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thunderkyss
10-01-2013, 12:26 PM
Simple question, yes or no. You can get all detailed or what not in your response, but basically the question is have you given up on them & that can mean anything you want it to mean.

Answer yes, but still root for them on Sunday. If it works for you, it works for you. Answer no, but have given up all hope for them to win the Super Bowl now, or anytime in the Kubiak/Schaub era….. it’s all good.

My answer is no. I have not given up on my Houston Texans. I know they’re still answering the same “adversity” question they’ve been answering for the better part of a decade, but I still think there’s plenty of time to right this ship. We may not win this division, we may be playing for a wild card week 17…

But we’re going to win the Super Bowl in the meadowlands.

jaayteetx
10-01-2013, 12:30 PM
I've given up on MS, I think I've seen a large enough sample size to realize he is what he is, an average qb incapable of making a play outside of normal play parameters. In order for this team to do anything, its gonna have to be on the backs of the running game and defense.

HOU-TEX
10-01-2013, 12:32 PM
Schaubiak = Yes

Texans organization = No! This ain't nothing compared to the 2-14 era

Rey
10-01-2013, 12:34 PM
I guess technically for this season yes. But I agreed with the writer before the season that said this was an 8-8 team. I felt like too many fans thought too highly of the team.

I will keep watching, rooting and hoping...but I don't believe in this team. I don't believe they have a chance in hell at going to the superbowl.

Of course they could dig deep, get some breaks and get it done but that's about the last thing I expect.

TexansBlood
10-01-2013, 12:34 PM
Given up being a Texans fan? Nope I will always be a fan.


Given up that we will win the Superbowl this year? YES. Lots of folks came in with high expectations, its only 4 games but we are headed the wrong direction.

No reason to be a homer and start being realistic. With Gary and Shaub it's not looking to good at all.

GNTLEWOLF
10-01-2013, 12:35 PM
I'll play your silly game. The season is too young and we are 2-2. Even though the first two wins could have and probably should have been losses, other teams in the past have rallied after horrible starts and come on strong to win it all. It could happen, but not as long as this team continues to show up for just a half, nor as long as we don't find a solution to crappy QB play (it really is on Schaub ya know---if you are honest), nor as long as Kubiak starts his turtle routine. We have to learn to put our opponents away.

Scooter
10-01-2013, 12:40 PM
of course not. i've had time to clear my head after the last game but my opinions are the same. i've finished with schaub. i am positive that he's giong to be an anchor and the piece that keeps us from going all the way. i think we have the ideal coaches in kubiak and wade. both have proven systems that work exceptionally well, and our roster is stacked after building a team with one player 7 years ago. to that, we have a TON of talent and we'll finish the season with a strong record. there's no reason to give up, we knew this was going to be a tough stretch even if schaub wasnt holding us back, and after 16 games our talent will even out this rough spot.

Playoffs
10-01-2013, 12:46 PM
Outplayed the Super Bowl media favorite Seahawks and tripped ourselves into a loss. Outplayed the SB Champs and short-bussed our way into a loss.

Yeah, I quit. Going to burn my counterfeit jersey and be an Astros fan. :hankpalm:

YeaLikeRightNow
10-01-2013, 12:47 PM
I'll play your silly game. The season is too young and we are 2-2. Even though the first two wins could have and probably should have been losses, other teams in the past have rallied after horrible starts and come on strong to win it all. It could happen, but not as long as this team continues to show up for just a half, nor as long as we don't find a solution to crappy QB play (it really is on Schaub ya know---if you are honest), nor as long as Kubiak starts his turtle routine. We have to learn to put our opponents away.


My thought exactly...but...


I hate to say this:

A lot of information has been exposed to us after the loss to Seattle. I mean, I did not realize until then, that Kubiak had so much control over what offensive plays are called. I always felt Dennison controlled much of that (not that I was satisfied), but a head coach needs to find ways for the team to win and I have not seen one change that would suggest it is even taken into the next week's game plan. Nothing new. I have come to the conclusion that our team lacks the skillsets to defeat soundly, an opposing team. I do not see their "fire" along the sidelines like I see in other teams.

The cookie-cutter offensive plays have become, well...offensive.

I must admit that after the highs I was experiencing during the first half of the game against Seattle, and then the hard realization of the loss in the second half; I lost my interest to even watch any more football the rest of the day. I was hard-pressed to watch the Saints/Dolphins game last night. The only reason I watched it was to delight at the fact that an unbeaten team would fall, and to me that's kind of sick.

Why does it have to be us Houston fans that suffer oh so much?

Thorn
10-01-2013, 12:47 PM
I never gave up on the Oilers, and I'll never give up on the Texans.

Doesn't mean I won't b!tch about what I think is wrong with them though. But, I think the poll and the question is more along the lines of have I given up on this season? Nope. They can still turn all this around. It's why I watch every Sunday. If they win, I'll be happy until the first game the lose, then I'll be in here b!tching about what I think went wrong.

I'm a fan, so I think my behavior is fairly typical.

Texan_Bill
10-01-2013, 12:50 PM
I never gave up on the Oilers, and I'll never give up on the Texans.

Doesn't mean I won't b!tch about what I think is wrong with them though. But, I think the poll and the question is more along the lines of have I given up on this season? Nope. They can still turn all this around. It's why I watch every Sunday. If they win, I'll be happy until the first game the lose, then I'll be in here b!tching about what I think went wrong.

I'm a fan, so I think my behavior is fairly typical.

Exactly.... And I thought you were getting too old to have lucid, intelligent, well thought out posts. :kitten:

fiasco west
10-01-2013, 12:53 PM
Meh no.

The division is all that matters. When you look at the Titans next games they are all very losable.

The Colts will be a tougher out, but if Seattle beats Indy (which is likely) and Texans get a tough win then they are right back on track to doing what they want to do.

I'm not concerned with winning the regular season championship. We were in that running last year. By this time last year we were Denver. Beating up teams, blowing out teams, everyone praised with how balanced we were, some had us going to the superbowl...etc etc...I'd rather be the battle tested team. That team usually does well in the playoffs.

Schaub can turn it around. Stranger things have happened in the NFL.

DBCooper
10-01-2013, 12:55 PM
This is still a really good football team.

Hell, we beat the Seahawks, who are another very good football team, for more than 3 quarters.

It comes down to Kubiak for me. Does he change his mindset and stop being predictable? I don't know, I hope so though.

I know everyone's big concern is Schaub, but he is the best QB we have for this Kubiak led system. I don't see Schaub as our QB next year, but I do for this year. He has to make the plays when they count and we will have a fighting chance to win.

And please to God, no more pick 6's for the man!

ObsiWan
10-01-2013, 12:58 PM
No.

Who gives up on a four quarter game because they are dissatisfied with the outcome of the first quarter?

Who does that?

I hope the team doesn't think like some of the so-called fanbase does. "Oh woe is us. After four games we're only 2 and 2, we'll NEVER get to the Super Bowl now... we may as well quit."

Who.
Does.
That??

Too many warriors on this team for them to give up on this season and for me to give up on them.

DBCooper
10-01-2013, 12:58 PM
I never gave up on the Oilers, and I'll never give up on the Texans.

Doesn't mean I won't b!tch about what I think is wrong with them though. But, I think the poll and the question is more along the lines of have I given up on this season? Nope. They can still turn all this around. It's why I watch every Sunday. If they win, I'll be happy until the first game the lose, then I'll be in here b!tching about what I think went wrong.

I'm a fan, so I think my behavior is fairly typical.

Nothing about you is typical, Thorn.

Tailgate
10-01-2013, 01:00 PM
Just cant fathom giving up on a team after 4 weeks sitting at .500. We get Duane Brown back and this team is going to put a run together, and just maybe we are clicking at the end of the season, the opposite of the last two seasons.

The offseason is long and brutal and in no way is this year even close to being over. Get over it!! We have a TON of huge games this year, and I have a feeling things are going to get real exciting for us. We are just paying our dues right now. :)

Thorn
10-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Nothing about you is typical, Thorn.

While that may be true, all it reveals is that I'm insane, not wrong. :)

ObsiWan
10-01-2013, 01:05 PM
Exactly.... And I thought you were getting too old to have lucid, intelligent, well thought out posts. :kitten:
Hey, quit poking Thorn, I'm as old as he is... :)
:voodoo:

cstyle42
10-01-2013, 01:08 PM
Bob McNair has failed us so I say yes. I have 0 confidence in Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak is a stubborn, hardheaded, behind the times, stupid idiot and at this point I cannot stand to see his playing not to lose cowardly face. The rest of the players on the team I wish them the best and I hope Andre wakes up and go plays with a better qb for one year and wins a super bowl because it's not happening in this good ol boy systematic football town.

Double Barrel
10-01-2013, 01:08 PM
I never give up on a season until it is confirmed that they cannot make the playoffs or they lose a playoff game.

I'm not the most optimistic fan at times, but that doesn't mean I've given up on them.

I was the same way with the Oilers. Even after 35-3, I still tuned in the next year for the crazy 11 game win streak and the Buddy Ryan punching Kevin Gilbride debacle and losing to Joe Montana as a Chief.

DBCooper
10-01-2013, 01:09 PM
Hey, quit poking Thorn, I'm as old as he is... :)
:voodoo:

Yep, but not as crotchety!

fiasco west
10-01-2013, 01:09 PM
Bob McNair has failed us so I say yes. I have 0 confidence in Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak is a stubborn, hardheaded, behind the times, stupid idiot and at this point I cannot stand to see this playing not to lose cowardly face. The rest of the players on the team I wish them the best and I hope Andre wakes up and go plays with a better qb for one year and wins a super bowl because it's not happening in this good ol boy systematic football town.

Well you are certainly alone in that wish I hope.

2012Champs
10-01-2013, 01:10 PM
Outplayed the Super Bowl media favorite Seahawks and tripped ourselves into a loss. Outplayed the SB Champs and short-bussed our way into a loss.

Yeah, I quit. Going to burn my counterfeit jersey and be an Astros fan. :hankpalm:



Kind of my thoughts. I like Matt Schaub however unpopular that might be but his play here recently has been bad. I do not see his mobility, arm strength or ability to read a defense as the huge liabilities that others do. I think he has to make smarter choices when it comes to forcing throws which has caused the pick 6 buffet.

Honoring Earl 34
10-01-2013, 01:11 PM
No ... but I didn't have great expectations to begin with . I didn't think they were an elite team fighting for a super bowl .

The Texans have to do something bold to have a chance and I don't see it . Why ... the Ravens came out of nowhere by firing the OC and letting the talent take over .

Kubiak believes in systems winning championships . I think it's salary cordination and a strong QB . The QB can hide more shortcomings on your team than any other position . You need an elite guy and then you have to pay him but if he's the real deal , he's worth it . You also pay for a LT , shutdown CB , a stud WR , a pass rusher , and the re evaluate .

Marcus
10-01-2013, 01:14 PM
Why does it have to be us Houston fans that suffer oh so much?

Are you waiting for a Detroit fan to hand you the tissue box? :crying:

badboy
10-01-2013, 01:16 PM
No as we are our own worst enemy. Baltimore beat us but we could have made a game out of it. McNair needs to have a meeting with Gary and Wade , do some butt chewing and introduce them to a new Special Teams coach; then look each in the eye and say "hint, hint."

Double Barrel
10-01-2013, 01:17 PM
Are you waiting for a Detroit fan to hand you the tissue box? :crying:

yeah, no doubt, it could be worse. We could be Cleveland! :eek:

thunderkyss
10-01-2013, 01:18 PM
I kinda figured as much when I started the poll, but wanted to hear you say it.

No doubt about it, the best fans in the NFL.

2012Champs
10-01-2013, 01:19 PM
I kinda figured as much when I started the poll, but wanted to hear you say it.

No doubt about it, the best fans in the NFL.



I wouldnt say the base are the best in the NFL as I see Houston in general as about as fairweather as they come. I havent really lived anywhere else though so my view point is certainly slanted

chicagotexan2
10-01-2013, 01:23 PM
Give up in the sense that I totally doubt this QB can get the job done or at least not eff up royally - then yes.

But this is the team I root for. Ive watched every single game except one since the teams inception and ill keep watching regardless of the record.

Double Barrel
10-01-2013, 01:23 PM
I kinda figured as much when I started the poll, but wanted to hear you say it.

No doubt about it, the best fans in the NFL.

Well, like my buddy always likes to point out, the fine folks of Texans Talk and those that call sports talk radio only represent maybe 1% of the fanbase. The passionate vocal ones that never seem to get enough Texans football on Sundays.

This city has a great fanbase for winning teams, no doubt about it. But, it's also a fanbase than is often short on patience. Never having a football team in the Super Bowl will do that to generations of fans.

eriadoc
10-01-2013, 01:25 PM
Given up? Hell no. I'm still pulling for them, and the team has too much talent to write them off. But I have adjusted expectations, because I have given up any hope that Scahub can be the long term answer at the most important position on the field. So while I haven't given up on the team, I am not going to saddle myself with unrealistic expectations that only serve to frustrate and annoy me.

But we’re going to win the Super Bowl in the meadowlands.

And I'm going to win the lottery! Woohoo!

YeaLikeRightNow
10-01-2013, 01:30 PM
Are you waiting for a Detroit fan to hand you the tissue box? :crying:

LOL....anybody but a Detroit fan Marcus...heck, they actually beat us last Thanksgiving! :spy:

The1ApplePie
10-01-2013, 01:40 PM
Give up? No

Worse QBs have won Super Bowls.

Some teams just start off slow. The Giants start like crap and have won two Super Bowls off of horrible first halves.

The AFC South is turning out not to be the cakewalk it was expected to be. Meanwhile the NFC East fell off a cliff. Preseason and early season guessing doesn't amount to much.

The Texans aren't probably in the running for the No. 1 seed in the playoffs, but they do just have to finish ahead of the Titans and Colts.

EllisUnit
10-01-2013, 01:41 PM
Give up, hell na i dont give up. We are 2-2 its not like we're 0-4. We have the talent to go all the way but i dont care if we lose 30 games in a row i'll never give up on my boys.

Grams
10-01-2013, 01:42 PM
i have been a fan since the first day and will continue to be a fan.

However, I do realize that this is just a game and entertainment. No reason to get overly frustrated over things you have no control over.

I have no control over the Texans and who they start, how they play, etc. But I will watch and cheer them on each game. If they make it to the playoffs, good, if not - the sun will still come up in the morning and set at night.

As long and my kids and grandchildren are safe and healthy, what the Texans do or do not do is not going to ruin my day.

noxiousdog
10-01-2013, 01:54 PM
I think my brain exploded.

How can we have all the Schaub and Kubiak negativity yet 91% of the people still haven't given up on them?

Is this a dumb and dumber situation? "So you're saying there's a chance...."

fiasco west
10-01-2013, 02:06 PM
I think my brain exploded.

How can we have all the Schaub and Kubiak negativity yet 91% of the people still haven't given up on them?

Is this a dumb and dumber situation? "So you're saying there's a chance...."

Pretty simple.

People think the problems are fixable.

We are not the Jags here, it is NOT a talent problem. It's not a issue where we just don't have the talent to compete. You bet against Cushing and Watt.

It's not like Schaub has this long history of throwing pick sixes either.

The problems are fixable, they could be 0-4, they could also be 3-1. I think the guys on this forum have seen enough football to realize when your team is 2-2 (1-0 in the division) is just WAY too early to be giving up on the season.

thunderkyss
10-01-2013, 02:08 PM
I think my brain exploded.

How can we have all the Schaub and Kubiak negativity yet 91% of the people still haven't given up on them?

Is this a dumb and dumber situation? "So you're saying there's a chance...."

Well, you've got to read.

Most guys are going to root for this team 1 game at a time & see what happens in January.

Thorn
10-01-2013, 02:12 PM
Pretty simple.

People think the problems are fixable.

We are not the Jags here, it is NOT a talent problem. It's not a issue where we just don't have the talent to compete. You bet against Cushing and Watt.

It's not like Schaub has this long history of throwing pick sixes either.

The problems are fixable, they could be 0-4, they could also be 3-1. I think the guys on this forum have seen enough football to realize when your team is 2-2 (1-0 in the division) is just WAY too early to be giving up on the season.

And we CAN feel this way and be hopeful about this season while we still dislike certain aspects of the Texans. There are so many parts that go into an NFL team that some of them can suck and you can still win a super bowl. We've seen that happen to many times. Just because I say I don't think the future resides in either Schaub or Kubiak doesn't mean they can't win a super bowl. Stanger things have happened in the NFL and you've all probably seen them already.

TexanBacker93
10-01-2013, 02:13 PM
I'll never give up on them. They still have a great group of players and have the ability to win a lot of games. I've given up hoping Kubiak gets it, but he's not worth giving up on the team.

Trail.Blazr
10-01-2013, 02:16 PM
Given up being a Texans fan? Nope I will always be a fan.


Given up that we will win the Superbowl this year? YES. Lots of folks came in with high expectations, its only 4 games but we are headed the wrong direction.

No reason to be a homer and start being realistic. With Gary and Shaub it's not looking to good at all.

What he said. It's 4 games this season, but as in other recent posts I've made, I'm going back to last season, as the sting from getting throttled by real Contenders is still relevant as we roll into this season. NOTHING has shown me this team has taken any strides to become a legit contender this year.

fiasco west
10-01-2013, 02:21 PM
that's exactly the type of mentality that has allowed joe marciano, kubiak, and schaub to have such long tenured jobs in houston.

texan fans have the same mentality of their owner.

yet fans wonder why we cant get rid of them.

I'm glad our owner is more patient than fans. Would be silly to give up on the season, trade off Andre for some picks, throw a young QB to the 9ers and just say "Next year!" yeah, that's a good message to send to your fans who are paying to come see these games. I don't EVER want to be in a situation again where I'm hoping my team misses a FG so that we could draft Reggie Bush. No thanks.

It's cool though, we all have higher expectations of this team. 8-8 is a failure now and not a success. So say what you want about McNair, he bought Houston another football team and in his short tenure has made them one of the franchise to watch. The only thing this franchise is missing is a superbowl win or two but I feel like as long as he's trusting his football guys and not meddling in their business like another Texas owner then his patience will be rewarded.

I also think because he's seen as a patient owner when/if the head coaching job opens up...the great established coaches will give us a look. Unlike a Dallas or Oakland situation where no one really wants to coach there because they could fire you the same season they hire you or like in Dallas where Jerry also wants to be coach.

EllisUnit
10-01-2013, 02:22 PM
I think my brain exploded.

How can we have all the Schaub and Kubiak negativity yet 91% of the people still haven't given up on them?

Is this a dumb and dumber situation? "So you're saying there's a chance...."

The poll asks if we have given up on the texans, not schaub or kubiak. I couldnt give up on guys like Watt, Foster, AJ, cush, (ironically) KJ, O.D, and everyone else.

noxiousdog
10-01-2013, 02:23 PM
Well, you've got to read.

Most guys are going to root for this team 1 game at a time & see what happens in January.

I'm going to root for them too, but I know there needs to be a change.

deucetx
10-01-2013, 02:26 PM
It's rather simple. Just because that most are frustrated it isn't a sign that we are giving up on our team. We'll all still be there cheering, ranting and cussing on game day. Nothing will change. Expectations may have fallen but that has little to do with are you a fan or giving up on your team. If we can stomach the first ten years, Choke City (sorry for the reminder of that game....), etc., then we can get through this.

I remember when our fanbase was accused of accepting being just medicore. That we weren't passionate and didn't stand behind our team. I see quite a bit of passion and a lot of fans who are tired of selling for medicore and I like it. I have no issues with folks voicing there frustrations. We've been at this a while going back to Oiler days and well....we want to freaking win one! Already told my wife 'Will I see one of my teams win the title before I freaking die?' (I got a ways to go since I'm only 36).

Think the most stressful thing is this team is freaking stacked. I mean look at this roster. Other than RT, LG, and now maybe QB, this offense has all the pieces. Even with the two biggest issues on the line they are still at least around medicore. The defense is one of the best in the league and can shut down teams by today's NFL standards which is basically holding a team under 20 points.

We should be winning with no if's, and's or but's about it. It should be Broncos and Texans in AFC title game with little doubt. But apparently right now we're the definition of 'That's why they play the game on the field and not paper.'

fiasco west
10-01-2013, 02:26 PM
And we CAN feel this way and be hopeful about this season while we still dislike certain aspects of the Texans. There are so many parts that go into an NFL team that some of them can suck and you can still win a super bowl. We've seen that happen to many times. Just because I say I don't think the future resides in either Schaub or Kubiak doesn't mean they can't win a super bowl. Stanger things have happened in the NFL and you've all probably seen them already.

Yep. Stranger things have definitely happen. (Cardinals playoff run immediately comes to mind...) and the team has the talent to go deep in the playoffs, get a lucky bounce here and there (which every superbowl team does) and make it to the big one.

So again, they are 2-2 and 1-0 in the division. I don't think they'll sweep the division, but I think they'll get close to. I still think we are better than the Colts on a whole...I guess we will learn a lot this week about who the better team will be since both teams will have played the Hawks and 9ers.

fiasco west
10-01-2013, 02:30 PM
It's rather simple. Just because that most are frustrated it isn't a sign that we are giving up on our team. We'll all still be there cheering, ranting and cussing on game day. Nothing will change. Expectations may have fallen but that has little to do with are you a fan or giving up on your team. If we can stomach the first ten years, Choke City (sorry for the reminder of that game....), etc., then we can get through this.

I remember when our fanbase was accused of accepting being just medicore. That we weren't passionate and didn't stand behind our team. I see quite a bit of passion and a lot of fans who are tired of selling for medicore and I like it. I have no issues with folks voicing there frustrations. We've been at this a while going back to Oiler days and well....we want to freaking win one! Already told my wife 'Will I see one of my teams win the title before I freaking die?' (I got a ways to go since I'm only 36).

Think the most stressful thing is this team is freaking stacked. I mean look at this roster. Other than RT, LG, and now maybe QB, this offense has all the pieces. Even with the two biggest issues on the line they are still at least around medicore. The defense is one of the best in the league and can shut down teams by today's NFL standards which is basically holding a team under 20 points.

We should be winning with no if's, and's or but's about it. It should be Broncos and Texans in AFC title game with little doubt. But apparently right now we're the definition of 'That's why they play the game on the field and not paper.'

Choke City and the Rockets (different sport of course) is a GREAT example. That Rocket team had a history of choking...and this in a sport that is usually pretty consistent with it's results, where a team can rack up championships consistently...

As if a switch flipped those rockets turned choke city into clutch city. So much so that their mascot is now named 'Clutch'

Nah, I won't give up on the team until it's certain they are out of it.

htownfan32
10-01-2013, 02:48 PM
I don't give up on this team. I feel like a ****ty two percenter if I even miss part of a game, win or loss.

That being said, I'm critical and I realize that parts of this team are not working and I like discussing what to do about them, which is the reason I'm on this wonderful board.

Dread-Head
10-01-2013, 02:59 PM
Exactly.... And I thought you were getting too old to have lucid, intelligent, well thought out posts. :kitten:

When all the bandwagon fans jump off Bill & I can put our feet up. I aint goin' ANYWHERE!

Texan_Bill
10-01-2013, 03:01 PM
When all the bandwagon fans jump off Bill & I can put our feet up. I aint goin' ANYWHERE!

Testify, my brother!

fiasco west
10-01-2013, 03:03 PM
nobody including me is saying trade dre. He isnt the problem.

schaub has been qb for 7 years, kubiak a coach since 2006.

At some point, patience has an expiration date.

Actually, one guy in this thread said he'd wish Andre would go play for a better QB and win a superbowl elsewhere.

That's basically what giving up on this season means. That means you hope the team realizes it's time to change things drastically. Time to fire Kubiak (Interim coaches are usually a waste of time...) maybe clean house and start anew. I mean you give up so you think there is a 0% chance at winning this thing any ways.

Who cares about 7 years? About 3 of those years actually trying to get this team to look like a NFL team. Any ways Last year they were a elite team and lost to another elite team in the playoffs. I honestly think that's all McNair is and should look at. I said this last year but there is no shame in losing to the Patriots in the playoffs. The year before that the team overachieved...

I'm not saying Kubiak is the solution...but I think it would be the dumbest thing McNair has done if he fired him in mid-season UNLESS the team was like 2-8 or something.

ObsiWan
10-01-2013, 03:12 PM
I think my brain exploded.

How can we have all the Schaub and Kubiak negativity yet 91% of the people still haven't given up on them?

Is this a dumb and dumber situation? "So you're saying there's a chance...."
It's one thing to be whine and gripe and complain and b!tch.
Especially when there's so much fresh material every week.

But it's something else entirely to be a quitter.
We ain't quitters. We're Texans.
:texflag:

Playoffs
10-01-2013, 03:43 PM
When all the bandwagon fans jump off Bill & I can put our feet up. I aint goin' ANYWHERE!

Testify, my brother!

Save a vuggin seat for me! :texans:

Double Barrel
10-01-2013, 04:09 PM
that's exactly the type of mentality that has allowed joe marciano, kubiak, and schaub to have such long tenured jobs in houston.

texan fans have the same mentality of their owner.

yet fans wonder why we cant get rid of them.

At some point you will come to the realization that slamming your head against a wall over and over is not moving the wall but only giving you headache and a dent in your noggin.

Texans fans---> :brickwall: <----Texans front office

The only true power fans have to exert is as consumers, and that's not going to happen in the PSL age. Even during 2-14, the stadium was "sold out". Merchandise sales obviously dropped, but axing Capers & Co. had less to do with that and everything to do with 14 losses in a season.

My own perspective is to just accept our limitations as a fanbase and enjoy the entertainment product put in front of us as best we can. Otherwise, you'll end up with a headache and a feeling of helplessness.

Honoring Earl 34
10-01-2013, 05:24 PM
At some point you will come to the realization that slamming your head against a wall over and over is not moving the wall but only giving you headache and a dent in your noggin.

Texans fans---> :brickwall: <----Texans front office

The only true power fans have to exert is as consumers, and that's not going to happen in the PSL age. Even during 2-14, the stadium was "sold out". Merchandise sales obviously dropped, but axing Capers & Co. had less to do with that and everything to do with 14 losses in a season.

My own perspective is to just accept our limitations as a fanbase and enjoy the entertainment product put in front of us as best we can. Otherwise, you'll end up with a headache and a feeling of helplessness.

You'll end up with a face like JJ Watt .

Matt should come out with the Schaub Smoky . The only smoker that burns 100% real Matt Schaub Texans gear . Ummm ummm . Just think of a battle red brisket or liberty white smoked yardbird . :worldpeace:

BullNation4Life
10-01-2013, 05:28 PM
Have I given up on the Texans...

Hell No!


Have I given up on Schaub and Kubiak?


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ThaJokaa
10-01-2013, 06:41 PM
On my Texans NO, on Schuab more or less, im hoping he turns it around and fixes all this BS he has going on and make me a believer again. I mean he did put up 300+ yards on the 'Hawks, which one team has done all season and idk how many games back from the end of last season.
It was just his one CRUCIAL mistake that did us in.
When I first did a W/L expectation before the season started, I had us being 2-2 at this point. Very pissed off on how we lost the Seahawks game, but ish happens, this is football and as we saw, ONE play can make it or break it. We have the #1 Ranked Defense and #4 Ranked Offense, so I think we'll pull it together and grab our division back from those 3-1 scrubs that are at top for now.
Only thing that worries me is if Cushing goes down again, then we really are screwed. I noticed once again that once he went out of the game, thats when the 'Hawks started rallying.

KA4Texan
10-01-2013, 06:47 PM
Angry as hell, Yes.

Given up, NO.

escrimador
10-01-2013, 06:54 PM
Definitely NO. But I need a win soon or i'll have to start taking anti depressants again:hairpull:

The Pencil Neck
10-01-2013, 07:35 PM
After 4 games, we're 2-2. I expected to be 3-1 at this point (with a close loss to the Seahawks) and I expected to start the season off at 3-2 (with losses to the Seahawks and Niners).

But this is a good team. I expect us to win a lot of games this year. The Titans and Colts are better than I thought they'd be and we might not win the Division. It's going to be a fight.

Like I said in another thread, starting off fast last year got us nowhere. Let's see if we can finish fast this year.

HouTx11
10-01-2013, 07:43 PM
NO!!!!!!!!

IlliniJen
10-01-2013, 08:30 PM
Schaubiak = Yes

Texans organization = No! This ain't nothing compared to the 2-14 era

This.

MEGA SWATT
10-01-2013, 11:55 PM
The team, never....No.

Given up on MS - yes. He doesn't have a strong arm, doesn't move well in the pocket, can't run for a first down, can't read the defense/blitz, easily sacked, highly predictable and overrated stat-wise . He should change his number to "6" and I think we all know why.

Kubes - not yet.

I'm hopeful kubes and MS can work to protect the team from penalties, turnovers, stupid play calling and pick sixes.

rmartin65
10-02-2013, 07:24 AM
No. I am not a cheerleader though, so you can skip the all-caps and exclamation marks.

Dread-Head
10-02-2013, 11:37 AM
When all the Band waggon fans jump off me and Bill can put our feet up. Vugg it. I aint going ANYWHERE!


Testify my brother!

Save a vuggin seat for me! :texans:



I'm bringing a bottle of potato vodka. If you want to mix it with juice bring our own I drink mine straight.

SAMURAITEXAN
10-02-2013, 12:11 PM
No, never give up on Texans period. On Matt, most likely yes.

ObsiWan
10-02-2013, 12:34 PM
Yep, but not as crotchety!

Everyone has a talent.
Crotchetyism is his.
Don't hate. Appreciate.
:cowboy1:

JCTexan
10-02-2013, 12:36 PM
No. The Texans have the top ranked defense and at least a competent offense that's somehow ranked in the top five. I'm pissed off at Schaub, but I can't fathom him continuing to throw pick-6s in every game this season like he has. The QB has to be better, without question, for this team to be a contender for the Superbowl.

Dread-Head
10-02-2013, 12:39 PM
No. The Texans have the top ranked defense and at least a competent offense that's somehow ranked in the top five. I'm pissed off at Schaub, but I can't fathom him continuing to throw pick-6s in every game this season like he has. The QB has to be better, without question, for this team to be a contender for the Superbowl.

THANK YOU! Rep forthcoming...

Uncle Rico
10-02-2013, 12:42 PM
Some of the remarks here are downright depressing. I wonder how many would eat crow if this team were to make a long run, or if the bunched up panties are just to uncomfortable to admit you were wrong. It's cool to be critical, that's being a fan. Not so much to openly acknowledge a lost season with only 4 freaking weeks gone by. I remember watching an old Oiler team start the season 0-4 only to run off 12 straight. End result obviously was not what the fans expect, but point being its too early to give up hope. This football season is gonna suck for most of yall apparently and I feel sorry for yall. Not to worry though, there will be plenty of room on the bandwagon later this year for all you "real" fans.

Offense wins games. Defense wins championships. I feel good about this team.

HTown2ATX
10-02-2013, 12:52 PM
Have not given up on this team of 2013 by any means and never will on the organization. Will rep Houston to the day I die.

That said, I freely admit I love to bag on Schaub $hitting his pants and make meme's about him but that doesn't mean I don't hope he gets better. But as long as he plays like crap I'm not going to be an ankle grabbing fan that is just happy to have a team and slurp at the altar of mediocrity and never say anything negative when it's warranted!

(This is venting frustration from kool aid drinking, sunshine pumping, rose glasses wearing fans on our Austin Texans group page, not necessarily aimed at people on TT but oh boy I'm sure they're here if I look.)

DBCooper
10-02-2013, 12:56 PM
Everyone has a talent.
Crotchetyism is his.
Don't hate. Appreciate.
:cowboy1:

Lol!

If I ever met Thorn, I'd probably give him a big hug and kiss!

b0ng
10-02-2013, 01:11 PM
I hit the wrong button in the poll, fyi

YeaLikeRightNow
10-02-2013, 01:14 PM
No, I have not given up on "the team":


Sometimes in our everyday lives things don't always go so well. Come gameday we all look for something as simple as a Texans win to brighten-up what may have been a dismal week in our personal, everyday struggles. I've been there before, and I find it hard to watch any other football games after the Texans lose.

I know a lot of folks are easily hyped-up for game day...we're either attending the game, tailgating, or at home firing up the bar-b-que pit and having friends over to share good food and share a Texans win.

Sometimes things just don't go "our" way and we seem lost and dillusional when the Texans end up giving a game away as in the loss to Seattle.

Was I upset?

Yes, extremely upset to the point of what seems a sickening waste of time and hard-earned money in either attending a loss, or witnessing it on television. But, I have to remember that our team doesn't like it either. Just seeing JJ in the game all bloodied-up proves to me, the passion he and the team have to win, and I sit dumbfounded by the loss.

Every time we lose or give a game away, I am haunted by that infamous Oilers/Buffalo game, a time when our city was euphoric to taste simply an invite to the Super Bowl. How close we came. To add icing to that cake of futility, the owner moves to another city and lo and behold, our former team finds itself in the Super Bowl.

It's these visions of our city's NFL past that force us to savor whatever we have to represent our own desires to succeed...it's a personal thing. When us Texans fans ungloriously voiced and displayed our dismay with the Seattle loss, it was more a loss of ego than the actual loss for our team that put so many fans in a frenzy. The frustrations of losing are deeply rooted in the past failures of Houston sports teams.

We have one of the most powerful teams in the NFL today, a classy group of professionals and an equally classy owner who want nothing more than a big Super Bowl ring for the Texans and the city of Houston.

We have two choices...we can support them in both winning and losing, or we can always turn to the Cowboys.

Take your pick.

Norg
10-02-2013, 01:31 PM
No this is my team I will never give up on them win or lose

besides ive been thinking about it and man 2-2 we are in the mist of playing our hardest part of our sechudle

and main point we only played 25% of our season 25 percent !!!!!!!!!! the SB is not won in Sep


that's all I got to say

handswarmer
10-02-2013, 01:35 PM
Outplayed the Super Bowl media favorite Seahawks and tripped ourselves into a loss. Outplayed the SB Champs and short-bussed our way into a loss.

Yeah, I quit. Going to burn my counterfeit jersey and be an Astros fan. :hankpalm:

Last years game or this years???

Uncle Rico
10-02-2013, 03:30 PM
Last years game or this years???

Hey buddy nice to see you around again. Yikes I guess Joe had a rough game on Sunday, but hey Buffalo is much improved and will probably look like a quality loss at the end of the season.

bckey
10-02-2013, 07:36 PM
I haven't given up on the Texans as far as watching them and cheering for them to win. But I have never liked Kubiak. I was ready to donate money to have the "fire kubiak" billboard that was to be put up on 610 when that idea was floating around a few years ago. The idea died quickly when Kubiak was given an extension. Kubiak will never win a superbowl as a head coach in Houston. He has been out coached over and over since he has been here and he will continue to be out coached because he is nothing more than a "supporting cast" coach (oc) and not good at leading (head coach).

And I don't really have to say anything about Matt Schaub other than we have already seen his best football.

Until these 2 are gone this team will continue to be a rollercoaster ride. Doing just enough to keep fans thinking this will be the year only to end up disappointed and talking about the upcoming draft. Rinse/repeat. Last year was a real good gauge for how this teams character is. They couldn't clinch homefield when it was practically handed to them. The Packers and Patriots flat out embarrassed them and showed everyone that the Texans were not ready for "prime time" with the elite teams. The Vikings and Colts further deflated them with back to back whoopins.

I've seen this scenario played out so many times as an old Oilers fan. The Texans have no killer instinct and that starts with comfortable Kubiak. McNair is also part of the problem by being so painfully patient. Of course all the money McNair is making helps.

If Schaub plays bad in front of a national audience on sunday night then maybe....nah. Its on Kubiak. Schaub is a good kid.:rant: