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gary
09-29-2013, 05:59 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.

amazing80
09-29-2013, 06:00 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.

Why not, its not like we actually CONTROL ANYTHING. If he gets hurt so be it, if fans WANT him to get hurt, so be it. At the end of the day he still sucks.

EllisUnit
09-29-2013, 06:02 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.

Agree i never wish injury on anyone, as i believe in bad karma, but i do however wish for a QB change regardless of how we get it.

Bulls on Parade
09-29-2013, 06:10 PM
Gary, it's getting out of control but I don't blame people. I was one of Matt Schaub's biggest supporters and probably the most positive person on the board. And even I'm ready to see a quarterback change.

eriadoc
09-29-2013, 06:10 PM
I want him to go SIT down.

DocBar
09-29-2013, 06:12 PM
I guess I missed the posts where people were wanting Schaub hurt. I want him replaced but not hurt.

WolverineFan
09-29-2013, 06:13 PM
I don't think guys are actually wishing harm on Schaub. They just know that we need a QB change and Kubiak is not going to make a change unless that happens.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 06:14 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.

Where's this coming from gary? I haven't seen anyone seriously hope for Matt to get injured.

I'm hoping he comes down with the flu..... correction, I'm hoping the coaching staff says he came down with a case of the flu for next weeks game. Or maybe even a case of turf toe.... I think most of us can believe that, he played the second half of the tampa game with a broke foot a couple of years ago.

gary
09-29-2013, 06:15 PM
Why not, its not like we actually CONTROL ANYTHING. If he gets hurt so be it, if fans WANT him to get hurt, so be it. At the end of the day he still sucks.:vincepalm:

DX-TEX
09-29-2013, 06:15 PM
How about just a hammy injury? Its not that severe but would suit our purposes.

TejasTom
09-29-2013, 06:19 PM
How about just a hammy injury? Its not that severe but would suit our purposes.

I think you have to move to pull a hammy.

gary
09-29-2013, 06:19 PM
Gary, it's getting out of control but I don't blame people. I was one of Matt Schaub's biggest supporters and probably the most positive person on the board. And even I'm ready to see a quarterback change.Not my point though. I do not see thread anymore.

EllisUnit
09-29-2013, 06:24 PM
I think you have to move to pull a hammy.

Would be the slowest moving hammy pull in human history, then atleast schaub would be in the history books unless his 3 pick 6s have already put him there.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 06:26 PM
How about just a hammy injury? Its not that severe but would suit our purposes.

How about he had to miss the game because his wife's sister's best friends baby daddy's girlfriend was about to have her 12th baby.

Very important for Schaub to make that right?

Rey
09-29-2013, 06:27 PM
I can't root for a guy to get hurt. I just can't do that.

Maybe a slight sprain that takes him out but turns out to be nothing, but I don't can anyone seriously injured

HouTx11
09-29-2013, 06:29 PM
I wish no harm on Schaub never never never, and I don't hate him. But if he were to be benched for the 49er game I wouldn't complain. Might help the Texans. Should be a loss anyways if he starts.

BullNation4Life
09-29-2013, 06:53 PM
Look, I never want to wish a guy to go down, I just don't need that karma. BUT, say if Watt so happens to trip in the walk through this week and Schaub takes a vicious shot to the nad-sack and has to miss this week against the 49ers....


I'm not gonna lose sleep over it....

Hervoyel
09-29-2013, 07:21 PM
Where's this coming from gary? I haven't seen anyone seriously hope for Matt to get injured.

I'm hoping he comes down with the flu..... correction, I'm hoping the coaching staff says he came down with a case of the flu for next weeks game. Or maybe even a case of turf toe.... I think most of us can believe that, he played the second half of the tampa game with a broke foot a couple of years ago.

That's where I'm coming from. I'm not hoping he gets hurt. I'm saying that I need to see this man sit down and stop attempting to play QB for my team and I know that the only way that will happen (knowing Kubiak) is if he's injured.

I'd be perfectly happy with a bout of upset stomach brought about by gas station sushi (seemed like a good idea at the time....) if it would put this guy on the bench long enough to see if Yates or Keenum gives us a spark.

Pollardized
09-29-2013, 07:24 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.

I'm thinking maybe Matt already goes down. Would definitely explain how he has kept his job as an NFL quarterback this long.... :kitten:

Norg
09-29-2013, 07:25 PM
I heard some people were burning schub jerserys in the park lot after the game


if we do get a new QB plzzz the #8 should be Banned no future QB for the Texans can wear that number LOL

Marcus
09-29-2013, 07:35 PM
LOL. I think some posters in here pulling this phony 'stay classy' act are liars.

You want Schaub to get hurt. Fess up and admit it. Hell, even I want him to get hurt. I'm a realist. It's the only way Kubiak replaces him.

CloakNNNdagger
09-29-2013, 07:38 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.

Schaub's already been playing injured.........evidently, just not enough for stubborn Kubiak to admit it and go to another option.

utahmark
09-29-2013, 07:43 PM
I think you have to move to pull a hammy.

He was born without a hammy.:cow:

SchaubApologist
09-29-2013, 07:43 PM
LOL. I think some posters in here pulling this phony 'stay classy' act are liars.

You want Schaub to get hurt. Fess up and admit it. Hell, even I want him to get hurt. I'm a realist. It's the only way Kubiak replaces him.

haha, i don't want schaub hurt...

but, i want him to keep playing so we'll have a good enough draft pick to snag a real franchise qb.

in other words, schaub gives us our best chance at obtaining a franchise qb.

in other words in other words, schaub is the 3rd best QB on the roster.

handswarmer
09-29-2013, 07:46 PM
Any fan wishing his teams player or any other teams player, to get hurt is a d****ebag.

revoke their fandom...end of story

michaelm
09-29-2013, 08:05 PM
I don't want Matt Schaub to get hurt in a football game.
I want to choke slam him myself.

cstyle42
09-29-2013, 08:58 PM
Joe Mays please help us... practice starts on tuesday.

chenjy9
09-29-2013, 09:01 PM
I don't want Schaub hurt so much as I went him on the bench or off the team at this point. Since Kubiak is not going to play another QB unless Schaub IS HURT, then I will take him getting hurt if that is what it will take. Eff Schaub...

PockyAF
09-29-2013, 09:03 PM
hoping for divine intervention for immediate change

vs.

being shackled by blind faith with a hopeless QB for at minimum 1 and a 1/2 year longer... wasting not only our team's age, but the fans as well

hmmmmmmmmmmm

hradhak
09-29-2013, 09:06 PM
Honestly I don't think Schaub would be in the league at this point in his career if it werent' for Kubiak. Kubiak has made an average QB look at times like a top 15 QB. I don't think he'd be doing that for too many other coaches.

That said, Schaub is showing his ceiling and it is happening not against the Jaguars' of the league but the playoff bound teams. Schaub has done well, but I think his best days are behind him. We need to be looking elsewhere.

That said, I don't wish any harm to the guy. He needs to at the least get benched when he makes big mistakes and put someone else in.

DocBar
09-29-2013, 09:21 PM
Schaub's already been playing injured.........evidently, just not enough for stubborn Kubiak to admit it and go to another option.Do you still think it from the Lis Franc injury? I've been watching him pretty closely and he's throwing off his back foot a lot. You think it's due to not being able to comfortably bend his right foot and step into the throw?

gary
09-29-2013, 09:45 PM
I don't want Schaub hurt so much as I went him on the bench or off the team at this point. Since Kubiak is not going to play another QB unless Schaub IS HURT, then I will take him getting hurt if that is what it will take. Eff Schaub...Mature post this is.

CloakNNNdagger
09-29-2013, 09:50 PM
Do you still think it from the Lis Franc injury? I've been watching him pretty closely and he's throwing off his back foot a lot. You think it's due to not being able to comfortably bend his right foot and step into the throw?

I've been trying to point that out all along. For those that have thrown out that he could also have a mysterious shoulder injury causing his weak and aberrant throws.......that makes no sense......If a QB has a shoulder or arm problem, he will try to push off that back foot that much harder to compensate for his weakened throws. Schaub threw off of his back foot the entire end of last season and, after a rest in the offseason/preseason, has quickly eased into throwing off his back foot more and more each game. Today, he almost "lived" on his back foot. Yes, having taken care of quite a few surgically-repaired Lisfranc injuries, I have no doubt that the Lisfranc is haunting him.:tiphat:

msbbc833
09-29-2013, 09:59 PM
I've been trying to point that out all along. For those that have thrown out that he could also have a mysterious shoulder injury causing his weak and aberrant throws.......that makes no sense......If a QB has a shoulder or arm problem, he will try to push off that back foot that much harder to compensate for his weakened throws. Schaub threw off of his back foot the entire end of last season and, after a rest in the offseason/preseason, has quickly eased into throwing off his back foot more and more each game. Today, he almost "lived" on his back foot. Yes, having taken care of quite a few surgically-repaired Lisfranc injuries, I have no doubt that the Lisfranc is haunting him.:tiphat:

That bone should have been healed by now. If it is currently causing him trouble, is it soft tissue damage or is there actual re-injury to the bone? If he is putting more weight on his back leg on his throws this could very well explain his latest inaccuracies dating back to late last season...

gary
09-29-2013, 10:07 PM
If Matt is playing hurt or is playing this way because that is who he is then he should sit but the blame is on Gary. Fans know that.

CloakNNNdagger
09-29-2013, 10:09 PM
That bone should have been healed by now. If it is currently causing him trouble, is it soft tissue damage or is there actual re-injury to the bone? If he is putting more weight on his back leg on his throws this could very well explain his latest inaccuracies dating back to late last season...

The bone can and probably is well-healed. Chronic arthritis is not unusual following this injury. And post repair chronic pain and stiffness are both extremely common in Lisfranc fractures.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 10:32 PM
Today, he almost "lived" on his back foot.

& he practically carved up the best secondary in the league like a Thanksgiving Day Turducken.

DocBar
09-29-2013, 10:39 PM
& he practically carved up the best secondary in the league like a Thanksgiving Day Turducken.Until they figured out how to pressure him. Then he was carved up like a Thanksgiving Turkey. Some teams make good half time adjustments. The Texans usually aren't that team when they have a half time lead.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 10:46 PM
Until they figured out how to pressure him. Then he was carved up like a Thanksgiving Turkey. Some teams make good half time adjustments. The Texans usually aren't that team when they have a half time lead.

That's not the point. If he threw for 300+ yards on a team that's only allowed 246 yards total through three games, off his backfoot that's pretty impressive. They allowed 9 points per game over the first three games, off his back foot, Schaub threw 2 TDs on them before the half.

I'm just not buying the foot being an excuse..... folding under pressure is damning enough.

Rey
09-29-2013, 10:46 PM
& he practically carved up the best secondary in the league like a Thanksgiving Day Turducken.

While also throwing 2 picks.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 10:52 PM
While also throwing 2 picks.

Well, they are the second best (now) defense in the league.

DocBar
09-29-2013, 10:53 PM
That's not the point. If he threw for 300+ yards on a team that's only allowed 246 yards total through three games, off his backfoot that's pretty impressive. They allowed 9 points per game over the first three games, off his back foot, Schaub threw 2 TDs on them before the half.

I'm just not buying the foot being an excuse..... folding under pressure is damning enough.As long as you're beginning to understand that Schaub is the sickness, it's all OK. It's not the stats, it's the score. Schaub is continually helping the other team's score. And hurting his own teams score.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 10:58 PM
As long as you're beginning to understand that Schaub is the sickness, it's all OK. It's not the stats, it's the score. Schaub is continually helping the other team's score. And hurting his own teams score.

I'm watching him in the first half again & he's doing everything we want him to do. He's stepping into his throws, fully turning his hips, putting all his weight on that front foot on almost every throw. There's a couple where he's backpedalling or trying to scramble where his feet aren't set, but he's getting good hip rotation on every throw.

The first INT, good rotation, all on his front foot.

I wonder if there's anything to be said about Owen Daniels being his target on three of the INTs I can think of. Both today, one last week.

SchaubApologist
09-29-2013, 11:07 PM
I'm watching him in the first half again & he's doing everything we want him to do. He's stepping into his throws, fully turning his hips, putting all his weight on that front foot on almost every throw. There's a couple where he's backpedalling or trying to scramble where his feet aren't set, but he's getting good hip rotation on every throw.

The first INT, good rotation, all on his front foot.

I wonder if there's anything to be said about Owen Daniels being his target on three of the INTs I can think of. Both today, one last week.

Go ahead and fast forward to the 2nd half....

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 11:17 PM
Go ahead and fast forward to the 2nd half....

I can't, my satellite dropped the signal.

Marcus
09-29-2013, 11:17 PM
That bone should have been healed by now. If it is currently causing him trouble, is it soft tissue damage or is there actual re-injury to the bone? If he is putting more weight on his back leg on his throws this could very well explain his latest inaccuracies dating back to late last season...

The LisFranc is not a bone. It's a ligament. And the doctor told me after he surgically reconstructed my Lisfranc injury, that it would heal, but it wouldn't be the same foot again. I've been watching him closely. As long as he can drop back and get set, he can throw accurately, but when he has to move . . .

But having said that, I don't think it's been all that different from before his LisFranc. He's not a mobile quarterback now, and he never has been one.

DocBar
09-29-2013, 11:18 PM
I'm watching him in the first half again & he's doing everything we want him to do. He's stepping into his throws, fully turning his hips, putting all his weight on that front foot on almost every throw. There's a couple where he's backpedalling or trying to scramble where his feet aren't set, but he's getting good hip rotation on every throw.

The first INT, good rotation, all on his front foot.

I wonder if there's anything to be said about Owen Daniels being his target on three of the INTs I can think of. Both today, one last week.I saw several backfoot throws in the 1st half. Every one one of them were with some kind of pressure, iirc. Interesting.

Schaub throwing INT's when targeting a particular receiver would lend credence to my opinion that Schaub misses wide open receivers while locking on to his security blankets.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 11:39 PM
I've been watching him closely. As long as he can drop back and get set, he can throw accurately, but when he has to move . . .


I'm going through now, watching every throw. I'm at the 1:03 mark in the third. This is pretty much what I've seen. When he's on the move it's like he doesn't even bother trying to set his feet. He's more apt to throw it with neither foot on the ground as he is to throw it off his back foot.

This is all I can see now. Lost my signal after this point, but Schaub looks healthy. There's got to be another reason for his poor play.

midway
09-29-2013, 11:42 PM
I'd be fine with some sort of completely non-painful non-harmful injury, like a sprained earlobe or something. ANything that will get him off the field.

CloakNNNdagger
09-30-2013, 06:33 AM
I'm going through now, watching every throw. I'm at the 1:03 mark in the third. This is pretty much what I've seen. When he's on the move it's like he doesn't even bother trying to set his feet. He's more apt to throw it with neither foot on the ground as he is to throw it off his back foot.

This is all I can see now. Lost my signal after this point, but Schaub looks healthy. There's got to be another reason for his poor play.

When he's moving, the reason he doesn't SET, is because he has to put even more stress on that foot just to go from moving to abruptly stopping and setting.

macho grande
09-30-2013, 07:08 AM
Yes

steelbtexan
09-30-2013, 07:18 AM
When he's moving, the reason he doesn't SET, is because he has to put even more stress on that foot just to go from moving to abruptly stopping and setting.

You're never going to convince TK.

Meanwhile, that's a pick 6 three games in a row.

This is Gary's team. he's to blame. It looks like Gary is going to let the ship sink with Schaub at the controls. (Really sad)

CloakNNNdagger
09-30-2013, 07:18 AM
The LisFranc is not a bone. It's a ligament. And the doctor told me after he surgically reconstructed my Lisfranc injury, that it would heal, but it wouldn't be the same foot again. I've been watching him closely. As long as he can drop back and get set, he can throw accurately, but when he has to move . . .

But having said that, I don't think it's been all that different from before his LisFranc. He's not a mobile quarterback now, and he never has been one.

Marcus, a while back, I made it a point to go back and watch games Schaub pre-Lisfranc. You did not see him throwing off of his back foot (please donít look for the isolated exception, because Iím sure someone can find it). You yourself have sustained a Lisfranc in the past, and have some pretty good understanding of its implications. However, the functional effect on a non-athlete vs. an athlete is very much different. You would better appreciate this difference if you made it a routine to jump up and down on the ball of your foot a couple of hours of each day. I would dare say that this would significantly negatively effect your daily routine functionality..........and more so over time. With prolonged rest (such as an offseason/preseason), athletic functionality to some extent can return. But with return again to the routine of continued stress being placed on the foot over a season, deterioration of the functionality as a rule is a given.

thunderkyss
09-30-2013, 07:34 AM
You're never going to convince TK.


I'm ready to be convinced, but what I'm seeing contradicts what he is saying. Schaub did not live off his back foot. He threw the ball 49 times yesterday (& there's a post of mine comparing Schaub to Romo, you don't want them throwing the ball 50 times) I counted 5 where he threw it off his back foot & an offensive lineman in his lap was just as likely to cause that than any pain he might have been feeling.

As far as not planting & setting his feet while he's on the move, yes it could be because of pain from the LisFranc, I think it's more likely that he's a clumsy bastid.. always has been, always will be.


Meanwhile, that's a pick 6 three games in a row.

This is Gary's team. he's to blame. It looks like Gary is going to let the ship sink with Schaub at the controls. (Really sad)

I've never played football at this level, but I've been part of many professional atmospheres & I know trying to assign blame is the way of a losing/unsuccessful organization.

So I'm not trying to assign blame on anyone, but...... Matt didn't throw that ball to Richard Sherman. He put it up in desperation to allow his guy to make a play. Sherman knocked OD out of the way to get the ball. Like I said, not trying to level blame, but I don't think it would be too much to ask our receivers to go after the ball & not just wait on it. Three or his interceptions have been to OD. Two of them he was beat to the ball by more physical players.

steelbtexan
09-30-2013, 07:37 AM
Marcus, a while back, I made it a point to go back and watch games Schaub pre-Lisfranc. You did not see him throwing off of his back foot (please donít look for the isolated exception, because Iím sure someone can find it). You yourself have sustained a Lisfranc in the past, and have some pretty good understanding of its implications. However, the functional effect on a non-athlete vs. an athlete is very much different. You would better appreciate this difference if you made it a routine to jump up and down on the ball of your foot a couple of hours of each day. I would dare say that this would significantly negatively effect your daily routine functionality..........and more so over time. With prolonged rest (such as an offseason/preseason), athletic functionality to some extent can return. But with return again to the routine of continued stress being placed on the foot over a season, deterioration of the functionality as a rule is a given.

So you say it aint going to get any better?

Marcus
09-30-2013, 11:03 AM
So you say it aint going to get any better?

There are different grades of LisFrancs, and different severities. Mine was particularly bad. 2 plates, 9 screws, which were never taken out, 2 fusions and bone graft. All of that adds up to permanent decrease in foot mobility. If Schaub had a LisFranc as bad as mine, he'd be done. Period.

Schaub made it back to training camp from his LisFranc, which I predicted would NOT happen. I was proven wrong, because I didn't know the details. Ryan Clady of the Broncos has been lost for the season because of a LisFranc, but if that's all they going to say about it, that doesn't tell me squat.

So, is this throwing his back foot due to lack of mobility from the LisFranc? I don't know. But wouldn't logic state that if it did, it would have shown up last season right after his injury? That would portend some kind of deterioration in his foot. Unless . . . He chose not to have fusions done, in order to keep playing. Who knows.

But if Kubiak decides to yank him, he'll dream up an injury, just like when he stashes players on reserve in training camp. But it would shock me to the core if he goes anywhere near that foot.

gary
09-30-2013, 02:23 PM
How about showing you are not pleased with action? Start by not attending or watching games if it is so bad.

ObsiWan
09-30-2013, 03:02 PM
You're never going to convince TK.

Meanwhile, that's a pick 6 three games in a row.

This is Gary's team. he's to blame. It looks like Gary is going to let the ship sink with Schaub at the controls. (Really sad)


It's worse than that. I got this off the Texans/Seahawk recap page; bottom left in the "Research Notes" section...

Today marked the 8th time since joining the Texans (in 2007) that Matt Schaub (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5615/matt-schaub) has thrown an interception with 3 minutes or less remaining in the 4th quarter. The previous 7 games did not go into overtime. The Texans are 0-8 in those games, with 6 of those games being determined by a TD or less.



http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmbss/2013/tmbss130928.gif (http://www.mycomicspage.com/bliss/2013/09/28/)

Porky
09-30-2013, 05:06 PM
How much does a hitman cost?

Oh, don't worry Schaub fans. This one is for Fat Albert.

Albert Haynesworth Is Proud of Hurting Matt Schaub (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/11/haynesworth_schaub.php)


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzaJSsUnS9x0pqU8sjHq8Z7kWaYv7AG GPjow7-xPdfO5f0j5Rc

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/albertdvd3.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
09-30-2013, 07:42 PM
So you say it aint going to get any better?


Marcus is absolutely correct. There are varying degrees of this injury. However, as compared to a non-athlete, it takes a much lesser Lisfranc to take down an athlete.

DocBar
09-30-2013, 08:11 PM
Marcus is absolutely correct. There are varying degrees of this injury. However, as compared to a non-athlete, it takes a much lesser Lisfranc to take down an athlete.I've never known anyone who has had a Lisfranc injury (surprised that it's named after a horseman and I've never seen one) but I've experienced the opposite in my journey. Injuries that would stop a normal person barely slow down a professional athlete. I've ridden bulls and broncs with broken bones and all kinds of sprained everything's. Duration of activity and pain tolerance comes into play there.

I guess the closest I can come to understanding the Lisfranc injury would be reconstructive shoulder surgery. That was pure hell and I never want to go through it again. I will never again ride anything that bucks or even do anything that might reinjure my shoulder ( including a lot of exercises that strengthen my shoulder) nor will I ever have needed surgery on my left shoulder unless the pain becomes intolerable(see the exercise comment earlier). If a lesser Lisfranc injury can make an NFL player not be able to perform, then it's a much worse injury than I thought. Duration of activity and pain tolerance comes into play there, as well.

handswarmer
10-01-2013, 08:12 AM
The LisFranc is not a bone. It's a ligament. And the doctor told me after he surgically reconstructed my Lisfranc injury, that it would heal, but it wouldn't be the same foot again. I've been watching him closely. As long as he can drop back and get set, he can throw accurately, but when he has to move . . .

But having said that, I don't think it's been all that different from before his LisFranc. He's not a mobile quarterback now, and he never has been one.

You cannot fracture a ligament. The Lisfranc Ligament is displaced when the foot is fractured

Lisfranc injury is a fracture of one of the metatarsal bones in your foot.

chicagotexan2
10-01-2013, 08:19 AM
I dont need to see Matt Schmuck get hurt. The closest I got to wishing him ill will was hoping he'd throw a pick six in OT to lose the SEA game and maybe that would get him benched. He threw the pick six in regulation and lost the game but this bumb haven;t been benched. He must have pics of Kubiak's frat day doing something with the farm animals.

But for sure Scmucks pee pee got hurt since he took down his twitter. Poor baby.

infantrycak
10-01-2013, 09:34 AM
You cannot fracture a ligament. The Lisfranc Ligament is displaced when the foot is fractured

Lisfranc injury is a fracture of one of the metatarsal bones in your foot.

A lisfranc injury can exist where the metatarsal is dislocated.

gary
10-01-2013, 11:41 AM
The mocking of Schaub does not do anything but show what type of fan you are. Which is not a good one IMO. I am sure Matt so called cost the team the game on purpose. Ask, what happened to scoring in the second half? GO MATT

infantrycak
10-01-2013, 12:01 PM
the mocking of schaub shows that we are great fans. a great fan is someone who is honest and tells it like it is. It shows passion. It shows that we care about our team and that we dont like what is going on.

A bad fan is someone who keeps on rooting for people who dont get the job done. That's how someone like Gary Kubiak and Matt Schaub can keep getting contract extensions.


You should live in north korea instead of america. Kim Jong Un would love your undying loyalty.

Did you bother to read the OP?

Hoping for a member of your team to get injured is not some form of admirable super fan.

HJam72
10-01-2013, 12:10 PM
Did you bother to read the OP?

Hoping for a member of your team to get injured is not some form of admirable super fan.

It's not? :boogereater:

JJ bled all over the field, so my sacrificial requirements for the loss were already met.

chicagotexan2
10-01-2013, 12:16 PM
The mocking of Schaub does not do anything but show what type of fan you are. Which is not a good one IMO. I am sure Matt so called cost the team the game on purpose. Ask, what happened to scoring in the second half? GO MATT


Perhaps you should follow FUn fair football if harsh criticism is something you can't handle. The criticism is warranted and mocking Matt schmuck is all part of being a fan just like being a homer is.

chicagotexan2
10-01-2013, 12:34 PM
http://blog.chron.com/foodchronicles/2013/09/calling-all-matts-taquerias-arandas-wants-to-give-you-a-free-burrito/?cmpid=hpts

While most of us don't want to see Matt schmuck get hurt taqueria arandas must want to at least try to give him food poisoning. Why else would they offer a free burrito to anyone named Matt? I guess it's not the same as seeing him get benched but if he has to stay on the potty that'll work too.

gary
10-01-2013, 12:34 PM
the mocking of schaub shows that we are great fans. a great fan is someone who is honest and tells it like it is. It shows passion. It shows that we care about our team and that we dont like what is going on.

A bad fan is someone who keeps on rooting for people who dont get the job done. That's how someone like Gary Kubiak and Matt Schaub can keep getting contract extensions.


You should live in north korea instead of america. Kim Jon Un would love your undying loyalty.The mocking is bad and out of hand this is a game in the end. A team loss not a Schaub loss in the books. Loyalty? No. Different approach? Yes.

thunderkyss
10-01-2013, 01:05 PM
A bad fan is someone who keeps on rooting for people who dont get the job done. That's how someone like Gary Kubiak and Matt Schaub can keep getting contract extensions.



Saying stuff like this... I really wonder how long you've been following this team. You're bringing in crap that we dealt with 4 years ago.

Even the most diehard friend of Kubiak was wanting him gone after 2010. This place was on fire when we heard about that contract.


What you're seeing now, is people coming to terms with what we've got to work with. If McNair was doing things the way we'd like,..... pssh

Vinny
10-01-2013, 01:36 PM
you don't have to be on board with any set of players or the coach or the WCO or Wade to be a "good fan". You can also be a sunshine pumper or a rabid hater of the status quo, and both be so called "good fans".

Marcus
10-01-2013, 01:38 PM
You cannot fracture a ligament. The Lisfranc Ligament is displaced when the foot is fractured

Lisfranc injury is a fracture of one of the metatarsal bones in your foot.

:gun:

htownfan32
10-01-2013, 01:41 PM
Kubes needs to realize that Schaub is the cinderblock dragging him to the bottom of the river and cut him loose. He has to understand that this season will, whether we want it or not, not cause him to lose his job. He might as well take a chance on one of the backups at this point, because the worst that could happen is that we keep losing and we're already losing at this point.

Yates and Keenum play with more grit than Schaub. I can't speak for Keenum but I remember Yates playing tall in the pocket. He looked more like a leader in that playoff clinching drive in Cincinnati than Schaub has ever looked in a long time.

CloakNNNdagger
10-01-2013, 03:29 PM
I've never known anyone who has had a Lisfranc injury (surprised that it's named after a horseman and I've never seen one) but I've experienced the opposite in my journey. Injuries that would stop a normal person barely slow down a professional athlete. I've ridden bulls and broncs with broken bones and all kinds of sprained everything's. Duration of activity and pain tolerance comes into play there.

I guess the closest I can come to understanding the Lisfranc injury would be reconstructive shoulder surgery. That was pure hell and I never want to go through it again. I will never again ride anything that bucks or even do anything that might reinjure my shoulder ( including a lot of exercises that strengthen my shoulder) nor will I ever have needed surgery on my left shoulder unless the pain becomes intolerable(see the exercise comment earlier). If a lesser Lisfranc injury can make an NFL player not be able to perform, then it's a much worse injury than I thought. Duration of activity and pain tolerance comes into play there, as well.

This is definitely true..........when you are discussing REHAB.........but NOT when you are discussing a DEGENERATIVE situation once rehab is successfully completed. In the latter situation, the athlete will be left much more negatively effected in the performance of carrying out his expected activities than a non-athlete.

Allegra
10-01-2013, 04:14 PM
I think you have to move to pull a hammy.
I should not laugh at that...I should not laugh at that...I should not laugh at that....

Aw, what the heck. I need a laugh after what I witnessed at Reliant Sunday. While dealing with that stomach crud that's going around and being unable to even have a couple of beers to dull the agony.

:ahhaha:

gary
10-01-2013, 09:08 PM
The Texans did not score in the second half I fail to see how Matt is fully to blame.

Playoffs
10-01-2013, 09:27 PM
The mocking of Schaub does not do anything but show what type of fan you are. Which is not a good one IMO. I am sure Matt so called cost the team the game on purpose. Ask, what happened to scoring in the second half? GO MATTI'm with Gary on this. Go listen to Tim Hasselbeck talk about that play call & formation. When the "best" outcome of a critical play call is taking a sack, the OC failed the team. And about AJ dropping that pass & Nuk blowing the fake & KJ's penalty.

Even the most diehard friend of Kubiak was wanting him gone after 2010. This place was on fire when we heard about that contract...Not everyone, TK. http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc366/PlagueEleven/Smileys/no.gif

gary
10-02-2013, 01:04 PM
What does calling names and burning a jersey do? That is your choice but to me it shows that I wasted money and it may make things worse for said player.

Blake
10-02-2013, 01:54 PM
Really??? Are people really posting threads with titles that just say Really???

gary
10-02-2013, 02:18 PM
Really??? Are people really posting threads with titles that just say Really???You don't have to read it.

Blake
10-02-2013, 02:21 PM
You don't have to read it.

To figure out what the **** the thread is about, yes I do. Its not that hard to put a title that actually tells us what the thread is about.

gary
10-02-2013, 02:37 PM
To figure out what the **** the thread is about, yes I do. Its not that hard to put a title that actually tells us what the thread is about.There are not rules about it but next I will do that. Some get way too bent out of shape over things instead of asking on the MB. Oh well, goes with the thread subject I guess. I see your point sorry.

CloakNNNdagger
10-02-2013, 02:40 PM
You don't have to read it.

Gary, I'm sure what Blake is referring to is that when you post such a nondescript thread title, there is no hint as to what the subject may be about, or what the contents may hold. It also makes it virtually impossible to use it in the forum search to retrieve any relevant material.

Thorn
10-02-2013, 02:42 PM
To figure out what the **** the thread is about, yes I do. Its not that hard to put a title that actually tells us what the thread is about.

If you're this upset over a thread title you've got more issues than just getting Schaubed.

rolyat93
10-02-2013, 02:44 PM
The Texans did not score in the second half I fail to see how Matt is fully to blame.

Because Matt was the only Texan to score points for the other team.:toropalm:

htownfan32
10-02-2013, 03:11 PM
To figure out what the **** the thread is about, yes I do. Its not that hard to put a title that actually tells us what the thread is about.

Did it really hurt that much to click the mouse?

2012Champs
10-02-2013, 03:14 PM
Because Matt was the only Texan to score points for the other team.:toropalm:


I guess you dont count Tate's fumble that gave the hawks 3?

gary
10-02-2013, 03:23 PM
I guess you dont count Tate's fumble that gave the hawks 3?Word.

Exascor
10-02-2013, 03:29 PM
Did it really hurt that much to click the mouse? This isn't addressed to me but... I don't have time to click on every single post. Gary actually has a great point but with this title it REQUIRES a click just to see what it's about. Glad I clicked but a better title would have made it a "must read" instead of a "wonder what this is about".

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...err thread.

chenjy9
10-02-2013, 05:18 PM
I am not saying that Tate is without blame, but to consider Schaub's failures equal to Tate's is stupidity in my eyes.

1. Tate is a backup and a third year vet. Schaub is a 10 year vet, a starting QB, and getting paid a crap ton more money than him and Tate are ever worth combined. Schaub should NOT be making the mistakes he makes anymore. Tate I expect to make young player mistakes every now and then.

2. Schaub was lucky as hell he ended the game with just a single pick six. 2 other of his throws under pressure could have easily been pick 6's as well. The other thing is, with Schaub this is a trend extending back how many games now (not just pick 6's but INT's as well)?

3. People wanting Schaub's head on a pike is not just because of this game or even this season. People have been wanting this guy's head for a while now and for good reason; we can't beat good teams with him.

This is just my 2 cents. I personally hate the fact that Schaub is still on our team. I would LOVE for him to get benched or if it has to come down to it, get hurt so we can play someone else. Will they be better? Who knows. I honestly think they cannot realistically play anymore worse than the crap we seen from Schaub.

Seegara
10-02-2013, 07:30 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.
I don't really want him to get hurt, at least not something permanent, but I remember when we did the Jags a favor their coaches couldn't do when we took Gabbert out of their lineup. If somebody takes Schaub out of ours, they do the team a favor the coaches can't do.

gary
10-04-2013, 12:39 PM
I don't really want him to get hurt, at least not something permanent, but I remember when we did the Jags a favor their coaches couldn't do when we took Gabbert out of their lineup. If somebody takes Schaub out of ours, they do the team a favor the coaches can't do.Then the coaches should be evaluated.

TheMatrix31
10-04-2013, 12:42 PM
I don't live in Houston, but if this board is any indication of what Houston Texans fans are, this fanbase doesn't deserve a winner. We deserve the Browns. We deserve the Raiders. We deserve the Bills.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 12:51 PM
I don't live in Houston, but if this board is any indication of what Houston Texans fans are, this fanbase doesn't deserve a winner. We deserve the Browns. We deserve the Raiders. We deserve the Bills.

Rep to you bro!

badboy
10-04-2013, 12:58 PM
This isn't addressed to me but... I don't have time to click on every single post. Gary actually has a great point but with this title it REQUIRES a click just to see what it's about. Glad I clicked but a better title would have made it a "must read" instead of a "wonder what this is about".

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...err thread.To save you time and extra wear on index finger which could be used for scratching and digging, you can simply allow cursor to hover on thread topic and see what it says without the "click".

Exascor
10-04-2013, 01:12 PM
To save you time and extra wear on index finger which could be used for scratching and digging, you can simply allow cursor to hover on thread topic and see what it says without the "click".
Or...maybe I access these forums by cell phone, use Tapatalk and it has no "hover on thread topic" available. It also takes minutes to load new threads sometimes due to crappy cell service at work. Strange that different people might have different situations huh?

thunderkyss
10-04-2013, 01:18 PM
I don't live in Houston, but if this board is any indication of what Houston Texans fans are, this fanbase doesn't deserve a winner. We deserve the Browns. We deserve the Raiders. We deserve the Bills.

It's Kubiak's own fault. No one would be mad at the Texans for not winning the Super Bowl if he didn't build a team capable of winning the Super Bowl.

We could be the Browns, throwing a parade for a 3 game win streak.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 01:58 PM
It's Kubiak's own fault. No one would be mad at the Texans for not winning the Super Bowl if he didn't build a team capable of winning the Super Bowl.

We could be the Browns, throwing a parade for a 3 game win streak.

So wait... even the bad fans are Kubiak's fault? I hope you were kidding and I missed the sarcasm.

Playoffs
10-04-2013, 02:06 PM
Agree.
ďI feel terrible for Matt Schaub,Ē she said. ďHe knows he made a bad decision under pressure and is sick about it. To see that fans were burning his jersey, to me, thatís disgraceful. Itís despicable. Itís not what sports is supposed to be about, and itís one of the most disgusting things Iíve seen in a long time.Ē

It should be interesting, then, to see if the topic comes up Sunday night and what the flow of discussion will be among Tafoya, Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth.http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2013/10/texans-49ers-prompts-nostalgia-for-nbcs-tafoya-says-schaub-hatred-is-despicable/

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 02:15 PM
Agree.
http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2013/10/texans-49ers-prompts-nostalgia-for-nbcs-tafoya-says-schaub-hatred-is-despicable/

Agree also... disgraceful.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-04-2013, 02:23 PM
Did Michelle Tafoya not hear about the Dodgers fan that got stabbed by the Giants fan recently? THAT is disgusting, not a few dumb fans burning jerseys.

Trap_Star
10-04-2013, 02:37 PM
Disgraceful? Lol you people, if they paid for the jersey they can do whatever they want with it as long as it doesn't cause damage to anyone/anything. Damage to Schaub's ego doesn't count.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 02:47 PM
Disgraceful? Lol you people, if they paid for the jersey they can do whatever they want with it as long as it doesn't cause damage to anyone/anything. Damage to Schaub's ego doesn't count.

Ok, so then it is fine for people to burn the American flag then right? Or the Texas flag? That is all good with you and is not disrespectful, despicable, and disgraceful?

No Schaub's jersey is not comparable to those two flags, but what it demonstrates is that it does do damage. To the Texans fan base who cannot take a loss without acting like children when they don't get their way. Like Schaub said. He couldn't care less. That his goal was to play so well that the guy buys another jersey, only this time to wear, not burn.

As far as I am concerned if you burn my clubs colors for any reason. You are not worthy of being in the club!

Trap_Star
10-04-2013, 03:00 PM
Ok, so then it is fine for people to burn the American flag then right? Or the Texas flag? That is all good with you and is not disrespectful, despicable, and disgraceful?

No Schaub's jersey is not comparable to those two flags, but what it demonstrates is that it does do damage. To the Texans fan base who cannot take a loss without acting like children when they don't get their way. Like Schaub said. He couldn't care less. That his goal was to play so well that the guy buys another jersey, only this time to wear, not burn.

As far as I am concerned if you burn my clubs colors for any reason. You are not worthy of being in the club!

This week's injury report:

Duane Brown (Toe) - Probable
Brandon Brooks (Toe) - Out
Brian Cushing (Concussion) - Probable
Matt Schaub and his fans (Feelings) - Doubtful

htownfan32
10-04-2013, 03:01 PM
Or...maybe I access these forums by cell phone, use Tapatalk and it has no "hover on thread topic" available. It also takes minutes to load new threads sometimes due to crappy cell service at work. Strange that different people might have different situations huh?

I understand your point, but at the end of the day it's a very minor point and unless the time in which it took someone to load the thread could have been better used to save the world, it wasn't time that was very dearly missed, I should think.

The thread title should have been more informative, I agree, but it's certainly nothing to get upset about (which you didn't, but I wasn't addressing you to begin with).

chicagotexan2
10-04-2013, 03:02 PM
Ok, so then it is fine for people to burn the American flag then right? Or the Texas flag? That is all good with you and is not disrespectful, despicable, and disgraceful?

No Schaub's jersey is not comparable to those two flags, but what it demonstrates is that it does do damage. To the Texans fan base who cannot take a loss without acting like children when they don't get their way. Like Schaub said. He couldn't care less. That his goal was to play so well that the guy buys another jersey, only this time to wear, not burn.

As far as I am concerned if you burn my clubs colors for any reason. You are not worthy of being in the club!

Give me a phu**ing break. A fan burning a players jersey is no different than burning ones season tickets. They paid for it and therefore they can do with it as they choose. What pisses me off are fans that think that any harsh criticism if a player or team means they are not 'true' fans.

And as for burning an American flag yes I think it's distespectful but it is a firm of free speech. Do bimbos doing keg stands while Wearing an American flag bikini offend you too. Tough it's also a form of free speech.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 03:03 PM
This week's injury report:

Duane Brown (Toe) - Probable
Brandon Brooks (Toe) - Out
Brian Cushing (Concussion) - Probable
Matt Schaub and his fans (Feelings) - Doubtful

Hahahaha pretty good, but not really any substance there. Who's feelings are really hurt anyway? I suggest it is not Schaub fans. We are just defending him from the cry baby fair weather fans who blame everything on Schaub.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 03:14 PM
Give me a phu**ing break. A fan burning a players jersey is no different than burning ones season tickets. They paid for it and therefore they can do with it as they choose. What pisses me off are fans that think that any harsh criticism if a player or team means they are not 'true' fans.

And as for burning an American flag yes I think it's distespectful but it is a firm of free speech. Do bimbos doing keg stands while Wearing an American flag bikini offend you too. Tough it's also a form of free speech.

First of all how can you compare an American Flag Bikini which shows respect and pride to burning an American flag? Apples and oranges there dude. I think I would be ok with someone burning their season tickets because it does not blame it all on one player, but rather the whole team. But this singling out Schaub stuff is ridiculous.

You get pissed off because deep down you know they are right, and you are not a true fan. And what has been going on since the loss to the Hawks is allot worse than just some harsh criticism, so do not give me that bovine excrement. The fact that Schaub needed two police officers to escort him to the post game interview means it is allot worse than harsh criticism. People like that are the cry babies who can't take some criticism of their fanhood. You are the one touting free speech, as long it is not about whether you are a true fan or not right? #Hypocrite

Trap_Star
10-04-2013, 03:33 PM
Comrade Nitrofish is right, we must crush the Texans/Schaub non-believers! Unity comrades, unity.
Let's come together and sing in appreciation of Kubiak and Schaub, our all knowing leaders. (http://youtu.be/x72w_69yS1A)

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 03:38 PM
Comrade Nitrofish is right, we must crush the Texans/Schaub non-believers! Unity comrades, unity.
Let's come together and sing in appreciation of Kubiak and Schaub, our all knowing leaders. (http://youtu.be/x72w_69yS1A)

Everyone knows... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

Trap_Star
10-04-2013, 03:44 PM
How could you, comrade? My tears will burn me more than a Schaub jersey in a parking lot.


:(

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 03:45 PM
How could you, comrade? My tears will burn me more than a Schaub jersey in a parking lot.


:(

LOL... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 03:49 PM
How could you, comrade? My tears will burn me more than a Schaub jersey in a parking lot.


:(

You cryin' boy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpsfaYvm_W4

LOL

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-04-2013, 06:11 PM
I love how someone with a join date in 2011 is calling other people bandwagon fans lol.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 06:20 PM
I love how someone with a join date in 2011 is calling other people bandwagon fans lol.

Hahahahaha. I love how bandwagon fans think only real Texans fans belong to message boards. Be careful getting down from your high horse dude. Don't trip over your join date, or your post count. LOL

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-04-2013, 06:27 PM
LOL and how am I a bandwagon fan again? Because I don't give a **** if some idiot wants to burn their Schaub jersey? Doesn't hurt me or my pocketbook any. Is the team going to suffer because of it? Will it have any impact on the Texans peformance going forward? I think it's you that needs to get off your high horse.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 06:54 PM
LOL and how am I a bandwagon fan again? Because I don't give a **** if some idiot wants to burn their Schaub jersey? Doesn't hurt me or my pocketbook any. Is the team going to suffer because of it? Will it have any impact on the Texans peformance going forward? I think it's you that needs to get off your high horse.

You are the one identifying yourself as being a band wagon fan. I never called you one. It was you who came in posting how someone with a join date of 2011 must be a band wagon fan because your join date was sooner as if somehow you are a real super fan because you have been posting here since 2004.

Of course you think it is me who needs to get off my high horse, because I am disagreeing with you, and people like you, so of course I am the bad guy. Not the popular guy while you all gather your pitch forks and torches to mob that horrible QB Schaub while I point out how wrong you are to be blaming one guy for a loss.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-04-2013, 07:05 PM
Pretty sure you were the one calling people fair weather fans and not true Texans fans. I just found it ironic that someone who only started posting here when the Texans were enjoying success would call out anyone's fandom. And where in this thread or any other on this board have you seen me "blame one guy for a loss." So yes, you need to get off your high horse.

Nitrofish
10-04-2013, 07:22 PM
Pretty sure you were the one calling people fair weather fans and not true Texans fans. I just found it ironic that someone who only started posting here when the Texans were enjoying success would call out anyone's fandom. And where in this thread or any other on this board have you seen me "blame one guy for a loss." So yes, you need to get off your high horse.

Oh I got the meaning of your post. I knew what it meant. And IMO it reveals allot about you as a person.

2012Champs
10-04-2013, 07:31 PM
Pretty sure you were the one calling people fair weather fans and not true Texans fans. I just found it ironic that someone who only started posting here when the Texans were enjoying success would call out anyone's fandom. And where in this thread or any other on this board have you seen me "blame one guy for a loss." So yes, you need to get off your high horse.


When someone signed up here really doesn't mean squat.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-04-2013, 07:33 PM
You know nothing about me, but from reading your posts, you are used to throwing out judgements on others so I guess this is just clockwork for you.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-04-2013, 07:35 PM
When someone signed up here really doesn't mean squat.


It has some merit when you have someone on the board questioning other's fandom and loyalty to the team. Fan's being unhappy with Matt Schaub and venting doesn't make them bandwagon fans or not true fans. Would you agree?

Texan_Bill
10-04-2013, 07:36 PM
:facepalm:

It's no wonder why I'm not nearly as active on the boards as I used to be...



Sad!

2012Champs
10-04-2013, 07:54 PM
It has some merit when you have someone on the board questioning other's fandom and loyalty to the team. Fan's being unhappy with Matt Schaub and venting doesn't make them bandwagon fans or not true fans. Would you agree?



Simply being unhappy or venting about Schaub ? Nah

chicagotexan2
10-04-2013, 08:04 PM
First of all how can you compare an American Flag Bikini which shows respect and pride to burning an American flag? Apples and oranges there dude. I think I would be ok with someone burning their season tickets because it does not blame it all on one player, but rather the whole team. But this singling out Schaub stuff is ridiculous.

You get pissed off because deep down you know they are right, and you are not a true fan. And what has been going on since the loss to the Hawks is allot worse than just some harsh criticism, so do not give me that bovine excrement. The fact that Schaub needed two police officers to escort him to the post game interview means it is allot worse than harsh criticism. People like that are the cry babies who can't take some criticism of their fanhood. You are the one touting free speech, as long it is not about whether you are a true fan or not right? #Hypocrite


I'm not blaming everything on Schaub and I think people threatening violence against him are ignorant fools. But up until the last game I thought he could get the job done and obviously I was wrong. Schaub makes very bad decisions and the very worst moments way too often. He is inconsistent. But you are right I must not be a true fan like you are since the back of your Schaub jersey says #1 Schaub fan. Make sure your tv isn't running games from 2010 because what people see right now is a QB that is a terrible decision maker. Unless your 10 years old if be embarrassed if I truly believed that anyone who criticizes Schaub is not a fan of the team. I endured Carr ragone rosenfels and ill endure Schaub. I hope he can get his head out of his @$$ and play well instead of screwing up but I doubt it. If he does ill be happy to say I was wrong about him. But you keep bouncing your Pom poms and wearing your knee high red boots and worship your boy Schaub, ill just keep hoping the team plays well inspite of him.
#schaubtattooonmybuttcheek
#mattcanisniffyourjockstrap
#picksixesarenobigdeal
#pyongyangtexans

ObsiWan
10-04-2013, 08:05 PM
All this name calling is silly and rather juvenile. We're ALL Texans fans (except for the odd guest) or we would be doing something different with our time.

Because I don't see things the way other fans see them doesn't make them lesser fans, just fans with a different outlook.

This my way or the highway attitude reminds me of Congress. Ugh...

Texan_Bill
10-04-2013, 08:13 PM
All this name calling is silly and rather juvenile. We're ALL Texans fans (except for the odd guest) or we would be doing something different with our time.

Because I don't see things the way other fans see them doesn't make them lesser fans, just fans with a different outlook.

This my way or the highway attitude reminds me of Congress. Ugh...

Screw you, you old fart... Who's older, you or Thorn????!? :kitten:

chicagotexan2
10-04-2013, 08:17 PM
Screw you, you old fart... Who's older, you or Thorn????!? :kitten:

Speak louder sonny thorn can't hear too well. Just kidding thorn.

thunderkyss
10-04-2013, 08:30 PM
But up until the last game I thought he could get the job done and obviously I was wrong. Schaub makes very bad decisions and the very worst moments way too often. He is inconsistent.

I've been saying for years Schaub is a better QB than Flacco in the regular season. Flacco's biggest issue is that he's so inconsistent, traditionally more inconsistent than Matt.

That was until this year. They've both been consistently bad, with flashes of greatness.

In Matt's defense, he's been playing some pretty good defenses. We've already played 3 of the top 6 pass rushes to date (according to MMBQ (http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/03/tamba-hali-rob-ninkovich-pressure/)) & SF is #4.

Our OL is ranked 28th. Schaub's going to have his work cut out for him.

gary
10-04-2013, 08:35 PM
Did Michelle Tafoya not hear about the Dodgers fan that got stabbed by the Giants fan recently? THAT is disgusting, not a few dumb fans burning jerseys.They both are bad although one is worse than the other. Games they are and the sun will still rise tomorrow. Seasons are more than one game. GO TEXANS

chicagotexan2
10-04-2013, 08:40 PM
I've been saying for years Schaub is a better QB than Flacco in the regular season. Flacco's biggest issue is that he's so inconsistent, traditionally more inconsistent than Matt.

That was until this year. They've both been consistently bad, with flashes of greatness.

In Matt's defense, he's been playing some pretty good defenses. We've already played 3 of the top 6 pass rushes to date (according to MMBQ (http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/03/tamba-hali-rob-ninkovich-pressure/)) & SF is #4.

Our OL is ranked 28th. Schaub's going to have his work cut out for him.


All good points. Like I said its not all on him but some of his play is terrible. That is what is frustrating about him, against SD he was awesome aside from the interception at his own end zone and the first half against Seattle he was great until he screwed the pooch.

76Texan
10-04-2013, 09:00 PM
I've been saying for years Schaub is a better QB than Flacco in the regular season. Flacco's biggest issue is that he's so inconsistent, traditionally more inconsistent than Matt.

That was until this year. They've both been consistently bad, with flashes of greatness.

In Matt's defense, he's been playing some pretty good defenses. We've already played 3 of the top 6 pass rushes to date (according to MMBQ (http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/03/tamba-hali-rob-ninkovich-pressure/)) & SF is #4.

Our OL is ranked 28th. Schaub's going to have his work cut out for him.
I don't know how they count the pressure.
It looks to me like they simply add all the pressures and put it against the O-line. We don't know if they include the pressures allowed by the TEs and RBs.
We don't know if they count free blitzers that the QB himself has to account for (like those on naked bootlegs).
Also, some of these pressure might be the result of the QB running into them rather than allowed by the blockers.

I think it would have been better if they just call it something like "Pressure against".

drs23
10-06-2013, 02:56 PM
Give me a phu**ing break. A fan burning a players jersey is no different than burning ones season tickets. They paid for it and therefore they can do with it as they choose. What pisses me off are fans that think that any harsh criticism if a player or team means they are not 'true' fans.

And as for burning an American flag yes I think it's distespectful but it is a firm of free speech. Do bimbos doing keg stands while Wearing an American flag bikini offend you too. Tough it's also a form of free speech.

The whole bikini? Just half? I'll need pictures to render a cognitive response. :D

drs23
10-06-2013, 03:04 PM
First of all how can you compare an American Flag Bikini which shows respect and pride to burning an American flag? Apples and oranges there dude. I think I would be ok with someone burning their season tickets because it does not blame it all on one player, but rather the whole team. But this singling out Schaub stuff is ridiculous.

You get pissed off because deep down you know they are right, and you are not a true fan. And what has been going on since the loss to the Hawks is allot worse than just some harsh criticism, so do not give me that bovine excrement. The fact that Schaub needed two police officers to escort him to the post game interview means it is allot worse than harsh criticism. People like that are the cry babies who can't take some criticism of their fanhood. You are the one touting free speech, as long it is not about whether you are a true fan or not right? #Hypocrite

I've read this on several occasions and something to me doesn't add up except perhaps for dramatics which they certainly had had enough of already. After game pressers aren't held in the parking lot. They're in a dadgum secured building. At least it should be secure since I've got to go through everything short of a finger-wave to get through the turnstiles.

So legit question. Why the police escort?

chicagotexan2
10-06-2013, 05:06 PM
I've read this on several occasions and something to me doesn't add up except perhaps for dramatics which they certainly had had enough of already. After game pressers aren't held in the parking lot. They're in a dadgum secured building. At least it should be secure since I've got to go through everything short of a finger-wave to get through the turnstiles.

So legit question. Why the police escort?

Obviously so his super fans wouldn't try to lay a big wet kiss on him to try to boost his fragile spirit.

CloakNNNdagger
10-06-2013, 06:11 PM
I've read this on several occasions and something to me doesn't add up except perhaps for dramatics which they certainly had had enough of already. After game pressers aren't held in the parking lot. They're in a dadgum secured building. At least it should be secure since I've got to go through everything short of a finger-wave to get through the turnstiles.

So legit question. Why the police escort?

These are the only reports (http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/09-30-13-why-not-case-keenum-gary-kubiak-must-go-bold-to-save-texans-season-bench-matt-schaub/) that I've seen that brings it up.

Renaud L. Notaro @RenKnowItAll
Matt Schaub will need a police escort getting out of Reliant today. #NFL [Notaro is a Denver sports talk host]

Matt Schaub gets a police escort to the interview room. He's the only Houston Texan who will be put on the dais this lost afternoon. He'll go there flanked by the Texans favorite cop ó the guy who brings head coach Gary Kubiak to the interview room after every home game ó and the team's senior director of communications Kevin Cooper.

You don't know if the first source is just making a sarcastic comment. And the second one speaks to one cop, that usually accompanies Kubiak routinely. So I'm not thinking that Schaub's under anymore of a threat than the verbal attacks that he receive in stadium while he was playing so well.

drs23
10-06-2013, 09:01 PM
These are the only reports (http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/09-30-13-why-not-case-keenum-gary-kubiak-must-go-bold-to-save-texans-season-bench-matt-schaub/) that I've seen that brings it up.

[Notaro is a Denver sports talk host]



You don't know if the first source is just making a sarcastic comment. And the second one speaks to one cop, that usually accompanies Kubiak routinely. So I'm not thinking that Schaub's under anymore of a threat than the verbal attacks that he receive in stadium while he was playing so well.

Thanks. That makes much more sense.

midway
10-06-2013, 09:10 PM
I'd be happy if he got something like a sprained appendix. He never recovered from his injury but he's too selfish to admit it and has cost the team a lot over the last year and a half.

TexansFight
10-06-2013, 09:28 PM
Are people really hoping Matt goes down? Unreal, grow up. It is a game. Make a change coach but fans should not wish for an injury.

I am totally rooting for an injury at this point. Kubiak is too stubborn and stupid to make a change that's necessary.

edwardc5637
10-06-2013, 09:55 PM
Poor defense those guys have to be tired .

LonerATO
10-06-2013, 09:58 PM
Poor defense those guys have to be tired .

Helps keep them in shape.

gary
10-06-2013, 10:12 PM
You would not walk the walk a want an injury at your job.

welsh texan
10-07-2013, 06:47 AM
Honestly don't want the guy to get hurt but his career should have been over 7 days ago and I don't see how the hell we've got a shot at achieving this seasons goals now, and it's down to his play.

People don't really want him to get hurt here Gary, they are just expressing their frustration at the fact the Kubiak refuses to man up and move on for the good of the team.

I don't agree with Kubiaks "it's on me" line. It isn't him stinking it up out there. It's his QB, and I don't think he had the reason to change QB until Schaub went full kamikaze on his career this season.

If he continues to take that line to the detriment of the team, he surely has to be in the firing line himself. Make the hard choice, you've got something worse than a QB controversy on your hands here, it not a controversy it a clear ineptitude staring you straight in the face.

Find out what you've got on TJ Yates, let Keenum finish out some games whether ahead or behind, suss out how the depth chart looks going forward, and in the likely event that neither is the answer, draft in the offseason ad have experience sat behind.

It's pretty obvious to me, shame kubes can't give up on his guy.

McNair allowed the "it's on me" line to pull kubes through after 2010, I really hope it isn't allowed again.

PapaL
10-07-2013, 07:11 AM
So...what's being burned this week? Besides, of course, our belief in this team.