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badboy
10-11-2013, 10:44 AM
Petersons 2 YOA son beaten almost to death by mom's boyfriend.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-adrian-petersons-child-severely-154057320--nfl.html

Vinny
10-11-2013, 10:46 AM
http://deadspin.com/adrian-petersons-son-hospitalized-mothers-boyfriend-1443881283?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2013/10/adrian_peterson_jr_2_reportedly_brutally_beaten_by _man_dating_mother_of_child.php

still tragic, but it's being reported (now) that it isn't his Son.

Mr teX
10-11-2013, 10:47 AM
Time for "all day" peterson to go whipping this guy's ass "all day"....

that, or get the hammers on deck.

HOU-TEX
10-11-2013, 11:01 AM
http://deadspin.com/adrian-petersons-son-hospitalized-mothers-boyfriend-1443881283?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2013/10/adrian_peterson_jr_2_reportedly_brutally_beaten_by _man_dating_mother_of_child.php

still tragic, but it's being reported (now) that it isn't his Son.

And also being reported it was AP's boy.

Reporting these days suck. Kinda like the Schaub incident...did it happen, did it not happen. Don't freakin report it without proof!

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 6m
Per source close to Adrian Peterson, the injured child is indeed his son. Some reports are now saying otherwise.

htowntexans1985
10-11-2013, 11:21 AM
He doesn't even have a son. Just a 8 or 9 year old daughter. It might have been his baby mama's son. Making him the step dad.

Playoffs
10-11-2013, 11:29 AM
Who beats a 2 year old "almost to death"???


Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Nelson Peterson, Adrian's father, told the Pioneer Press that the 2-year-old in critical condition in S.D. is one of Adrian Peterson's sons.

dc_txtech
10-11-2013, 11:32 AM
Who beats a 2 year old "almost to death"???

I'm not a doctor but I would assume it wouldn't take much for a full grown man to beat a 2 year old "almost to death". One punch to the face could probably do it.

The question should be "who would harm a child?"

HOU-TEX
10-11-2013, 11:45 AM
Sad

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 3m
Adrian Peterson's father confirms that assault victim is one of his grandsons http://wp.me/p14QSB-9iDU

Vinny
10-11-2013, 11:46 AM
And also being reported it was AP's boy.

Reporting these days suck. Kinda like the Schaub incident...did it happen, did it not happen. Don't freakin report it without proof!
Entertainment tonight style journalism. The media used to be reasonably professional...ugh...thanks for the update

HOU-TEX
10-11-2013, 11:47 AM
In case y'all don't trust (like me) the PFT dork

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 18m
Nelson Peterson, Adrian's father, told the Pioneer Press that the 2-year-old in critical condition in S.D. is one of Adrian Peterson's sons.

htowntexans1985
10-11-2013, 11:55 AM
In case y'all don't trust (like me) the PFT dork

I stand corrected. His Wikipedia page didn't mention anything about him having a son. Hopefully the little man pulls through.

Vinny
10-11-2013, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the update hou-tex

some bad news...

http://deadspin.com/adrian-petersons-son-hospitalized-mothers-boyfriend-1443881283?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Playoffs
10-11-2013, 12:26 PM
some bad news...

http://deadspin.com/adrian-petersons-son-hospitalized-mothers-boyfriend-1443881283?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflowJeez...

Reports: Adrian Peterson's 2-Year-Old Beaten, "Not Expected To Survive" (http://deadspin.com/adrian-petersons-son-hospitalized-mothers-boyfriend-1443881283)

kingtexan
10-11-2013, 12:42 PM
First of all, if you have kids, be a father and raise them.

Don't go around having fifty kids with forty different women and just keep walking away leaving the women to deal with your children. Too many professional athletes do just that, and it sickens me.

There is no amount of money or fame on this earth that could take the place of the pure unadulterated joy of simply being a father. Not only are these loser "no-show" dads missing out, but their kids are missing out. Maybe it is because of the culture they are raised in, since you hear about this being prevalent in certain sectors of society, but it is damn sad.

Second of all, if that is my kid ... "Patterson is scheduled to appear in court later this morning" wouldn't be necessary ...

2012Champs
10-11-2013, 01:24 PM
First of all, if you have kids, be a father and raise them.

Don't go around having fifty kids with forty different women and just keep walking away leaving the women to deal with your children. Too many professional athletes do just that, and it sickens me.

There is no amount of money or fame on this earth that could take the place of the pure unadulterated joy of simply being a father. Not only are these loser "no-show" dads missing out, but their kids are missing out. Maybe it is because of the culture they are raised in, since you hear about this being prevalent in certain sectors of society, but it is damn sad.

Second of all, if that is my kid ... "Patterson is scheduled to appear in court later this morning" wouldn't be necessary ...





First of all no one should beat a child to death no matter what his/her parental situation is

Stemp
10-11-2013, 01:31 PM
First of all no one should beat a child to death no matter what
Fify

badboy
10-11-2013, 01:53 PM
Let's all hold on and get a grip. We complain of news/media throwing out stuff without verifying and some of us are stating it is not his son, and why isn't AP raising the child, etc. We don't know if he is or not. Let's focus on what we do know, a child is hurt and the alleged assaulter is in custody. All that other can come. I for one am praying for the child's recovery.

kingtexan
10-11-2013, 01:57 PM
First of all no one should beat a child to death no matter what his/her parental situation is

That goes without saying.

chicagotexan2
10-11-2013, 02:30 PM
How sad. You have to be a total animal to beat a child like that. Poor boy.

htownfan32
10-11-2013, 03:01 PM
First of all, if you have kids, be a father and raise them.

Don't go around having fifty kids with forty different women and just keep walking away leaving the women to deal with your children. Too many professional athletes do just that, and it sickens me.

There is no amount of money or fame on this earth that could take the place of the pure unadulterated joy of simply being a father. Not only are these loser "no-show" dads missing out, but their kids are missing out. Maybe it is because of the culture they are raised in, since you hear about this being prevalent in certain sectors of society, but it is damn sad.

Second of all, if that is my kid ... "Patterson is scheduled to appear in court later this morning" wouldn't be necessary ...

Yeah, get on AP's back when he's dealing with a tragedy. Class act.

2012Champs
10-11-2013, 03:09 PM
That goes without saying.



it does? so does leaping to conclusion

kingtexan
10-11-2013, 03:22 PM
Yeah, get on AP's back when he's dealing with a tragedy. Class act.

Whatever.

Death is always a tragedy, and when it comes to children sometimes the tragedy for that child is the unfortunate fact that they were born to those parents ...

2012Champs
10-11-2013, 04:11 PM
Whatever.

Death is always a tragedy, and when it comes to children sometimes the tragedy for that child is the unfortunate fact that they were born to those parents ...




death isnt always a tragedy but being a total piece of sh!t must be

BorrowMe
10-11-2013, 04:51 PM
His son died...

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Playoffs
10-11-2013, 05:06 PM
Whatever. Death is always a tragedy, and when it comes to children sometimes the tragedy for that child is the unfortunate fact that they were born to those parents ...death isnt always a tragedy but being a total piece of sh!t must be

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QxzBPmmyQNY/UfRnCXVUyMI/AAAAAAAAOwg/zYR7cxrzOP4/s1600/BlindSpotAbsenceOfMalice8.jpg

"You two guys ought to get married." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absence_of_Malice)

kingtexan
10-11-2013, 06:35 PM
it does? so does leaping to conclusion

Not sure how anyone was leaping to any conclusion. But ok ...

kingtexan
10-11-2013, 06:36 PM
death isnt always a tragedy but being a total piece of sh!t must be

Yes, it must be. Care to enlighten us?

2012Champs
10-11-2013, 06:54 PM
Yes, it must be. Care to enlighten us?

I don't think you need my enlightenment

kingtexan
10-11-2013, 06:57 PM
I don't think you need my enlightenment

At least we agree on something, because you have never said anything remotely enlightening to me.

htowntexans1985
10-11-2013, 06:58 PM
http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram.com/00b00bc032cb11e39b2022000a9f1561_8.jpg


RIP Lil Man. This world is really becoming a disgusting place

TexansSeminole
10-11-2013, 07:08 PM
What a sad story. I can't imagine what Peterson is going through.

badboy
10-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Some info: http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/11/us/adrian-peterson-son-alleged-assault/


Authorities determined that the child had suffered injuries to his head consistent with abuse, according to Clemens. Police said Patterson, whom they described as the boyfriend of the injured child's mother, was the only other person in the residence at the time.
The suspect -- who was given suspended sentences a year ago for simple domestic assault and violation of a domestic abuse bond, both misdemeanors -- was arrested Thursday night, said Lincoln County, South Dakota, State's Attorney Tom Wollman. A judge set his bail at $750,000 cash during his initial court appearance Friday, according to Clemens.
The 2-year-old's mother is not under investigation, Clemens added.

steelbtexan
10-11-2013, 10:24 PM
His son died...

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Sad.......

How are the penal institutions in SD?

Hopefully this POS does hard time everyday of the rest of his existence on this earth. As far as I'm concerned every second this POS is using oxygen that another human being could be using is one second too many. Poor little boy didn't get a chance in life because of this POS, just makes me very angry.

badboy
10-11-2013, 10:37 PM
Sad.......

How are the penal institutions in SD?

Hopefully this POS does hard time everyday of the rest of his existence on this earth. As far as I'm concerned every second this POS is using oxygen that another human being could be using is one second too many. Poor little boy didn't get a chance in life because of this POS, just makes me very angry.
40 years, $80,000 fine although DA is considering more charges.

Vance87
10-11-2013, 11:03 PM
RIP Lil Man. This world is really becoming a disgusting place

News flash...the world has ALWAYS been a disgusting place...it won't change unless we void ourselves from this planet.

RIP AP's boy.

JPPT1974
10-11-2013, 11:14 PM
Really sad what happened. As it puts everything in perspective. RIP! :(

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 12:00 AM
Not to turn this around on AD, but there's no way I'm letting someone else raise my kid. With his money, he should have no problem making that happen.

Texn4life
10-12-2013, 12:55 AM
Not to turn this around on AD, but there's no way I'm letting someone else raise my kid. With his money, he should have no problem making that happen.

That's why people need to wait for all facts to come out. Apparently he just recently found out the son was his. Why make judgments without knowing all the facts?

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 01:47 AM
That's why people need to wait for all facts to come out. Apparently he just recently found out the son was his. Why make judgments without knowing all the facts?

"Not to turn this around on AD...."


Please try not to pass judgement.

kingtexan
10-12-2013, 06:35 AM
Not to turn this around on AD, but there's no way I'm letting someone else raise my kid. With his money, he should have no problem making that happen.

Exactly ...

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 08:38 AM
Not to turn this around on AD, but there's no way I'm letting someone else raise my kid. With his money, he should have no problem making that happen.


Don't be so ignorant. Money doesn't buy custody

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 08:40 AM
"Not to turn this around on AD...."


Please try not to pass judgement.



That's like saying "I don't mean to be mean but you are fat" "she's so ugly bless her heart" etc

Maybe you shouldn't pass judgement

Texn4life
10-12-2013, 08:51 AM
"Not to turn this around on AD...."


Please try not to pass judgement.

Dude, the rest of your comment wreaked of judgment. Just because you prefaced it with that doesn't mean a thing.

CloakNNNdagger
10-12-2013, 09:52 AM
I don't know what to say anymore.


Man accused of beating child previously charged with assaulting 3-year-old (http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131011/UPDATES/131011003/Man-accused-harming-toddler-has-violent-past-bond-set-750-000?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1)

NCTexan
10-12-2013, 09:55 AM
Don't be so ignorant. Money doesn't buy custody

This. If the kid is with the mom and she brings that POS around...

kingtexan
10-12-2013, 10:02 AM
This. If the kid is with the mom and she brings that POS around...

The point is how many women are there out there with "drive-by" kids from professional athletes? They just screw whoever, they want and don't worry about kids because they have the money to pay support. They never give a second thought to the child and just dump all the responsibility on the mother. That isn't being a father. If you want to have unprotected sex be prepared to act like a father. If you are acting like a father, then some loser doesn't beat your kid to death. Fairly simple to figure out ...

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 10:10 AM
The point is how many women are there out there with "drive-by" kids from professional athletes? They just screw whoever, they want and don't worry about kids because they have the money to pay support. They never give a second thought to the child and just dump all the responsibility on the mother. That isn't being a father. If you want to have unprotected sex be prepared to act like a father. If you are acting like a father, then some loser doesn't beat your kid to death. Fairly simple to figure out ...


Really so you can't act like a father and still have a loser beat your kid to death? You are beyond ignorant.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 11:22 AM
Dude, the rest of your comment wreaked of judgment. Just because you prefaced it with that doesn't mean a thing.

I'm not passing judgement on AD... or any of you dead beat dads (the way you're responding, I have to assume).

"Not to turn this around on AD..." means exactly that. I'm not judging AD. It means this next part of my statement is not to pass judgement on AD.

I can't buy custody, but I can have a lawyer work on my behalf & threaten so much litigation that she couldn't keep up. Or build a case so much in my favor that I would win outright.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 11:25 AM
Really so you can't act like a father and still have a loser beat your kid to death? You are beyond ignorant.

CnD posted a link showing this guy is a repeat offender. A crackpot, best that money can buy, legal team would have gotten AD (All Day) custody without breaking a sweat.

Playoffs
10-12-2013, 11:26 AM
I don't know what to say anymore.

Man accused of beating child previously charged with assaulting 3-year-old (http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131011/UPDATES/131011003/Man-accused-harming-toddler-has-violent-past-bond-set-750-000?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1)

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Joseph-Robert-Patterson.jpg

The Argus Leader reports (http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131011/UPDATES/131011003/Man-accused-harming-toddler-has-violent-past-bond-set-750-000?gcheck=1) that Joseph Robert Patterson had previously been given a suspended sentence on two domestic abuse cases, one involving an assault on a woman he was previously involved with, and another involving an assault on that woman’s child.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 11:28 AM
The point is how many women are there out there with "drive-by" kids from professional athletes? .

That is most definitely not my point. All I said was that I wouldn't let anyone else raise my kids, especially if I had the financial resources that Peterson has.

Now, I recently found out that AD recently found out that it was his kid. For all I know (& a good reason I did not pass judgement) he was in the process of gaining custody of his kid.

kingtexan
10-12-2013, 11:37 AM
Really so you can't act like a father and still have a loser beat your kid to death? You are beyond ignorant.

The loser wouldn't be around the kid ... because the father would be there.

Obviously you don't have children.

Maybe you and Illini need to have some so you can learn what the hell you are taking about.

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 11:44 AM
The loser wouldn't be around the kid ... because the father would be there.

Obviously you don't have children.

Maybe you and Illini need to have some so you can learn what the hell you are taking about.


Really so tell me how if you are married had kids and then got a divorce how you would prevent your ex from seeing someone else. Just because you lack intelligence doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 11:47 AM
CnD posted a link showing this guy is a repeat offender. A crackpot, best that money can buy, legal team would have gotten AD (All Day) custody without breaking a sweat.


Oh that's why father's get custody all the time when the mom is a total sh!t bag, oh wait that's not true. You sure seem to think money can buy things but your assumptions are not automatic

kingtexan
10-12-2013, 11:48 AM
Really so tell me how if you are married had kids and then got a divorce how you would prevent your ex from seeing someone else. Just because you lack intelligence doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about

Back to my original point about these athletes sleeping around then walking away. I'm not having unprotected sex if I am not married to the woman, and I am not marrying anyone I would just divorce like that. The kid was two ... don't get married if you are going to be divorced by the time the kid is two. You are typical of how society thinks in 2013. Apparently to you people relationships ... and children ... are just disposable.

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 11:53 AM
Back to my original point about these athletes sleeping around then walking away. I'm not having unprotected sex if I am not married to the woman, and I am not marrying anyone I would just divorce like that. The kid was two ... don't get married if you are going to be divorced by the time the kid is two. You are typical of how society thinks in 2013. Apparently to you people relationships ... and children ... are just disposable.



I'm glad you saw your ignorance by the clear avoidance of providing me an explanation of the scenario I provided. You can't avoid divorce should your wife decide, your marriage now doesn't prevent your wife from seeing other people in the future and there is zero chance you can forever prevent another person from being around your kids.

I'm glad you can now see how silly your concept really is

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 11:54 AM
Oh that's why father's get custody all the time when the mom is a total sh!t bag, oh wait that's not true. You sure seem to think money can buy things but your assumptions are not automatic

I think this is way too personal for you. I'm sorry I stated my opinion.

Texn4life
10-12-2013, 11:55 AM
I'm not passing judgement on AD... or any of you dead beat dads (the way you're responding, I have to assume).

"Not to turn this around on AD..." means exactly that. I'm not judging AD. It means this next part of my statement is not to pass judgement on AD.

I can't buy custody, but I can have a lawyer work on my behalf & threaten so much litigation that she couldn't keep up. Or build a case so much in my favor that I would win outright.

You only make an ass of yourself when you assume. So I guess the shoe fits.

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 11:56 AM
I think this is way too personal for you. I'm sorry I stated my opinion.


It's not personal. You make wild unrealistic assumption and spread ignorance.

rmartin65
10-12-2013, 11:58 AM
It's not personal. You make wild unrealistic assumption and spread ignorance.

What has happened to you the last couple of weeks? I have been agreeing with you almost non-stop, it is creeping me out.

Anyway, blaming this on AP is ridiculous. This is on the ****-bag that beat the kid.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 12:02 PM
It's not personal. You make wild unrealistic assumption and spread ignorance.

You're pushing it. There is nothing unrealistic about saying I wouldn't let someone else raise my kid, especially if I had AD's money.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 12:04 PM
What has happened to you the last couple of weeks? I have been agreeing with you almost non-stop, it is creeping me out.

Anyway, blaming this on AP is ridiculous. This is on the ****-bag that beat the kid.

Back up. No one is blaming anything on AD... that's just people with reading comprehension isues.

rmartin65
10-12-2013, 12:08 PM
First of all, if you have kids, be a father and raise them.

Don't go around having fifty kids with forty different women and just keep walking away leaving the women to deal with your children. Too many professional athletes do just that, and it sickens me.

There is no amount of money or fame on this earth that could take the place of the pure unadulterated joy of simply being a father. Not only are these loser "no-show" dads missing out, but their kids are missing out. Maybe it is because of the culture they are raised in, since you hear about this being prevalent in certain sectors of society, but it is damn sad.

Second of all, if that is my kid ... "Patterson is scheduled to appear in court later this morning" wouldn't be necessary ...

Not to turn this around on AD, but there's no way I'm letting someone else raise my kid. With his money, he should have no problem making that happen.

The point is how many women are there out there with "drive-by" kids from professional athletes? They just screw whoever, they want and don't worry about kids because they have the money to pay support. They never give a second thought to the child and just dump all the responsibility on the mother. That isn't being a father. If you want to have unprotected sex be prepared to act like a father. If you are acting like a father, then some loser doesn't beat your kid to death. Fairly simple to figure out ...

That is most definitely not my point. All I said was that I wouldn't let anyone else raise my kids, especially if I had the financial resources that Peterson has.

Now, I recently found out that AD recently found out that it was his kid. For all I know (& a good reason I did not pass judgement) he was in the process of gaining custody of his kid.

The loser wouldn't be around the kid ... because the father would be there.

Obviously you don't have children.

Maybe you and Illini need to have some so you can learn what the hell you are taking about.

Back up. No one is blaming anything on AD... that's just people with reading comprehension isues.

Saying that this does not happen if the father (AP) was present is blaming him. It is not a difficult concept to grasp.

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 12:11 PM
You're pushing it. There is nothing unrealistic about saying I wouldn't let someone else raise my kid, especially if I had AD's money.

Yes it is unrealistic to think if you had money that would prevent someone else from raising your kid. Money doesn't equal sole custody

infantrycak
10-12-2013, 12:26 PM
Are there people in this thread claiming they run criminal background checks on people they date?

Yes it is unrealistic to think if you had money that would prevent someone else from raising your kid. Money doesn't equal sole custody

Correct. TK is also failing to recognize that being gone 6+ months of the year is a huge detriment to a single dad getting primary custody.

Also even if he got primary custody, she is going to get a month in the summer and other visitation and guess who will be there - folks you have no control over.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 12:26 PM
Saying that this does not happen if the father (AP) was present is blaming him. It is not a difficult concept to grasp.

Don't lump me I. With that guy. I did my best to distance myself from his statements.

rmartin65
10-12-2013, 12:28 PM
Don't lump me I. With that guy. I did my best to distance myself from his statements.

I have some of your posts quoted there too. While you may have been more tactful in how you said it, you still said it.

Own your statements, or don't make them at all.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 12:35 PM
I have some of your posts quoted there too. While you may have been more tactful in how you said it, you still said it.

Own your statements, or don't make them at all.

I don't trust anyone else to raise my kid. I think most of us feel that way.

I definitely feel this wouldn't have happened if the kid was with me, or in this case AD. Would you disagree with that? Nothing I said blames Peterson for not having custody. kingwhatever is definitely assessing blame on Peterson. Big difference between what he said & what I said.

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 12:46 PM
I don't trust anyone else to raise my kid. I think most of us feel that way.

I definitely feel this wouldn't have happened if the kid was with me, or in this case AD. Would you disagree with that? Nothing I said blames Peterson for not having custody. kingwhatever is definitely assessing blame on Peterson. Big difference between what he said & what I said.


You nor ad could prevent this kid from being around a boyfriend

rmartin65
10-12-2013, 12:47 PM
I don't trust anyone else to raise my kid. I think most of us feel that way.

I definitely feel this wouldn't have happened if the kid was with me, or in this case AD. Would you disagree with that? Nothing I said blames Peterson for not having custody. kingwhatever is definitely assessing blame on Peterson. Big difference between what he said & what I said.

I would think that most parents would want to be with their kid. Maybe AP did not, maybe he did. We dont know, and to assume that he did not is blaming Peterson for this tragedy.

Now, if it comes out that Peterson knew about the kid and did not care about having custody... then sure, he deserves a share of the blame.

infantrycak
10-12-2013, 12:50 PM
Now, if it comes out that Peterson knew about the kid and did not care about having custody... then sure, he deserves a share of the blame.

Consider the logistics of this. What does AP having custody mean during the season? It basically means the kid is in the custody of someone he hires to take care of him.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 01:02 PM
I would think that most parents would want to be with their kid. Maybe AP did not, maybe he did. We dont know, and to assume that he did not is blaming Peterson for this tragedy.

Now, if it comes out that Peterson knew about the kid and did not care about having custody... then sure, he deserves a share of the blame.

I have no idea what kind of involvement AD wanted to have with this kid. I made no speculation of such. I said what my preferences would be & that having his resources would help me make it happen.

rmartin65
10-12-2013, 01:09 PM
Consider the logistics of this. What does AP having custody mean during the season? It basically means the kid is in the custody of someone he hires to take care of him.

That is a good point, and one I did not consider.

badboy
10-12-2013, 02:05 PM
Not to turn this around on AD, but there's no way I'm letting someone else raise my kid. With his money, he should have no problem making that happen.
It's evident you have no experience with Texas family court. $ does not give you custody.

Dan B.
10-12-2013, 02:32 PM
Consider the logistics of this. What does AP having custody mean during the season? It basically means the kid is in the custody of someone he hires to take care of him.

Well, to be fair it's unlikely he'd hire someone convicted of beating a child to take care of his kid. They may not run background checks on ex spouse's future dates, but it's pretty common for employment.

Honestly, I can see a lot of TK, rmartin, $ 2012's point here. I'm not saying AD deserves to be held criminally liable or anything close. But if this happened to me I would definitely be having a few sleepless nights. If I fathered a child I didn't know about for two years and my son died when I wasn't there to protect him I would feel guilty about it. I made the decision to sleep with this woman, and there are responsibilities that come with that.

It's the reason I don't have kids. I don't know that I could be the right kind of father to them.

powda
10-12-2013, 03:33 PM
You guys can take some fantasy moral high ground on this if you want but it means your not familiar with the circumstances or reality. Let me clue you into how it really works. Judges dont like taking custody away from mothers. Especially, mothers who were the sole parent for a couple of years. Judges dont take children away from siblings either. Unless the mom is a criminal or is entirely apathetic, dads are usually up **** creek. Are there exceptions? Sure. But the rule of thumb is easy: nuts = second class parent in the eyes of most courts. Celebrity status and money just meant ap was paying for her top dollar lawyers to. Being a separated father is the last widely accepted discrimination out there. I've dealt with it first hand, and mom's are free to expose your children to whomever they please.

kingtexan
10-12-2013, 04:58 PM
Who ever said anything about AP needing to have custody of the kid?

Custody? Seriously?

You know when you get custody for sure? By only sleeping with your wife and not knocking up half of America.

Which was my main point.

I don't blame AP for what happened to that kid.

But if the athletes we put up on pedestals were real men, they wouldn't go around sleeping with a different woman every night and not caring if kids were a result of that action. They don't care because there are no repercussions for them at all. The woman has to take care of the child and they still get to be the superstar. Or maybe the woman isn't the kind of woman that even needs to have a child ... cant take care of a child ... would leave her child with someone with a history of child abuse.

Does that athlete think of that? Does he care? Does he for one second in his life think what might happen to a kid because of the actions he is about to take? Nope.

The only person in this entire story I feel bad for is the child.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 06:13 PM
Poor kid didn't make it (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000260563/article/adrian-petersons-son-dies-alleged-attacker-in-jail).

I'd kill that S.o.B. given the opportunity.

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 07:07 PM
Who ever said anything about AP needing to have custody of the kid?

Custody? Seriously?

You know when you get custody for sure? By only sleeping with your wife and not knocking up half of America.

Which was my main point.

I don't blame AP for what happened to that kid.

But if the athletes we put up on pedestals were real men, they wouldn't go around sleeping with a different woman every night and not caring if kids were a result of that action. They don't care because there are no repercussions for them at all. The woman has to take care of the child and they still get to be the superstar. Or maybe the woman isn't the kind of woman that even needs to have a child ... cant take care of a child ... would leave her child with someone with a history of child abuse.

Does that athlete think of that? Does he care? Does he for one second in his life think what might happen to a kid because of the actions he is about to take? Nope.

The only person in this entire story I feel bad for is the child.



And again you fail to grasp this very thing could happen to your child and you would have zero control over it despite only sleeping with your wife. Sometimes when you sit that high on a horse the fall can be devastating

kingtexan
10-12-2013, 08:12 PM
And again you fail to grasp this very thing could happen to your child and you would have zero control over it despite only sleeping with your wife. Sometimes when you sit that high on a horse the fall can be devastating

Seriously pray you never have children.

EllisUnit
10-12-2013, 08:18 PM
I'm not a doctor but I would assume it wouldn't take much for a full grown man to beat a 2 year old "almost to death". One punch to the face could probably do it.

The question should be "who would harm a child?"

I have a 6, 4 and 1 and a half year old. And i could never imagine how someone could do such a thing, i even feel bad when i see othe rpeoples kids hurt, on that note if i were to get a hold of someone who nearly beat a child to death. He/she would be wishing for their death in the worst kind of way.

2012Champs
10-12-2013, 09:17 PM
Seriously pray you never have children.


That would have nothing to do with your loss of control of parenting your child or children 100% of the time, especially if your wife left you

powda
10-12-2013, 09:47 PM
That would have nothing to do with your loss of control of parenting your child or children 100% of the time, especially if your wife left you

Dont waste your time with him. 40 hours a week his kids will be at school. For an hour everyday they'll be on a bus. For an hour on sundays theyll be in sunday school.And He'll never use a babysitter. Dude needs to tap into reality. Thanks for typecasting all athletes as bad dads while your at it...

StarStruck
10-12-2013, 10:16 PM
Who ever said anything about AP needing to have custody of the kid?

Custody? Seriously?

You know when you get custody for sure? By only sleeping with your wife and not knocking up half of America.

Which was my main point.

I don't blame AP for what happened to that kid.

But if the athletes we put up on pedestals were real men, they wouldn't go around sleeping with a different woman every night and not caring if kids were a result of that action. They don't care because there are no repercussions for them at all. The woman has to take care of the child and they still get to be the superstar. Or maybe the woman isn't the kind of woman that even needs to have a child ... cant take care of a child ... would leave her child with someone with a history of child abuse.

Does that athlete think of that? Does he care? Does he for one second in his life think what might happen to a kid because of the actions he is about to take? Nope.

The only person in this entire story I feel bad for is the child.

I believe that I have a grasp of your opinion about men who have children by different women. I'm curious about what your opinion is about parents who divorce that have children.

Even though I don't agree with parents having children without making a commitment to each other to be parents to their children until they are adults. On one hand, children from these relationships will probably not be as bonded with both parents as children of two parent families.

That lead me to the question of your opinion of the parent that leaves the relationship for whatever the reason. It seems the child/children who have been in a family structure long enough to identify/bond equally with the parents could possibly have a more difficult time in adjusting to a new environment. Do you hold a divorced parent in the same light when it comes to being there with their children? If so, why, if not, why not?

Dan B.
10-13-2013, 01:20 AM
Where on earth has it been reported that the woman was his ex wife? There was no divorce. No custody battle. He didn't know about the child until recently -- reportedly hadn't met him until he was on life support (http://nypost.com/2013/10/12/adrian-peterson-saw-son-for-first-time-while-he-was-on-life-support/) -- and even the mother could only narrow it to one of two guys before the paternity test.
(http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2013/10/adrian_petersons_sioux_falls_child_was_a_secret_so urce_says.php)
Peterson has been dating the same woman since he was at Oklahoma. They have a son together that is also two years old. So unless there was some mishap at a sperm donation clinic he slept with multiple women at the same time. While not a crime, this can have consequences. He behaved irresponsibly, and it led to the worst possible result.

2012Champs
10-13-2013, 07:41 AM
Where on earth has it been reported that the woman was his ex wife? There was no divorce. No custody battle. He didn't know about the child until recently -- reportedly hadn't met him until he was on life support (http://nypost.com/2013/10/12/adrian-peterson-saw-son-for-first-time-while-he-was-on-life-support/) -- and even the mother could only narrow it to one of two guys before the paternity test.
(http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2013/10/adrian_petersons_sioux_falls_child_was_a_secret_so urce_says.php)
Peterson has been dating the same woman since he was at Oklahoma. They have a son together that is also two years old. So unless there was some mishap at a sperm donation clinic he slept with multiple women at the same time. While not a crime, this can have consequences. He behaved irresponsibly, and it led to the worst possible result.


No one said this was peterson's ex wife. It's simply a point that was made for the moral high horse patrol that would never allow this to happen to their children

kingtexan
10-13-2013, 09:44 AM
I believe that I have a grasp of your opinion about men who have children by different women. I'm curious about what your opinion is about parents who divorce that have children.

Even though I don't agree with parents having children without making a commitment to each other to be parents to their children until they are adults. On one hand, children from these relationships will probably not be as bonded with both parents as children of two parent families.

That lead me to the question of your opinion of the parent that leaves the relationship for whatever the reason. It seems the child/children who have been in a family structure long enough to identify/bond equally with the parents could possibly have a more difficult time in adjusting to a new environment. Do you hold a divorced parent in the same light when it comes to being there with their children? If so, why, if not, why not?

I was married at 17 years old because my girlfriend got pregnant. We stayed married for 22 years, not because we were hopelessly in love and the world was all wine and roses, but because we made a commitment and stuck to it. We divorced the year after our third and last child graduated high school. Being married so young, for the wrong reason was very difficult, but you have to be willing to put forth the effort. To make the sacrifices and insure that the children are the focal point.

That what is wrong with marriage it seems nowadays. People have kids, then still just focus on themselves and go about trying to live their dream. What about the kids? Who is protecting and training the kids?

That was an easy answer in my marriage, the parents were. They were protected, they were loved, and they were trained and educated well, and all three have become fine young adults.

kingtexan
10-13-2013, 09:52 AM
he slept with multiple women at the same time. While not a crime, this can have consequences. He behaved irresponsibly, and it led to the worst possible result.

Yep ...

2012Champs
10-13-2013, 10:11 AM
I was married at 17 years old because my girlfriend got pregnant. We stayed married for 22 years, not because we were hopelessly in love and the world was all wine and roses, but because we made a commitment and stuck to it. We divorced the year after our third and last child graduated high school. Being married so young, for the wrong reason was very difficult, but you have to be willing to put forth the effort. To make the sacrifices and insure that the children are the focal point.

That what is wrong with marriage it seems nowadays. People have kids, then still just focus on themselves and go about trying to live their dream. What about the kids? Who is protecting and training the kids?

That was an easy answer in my marriage, the parents were. They were protected, they were loved, and they were trained and educated well, and all three have become fine young adults.



What's also wrong with marriage is people jump into it just because a pregnancy pops up. Then two people not intending to be married or parents have two more kids and divorce as soon as the last gets out of school . I'm sure you view how you handled your situation and others could say having more kids was irresponsible

kingtexan
10-13-2013, 10:39 AM
and others could say having more kids was irresponsible

"Others" don't know if that was the plan all along, or if we intended to stay together forever and it just didn't work out. Most likely "others" are little kids who like to troll message boards and will never have a date, much less any children. Most likely ...

2012Champs
10-13-2013, 10:45 AM
"Others" don't know if that was the plan all along, or if we intended to stay together forever and it just didn't work out. Most likely "others" are little kids who like to troll message boards and will never have a date, much less any children. Most likely ...

Well by your own words your gf got prego(maybe you should have done a better job with birth control ) and you got married not because you wanted to but had to. Magically when all the kids were gone(the only reason you were married in the first place) the marriage was over. I'm sure parents not truly being in love was swell over the childhood years

amazing80
10-13-2013, 11:11 AM
Most people in this thread are idiots, immature and have no concept of reality. I pray you never have children because the sad reality is you're not ready for it. Life is rough and idiots in this world make it tougher. My thoughts are with Peterson, no one deserves to lose a child especially from the hands of another man. I hope this guy gets murdered in prison.

kingtexan
10-13-2013, 11:44 AM
Well by your own words your gf got prego(maybe you should have done a better job with birth control ) and you got married not because you wanted to but had to. Magically when all the kids were gone(the only reason you were married in the first place) the marriage was over. I'm sure parents not truly being in love was swell over the childhood years

Ok kid.

infantrycak
10-13-2013, 03:21 PM
"Others" don't know if that was the plan all along, or if we intended to stay together forever and it just didn't work out. Most likely "others" are little kids who like to troll message boards and will never have a date, much less any children. Most likely ...

You are clueless if you believe others, particularly the kids, do not know.

And before you go off on one of your holier than thou presumptions of no experience accusations, I have three kids and was the product of a sham marriage that stayed together until graduation time. I always knew what was coming.

2012Champs
10-14-2013, 10:22 AM
Ok kid.



If you were "Mr. Responsibility" how were you so irrresponsible that you allowed your girlfriend whom you didnt love to get pregnant?

kingtexan
10-14-2013, 11:20 AM
You are clueless if you believe others, particularly the kids, do not know.

And before you go off on one of your holier than thou presumptions of no experience accusations, I have three kids and was the product of a sham marriage that stayed together until graduation time. I always knew what was coming.

And?

Fact remains you must be alive, because you posted this, and this whole thread started by talking about a horrible tragedy that happened to a two year old, and my bashing started when I had the audacity to have the opinion that the child would have been safer, and therefore most likely still be alive, if he would have had a father there to protect him.

As soon as my children were old enough my ex and I told them the entire story. Hell my oldest son even knows he was conceived in a car .... and owns that damn car! Lol.

Not sure what either you or 2012's point is, but have your fun.

htownfan32
10-15-2013, 01:01 PM
And?

Fact remains you must be alive, because you posted this, and this whole thread started by talking about a horrible tragedy that happened to a two year old, and my bashing started when I had the audacity to have the opinion that the child would have been safer, and therefore most likely still be alive, if he would have had a father there to protect him.

As soon as my children were old enough my ex and I told them the entire story. Hell my oldest son even knows he was conceived in a car .... and owns that damn car! Lol.

Not sure what either you or 2012's point is, but have your fun.

Having an opinion is one thing, riding a moral high horse is another.

2012Champs
10-15-2013, 04:08 PM
And?

Fact remains you must be alive, because you posted this, and this whole thread started by talking about a horrible tragedy that happened to a two year old, and my bashing started when I had the audacity to have the opinion that the child would have been safer, and therefore most likely still be alive, if he would have had a father there to protect him.

As soon as my children were old enough my ex and I told them the entire story. Hell my oldest son even knows he was conceived in a car .... and owns that damn car! Lol.

Not sure what either you or 2012's point is, but have your fun.


Your kids knew well before you told them.


The point? Im not sure you should be throwing around judgment when your own has been questionable at times

Texecutioner
10-15-2013, 10:51 PM
I was married at 17 years old because my girlfriend got pregnant. We stayed married for 22 years, not because we were hopelessly in love and the world was all wine and roses, but because we made a commitment and stuck to it. We divorced the year after our third and last child graduated high school. Being married so young, for the wrong reason was very difficult, but you have to be willing to put forth the effort. To make the sacrifices and insure that the children are the focal point.

That what is wrong with marriage it seems nowadays. People have kids, then still just focus on themselves and go about trying to live their dream. What about the kids? Who is protecting and training the kids?

That was an easy answer in my marriage, the parents were. They were protected, they were loved, and they were trained and educated well, and all three have become fine young adults.

Your message is a good one for the most part, but I don't agree that a parent can't still go after their dreams after they have children. I think you take care of the health and well being of the child along with the rest of your family, but that doesn't mean that you can't chase your own dreams still.

Chance_C
10-16-2013, 01:24 PM
I was married at 17 years old because my girlfriend got pregnant. We stayed married for 22 years, not because we were hopelessly in love and the world was all wine and roses, but because we made a commitment and stuck to it. We divorced the year after our third and last child graduated high school. Being married so young, for the wrong reason was very difficult, but you have to be willing to put forth the effort. To make the sacrifices and insure that the children are the focal point.

That what is wrong with marriage it seems nowadays. People have kids, then still just focus on themselves and go about trying to live their dream. What about the kids? Who is protecting and training the kids?

That was an easy answer in my marriage, the parents were. They were protected, they were loved, and they were trained and educated well, and all three have become fine young adults.

What about if the mother and father sleep in seperate rooms? Absolutely no love between the two? What do you think that does to the kids? Is it better to raise your kids in an unhappy marriage, or better to raise your kids individually and to the best of your ability, which would in turn make the parents happy? You know....if both are being honest that is.

kingtexan
10-16-2013, 01:29 PM
What about if the mother and father sleep in seperate rooms? Absolutely no love between the two? What do you think that does to the kids? Is it better to raise your kids in an unhappy marriage, or better to raise your kids individually and to the best of your ability, which would in turn make the parents happy? You know....if both are being honest that is.

Not sure kids, especially very young children know enough about or care about where the parents sleep.

If the relationship is full of fighting and constant tension it wouldn't be a good environment for children.

2012Champs
10-16-2013, 02:20 PM
Not sure kids, especially very young children know enough about or care about where the parents sleep.

If the relationship is full of fighting and constant tension it wouldn't be a good environment for children





It wouldnt actually matter if the parents slept in the same room or got in fights they figure it out over time. On the off chance they dont Im sure it would go over well when you find out in your 20s your parent's relationship was a sham your entire life