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gafftop
10-06-2013, 04:29 PM
They have Luck and we have Schaub. I thought we could hold them off one more year maybe but the difference between our QB and their QB is just too great.

I know it is more than one person but at QB it can make a difference.
Luck wins the game and Schaub loses the game.

I am sick of the Colts.

Texans and MS make me eat crow. Go Texans.

kingtexan
10-06-2013, 04:30 PM
Luck is a QB and Schaub is Winnie-the-Pooh's donkey friend ... so ...

Tailgate
10-06-2013, 04:35 PM
This is what happens when you win like 1 game and get the #1 pick. As a result there is a once in a lifetime QB available for to you to draft. Then like 10-15 yrs later that same QB has a freak neck injury and they win like 2 games get the #1, only to have one of the best QB prospects in a long time coming out that same year.

The timing of it all is such perfect Luck.

markn
10-06-2013, 04:35 PM
Our team is loaded with quality at so many positions. They have a QB we don't. I'd swap with them in a heartbeat because you can build around a franchise QB, whereas as we've demonstrated, it doesn't matter how may stars you have in other positions, if your QB is limited, so is your team. Indy have the division dominated until we find a proper QB.

Rey
10-06-2013, 04:42 PM
I think the colts are going to win the division this year and we are going to be in a dog fight to make the play offs.

I think we probably miss them but I'd like to at least see us get in and give ourselves a chance. But yeah...the texans had a nice little period where we owned the division kind of. But as long as the colts keep luck healthy and we just keep ho-humming along, we're going to struggle to win the division.

But I like good battles. I was not afraid of them drafting luck. I figured it'd make us step our game up. Hasn't happened yet, but we'll see.

Naiirb
10-06-2013, 04:59 PM
This is what happens when you win like 1 game and get the #1 pick. As a result there is a once in a lifetime QB available for to you to draft. Then like 10-15 yrs later that same QB has a freak neck injury and they win like 2 games get the #1, only to have one of the best QB prospects in a long time coming out that same year.

The timing of it all is such perfect Luck.

I know it's seriously annoying how lucky the Colts are. Other franchises can go years sometimes decades without a great QB and the Colts go from Manning to luck within ONE season and are set for another 10 years. Ugh

htowntexans1985
10-06-2013, 05:09 PM
If only schaub wouldnt lose us games, we would be fine. But those pick 6's are daggers to the team. Luck wins the colts games. We just hope Schaub doesn't screw up and lose us the game. Overall we have a better team, but the disparity between the 2 quarterbacks might be too much to overcome.

Bulls on Parade
10-06-2013, 05:13 PM
We definitely have to beat the 49ers tonight just to keep pace with the Colts and remain one game back in the AFC South. I don't care if we win the division or a wild-card spot, I'm going to be happy as long as we make the playoffs because there are too many good teams in the AFC.

More importantly, we play the Colts two times late in the season so there is no need to panic just yet. They do look really good and Andrew Luck is on the verge of becoming an elite quarterback in the game if you don't consider him one already.

We have to focus on our own team before we worry about other teams though. So nothing else really matters except what the Texans are doing on the field. Let's just run the table, finish 14-2 and take it all. We control our own destiny. Remember that.

thunderkyss
10-06-2013, 05:15 PM
I know it's seriously annoying how lucky the Colts are. Other franchises can go years sometimes decades without a great QB and the Colts go from Manning to luck within ONE season and are set for another 10 years. Ugh

I'm still not sold on Luck being a "great" QB, or the Colts being "lucky"

So far so good, but 11 games to go is a long way. Remember it wasn't that long ago that Stafford & Bradford were "on the right track" or "better than Schaub" Or Cam Newton..... anybody talking about him lately? Or Jay Cutler...

I remember when the Colts had Peyton, we didn't have a shot. Winning 8 games a year, it didn't matter how good the Colts were, because we weren't good enough for a legitimate shot at the title anyway.

It's not going to be easy but I think we'll be in the division talks late into the season & we'll probably win it.

Anyone going to crown Schaub as the best QB in the division if we win it again?











I didn't think so.

HJam72
10-06-2013, 05:18 PM
Sure, you can call it luck.

I call it cheating. Anybody can lose. It's REALLY easy to do.

Rey
10-06-2013, 05:27 PM
I'm still not sold on Luck being a "great" QB, or the Colts being "lucky"

So far so good, but 11 games to go is a long way. Remember it wasn't that long ago that Stafford & Bradford were "on the right track" or "better than Schaub" Or Cam Newton..... anybody talking about him lately? Or Jay Cutler...

I remember when the Colts had Peyton, we didn't have a shot. Winning 8 games a year, it didn't matter how good the Colts were, because we weren't good enough for a legitimate shot at the title anyway.

It's not going to be easy but I think we'll be in the division talks late into the season & we'll probably win it.

Anyone going to crown Schaub as the best QB in the division if we win it again?








I didn't think so.


I'd take all of those qb's in this system over Schaub.

But keep making the excuses. Remember, this is the same fan base and team that largely scoffed at bringing in Peyton manning.

People laughed at the idea.

But sure lets keep on making excuses and pointing out why manning, Brady, luck, and whatever other team and qb are making game winning plays, isn't as good as we think they are.

After all, we are the ones doing it right. Right??

HJam72
10-06-2013, 05:31 PM
I believe I wanted Manning, IIRC, even if we had had to trade away a lot of talent. If his neck hadn't "healed," we could've sucked for whoever is next.

I'm not so sure that 2-14 sounds so bad right now, btw.

thunderkyss
10-06-2013, 05:33 PM
I'd take all of those qb's in this system over Schaub.

But keep making the excuses. Remember, this is the same fan base and team that largely scoffed at bringing in Peyton manning.

People laughed at the idea.

But sure lets keep on making excuses and pointing out why manning, Brady, luck, and whatever other team and qb are making game winning plays, isn't as good as we think they are.

After all, we are the ones doing it right. Right??

Who said that? I said Luck's still got a lot to prove & we're going to win the division. I said we weren't good enough to win the division when the Colts had Peyton.... how is that making excuses?

& there's a big difference between knowing we're not going after Peyton & not wanting Peyton.

cstyle42
10-06-2013, 05:33 PM
I think the colts are going to win the division this year and we are going to be in a dog fight to make the play offs.

I think we probably miss them but I'd like to at least see us get in and give ourselves a chance. But yeah...the texans had a nice little period where we owned the division kind of. But as long as the colts keep luck healthy and we just keep ho-humming along, we're going to struggle to win the division.

But I like good battles. I was not afraid of them drafting luck. I figured it'd make us step our game up. Hasn't happened yet, but we'll see.

Colts are in business to win super bowls. Bob McNair is in business to sell out games. Seattle and San Francisco were in the same position we are in and they got rid of their inadequate qb. We just need to grow some balls as a franchise period.

Showtime100
10-06-2013, 05:35 PM
Remember when they had Manning and we had Carr and Schaub

Yeah.....that was...that was awesome...
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r65/ShowtimeN15580/Pet%20Funny%20Misc/6a00df352345de88340111688dd0d6970c-800wi_zps02fdf4cb.jpg

I'm sorry for that, folks, that title just forced me to think of that Farley bit. Besides, it wasn't at all awesome...lol.

thunderkyss
10-06-2013, 05:36 PM
Colts are in business to win super bowls. Bob McNair is in business to sell out games. Seattle and San Francisco were in the same position we are in and they got rid of their inadequate qb. We just need to grow some balls as a franchise period.

It's funny that San Francisco got rid of their "inadequate" QB because that QB got injured..... & Schaub hasn't missed a game since. Iron Man.

Seattle didn't get rid of their inadequate QB, they didn't have a QB... unless you're talking about Tavaris Jackson.

Tailgate
10-06-2013, 05:37 PM
Colts are in business to win super bowls. Bob McNair is in business to sell out games. Seattle and San Francisco were in the same position we are in and they got rid of their inadequate qb. We just need to grow some balls as a franchise period.

Or just lose 15 games in a season when "the best QB to come out in a long time" is also coming out. Thats one way to go.

Tailgate
10-06-2013, 05:41 PM
I'm still not sold on Luck being a "great" QB, or the Colts being "lucky"

So far so good, but 11 games to go is a long way. Remember it wasn't that long ago that Stafford & Bradford were "on the right track" or "better than Schaub" Or Cam Newton..... anybody talking about him lately? Or Jay Cutler...

I remember when the Colts had Peyton, we didn't have a shot. Winning 8 games a year, it didn't matter how good the Colts were, because we weren't good enough for a legitimate shot at the title anyway.

It's not going to be easy but I think we'll be in the division talks late into the season & we'll probably win it.

Anyone going to crown Schaub as the best QB in the division if we win it again?











I didn't think so.


I think the main difference here is very few if any of those Qbs were were as lauded as Luck was coming out. He has every tool imaginable and most importantly his head might be his biggest tool. Now I understand your point, and he will certainly have to prove it, and he may not... But hard to think otherwise at this point all things considered.

hradhak
10-06-2013, 05:46 PM
It's funny that San Francisco got rid of their "inadequate" QB because that QB got injured..... & Schaub hasn't missed a game since. Iron Man.

Seattle didn't get rid of their inadequate QB, they didn't have a QB... unless you're talking about Tavaris Jackson.

Seattle still doesn't have a QB IMO. 15/31 for 210 yards is not a great game. Yes, he can run and extend plays, but he can't throw, which is what you need in a QB. Neither SF or SEA will make the SB this year. Neither team has a QB that can beat you with his arm. Seattle wins games with defense alone and they should be 3-2 right now.

hradhak
10-06-2013, 05:49 PM
I think the main difference here is very few if any of those Qbs were were as lauded as Luck was coming out. He has every tool imaginable and most importantly his head might be his biggest tool. Now I understand your point, and he will certainly have to prove it, and he may not... But hard to think otherwise at this point all things considered.

Luck still has a lot to prove. He has been good so far, but his team has been opportunistic. I think winning the division for us is not a lock, but we have the better team, and we need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot.

Tailgate
10-06-2013, 05:52 PM
Seattle still doesn't have a QB IMO. 15/31 for 210 yards is not a great game. Yes, he can run and extend plays, but he can't throw, which is what you need in a QB. Neither SF or SEA will make the SB this year. Neither team has a QB that can beat you with his arm. Seattle wins games with defense alone and they should be 3-2 right now.

You may be right. I also think Seattle is struggling now more because their O-line is all banged to hell. They need Lynch going, and much like us their O is predicated on that (which is why we are struggling as well)... and Wilson and Kaep do add more of that elusive element that can keep a play alive that would otherwise be dead we saw last week and will see tonight.

Lurvinator11
10-06-2013, 05:57 PM
But keep making the excuses. Remember, this is the same fan base and team that largely scoffed at bringing in Peyton manning.

?

There is no way, absolutely no way we would have been able to afford Manning.

We could have made an offer, but I seriously doubt Manning would have turned down the offer Denver made him.

I didn't even want to entertain the idea of bringing in Manning, because I knew it wasn't going to happen.

AMartin56
10-06-2013, 06:20 PM
The sad thing is the Schaub could very well slam shut our very small window with his poor play. Watt will need to be resigned if he doesn't bolt due to his dislike of losing...our big free agent signings in the secondary from a few years ago will need to be replaced soon (Joseph is already on the decline) .... The mileage will be piling up on Foster and Andre may not have many years left. We'll probably downgrade from the Ninja to Crick next year as well.

Our track record drafting corners is poor...it took us 5+ years to get a legit #2 receiver that we'll only be able to enjoy for a year or two before he could be asked to move to #1 (starting the search for a #2 all over again).

Nothing in the NFL should take this long. Two teams in our division are already recovering from a few down years....why is it taking us 8 to get to inconsistent play and a handful of wins in the wild card round? Kubiak needs to go. He got us to this point but I think a coaching change is required to get us over the hump.

AMartin56
10-06-2013, 06:21 PM
Double post.

tedr
10-06-2013, 06:36 PM
The sad thing is the Schaub could very well slam shut our very small window with his poor play. Watt will need to be resigned if he doesn't bolt due to his dislike of losing...our big free agent signings in the secondary from a few years ago will need to be replaced soon (Joseph is already on the decline) .... The mileage will be piling up on Foster and Andre may not have many years left. We'll probably downgrade from the Ninja to Crick next year as well.

Our track record drafting corners is poor...it took us 5+ years to get a legit #2 receiver that we'll only be able to enjoy for a year or two before he could be asked to move to #1 (starting the search for a #2 all over again).

Nothing in the NFL should take this long. Two teams in our division are already recovering from a few down years....why is it taking us 8 to get to inconsistent play and a handful of wins in the wild card round? Kubiak needs to go. He got us to this point but I think a coaching change is required to get us over the hump.


This last paragraph is spot on. Should any coach get this long with as little to show for it as Kubiak does? I've been as critical of Schaub as anyone, but it all comes back to the head coach, fair or not. Two playoff wins in seven years is not very impressive.

gafftop
10-06-2013, 06:38 PM
There is no way, absolutely no way we would have been able to afford Manning.

We could have made an offer, but I seriously doubt Manning would have turned down the offer Denver made him.

I didn't even want to entertain the idea of bringing in Manning, because I knew it wasn't going to happen.

I agree. Manning would never come to a GK system. Why would he sacrifice maybe his biggest strength and depend on GKs mettle. Really?

Tesuns
10-06-2013, 06:47 PM
Peyton will be wearing a Broncos jersey when he breaks Favre's record this year. I rather have Peyton over Luck, if I was the Colts.

gafftop
10-06-2013, 08:11 PM
Anybody watch the Colts highlights against Seattle? Luck is better than MS in every aspect. Not even close.
Again I won't be burning a Schaub jersey. MS is MS. It is not his fault that he is the QB of the Texans.

The problem is coaching/Gm/owner. Time to plan for next year. What do we have in the backups. Who knows we may be surprised.