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Playoffs
09-18-2013, 11:51 AM
Big loss, but Manning has a history of playing well behind poor lines.

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis
Ryan Clady will have surgery on left foot. Chris Clark will start at LT. Details coming

LT Ryan Clady is going on season-ending IR. Done. Team is signing veteran OT Winston Justice.
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
Horrible news for #Broncos, Peyton, & Clady, who is headed to IR. He did sign a 5-year, $57.5M deal with $33M guaranteed in the offseason

NastyNate
09-18-2013, 11:56 AM
Damn, huge blow to that team. I really like Clady, stud left tackle. Like you said though, Manning is used to playing behind screen doors so I imagine it will be a minor problem.

Playoffs
09-18-2013, 12:00 PM
Damn, huge blow to that team. I really like Clady, stud left tackle. Like you said though, Manning is used to playing behind screen doors so I imagine it will be a minor problem.

Lost his starting Center in preseason. As long his C makes good line calls & keeps him clean up the middle he's shown he can work.

LikeMike
09-18-2013, 01:32 PM
Damn, huge blow to that team. I really like Clady, stud left tackle. Like you said though, Manning is used to playing behind screen doors so I imagine it will be a minor problem.

It will be more than a minor problem - sure Peyton is real good at getting the ball out quickly - but the luxury of scanning the field for a longer time is something that makes him just outright scary. The Broncos just got a lot worse - sure, they still are among the favorites for the Super Bowl, but they will miss Clady both in the passing and in the running game... if only we had an ROLB that could wreak havoc...

Corrosion
09-18-2013, 01:46 PM
Feel bad for Clady , never want to see a guy get hurt ....


This'll hurt them .... That extra half second Clady buys you over <insert random replacement here> is the difference between being able to throw down field routes and being forced to check down.
This cuts out the deep middle routes to TE's and such , making their passing game look a lot like a running game - 3 yards & a cloud of dust , or Manning flat on his back (Couldn't happen to a better guy :heh:)

IDEXAN
09-18-2013, 01:52 PM
Damn, huge blow to that team. I really like Clady, stud left tackle. Like you said though, Manning is used to playing behind screen doors so I imagine it will be a minor problem.
QB's Blind Side exposed ? No, not a minor problem.

b0ng
09-18-2013, 08:59 PM
QB's Blind Side exposed ? No, not a minor problem.

You must've missed the Colts years after Tarrik Glenn retired. They had terrible LT's and it didn't matter because Manning has a ridiculously short release time.

paycheck71
09-18-2013, 09:58 PM
You must've missed the Colts years after Tarrik Glenn retired. They had terrible LT's and it didn't matter because Manning has a ridiculously short release time.

Quick release and getting the ball out quickly are two different things.

If you throw underneath stuff to Welker all the time and you don't need the pass protection to hold for 4 sec, you can get the ball out in under 2. But if you have no deep ball threat (and you don't if your line can't protect long enough for the deep routes to develop), then the dink and dunk underneath stuff becomes more difficult as well because the secondaries don't pay much attention to the receivers going deep.

Texecutioner
09-18-2013, 10:15 PM
This is definitely a big blow for the Broncs. It really just depends on how good of a job their back ups can do though. That is what will determine how bad this is. But, on first thought and glance, this is a problem.

b0ng
09-18-2013, 11:05 PM
Quick release and getting the ball out quickly are two different things.

If you throw underneath stuff to Welker all the time and you don't need the pass protection to hold for 4 sec, you can get the ball out in under 2. But if you have no deep ball threat (and you don't if your line can't protect long enough for the deep routes to develop), then the dink and dunk underneath stuff becomes more difficult as well because the secondaries don't pay much attention to the receivers going deep.

Manning's ball placement is still good enough that a 2 second pocket can still end up with 20+ yard receptions. Nobody here is saying that Manning doesn't need a LT, but he's gone plenty of time with replacement level players at LT and he's still been Peyton Manning.

This hurts the Broncos already sorry run game more than it does the passing game.

CloakNNNdagger
09-18-2013, 11:43 PM
ProFootballFocus ranks Manning 7th this season so far in QB release time of 2.6 seconds.

Last season, Manning spent an average of 2.5 seconds in the pocket, the league’s second fastest release time to Tom Brady’s 2.3 seconds.

Manning has been even quicker getting rid of the ball this year, although his 2.48 second release time ranks seventh in the league, as may NFL offenses are trying to hurry along their quarterbacks. The six QBs with quicker release times through two games (according to ProFootballFocus.com): Matthew Stafford (2.26 seconds); Andy Dalton (2.28); Carson Palmer (2.33); Tony Romo (2.42); Philip Rivers (2.45) and Aaron Rodgers (2.45).

Rivers is no doubt benefiting from working with Mike McCoy, who was Manning’s offensive coordinator last season.

Gase, who replaced McCoy as offensive coordinator, has Manning and the Broncos going even faster this year. When Manning gets rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds or less, he has a 139.1 passer rating. Only Rodgers at 147.5 has a better rating when releasing in 2.5 seconds or quicker. link (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/09/17/peyton-manning-release-time-can-compensate-for-clady-loss/21739/)

Corrosion
09-19-2013, 12:30 AM
It will only take one play , one mistake by Clady's replacement to get PeyMeATon .... Broken.

Allstar
09-19-2013, 12:42 AM
It's Peyton. He'll make it work.

thunderkyss
09-19-2013, 03:23 PM
ProFootballFocus ranks Manning 7th this season so far in QB release time of 2.6 seconds.
The six QBs with quicker release times through two games (according to ProFootballFocus.com): Matthew Stafford (2.26 seconds); Andy Dalton (2.28); Carson Palmer (2.33); Tony Romo (2.42); Philip Rivers (2.45) and Aaron Rodgers (2.45).

Rivers is no doubt benefiting from working with Mike McCoy, who was Manning’s offensive coordinator last season.

link (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/09/17/peyton-manning-release-time-can-compensate-for-clady-loss/21739/)

Not surprised to see Rivers on that list. There was no doubt they were getting rid of the ball quick when we played them.

I was watching Dalton Monday Night. For the first time, I was impressed with him, getting rid of the ball was only part of the reason, but he's coming along fine with them thar Bengals.

NastyNate
09-23-2013, 08:54 PM
QB's Blind Side exposed ? No, not a minor problem.

Like I said, minor problem.

kingtexan
09-23-2013, 08:58 PM
Like I said, minor problem.

Doesn't seem to be an issue at all.

NastyNate
09-23-2013, 09:09 PM
Doesn't seem to be an issue at all.

This isn't Matt Schaub we're talking about! Manning, god condemn and damn his soul, is one of the best we'll ever see. He'll figure it out.

thunderkyss
09-23-2013, 09:26 PM
This isn't Matt Schaub we're talking about! Manning, god condemn and damn his soul, is one of the best we'll ever see. He'll figure it out.

It's not Terrell Suggs or Elvis Dumerville either.