments. It's not Andres fault that the GM can't figure it out and has to routinely ask the veterans to take less money in order to meet his budget.

Should Dre just give money back? I don't get your argument.



Clearly you dont get how restructures work. Andre was better off after each restructure. I never made mention of asking him for money back but lets not act like Dre did what was is in the best interest of the team and nothing else. He benefited too

Uncle Rico
10-23-2013, 08:38 AM
Clearly you dont get how restructures work. Andre was better off after each restructure. I never made mention of asking him for money back but lets not act like Dre did what was is in the best interest of the team and nothing else. He benefited too

I understand that, but at the behest of whom? He also didn't have to restructure, only did it because it would help the team at the time of the request.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-23-2013, 08:41 AM
I understand that, but at the behest of whom? He also didn't have to restructure, only did it because it would help the team at the time of the request.



And help himself. More guaranteed money up front.

Dread-Head
10-23-2013, 08:41 AM
Only if whomever we trade him to (as long as it isn't Dallas) wins a Superbowl the following year. I'd like to see him leave with a Superbowl ring. He deserves it. But insofar as trading him, he's an asset to the team and a real leader. You don't trade guys like that. You let them retire in your jersey so there can be no doubt as to which team they'll be listed with when they enter the hall of fame.

Honoring Earl 34
10-23-2013, 08:42 AM
It's actually a baseball mentality . If you stink and are out of the race , you have a liquadation sale to better your future .

In theory , if you think the Texans are a couple of pieces away , you keep him . If you think the ship has passed , you trade him . I have no idea where the Texans stand except I believe they way over valued themselves in certain areas and it's killed them .

2012Champs
10-23-2013, 08:50 AM
I understand that, but at the behest of whom? He also didn't have to restructure, only did it because it would help the team at the time of the request.



The team asked and he benefited. Of course he didnt have to but since he was getting benefits from it why wouldnt he go along? Please do tell me what reason he would reject their request

DBCooper
10-23-2013, 08:55 AM
It's actually a baseball mentality . If you stink and are out of the race , you have a liquadation sale to better your future .

In theory , if you think the Texans are a couple of pieces away , you keep him . If you think the ship has passed , you trade him . I have no idea where the Texans stand except I believe they way over valued themselves in certain areas and it's killed them .

Hey, I like your explanation better.

Hervoyel
10-23-2013, 09:00 AM
whos our qb?



Case Keenum. He's gonna make the magic happen!

Playoffs
10-23-2013, 09:03 AM
Never.

deucetx
10-23-2013, 09:09 AM
Eh, I guess maybe if we were the Jaguars with no freaking chance what so ever any time soon but this team still has quite a bit of talent. I just don't see us out of for the next couple of years at least if we can fix a couple of spots.

Honoring Earl 34
10-23-2013, 09:10 AM
Case Keenum. He's gonna make the magic happen!

If Case proves to be the real deal , that's a huge boost for the Texans future . I do think Case knows how to use players strengths like a good ponit guard which would allow them to get a Sproles type guy . I think this may help cure the 3rd and 8 yds but throw 4 yds with no YACs . I think with Case , we may even bring back the fade .

Uncle Rico
10-23-2013, 09:43 AM
The team asked and he benefited. Of course he didnt have to but since he was getting benefits from it why wouldnt he go along? Please do tell me what reason he would reject their request

The sense I'm getting is that Andre had some kind of selfish agenda to accept a longer term deal, and I won't cast that light on him. The team asked him to help them out, if it didn't benefit the team then why go through with it in the first place? Andre Johnson is a class act, and he will always do what's best for the team first. Did it benefit him? Sure it did. Did it benefit the team? Most certainly. Why would it behoove him not to take a bonus and alleviatec cap space? Good question, but it didn't only benefit Andre.

Maybe yourself, or someone with a firm understanding of cap management/finance could explain it to a blue collar guy like myself, what would be the benefit of dragging out the pay longer vs short term lump sum? Almost like the lottery? Do you get more up front in a cash payout vs interest over X amount of years?

If you need metal parts cut to a tolerance of .001 I'm your guy, finance not so much.

Vinnie
10-23-2013, 09:55 AM
This has to be the most absurd thing I've ever seen on Texanstalk and I've even spent time in the no spin zone!

Dutchrudder
10-23-2013, 10:01 AM
The Packers and Seahawks are the only contenders that have a lot of capspace and need a WR. I could see either of them making a play for AJ if he were available, but the 12 million or so in dead money makes it nearly impossible for the Texans to do. They would also need to move Antonio Smith and Wade Smith to get even close to staying under the cap. Although, I would love to see what AJ looks like with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him...

2012Champs
10-23-2013, 10:06 AM
The sense I'm getting is that Andre had some kind of selfish agenda to accept a longer term deal, and I won't cast that light on him. The team asked him to help them out, if it didn't benefit the team then why go through with it in the first place? Andre Johnson is a class act, and he will always do what's best for the team first. Did it benefit him? Sure it did. Did it benefit the team? Most certainly. Why would it behoove him not to take a bonus and alleviatec cap space? Good question, but it didn't only benefit Andre.

Maybe yourself, or someone with a firm understanding of cap management/finance could explain it to a blue collar guy like myself, what would be the benefit of dragging out the pay longer vs short term lump sum? Almost like the lottery? Do you get more up front in a cash payout vs interest over X amount of years?

If you need metal parts cut to a tolerance of .001 I'm your guy, finance not so much.



money in your hand now is better than a promise going forward for the player, accounting it for more years is better for the team

HOU-TEX
10-23-2013, 10:15 AM
He's had several opportunities to bail if he wanted to. He chose to stay, so he'll stay

Double Barrel
10-23-2013, 10:23 AM
I want to see AJ retire a Texan, never tainted by another team's uniform.

And I get the feeling he feels the same way, judging by his words and, more importantly, his actions.

There are many HoF caliber players who never get a ring or even a chance to play the big game. It's a damn shame, but it's a team sport.

Teams can be built virtually overnight with the right coaching staff, especially one with solid talent in many areas like the Texans right now.

But AJ needs a great QB to take him to the promised land. Schaub is not it, so hopefully this team can figure it out before he wears out.

kingtexan
10-23-2013, 10:28 AM
AJ will retire a Texan, get his number retired, and get his statue.

He unfortunately will never get a ring.

Dutchrudder
10-23-2013, 10:31 AM
AJ will retire a Texan, get his number retired, and get his statue.

He unfortunately will never get a ring.

Not as a player, but I could see him being signed on as a WR coach in the future. He seems like the kind of guy who would continue to keep working in the NFL in the future, and I'm sure the Texans organization would love to have him in some capacity.

ObsiWan
10-23-2013, 10:34 AM
Doesn't matter what he wants .... It makes no sense for the team to trade #80 , no return on the investment and a massive cap hit.

The idea of giving AJ an opportunity with a contender is nice and all .... Its just not realistic.


/lock thread.

Wait, what!?!
Did you just say that Andre Johnson hasn't given this team any return on it's investment in him? That's kinda what "no" means in this context. None. Not any. Zero.
Is that your message??

2012Champs
10-23-2013, 10:37 AM
Wait, what!?!
Did you just say that Andre Johnson hasn't given this team any return on it's investment in him? That's kinda what "no" means in this context. None. Not any. Zero.
Is that your message??



I think he is saying you wouldnt get anything in trade now or what you got wouldnt be any better for the team than AJ is now so net zero

ObsiWan
10-23-2013, 10:44 AM
I think he is saying you wouldnt get anything in trade now or what you got wouldnt be any better for the team than AJ is now so net zero
hmmm... okay there's some logic in that.

And for the record, I don't want to see A.J. in any other uni either. But if he asked Uncle Bob to leave - and he's the kind that would do it on the down low - Uncle Bob would task Rick Smith to make it happen.

No one would be very happy about it.

ChampionTexan
10-23-2013, 10:47 AM
When did the Texans become a charity? A 3rd rounder is absurd. I frankly don't care if AJ gets a SB ring unless it is with the Texans. And most importantly it would kill the Texans' cap with dead money.

This!

Vinny
10-23-2013, 11:36 AM
aj isn't going anywhere. He is our Ernie Banks.

b0ng
10-23-2013, 11:52 AM
even if it means he gets a ring?


Him getting traded from the Texans does not guarantee a ring. Look at Tony Gonzales.

Uncle Rico
10-23-2013, 12:03 PM
Wow, the comment " I don't care if he gets a ring unless its with the Texas" is uber selfish and I can't agree with it whatsoever.

I hope Dre gets his ring before retirement, with or without the Texans. He deserves it.

ArlingtonTexan
10-23-2013, 12:04 PM
Ave 2man im starting to think about it. i wish we keep him, but i think he deserves a chance with a contender.
would like to see him with brady.

possibly frees up money, maybe gets us a 3rd rder and AJ gets to make a deep playoff run the next 2 years.

i know its not gunna happen, but id like to see it. guy is a hf that deserves better than this.

No player dessrves the chane to get a ring. Dude has been well compensated. Tbe fact is that he rathered getting sure thing money than finder a better team.

2slik4u
10-23-2013, 12:05 PM
When did the Texans become a charity? A 3rd rounder is absurd. I frankly don't care if AJ gets a SB ring unless it is with the Texans. And most importantly it would kill the Texans' cap with dead money.

Agreed. I have a deep respect for AJ but it will do nothing for me personally if he leaves and gets a ring.

He needs to stay and retire a Texan.

Thorn
10-23-2013, 12:07 PM
Wow, the comment " I don't care if he gets a ring unless its with the Texas" is uber selfish and I can't agree with it whatsoever.

I hope Dre gets his ring before retirement, with or without the Texans. He deserves it.

If he gets a ring with another team, fine, but I won't give a crap about that. What I care about is the Texans. The Team. While I do admire individual players on The Team quite a bit, if they leave and go play for another team, they are now The Enemy.

Texans as a team first, loyalty to individual players second. Sorry, I can't go along with your "selfish" remark. It just seems silly to me.

Exascor
10-23-2013, 12:15 PM
If he gets a ring with another team, fine, but I won't give a crap about that. What I care about is the Texans. The Team. While I do admire individual players on The Team quite a bit, if they leave and go play for another team, they are now The Enemy.

Texans as a team first, loyalty to individual players second. Sorry, I can't go along with your "selfish" remark. It just seems silly to me.

100% agree. Good post Thorn. Sorry - MSR.

Double Barrel
10-23-2013, 12:59 PM
Wow, the comment " I don't care if he gets a ring unless its with the Texas" is uber selfish and I can't agree with it whatsoever.

I hope Dre gets his ring before retirement, with or without the Texans. He deserves it.

Fans - short for fanatic - are supposed to be selfish about their team. Undying loyalty and allegiance will cause that in a person.

So go ahead and root for the individual player. The rest of us will continue to root for the team.

thunderkyss
10-23-2013, 01:49 PM
The Ravens only got a 6th for Bouldin who's cap hit is close to what AJ's will be next year .... I think they are comparable players at this point in their careers..

That sounds like some dumb crap TK would say.


:kitten:

Uncle Rico
10-23-2013, 03:00 PM
Thanks for the education on how to be a good fan I really needed a laugh.

Look who we are talking about for Pete's sake, its not David Carr, its not domanick Davis, or Aaron Glenn or anybody else who has ever put on a Texan uniform, its Andre ****ing Johnson!! THE face of this franchise who has lived up to everything this franchise stands for.

Yall go ahead and take this high road, and team this and team that like I don't want the same things, yall run Dre through the meat grinder if yall want, i won't do that and I guess I'm in the minority, but I find it sickening. SOME players deserve more respect than that and #80 is one of those guys and I want nothing but the best for that man, he embodies everything that is right about a professional athlete.

"Just win baby" no matter how right? Damn shame.

chenjy9
10-23-2013, 03:18 PM
I don't understand this mentality. The only thing I care about is the Texans winning. We are not a charity. I think it is retarded to consider trading AJ to another team to chase a ring. If we do trade AJ, it should ONLY be to get better, not to help a player with a last hurrah. Eff that weak ****.

Blake
10-23-2013, 03:42 PM
I would love to see AJ Green get traded.

Double Barrel
10-23-2013, 04:04 PM
Thanks for the education on how to be a good fan I really needed a laugh.

Take a look in the mirror. YOU are the one blasting people about being "uber selfish".

Perhaps the mirror will also provide you with that desperately needed laugh, too.

Look who we are talking about for Pete's sake, its not David Carr, its not domanick Davis, or Aaron Glenn or anybody else who has ever put on a Texan uniform, its Andre ****ing Johnson!! THE face of this franchise who has lived up to everything this franchise stands for.


So let's send him somewhere else where he might get a chance for a ring?

You're all over the place. Get your logic in order before preaching to everyone else.

Yall go ahead and take this high road, and team this and team that like I don't want the same things, yall run Dre through the meat grinder if yall want, i won't do that and I guess I'm in the minority, but I find it sickening. SOME players deserve more respect than that and #80 is one of those guys and I want nothing but the best for that man, he embodies everything that is right about a professional athlete.


Perhaps you should turn down the douche factor if you want anyone to hear you.

I hated that Earl Campbell never got a ring. But I hated it even more than he ended his career as a Saint.

So for you to get on your high horse and act like you possess some moral superiority is the epitome of goofy.

"Just win baby" no matter how right? Damn shame.

Winning is why they play the game.

Are you a Houston Texans fan? Or are you an Andre Johnson fan? And which allegiance do you put first?

infantrycak
10-23-2013, 04:48 PM
Wow, the comment " I don't care if he gets a ring unless its with the Texas" is uber selfish and I can't agree with it whatsoever.

You don't get it. I will root for AJ to do well anywhere he goes if it happens EXCEPT where it negatively impacts the Texans. If he goes to New England and we are playing for the conference championship I sure am not rooting for him that day.

You are the one taking it too far. You are putting the player over the team. You are asking the team to get worse to the detriment of all the other players, coaches and the fans. Sorry, as I initially said, the Texans aren't a charity. Their job is to do the best they can and getting rid of AJ is counter to that effort.

Playoffs
10-23-2013, 06:37 PM
I want to see AJ retire a Texan, never tainted by another team's uniform...
aj isn't going anywhere. He is our Ernie Banks.

Agree. I want to see AJ retire a Texan and go into the HOF a Texan.

Just for grins, here's AJ's rankings amongst WRs by PFF (http://www.profootballfocus.com/) the last 5 years:

2008: 2nd/111
2009: 4th/107
2010: 3rd/111
2011: 30th/115 (only played ~1/3 of usual snaps)
2012: 1st/105

He's rated 3rd/107 in 2013 YTD.

http://dynastyfootballwarehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/andre-johnson.jpg

eriadoc
10-23-2013, 06:51 PM
4 pages? Seriously? C'mon man!

Hervoyel
10-23-2013, 06:53 PM
I would love to see AJ Green get traded.

Me too! We should offer them Ben Tate, all the remaining pieces of his ribs and the half-cup of "Potential" he stashed away in his locker along with Matt Schaub's bit of earlobe (where he stored most of his "Franchisiness" and whatever was left of Sam Montgomery's blunt.

Knowing the Bengals they'd probably take it.

Playoffs
10-23-2013, 07:23 PM
4 pages? Seriously? C'mon man!

User CP/Edit Options/...

Scroll down to Thread Display Options and select Show 50 Posts Per Page...

Then click on Save Changes at the bottom.

4 pages becomes 2. :fostering:

thetexanator
10-23-2013, 11:20 PM
man you guys are hardcore. this was just a would you theoretical scenario and in no way close to ever happening. but, i guess i got my answer, seems like 75 percent would rather he go down with the ship. guys given me too many good memories to not wish better for him.

Surreal McCoy
10-24-2013, 08:23 AM
and what exactly does this franchise stand for?

How to lose in excruciating fashion?


You obviously didn't live through any of the Oilers years.

eriadoc
10-24-2013, 10:42 AM
man you guys are hardcore. this was just a would you theoretical scenario and in no way close to ever happening. but, i guess i got my answer, seems like 75 percent would rather he go down with the ship. guys given me too many good memories to not wish better for him.

Since I root for the ship rather than the deck hands, yeah.

Norg
10-24-2013, 11:23 AM
meh its a gamble lets say hey do we hold on to older players to long or do we ya know keep him forever

I would only trade AJ if we can get a 1st and 2nd round pick but that wont happen

Trail.Blazr
10-24-2013, 11:41 AM
two more years. after that, if the texans are nowhere near superbowl contention then i would say yes.

Micheal Jordan played for another team. Hakeem did as well. So did patrick ewing. Jerry Rice. Joe Montana. the list goes on.

If those players who are much greater and won championships can play for another team, then so can dre.

Those wanting to keep dre no matter what are selfish fans. Dre deserves better than matt schaub and david carr.


I also know of HOF players who never got a championship mostly because of the team that didn't go on to another team and I'm not aware that they are suffering as a result... Dan Marino, Anthony Munoz, Jim Kelly, Bruce Matthews, Merlin Olsen, Dick Butkus and Barry Sanders.

The things I can see that puts these in a similar "class" with Dre are that they were supreme talent players, HOF'rs each of them I believe and I'm taking a little liberty here, as I'm not old enough to have witnessed a couple, but they seem to me to have been "UNSELFISH" players. That said, I personally think it's unlikely to see Dre insist on leaving for the sake of a championship. It doesn't resonate with his actions as a player and face of the franchise over the past decade, nor as a person from what little I've witnessed through media in his off the field actions.

I would not want to see him traded. I'd rather see him play out and the Texans get him there!

thunderkyss
10-24-2013, 11:45 AM
meh its a gamble lets say hey do we hold on to older players to long or do we ya know keep him forever

I would only trade AJ if we can get a 1st and 2nd round pick but that wont happen

Keep in mind we all agree that Schaub is not a quality QB.



YTD...... 8th in yards

2012 ... 4th in yards..... TD numbers in line with the other top recievers, catches over 20 yards in line with other top recievers, catches over 40 yards in line with other top recievers.

2011... played in only 7 games

2010 ... 6th in yards..... TD numbers in line with the other top recievers, catches over 20 yards in line with other top recievers, catches over 40 yards in line with other top recievers.



Other than the fact that he is 30, He's showing no signs of slowing down.

htownfan32
10-24-2013, 11:48 AM
I'd like to see us trade for Josh Gordon, but hell no, I don't want AJ getting traded.

I'd salivate over the AJ, DeAndre, Josh Gordon three headed hydra especially since Keenum can get the ball to all of them.

infantrycak
10-24-2013, 12:53 PM
Keep in mind we all agree that Schaub is not a quality QB.

2012 ... 4th in yards....

He was 2nd in yards.

2010 ... 6th in yards....

6th in yards with 3 games missed.

Look at it on yards per game.

2012 - 2nd (CJ)
2010 - 1st
2009 - 1st
2008 - 2nd (Steve Smith)
2007 - 1st

EllisUnit
10-24-2013, 01:11 PM
man im starting to think about it. i wish we keep him, but i think he deserves a chance with a contender.
would like to see him with brady.

possibly frees up money, maybe gets us a 3rd rder and AJ gets to make a deep playoff run the next 2 years.

i know its not gunna happen, but id like to see it. guy is a hf that deserves better than this.

He has chosen to stay here all these yrs, i doubt he wants to play anywhere else anyways.

thunderkyss
10-24-2013, 02:03 PM
Andre hasn't given up on the Texans..... & he's a lot closer to the situation than any of us.

eriadoc
10-24-2013, 02:12 PM
Andre hasn't given up on the Texans..... & he's a lot closer to the situation than any of us.

Run Schaub out there vs. the Colts and I bet he does.

thunderkyss
10-24-2013, 03:51 PM
Run Schaub out there vs. the Colts and I bet he does.

I wouldn't blame anyone for giving up if that happens. But we aren't there yet.

Lucky
10-26-2013, 09:03 AM
man im starting to think about it. i wish we keep him, but i think he deserves a chance with a contender.
would like to see him with brady.

possibly frees up money, maybe gets us a 3rd rder and AJ gets to make a deep playoff run the next 2 years.

i know its not gunna happen, but id like to see it. guy is a hf that deserves better than this.
First, the $$$. Here's the breakdown of the cap hits the Texans would take if they traded Andre by Tuesday, or sometime in the off season:

Cap hit if traded by 10/29 - $11.3 million - The Texans don't have that much cap room available, so that's a non-starter.

Cap hit if traded in 2014 offseason - $6.9 million - That costs almost $7million more to trade him than to keep him. Hardly freeing up money.

Does AJ deserve better? I know I deserve better as a HOF fan. But as William Munny says, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."
4 pages? Seriously? C'mon man!

Have 4 have 4 pages would ya go 5 would ya go 5 -

5!!!

thunderkyss
10-26-2013, 03:03 PM
I would be interested in seeing Andre with a Peyton Manning, or a Tom Brady, but then I believe he would be under-appreciated, the same way Moss & Welker were.

Other than that, I'd just as soon get a better QB in Houston.

burro
10-27-2013, 12:31 AM
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False Start
10-29-2013, 09:58 PM
Hell to the NO! :hankpalm:

DocBar
10-29-2013, 11:08 PM
No, I would not want to see AJ traded. I'm too hyped up to see how AJ does with a QB that will trust him in the red zone and can actually hit him in stride.

As wacky as Kubiak's been lately, maybe there will actually be some scoring plays called for AJ and he can quit being the decoy that everyone in developed countries have keyed on for the last 11 years.