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tedr
09-22-2013, 03:14 PM
Man, they aren't even competing- Schaub has that deer in the headlights look

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:14 PM
Welll.... another COmeback ..?????? LOL

Texanmike02
09-22-2013, 03:15 PM
Speaking as someone who played the spot for years...that was interference. You have to play the ball. If you do not get your head around then you risk an interference. So yeah...that was interference. He never bothered getting his head around.

That was interference. But the first call was a joke. KJ had position and saw the ball. Combine that with KJ knocking the ball lose on that play that was reviewed and KJ is playing like a good CB.

Joseph and McCain are the problem on defense. I'm not sure what happened to JJo but he has looked like trash the last 2 years. McCain got a contract and decided to coast.

The problem with that is this is a passing league now. Our CBs need to step up.

Mike

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:15 PM
I could really go for a pick 6 here.

cstyle42
09-22-2013, 03:15 PM
Schaub had nothing to do with the defense getting taken out to the woodshed just now....

Schaubs pick killed it bottom line. The offense repeatedly puts pressure on the d when will you people understand the issue with this team?

TexanSam
09-22-2013, 03:15 PM
I think this is one of those games where things just don't go right for our team. We've started slow in all 3 games and someone finally took advantage. Hopefully this gets us out of our funk.

Texanmike02
09-22-2013, 03:16 PM
We need a sack fumble.

Mike

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 03:16 PM
Leach!

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 03:16 PM
And it's another Houston.......penalty!

Very sloppy today.

HTown2ATX
09-22-2013, 03:17 PM
This game is a joke. The only redeeming quality right now is hopefully the sunshine pumpers and non pumpers start going at it. I love that.

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:17 PM
Flacco even making passes with his eyes closed!!! (on that slomo replay).

Maybe Matt needs to try that.

Jottoz
09-22-2013, 03:17 PM
My God DO NOT hit the QB EVER!!!

Do NOT plant your face mask in his chest!!!

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:17 PM
Imagine that- another flag

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:18 PM
I could really go for a pick 6 here.

I could go for a flag NOT against the txns:wadepalm:

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:18 PM
My God DO NOT hit the QB EVER!!!

Do NOT plant your face mask in his chest!!!

square in the chin- good call. not even close

TdotTexas2Step
09-22-2013, 03:19 PM
Absolutely have to score 7 on this drive.

Wolf6151
09-22-2013, 03:19 PM
Excellent play by Mays

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:20 PM
THIS game aint over I granturee that !!!!! even if we lose we gonna make Dem ravens Earn dis **** and sweat believe that

RTP2110
09-22-2013, 03:20 PM
Gumbel calling the city "Baldimore" is getting really annoying.

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:21 PM
Someone tell me why our O can't score a quick TD to get bak in this thing - I mean"texans have to stick to what they do best and run" blah blah. We no longer run that good n e way. Let me guess long pass to a gimpy aj:wadepalm:

Texanmike02
09-22-2013, 03:21 PM
Even with all of this does anyone have the feeling that we still have a shot? Sit AJ (the Ravens know he's hurt too you know) and lets see what the youngsters (like Martin, Jean and Posey) can do. Dhop already showed he's ready to play WR 1.

Mike

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:22 PM
square in the chin- good call. not even close

So after the tackler has committed to the shoulder pad and the QB ducks it's the tackler's fault...

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:22 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAALLLL!!!! Oh, wait.

TdotTexas2Step
09-22-2013, 03:23 PM
Let's just not run the ball anymore.

Daravenator
09-22-2013, 03:23 PM
You guys are critical of the Texans play today. I feel your pain. The Ravens have less yardage rushing than a snail today. And all of it between the tackles. Ya think maybe they'd run a slant or something?

At least your run D is stout. Damned stout, I'd say. Rice out or not.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:23 PM
both d0lines came to play today

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 03:23 PM
So after the tackler has committed to the shoulder pad and the QB ducks it's the tackler's fault...

That's the rule, yes.

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2013, 03:23 PM
Newton is a slug. He looks like a statue out there half the time. I recall years ago talking to Vinny about OT's and how they come in two basic molds. Big and athletic or "Just big" Think "Frankenstein". That's what I see when I look at Newton. A big guy who is outmaneuvered easily by better athletes.

Newton is our bi.gger, blacker "Seth Wand". Somehow I'm not excited about that.


He's still favoring his repaired knee. He was brought back in the preseason (too soon) to gain reps before the regular season. He can't effectively rehab during the season.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:24 PM
So after the tackler has committed to the shoulder pad and the QB ducks it's the tackler's fault...

BS- that's not even close to what happened

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:25 PM
That's the rule, yes.

Then they need to go ahead and let the princesses wear their flags...

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:25 PM
I don't think that dumpoff has worked all game

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:26 PM
BS- that's not even close to what happened

Find and watch the replay...

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:26 PM
Yates...

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 03:27 PM
Then they need to go ahead and let the princesses wear their flags...

Whatever you say.

:wadepalm:

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:27 PM
So after the tackler has committed to the shoulder pad and the QB ducks it's the tackler's fault...

Flacco didn't duck... he did close his eyes on the pass though. You're thinking of HWSNBM

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:27 PM
Find and watch the replay...

I did- I'll put up a picture after the game.

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:27 PM
so whats up with AJ is he nicked up are they sittiing HIM ..??????

Texanmike02
09-22-2013, 03:27 PM
I want to see more 4 wide sets. The Ravens do not have the corners to match up with Hopkins, Jean, Posey and Martin all on the field. Force them to defend those 4 and deal with OD/AF. This 3 yards and a cloud of dust running game isn't going to get you back into the game. It is time to impose your will on the defense.

Mike

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 03:28 PM
I don't think that dumpoff has worked all game

That's why they keep doing it. They figure that it has to work eventually.

:wadepalm:

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:28 PM
A team can't survive when 2/3 of the team can't get it together, and our special teams and Schaub are stinking it up completely. And the obvious soft spots in our defense need to be stiffened. Setting up for a long season if they don't act.

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:28 PM
We gotta stay balanced Running game is important to esp if they break out a 20 or 15 runs

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:29 PM
0-8 on third down now....u-g-l-y


Texans have had better field position all day but cant get their o going...

Wolf6151
09-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Another beautiful punt by Lechler.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:30 PM
It hurts to watch this. They can be so much better than this.

gafftop
09-22-2013, 03:30 PM
What is the record for consecutive pick 6 thrown by a QB in games? Schaub is at 3 and counting. I would guess he is the most experienced to do it.

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:30 PM
we cant keep putting our selfs in these deep holes win or lose we cat palay this way next week

cstyle42
09-22-2013, 03:30 PM
0-8 on third down now....u-g-l-y


Texans have had better field position all day but cant get their o going...

Kubiak and Schaub

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Ed Reed sighting...

FirstTexansFan
09-22-2013, 03:32 PM
It's going to take a miracle.... Do you believe in miracles? ;)

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:32 PM
who are the jags playing dis week and are the titans losing

that's the only thing that can help all the AFC south losing LOL

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:32 PM
Kubiak and Schaub

Pretty much- wonder if KKubiak or Schaub could survive if the other was fired?

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:33 PM
Cushing...ha

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:34 PM
I did- I'll put up a picture after the game.

Pic? How about a video?

AMartin56
09-22-2013, 03:35 PM
Ed Reed sighting...

And he was coasting....

gafftop
09-22-2013, 03:35 PM
It hurts to watch this. They can be so much better than this.

The hype sure says they could be but reality is another story. This is third game the Texans have played like this. They have been very lucky to win the first two. All three teams have been average at best.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:35 PM
Pic? How about a video?

pic is good enough- Joe doesn't duck.

cstyle42
09-22-2013, 03:35 PM
To win the super bowl the texans have to do something big. Fire someone or demote the qb. 49ers, ravens, seahawks and patriots have done it. I even remember green bay giving rodgers the go over farve. Texans gotta get out of their good ol boy ways and do what they need to do to get to the super bowl.

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:36 PM
its da old Jackson hes getting Crisped UP !!!

Texanmike02
09-22-2013, 03:36 PM
A team can't survive when 2/3 of the team can't get it together, and our special teams and Schaub are stinking it up completely. And the obvious soft spots in our defense need to be stiffened. Setting up for a long season if they don't act.

Our offense is off. It isn't all Schaub. The tackles are getting moved. Last week Brooks got owned. The difference today is that Schaub isn't making plays. You can dog him if you want but Schaub made plenty of plays against Tenn. He has moved around in the pocket well until today.

Honestly, he looks rattled. I don't know if knowing that Brown isn't out there is messing with his head or what but he is missing receivers (that are open) and his throws are off. I'll take a pick six every week if he plays the way he played last week. If he plays the way he's played today we're in trouble.

Last week the pick six was a terrible throw that should have been a pick 6 and was much more egregious than today's. The one he threw today was an il-advised throw but the receiver (OD) could have tackled him if he hadn't turned around instead of playing the ball. The body of work today has been terrible. It hasn't just been Schaub, the whole team has looked bad, the DBs have looked bad and the special teams have looked bad, everyone has looked bad.



Mike

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 03:36 PM
What is the record for consecutive pick 6 thrown by a QB in games? Schaub is at 3 and counting. I would guess he is the most experienced to do it.

Too hasty with your hate....Schaub hasnt thrown 3 consecutive pick 6's.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:37 PM
Look at that theater!

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:37 PM
who are the jags playing dis week and are the titans losing

that's the only thing that can help all the AFC south losing LOL

Titans losing to SD 17-10 under 9 minutes
Indy plays SF
Jags play Sea

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:38 PM
To win the super bowl the texans have to do something big. Fire someone or demote the qb. 49ers, ravens, seahawks and patriots have done it. I even remember green bay giving rodgers the go over farve. Texans gotta get out of their good ol boy ways and do what they need to do to get to the super bowl.

its only wk3 bro cool dem jets LOL

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:39 PM
pic is good enough- Joe doesn't duck.

No. The entire motion is good enough. You can cut a frame from wherever you want and make it look the way you see it. His helmet did meet Flacco's chin.

texanhead08
09-22-2013, 03:39 PM
Dallas Clark finally remembered he owns the texans.

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:39 PM
:kubepalm:god we suck:wadepalm:

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:39 PM
Titans losing to SD 17-10 under 9 minutes
Indy plays SF
Jags play Sea

yeah there is a good chance AFCS gets ass kicked today


and Clark is like a Texans killer LOL

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:40 PM
Ravens couldn't run a stocking....sheesh

gafftop
09-22-2013, 03:40 PM
Too hasty with your hate....Schaub hasnt thrown 3 consecutive pick 6's.

My mistake I thought he had thrown 1 pick six in each of the games this year.

darnbni99a
09-22-2013, 03:41 PM
2-1 it is...

AMartin56
09-22-2013, 03:41 PM
Am I the only one worried about our inability to force a turnover? Cushing in San Diego is the only one I remember.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:42 PM
No. The entire motion is good enough. You can cut a frame from wherever you want and make it look the way you see it. His helmet did meet Flacco's chin.

LOl- you are demanding...I love it

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:42 PM
2-1 it is...


good thing everyone else in our divison lost that helps I guess

I was kinda hoping tho we would rack off a 5-0 again this year but whatever maybe this year we will explode when it matters in NOV and DEC

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:43 PM
good thing everyone else in our divison lost that helps I guess

This would be a tie-breaker in post season seedings tho

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:44 PM
I know u can't win em all, but ur really lookin at 0-3 right now as far as who ur team really is. Yeah, let's still hang this on the kicker:kubepalm:

We have bad coaching and no killer instinct and no identity

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 03:45 PM
Even with all of this does anyone have the feeling that we still have a shot?

Yes, dumb people think we still have a shot. We don't.

Game over, and most likely season over unless we make a change at QB

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 03:45 PM
2-1 it is....last year they came to reliant and we beat the breaks off them....some weeks you just dont have it...Kubiak has to change **** up...period.

gafftop
09-22-2013, 03:45 PM
Too hasty with your hate....Schaub hasnt thrown 3 consecutive pick 6's.

Don't hate Schaub. Schaub is schaub I have always said that . I am frustrated that coaches can't see what is plain as day. I think they should have done something years ago and we should not be depending on MS to get us to SB.

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:46 PM
I just want them to score a TD this is stupid LOL

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 03:47 PM
a change to who!?!? Who on our roster is better than schaub????? Please stop this nonsense!

Either QB is better! Yates or Keenum! Are you kidding me? Schaub is HORRIBLE!

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:47 PM
False start.... late hit out of bounds....

Guess the refs got tired from all the flags thrown earlier.

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 03:47 PM
Don't hate Schaub. Schaub is schaub I have always said that . I am frustrated that coaches can't see what is plain as day. I think they should have done something years ago and we should not be depending on MS to get us to SB.

We dont just depend on schaub...we depend on the team as a whole....people needto get that in their heads.

stonewhite
09-22-2013, 03:48 PM
It's over but omg where is the urgency?!?!?!

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:48 PM
LOl- you are demanding...I love it

I saw what I saw :)

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 03:48 PM
Either QB is better! Yates or Keenum! Are you kidding me? Schaub is HORRIBLE!

You're stupid...that is all

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:48 PM
sometimes I hate when matt turns into Capt Check DOWN LOL

TexanSam
09-22-2013, 03:48 PM
Did they say what happened to AJ?

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 03:48 PM
Either QB is better! Yates or Keenum! Are you kidding me? Schaub is HORRIBLE!

I'm not sure how much better they are, but it would definitely be more interesting.

Ghostform
09-22-2013, 03:49 PM
This looks like the start of a 3 game losing streak... i hope im wrong but i just dont see how this team can beat SEA or SF playing like this.

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2013, 03:49 PM
Why does Schaub look like he's not moving when he is moving?

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:49 PM
we need to throw a few BOMBSSS we never do that

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:49 PM
Nursing home residents r more mobile than Schaub. Really startn to hate ms

Chance_C
09-22-2013, 03:49 PM
Wow

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:49 PM
2 and 17- shocked not to see a draw play

RTP2110
09-22-2013, 03:50 PM
Our o-line BLOWS

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 03:50 PM
You're stupid...that is all

Lets see if the mods neg rep you for insults, like they did me last week. And I didn't even call anyone stupid, just a Schaub apologist .... and got neg repped for it .... by a mod. Gotta love that POWA.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 03:50 PM
We dont just depend on schaub...we depend on the team as a whole....people needto get that in their heads.

When schaub's receivers have to stop for him to throw them a good pass, that isn't an NFL Championship quality quarterback. Hump schaub's leg all you like, our offense isn't going to improve with him at the helm. Period.

gafftop
09-22-2013, 03:51 PM
a change to who!?!? Who on our roster is better than schaub????? Please stop this nonsense!

Let's find out. I think TJ is a miniSchaub. I don't know what Case may be.

deucetx
09-22-2013, 03:51 PM
As frustrating as I feel Schaub is, no one we have is better right now in all likelihood. Yes, they looked good in preseason but teams hardly try and defenses are more vanilla which makes it easier for the QB to read coverage. So yeah right now it's 'In Schaub We Trust'...

Oh and Derek Newton and Wade Smith are still horrible. That is all, heh.

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:52 PM
Lets pull a San Fran and bench Schaub and start keenum. Good god ms is awful

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2013, 03:52 PM
It's time for another INT. :kubepalm:

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 03:52 PM
When Scaub's receivers have to stop for him to throw them a good pass, that isn't an NFL Championship quality quarterback. Hump Schaub's leg all you like, our offense isn't going to improve with him at the helm. Period.

It will just continue to decline, the way Matt has continued to decline. Mr Tex is just a troll ...

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:52 PM
Flacco has no mobility and he won a SB jus saying

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:53 PM
As frustrating as I feel Schaub is, no one we have is better right now in all likelihood. Yes, they looked good in preseason but teams hardly try and defenses are more vanilla which makes it easier for the QB to read coverage. So yeah right now it's 'In Schaub We Trust'...

Oh and Derek Newton and Wade Smith are still horrible. That is all, heh.

An old lady is better than ms really:wadepalm:

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:53 PM
It's time for another INT. :kubepalm:

might has well seal the deal so we can go home

gafftop
09-22-2013, 03:53 PM
We dont just depend on schaub...we depend on the team as a whole....people needto get that in their heads.

Corrected. What I should have said is Schaub should not be our QB if steps were taken when they should have been.

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 03:53 PM
Flacco has no mobility and he won a SB jus saying

Has a rocket for an arm and Matt cant even get velocity on a short pass. Also more accurate than Matt.

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:54 PM
a screen pass to Foster LOL ok

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:54 PM
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! What kinda play / throw was that?

mussop
09-22-2013, 03:54 PM
Stupid play call on fourth down.

NCTexan
09-22-2013, 03:54 PM
What a terrible look on 4th down...

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:54 PM
Flacco has no mobility and he won a SB jus saying

He is better than you think.

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2013, 03:55 PM
other throw behind his man.

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:55 PM
Has a rocket for an arm and Matt cant even get velocity on a short pass. Also more accurate than Matt.

rocket of a arm and more accurate meh that's debateable its close


flacco is like 2.2 and matt would be like a 2.1 it would be that close

HTown2ATX
09-22-2013, 03:55 PM
What a joke of a game. Time to sign off and do other $hit.....

:kubepalm:

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:56 PM
Has a rocket for an arm and Matt cant even get velocity on a short pass. Also more accurate than Matt.

actually Matt is more accurate % wise- Koe takes more shots downfield though

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:56 PM
He is better than you think.

no ive watched many ravens games flacco is not gonna scare anyone with is feet the dude is like 7 foot something hes not going to scare anybody LOL just like matt

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 03:57 PM
When schaub's receivers have to stop for him to throw them a good pass, that isn't an NFL Championship quality quarterback. Hump schaub's leg all you like, our offense isn't going to improve with him at the helm. Period.

I dont care to rehash the many problems with this team with you guys all over again....you'll never be convinced that there are other glaring problems with this team will & actually have prevented us from making it to the next level....

The qb position isnt the end all be all..

badboy
09-22-2013, 03:57 PM
18 points behind and we are calling for short passes hoping for a first down? Sheesh.

chicagotexan2
09-22-2013, 03:58 PM
Flacco has no mobility and he won a SB jus saying

Flacco doesn't go down with a light breeze unlike Schaub

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:58 PM
Bring on the rockets:wadepalm:

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Flacco doesn't go down with a light breeze unlike Schaub

Exactly. I hate ms

bckey
09-22-2013, 03:59 PM
The Texans will make the playoffs despite a run of losses before the bye. The problem is what will they do when they get there? Repeat the past or take that step forward. So far I don't see anything that makes me believe they will do anything different. Same square peg in the same round hole.

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 03:59 PM
actually Matt is more accurate % wise- Koe takes more shots downfield though

Matt numbers are highly enhanced by his receivers ability to adjust to under-thrown, over-thrown, and balls thrown behind them. He isn't accurate at all based on watching the games.

OzzO
09-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Houston Oilers?!?! Really?

Norg
09-22-2013, 03:59 PM
dang dem panthers beat the bricks off the giants

RTP2110
09-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Houston Oilers, because that was only 20 years ago

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 04:00 PM
I dont care to rehash the many problems with this team with you guys all over again....you'll never be convinced that there are other glaring problems with this team will & actually have prevented us from making it to the next level....

The qb position isnt the end all be all..

A good one can certainly keep a team in contention despite the fact that other problems exist.

arb729
09-22-2013, 04:00 PM
aaannnnddd the Titans just took the lead with 15 seconds left...

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 04:01 PM
Flacco doesn't go down with a light breeze unlike Schaub

stands tall and moves around in pocket, also plays outdoors in bad/cold weather

SAMURAITEXAN
09-22-2013, 04:01 PM
I am really concerned about how Schaub puts us in corner with his INTs for last 3 games. It always happens well deep on our side of the field. I can understand it if it happens with mid to long range pass but, it happens with the short range passes. We got all the weapons in place and this is the result we get? I am very disappointed.

OzzO
09-22-2013, 04:01 PM
Titans just scored in the last few seconds... they're up 19-17 with extra point coming.

dtran04
09-22-2013, 04:01 PM
Whats's with the Texans always getting announcers that are openly against them?

Berman and then now Dierdorf.

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 04:01 PM
dang dem panthers beat the bricks off the giants

Congrats to the Panthers. Also the Patriots and Cowboys.

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 04:02 PM
I am really concerned about how Schaub puts us in corner with his INTs for last 3 games. It always happens well deep on our side of the field. I can understand it if it happens with mid to long range pass but, it happens with the short range passes. We got all the weapons in place and this is the result we get? I am very disappointed.

You are hired. New head coach right here!

Report tomorrow to begin using common sense ... something our coaching staff doesn't have.

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 04:02 PM
dang dem panthers beat the bricks off the giants

Yep, and thats a 2 time SB winning qb thats about to fall to 0-3 right there..... Loaded on offense too.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 04:02 PM
As frustrating as I feel Schaub is, no one we have is better right now in all likelihood. Yes, they looked good in preseason but teams hardly try and defenses are more vanilla which makes it easier for the QB to read coverage. So yeah right now it's 'In Schaub We Trust'...

Oh and Derek Newton and Wade Smith are still horrible. That is all, heh.

Keenum outpaced the cowgirl's starting offense for a quarter and a half, and out worked their starting defense for the entire half. How did everybody miss this?

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 04:03 PM
:kubepalm:I am really concerned about how Schaub puts us in corner with his INTs for last 3 games. It always happens well deep on our side of the field. I can understand it if it happens with mid to long range pass but, it happens with the short range passes. We got all the weapons in place and this is the result we get? I am very disappointed.

Fair observation.

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 04:03 PM
Whats's with the Texans always getting announcers that are openly against them?

Berman and then now Dierdorf.

Bc we deserve it for being frauds

kingtexan
09-22-2013, 04:04 PM
Keenum outpaced the cowgirl's starting offense for a quarter and a half, and out worked their starting defense for the entire half. How did everybody miss this?

No one missed it. He should be #2 on the depth chart, and after this game ... #1.

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 04:07 PM
A good one can certainly keep a team in contention despite the fact that other problems exist.

Matt is good...elite one are the only 1's who can do that and even then ythe other side of the ball has to be at least average. But what you're talking about is 5 qb's in a league of 32...how'd flacco look when manning was torching his defense for 7 Td's? How about kaepernick last week?

houstonspartan
09-22-2013, 04:07 PM
I'm at the MGM Grand in Vegas watching this nonsense, and I'm glad I have ample opportunity to drown my sorrows after this game. Yeesh.

BullBlitz
09-22-2013, 04:07 PM
No one missed it. He should be #2 on the depth chart, and after this game ... #1.

Yates, Keenum and Schaub. We have three solid backups.

All we need is a starter.

:)

Mr teX
09-22-2013, 04:08 PM
Keenum outpaced the cowgirl's starting offense for a quarter and a half, and out worked their starting defense for the entire half. How did everybody miss this?

Lol, you're talking about a preseason game? :kubepalm: wwwwoooooowwww.

houstonspartan
09-22-2013, 04:08 PM
And...the CBS feed in Vegas just dropped our game.

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 04:09 PM
" field goal won't be the diff b/ t winning and losing". Really, u think dierdorf:wadepalm:

MistaRed
09-22-2013, 04:10 PM
After every bad game here comes the start keenum gang. It's annoying.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 04:10 PM
I dont care to rehash the many problems with this team with you guys all over again....you'll never be convinced that there are other glaring problems with this team will & actually have prevented us from making it to the next level....

The qb position isnt the end all be all..

I agree there are other problem spots. That doesn't mean you keep playing a glaring problem when there are already better solutions on the team. Fix what you can when you can. There's no valid reason to keep going to Schaub.

gafftop
09-22-2013, 04:12 PM
And...the CBS feed in Vegas just dropped our game.

Lucky

SAMURAITEXAN
09-22-2013, 04:12 PM
On the positive side, our D and Kicker got good FG practice.

Uncle Rico
09-22-2013, 04:12 PM
Bmore was way more physical then HOU. Their offensive and defensive lines just kicked the hell out of us all day.

Schaub is killing me with the turnovers. Dink and duck.

Defense is bad against the pass, no pressure - no turnovers..

Special teams coverage needs more work.

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 04:13 PM
After every bad game here comes the start keenum gang. It's annoying.

U know what's annoying is ms and his pick sixes. Ms and his lead feet. Ms and his under thrown passes

CretorFrigg
09-22-2013, 04:14 PM
So glad I didn't watch this game.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 04:14 PM
Bmore was way more physical then HOU. Their offensive and defensive lines just kicked the hell out of us all day.

Schaub is killing me with the turnovers. Dink and duck.

Defense is bad against the pass, no pressure - no turnovers..

Special teams coverage needs more work.

Houston Def line was damn good today

waynegg
09-22-2013, 04:16 PM
Lol, you're talking about a preseason game? :kubepalm: wwwwoooooowwww.

No, I'm talking about starters he faced. You think Dallas just phoned it in during their last chance to no fault work on their starters? It would be different if Dallas had been taking last looks at their other tryouts, but they weren't.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 04:16 PM
On the positive side, our D and Kicker got good FG practice.

Yup

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2013, 04:21 PM
Imagine for a sec your hou texans with Peyton manning as QB and Bill Cowher as head coach.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 04:27 PM
Imagine for a sec your hou texans with Peyton manning as QB and Bill Cowher as head coach.

A young Peyton? Yes that would be nice.

Uncle Rico
09-22-2013, 04:29 PM
Houston Def line was damn good today

Against the run yeah. Not much in terms of pass pressure. Joe Cool had a lot of time when he needed it. You guys really smacked this team in the mouth, hopefully it lights a fire and they learn from it.

Bulls on Parade
09-22-2013, 04:32 PM
Against the run yeah. Not much in terms of pass pressure. Joe Cool had a lot of time when he needed it. You guys really smacked this team in the mouth, hopefully it lights a fire and they learn from it.
Maybe we can do what Baltimore did last year. They seemed to man up after that 43-13 loss in Houston. We need to take this 30-9 loss in a positive way and let it fuel us moving forward.

CeeQue
09-22-2013, 04:35 PM
Maybe we can do what Baltimore did last year. They seemed to man up after that 43-13 loss in Houston. We need to take this 30-9 loss in a positive way and let it fuel us moving forward.

Wishful thinking.... but not gonna happen. Schaub sux!!!

Bulls on Parade
09-22-2013, 04:38 PM
Wishful thinking.... but not gonna happen. Schaub sux!!!
I'm more concerned with our pass defense more than the offense. Johnathan Joseph is not playing at an All Pro level like he did in 2011. He's been struggling for this being his second season in a row. Just doesn't seem to have the great speed he had in his younger days. And Kareem Jackson, for the life of me, never turns around to play the damn ball. If he just did that he could become a legitimate star in this league. He has all the other tools a top-flight cornerback needs but plays with a low IQ.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 04:44 PM
I'm more concerned with our pass defense more than the offense. Johnathan Joseph is not playing at an All Pro level like he did in 2011. He's been struggling for this being his second season in a row. Just doesn't seem to have the great speed he had in his younger days. And Kareem Jackson, for the life of me, never turns around to play the damn ball. If he just did that he could become a legitimate star in this league. He has all the other tools a top-flight cornerback needs but plays with a low IQ.

I feel like he's had enough bad calls for perfect coverage going against him he's forced to play how he does, in a fairness. He had so many interference calls last year where he never touched the receiver, but may as well have been their shadow.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 04:48 PM
I guess my post got deleted...


Either way I was just trying to lighten the mood.. Didnt mean any of it. I was just trolling the fairweather fans.

.. Anyway, Schuab Wasnt the problem as much as the O line and the constant pressure he faced.

If Schaub weren't so slow, the O line wouldn't be forced to keep the defense pinned for so long. Three seconds is an eternity, and Schaub needs six. My local high school QB could work out in the kind of conditions you seem to be expecting.

Bulls on Parade
09-22-2013, 04:56 PM
We'll see what the Texans are made of these next two games against the Seahawks at home and the 49ers on the road. Obviously, we should all feel good to be 2-1 and not 0-3 considering we trailed all three games in the fourth quarter.

Worst case scenario, we lose to the Seahawks and 49ers and drop to 2-3. But either way this AFC South is going to be a battle all year long. I still think this is a playoff team. I've seen other posters predicting 8-8 and no playoffs.

How this team is playing at the end of the season and going into the playoffs is more important than dropping a game or two early in the season.

Hervoyel
09-22-2013, 05:00 PM
I guess my post got deleted...


Either way I was just trying to lighten the mood.. Didnt mean any of it. I was just trolling the fairweather fans.

.. Anyway, Schuab Wasnt the problem as much as the O line and the constant pressure he faced.

Agreed. The pressure was the problem, not Schaub's inability to deal with it. As we all know no QB has ever been forced to cope with pressure on the way to a Super Bowl win. That never happens.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 05:02 PM
I saw what I saw :)

You saw what you wanted to see

https://twitter.com/handswarmer/status/381878736435417088/photo/1

http://s419.photobucket.com/user/Handswarmer/media/VID_00000019_edit_0.mp4.html

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 05:04 PM
Maybe we can do what Baltimore did last year. They seemed to man up after that 43-13 loss in Houston. We need to take this 30-9 loss in a positive way and let it fuel us moving forward.

The loss in Washington and changing OC seemed to light a fire- also a lot of players got healthy on defense...

burro
09-22-2013, 05:05 PM
This wasn't a good game for us in any aspect.

Whatever momentum we had was killed when JJo got burnt deep on 3rd and 13 on the opening drive of the half. Immediately following, you could tell there was no miracle in the making. Ed Reed made little to no difference, which is sad considering who were settling for until he could get on the field.

The offense was equally inept. Most people will blame Schaub because its the easy thing to do, but terrible oline play and poor playing calling (a WR screen on 4th down? :kubepalm:) deserve as much, if not more, of the blame. Haters gonna hate, Schaub will shut them up or he wont. Fortunately, there are still 13 games to go.

Finally, Foster can raindance his butt to another team if it means a high draft pick or big improvement at RT. His heart's not in it and Tate is the better long term investment anyway.

thunderkyss
09-22-2013, 05:09 PM
Matt numbers are highly enhanced by his receivers ability to adjust to under-thrown, over-thrown, and balls thrown behind them. He isn't accurate at all based on watching the games.

The one ball he puts in front of OD gets picked for 6 against us.

AMartin56
09-22-2013, 05:12 PM
I thought Foster ran pretty well early before we got behind. But I'd love to see a little more variety in the play calling. Do we run anything other than a stretch play? Doesn't seem like it at times. And it would be nice to see us get the ball to him in space more often than twice a year.

Lucky
09-22-2013, 05:15 PM
I was just trolling...

And that's why it got bounced.

thunderkyss
09-22-2013, 05:15 PM
.. Anyway, Schuab Wasnt the problem as much as the O line and the constant pressure he faced.

Do you think Kubiak has the tools to fix it, or coach around it?

Brennan Williams, got hurt, as did QBerry. Chances are we're not going to get someone off the street.

I wonder if the Browns would consider Ben Tate for Joe Thomas.

Rey
09-22-2013, 05:16 PM
The one ball he puts in front of OD gets picked for 6 against us.

I think all his picks this year have been of different varieties.

Next week I think we'll see one where he throws it out in front of a WR on a deep ball but the defender will be I better position than our guy.

Almost got that one today.

thunderkyss
09-22-2013, 05:17 PM
I'm more concerned with our pass defense more than the offense. Johnathan Joseph is not playing at an All Pro level like he did in 2011. He's been struggling for this being his second season in a row. Just doesn't seem to have the great speed he had in his younger days. And Kareem Jackson, for the life of me, never turns around to play the damn ball. If he just did that he could become a legitimate star in this league. He has all the other tools a top-flight cornerback needs but plays with a low IQ.

Again, I think both calls against KJ was bull. Looked like he turned his head to me. Looked like he was playing the ball both times.

Bulls on Parade
09-22-2013, 05:22 PM
I think the entire team can play a lot better. There is no excuse for us to be trailing all three games in the fourth quarter. We were staring 0-3 in the face but I think we'll all take 2-1

Like I said, we're going to find out what the Texans are made of these next two games against the Seahawks and 49ers. These could be two must-win games early in the season, especially if the Colts beat the 49ers on the road right now. Texans, Colts and Titans may all be 2-1 in a couple of hours.

That AFC South is looking tough.

Rey
09-22-2013, 05:28 PM
Do you think Kubiak has the tools to fix it, or coach around it?

Brennan Williams, got hurt, as did QBerry. Chances are we're not going to get someone off the street.

I wonder if the Browns would consider Ben Tate for Joe Thomas.

No he doesn't have the tools to create a perfect environment for the QB.

How about making a play or two when an oline men gives up some pressure.

I've watched a lot of games, and I've seen plenty Olines give up pressure. I've seen guys get free shots only to have the qb make a quick read or get out of the way to buy some time.

When Schaub gets pressured I'm expecting 1) fetal position 2) MAYBE he evades only to chunk it out of bounds

This is the same guy that threw the ball out of bounds when no one was close to him last year in a road play off game. That tells me all I need to know about him when he gets pressure. He loses his senses and goes into survival mode. The last thing he's thinking is this is an opportunity to gash the defense.

leebigeztx
09-22-2013, 05:59 PM
No he doesn't have the tools to create a perfect environment for the QB.

How about making a play or two when an oline men gives up some pressure.

I've watched a lot of games, and I've seen plenty Olines give up pressure. I've seen guys get free shots only to have the qb make a quick read or get out of the way to buy some time.

When Schaub gets pressured I'm expecting 1) fetal position 2) MAYBE he evades only to chunk it out of bounds

This is the same guy that threw the ball out of bounds when no one was close to him last year in a road play off game. That tells me all I need to know about him when he gets pressure. He loses his senses and goes into survival mode. The last thing he's thinking is this is an opportunity to gash the defense.

This is why I say u cant win a superbowl or even get to one with schaub. At some point, the qb has to make 5 plays that define the game. We've seen qbs do it when there wasnt a reason. We've seen rodger,big ben,and eli win with 0 running game and shoddy olines. In this day and age with the cap, u can only hide a qb so much or for so long. Kubiak has to hide the qb or overcome his lim7tations. We've seen qbs make wrs better. We've seen them make the line look beeter. The days of trent dilfer winning a superbowl is over. Unless u have a stacked team and somehow u get a rook or a 2nd yr guy playing at an all pro level befor3 u have to pay him. Its not that hard to see to those who open their eyes. The defense held ravens to 65yds of offense in the 1st half. If the top qbs get that kind of defense,that game is over in the morning 1st half.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 06:21 PM
You saw what you wanted to see

https://twitter.com/handswarmer/status/381878736435417088/photo/1

http://s419.photobucket.com/user/Handswarmer/media/VID_00000019_edit_0.mp4.html

He attacked the shoulder pad. The other contact is incidental. Otherwise the force would have been directed up and through his chin.

DX-TEX
09-22-2013, 06:27 PM
What happened to Dre? Any news?

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 06:27 PM
He attacked the shoulder pad. The other contact is incidental. Otherwise the force would have been directed at and through his chin.

You saw what you wanted to see.

The rule states contact with the QB's head intentional or unintentional.

I could argue a case for 'launching' also

Vinny
09-22-2013, 06:34 PM
What happened to Dre? Any news?
getting a MRI on his shin tomorrow

thunderkyss
09-22-2013, 06:35 PM
What happened to Dre? Any news?

After the game Kubiak said the half-time x-ray was negative, but it was more "painful" than it should have been so they'll do an MRI tomorrow.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 06:35 PM
What happened to Dre? Any news?

Took a knee to the knee

waynegg
09-22-2013, 07:57 PM
It's a bs rule. If incidental contact doesn't wave off the penalty like it does for every other position, the qbs just need to wear flags. Which is ridiculous.

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2013, 08:56 PM
After the game Kubiak said the half-time x-ray was negative, but it was more "painful" than it should have been so they'll do an MRI tomorrow.

Not if it is at least a bone bruise. X-rays don't pick up bone bruises and seldom pick up early stress fractures. MRIs will tell the story.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 09:01 PM
It's a bs rule. If incidental contact doesn't wave off the penalty like it does for every other position, the qbs just need to wear flags. Which is ridiculous.

Mercilous 6'4" Flacco 6'6"

you are making excuses

waynegg
09-22-2013, 10:23 PM
Mercilous 6'4" Flacco 6'6"

you are making excuses

Excuses. Wtfever. It had nothing to do with who the call was in favor of and everything to do with how ridiculously protected by the rules quarterbacks are. You're so full of purple you're missing the point.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 10:25 PM
Excuses. Wtfever. It had nothing to do with who the call was in favor of and everything to do with how ridiculously protected by the rules quarterbacks are. You're so full of purple you're missing the point.

Some qb's - Joe and Ben never get the same calls that Peyton and Lady Brady do....that's the point.

waynegg
09-22-2013, 10:48 PM
Some qb's - Joe and Ben never get the same calls that Peyton and Lady Brady do....that's the point.

True that! Except Joe sure got the call today. It's a stupid rule that's detrimental to the game. There's a huge difference between teeing off on someone's head and someone's head being bumped collatorally on the play. And the difference is quite obvious.

I forgive you for supporting your team. It seems you feel much the same.

axman40
09-23-2013, 06:45 AM
I picked the wrong week to quit huffing glue.
:sarcasm:

handswarmer
09-23-2013, 08:14 AM
True that! Except Joe sure got the call today. It's a stupid rule that's detrimental to the game. There's a huge difference between teeing off on someone's head and someone's head being bumped collatorally on the play. And the difference is quite obvious.

I forgive you for supporting your team. It seems you feel much the same.

"Head being bumped"? Is that Texican for 'crushed his jaw"?

LOL:vincepalm:

handswarmer
09-26-2013, 10:33 AM
True that! Except Joe sure got the call today. It's a stupid rule that's detrimental to the game. There's a huge difference between teeing off on someone's head and someone's head being bumped collatorally on the play. And the difference is quite obvious.

I forgive you for supporting your team. It seems you feel much the same.

Mercilus fined $15,000 for hit on Flacco

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-texans-whitney-mercilus-fined-15000-for-hit-on-joe-flacco-20130925,0,7548123.story

Big52Hurt
09-26-2013, 01:35 PM
..and there's the mandatory Schaub pick 6
And folks wonder why some of us rag on Schaub.
Ahhhh..there it is. The Swab pick 6 of the week.
So.....who else saw this coming?

hey fellas! tough loss last week but we Ravens fans remember that skull dragging the Texans gave us last year. to be honest, I was sitting at home and said; "Schaub is good for at least 2 picks" a game and then bam! he threw that pick 6 to my boy Smith.

question: I don't keep up with the Texans much as a Ravens fan so, what do you guys feel it is that causes Schaub to toss so many picks? he seems like a solid QB.

thunderkyss
09-26-2013, 01:51 PM
I was sitting at home and said; "Schaub is good for at least 2 picks" a game and then bam! he threw that pick 6 to my boy Smith.

question: I don't keep up with the Texans much as a Ravens fan so, what do you guys feel it is that causes Schaub to toss so many picks? he seems like a solid QB.

I think 16 picks is about right & he'll probably throw as many this year. I honestly don't think he thinks fast enough to "master" ball placement. So you'll get the one like we saw to Daryl Smith. He normally throws behind the receiver, which I hate, because there isn't always a reason to do so. In that case, where that LB was standing, that was exactly the situation you want to throw the ball behind the receiver. Smith wouldn't have had a play on it.

The one to DeAndre in the Titans game... He was playing it safe, wanted to throw it short of the sticks. DeAndre wanted to take it to the house.

But over 16 games, I think his numbers will even out to his norm. He's a machine. Not as well tuned as Peyton, but you know what you're going to get from Schaub.

Big52Hurt
09-26-2013, 02:24 PM
I think 16 picks is about right & he'll probably throw as many this year. I honestly don't think he thinks fast enough to "master" ball placement. So you'll get the one like we saw to Daryl Smith. He normally throws behind the receiver, which I hate, because there isn't always a reason to do so. In that case, where that LB was standing, that was exactly the situation you want to throw the ball behind the receiver. Smith wouldn't have had a play on it.

The one to DeAndre in the Titans game... He was playing it safe, wanted to throw it short of the sticks. DeAndre wanted to take it to the house.

But over 16 games, I think his numbers will even out to his norm. He's a machine. Not as well tuned as Peyton, but you know what you're going to get from Schaub.

points well taken!

badboy
09-26-2013, 03:09 PM
I think 16 picks is about right & he'll probably throw as many this year. I honestly don't think he thinks fast enough to "master" ball placement. So you'll get the one like we saw to Daryl Smith. He normally throws behind the receiver, which I hate, because there isn't always a reason to do so. In that case, where that LB was standing, that was exactly the situation you want to throw the ball behind the receiver. Smith wouldn't have had a play on it.

The one to DeAndre in the Titans game... He was playing it safe, wanted to throw it short of the sticks. DeAndre wanted to take it to the house.

But over 16 games, I think his numbers will even out to his norm. He's a machine. Not as well tuned as Peyton, but you know what you're going to get from Schaub.FYI in the three years with Texans that Schaub has played 16 games he avgs 13 INTs.

thunderkyss
09-26-2013, 04:36 PM
FYI in the three years with Texans that Schaub has played 16 games he avgs 13 INTs.

Right. "About" 16. I'm hoping he ups his TDs as well.

handswarmer
09-29-2013, 08:10 AM
hey fellas! tough loss last week but we Ravens fans remember that skull dragging the Texans gave us last year. to be honest, I was sitting at home and said; "Schaub is good for at least 2 picks" a game and then bam! he threw that pick 6 to my boy Smith.

question: I don't keep up with the Texans much as a Ravens fan so, what do you guys feel it is that causes Schaub to toss so many picks? he seems like a solid QB.

He throws off his back foot a lot on the short to intermediate passes and he doesn't have the arm strength to do it.

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 11:19 AM
He throws off his back foot a lot on the short to intermediate passes and he doesn't have the arm strength to do it.

I do agree that it's most likely an overestimation of his arm strength that leads to so many batted balls, which leads to interceptions. But he's also got a slow trigger. The release is fine, once he makes up his mind, but from decision to cocking his arm, let's just say you can write a book.

However, I believe the primary reason for his propensity to throw interception is his novel approach to ball placement. He tries to put the ball where it's "easiest" for the receiver to catch the ball, regardless how his receiver is being defended. Since he is usually throwing to wide open targets, it doesn't bite him as often as you'd think it would.

CloakNNNdagger
09-29-2013, 12:14 PM
He throws off his back foot a lot on the short to intermediate passes and he doesn't have the arm strength to do it.

That's because he doesn't have a healthy back foot to push off of..........a problem that effects both strength of throw (especially in tight spaces) and accuracy (again, especially in tight spaces).

gafftop
09-29-2013, 01:04 PM
Anybody see Russell Wilson mic'd up. I want to see Matt mic'd up.

If we try and establish run I think we get stuffed.
Short passes will be defended closely. Hopefully no interceptions.
When MS holds ball longer he will be rushed and either get sacked, throw ball away. fumble ...

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 01:47 PM
Look at that mobility by Schaub

thunderkyss
09-29-2013, 01:48 PM
puff puff pass brooks. puff puff pass

OzzO
09-29-2013, 01:51 PM
---------------->This is last week's game thread vs Ravens<--------------

Let it go