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09-17-2013, 01:43 PM
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Houston Texans(2-0) at Super Bowl Champion Baltimore Ravens(1-1)

Weather outlook: http://www.wunderground.com/sports/NFL/hometeam/Baltimore:Ravens.html?st=1379854800

Ravens 2013 draft
1 32 S Matt Elam Florida
2 56 LB Arthur Brown Kansas St.
3 94 DT Brandon Williams Missouri Southern St.
4 129 DE John Simon Ohio State
4 130 FB Kyle Juszczyk Harvard
5 168 G Ricky Wagner Wisconsin
6 200 DE Kapron Lewis-Moore Notre Dame
6 203 C Ryan Jensen Colorado State-Pueblo
7 238 WR Aaron Mellette Elon
7 247 CB Marc Anthony California

Rookie wide receiver Marlon Brown a surprising catch for Ravens (http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-09-13/sports/bs-sp-ravens-marlon-brown-0914-20130913_1_cleveland-browns-a-j-green-marlon-brown)

Source: Browns Phil Taylor insists Ray Rice spit on him (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/16/source-phil-taylor-insists-ray-rice-spit-on-him/)

Ray Rice day to day after injuring hip in Ravens' win (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000245885/article/ray-rice-day-to-day-after-injuring-hip-in-ravens-win)

Jacoby Jones loses DWTS (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Jacoby-Jones-Finishes-Third-In-Dancing-With-The-Stars/a330bc92-7268-4e69-8196-fc36475e19fc)

Greg Gumbel, Dan Dierdorf will be calling Texans @Ravens on CBS.

News/notes/comments/etc.

76Texan
09-17-2013, 02:09 PM
Williams, Lewis-Moore, Melette and Jacoby Jones will all be out for this game.

gwallaia
09-17-2013, 03:59 PM
Will Ed Reed makes his debut as a Texan in Baltimore?

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09-17-2013, 04:09 PM
Will Ed Reed makes his debut as a Texan in Baltimore?

I think so, yes. Gary said they were very close last week.

DX-TEX
09-17-2013, 04:22 PM
Will Ed Reed makes his debut as a Texan in Baltimore?

It as Ed's plan all along. Even Kubiak finally stated Monday that they have been listening to Ed and seeing when he is ready.

Ed being Ed

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09-17-2013, 04:33 PM
Ed Reed: My preparation is for long haul, not Ravens (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000246395/article/ed-reed-my-preparation-is-for-long-haul-not-ravens)
Reed was a call-in guest Tuesday on "The Rich Eisen Podcast," where he explained why missing a game against the team he won a Super Bowl with seven months ago wouldn't be the end of the world.

"It's nothing that urged me to play this week, you know I didn't circle this on the calendar," Reed explained. "I said it earlier in the offseason that with my rehab I'm not preparing to play against San Diego or Tennessee or even the Ravens.

"It's about being there for the long haul, being there for the team when it really counts, and that's playoffs, the Super Bowl, AFC Championship Game."

Sunday will provide some extra nostalgia for Reed as the Ravens induct longtime teammate Ray Lewis into the team's Ring of Honor during halftime. Reed doesn't project any bitterness about his departure from Baltimore, where he starred for 11 seasons.

"Everything that transpired between me and the Ravens is business, you know I had a great career there," Reed said. "I never saw myself playing against the Ravens so nothing in my heart, my soul that's urging me to play."

"I know it's a special day because yeah, my boy is going in the Ring of Honor, more than deserved for him. I always pictured myself on the sidelines watching that happen at halftime or something."

Reed will be in the building for Lewis' big celebration. Whether he'll be on the sideline -- or in uniform -- remains to be seen.

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09-17-2013, 05:17 PM
Matt Elam promoted to Ravens starting free safety (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000246374/article/matt-elam-promoted-to-ravens-starting-free-safety)
Baltimore Ravens first-round draft pick Matt Elam has been promoted to the starting lineup, but the player he's replacing is a mild surprise.

Elam now is listed as the starting free safety on the team's official depth chart after playing 66 snaps to just six snaps for Michael Huff in Week 2.

The expectation was that Elam would eventually replace James Ihedigbo, who was a career special teamer before moving to Bernard Pollard's vacated strong safety spot this offseason...

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09-17-2013, 05:57 PM
Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro
On SportsTalk Live, Duane Brown (turf toe) says he's a game-time decision for Sunday's game against the Ravens. #Texans

"I'd love to be out there at Baltimore this weekend. But I really don't know right now." - Duane Brown

swyyyguy
09-17-2013, 06:09 PM
i know ray rice got injured last game. is he available for this game?

cstyle42
09-17-2013, 06:14 PM
Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro

Turf toe turns great players to average players.

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09-17-2013, 06:18 PM
i know ray rice got injured last game. is he available for this game?Day to day, not thought to be serious at this point.


Ray Rice day to day after injuring hip in Ravens' win (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000245885/article/ray-rice-day-to-day-after-injuring-hip-in-ravens-win)

Tailgate
09-17-2013, 07:55 PM
Maaaaaaan. I'm a bit leery of this game. Ravens aint no joke, and they want some payback from last year. That front 7 is pretty damn stout and with 76 maybe out, Tate and Foster are gonna be up against it. Schaub is going to have to come big kind of like he did in Denver last year for us to pull this one out.

HJam72
09-17-2013, 07:59 PM
If we make it to the Superbowl, you can count on Ed Reed probably getting in the game. :splits:

Playoffs
09-17-2013, 10:20 PM
Looking like we're starting this early:

What is status of Duane Brown...? (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2211747#post2211747)


http://cbskilt2.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/next-man-up-stop-2-69.jpg

Ryan Harris? Nate Menkin? Andrew Gardner?

EllisUnit
09-17-2013, 10:41 PM
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EllisUnit
09-17-2013, 10:46 PM
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damn i forgot visiting team goes on the left and home on the right :vincepalm:

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09-17-2013, 10:55 PM
damn i forgot visiting team goes on the left and home on the right :vincepalm:

Still wicked work. Will definitely be better than the crap I scrap off Google images. :thumbup

Allstar
09-17-2013, 11:09 PM
i know ray rice got injured last game. is he available for this game?

I believe he is going to sit out practice all week and see how he feels on Sunday. No practice usually means no games (unless you're Steve McNair)

TexanExile
09-18-2013, 03:04 AM
Greg Gumbel, Dan Dierdorf will be calling Texans @Ravens on CBS.

Before the Berman debacle in Week 1 this used to be the worst broadcaster news I could imagine.

thunderkyss
09-18-2013, 06:53 AM
It's been mentioned, that the Ravens are struggling. Their loss to the Broncos & their struggle against the Browns are being used as evidence. But how much does that really tell us?

Most people believe the Broncos are playing better than any other team in the AFC..... some believe they're the best team in the league right now. A loss to Denver is not necessarily a bad thing.

The Browns... the lowly Browns, are a divisional opponent to the Ravens, much like the Titans are to us. Cleveland had a better defense than Tennessee in 2012 (slightly) & they've made some additions to that side of the ball as well. Their biggest problem last season was their offense... & Jake locker threw for less than 150 yards on Sunday.

All I'm saying is we probably shouldn't infer too much from the Ravens performance so far. Flacco has shown a knack for stepping up when he needs to & this week might be more than just a "nice to win" game. This is their home opener, they're going to induct Ray Lewis into their Ring of Honor..... & we don't do well against "emotional" teams.

No doom & gloom here, I expect a win in Baltimore, but it's going to look ugly.

thunderkyss
09-18-2013, 09:47 AM
After our first game against Baltimore in 2011, I thought we did a poor job matching up our corners on their WRs. Jjo on Bolden, Kj on Torrey Smith.

I like Kj, y'all know that. But he can't run with Torrey Smith. Jjo on the other hand doesn't have the strength to go one on one with Anquan Bolden.

The second time we played them, we flipped it & did a better job against the pass.


This year, there is no Bolden. Looks like Torrey Smith (who is off to a slow start this year) & Marlon Brown. I think Kj is a better player than he was in 2011, but still not in Torrey Smith's class as far as speed is concerned. Torrey & Kj both ran 4.4 forties, but Kareem doesn't play that fast.

Marlon Brown does. He's not only fast, but quick. I'd start the game with Jjo on Smith & see if Kareem can muscle the rookie out of the play. If that doesn't work, we'll probably incorporate more help on his side of the field.

thunderkyss
09-18-2013, 09:54 AM
Just realized, this is a homecoming for Ben Tate.

thunderkyss
09-18-2013, 09:58 AM
The Ravens' fans (http://russellstreetreport.com/forum/showthread.php?112153-Texans-this-week&p=666311#post666311) seem to know us pretty well.

Here's the way I see it...

Schaub is widely derided by Houston fans (well, at least the one I used to work with who lives there). He's got a tremendous cast around him, but still makes bonehead plays. The case is really what worries me....

Let's start with the thing that gives us the most fits...TEs. Houston has one of the upper echelon ones in Daniels. They also have a guy who has 2 TDs in the first 2 weeks, Garrett Graham. We haven't had to face TWO strong TEs yet this year, but one strong one has given us fits each week. Combined with that, they have a strong tandem of outside WRs in AJ and Nuk Hopkins. Our secondary HAS to be ready to play with the big boys here. You can't slip versus these 4 targets, they will make you play.

With that being said, you have to worry a lot about the Houston rushing attack. Foster is still playing well, and Tate was a beast this week too. With so much heat in their passing game, we have to rely on the front 7 to do a lot of the work on stopping the run. Dumervil had a fantastic game vs Browns, but he may play limited snaps vs Houston, as I'm betting we'll have Upshaw out there to contain the edge. Hoping that Brandon Williams is on the path to getting better, because if he and Canty are both out, that leaves a pretty gaping hole at DE. Would be Spears and Jones, with Tyson to fill in. Yikes.

On the defensive side, Texans have the #4 total defense in YPG, #3 vs the pass. This comes in a week when we expect Rice will be limited or unavailable. ****. Obviously, worried about JJ Watt on the edge (Remember last year, he batted down a ton of Flacco balls at the line), but maybe more concerning is Cushing up the middle against a struggling interior line. Gradkowski and KO vs Cushing? Oh crap.

I'd consider going TE-less and just bringing in Wagner as a blocker on a heavy dose of plays to chip. Our TEs are doing next to nothing anyway in the passing game, and they both also suck as blockers.

On paper, this could be a pretty brutal game. Sorry to be less than optimistic here...

However, intangibles wise, you couldn't pick a better game for the Ravens. Having Ray go into the ROH, having Reed come back, HAS to fire up both sides of the ball a little extra, especially combined with the sluggish start.
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09-18-2013, 10:23 AM
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Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26
Texans Kareem Jackson fined $42,000 for his hit on receiver Kendall Wright. He'll appeal. League's explanation for fine: ...for "forcibly hitting the defenseless player's head or neck area with the helmet, face mask, forearm or shoulder."


Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Jackson also said a hit like that is worth the risk because there's a chance no flag comes out and maybe the guy fumbles. #Texans

When I asked Kareem Jackson about the hit Sunday he said the flag and even a potential fine wouldn't change the way he played. #Texans
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Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26
John Harbaugh asked if Baltimore knew Ed Reed had hip issue when he signed w/ Texans: 'Ed's had a hip issue for about 4 years that we dealt with"

John Harbaugh asked if they have to adjust because JJ Watt gets into the passing lane so quickly: "Oh gosh, yeah. You really can't believe it until you see it"

Ravens QB Joe Flacco on if safety Ed Reed plays: "It'll definitely be a little weird to see him in a Texans uniform."

Ravens QB Joe Flacco asked if he would be surprised if Ed Reed didn't play against them: "I'm hearing he's going to play. So I guess so."
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
Harbaugh says Ray Rice doesn't really need to practice this week to play against #Texans. When asked how offense changes without Rice, "We'll see"

Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun
He also said WR Andre Johnson (concussion) "should be ready to go" and LT Duane Brown (toe) will be "end of week decision."

Texans coach Gary Kubiak said that Ed Reed is "as close to playing as [he] has been."

thunderkyss
09-18-2013, 11:52 AM
On defense the Ravens (http://russellstreetreport.com/terrell-suggs-lets-not-kid-ourselves/) have talent that dwarfs that of last season. Of course there’s better depth, vital to enduring the grind of the long season. But a quick look around the starting 11 reveals a rather significant upgrade.
Chris Canty, Marcus Spears and Brandon Williams are substantial improvements over the 2012 rotation that included a starter, one year removed from football and from tipping the scales at 400+, Ma’ake Kemoeatu. Elvis Dumervil is a more accomplished edge rusher than Paul Kruger and the 2013 version of Jimmy Smith is on the rise.
And let’s be honest, Daryl Smith is an upgrade over the 2012 version of Ray Lewis.
The defense is also healthier as defensive coordinator Dean Pees fields 3 Pro Bowl caliber players who were either lost or severely slowed by injury in 2012, namely Lardarius Webb, Haloti Ngata and Terrell Suggs.
This unit just needs a little time to gel.

Even if the Ravens lose (that’s what I suspect will happen), all isn’t lost if they make positive strides against a quality opponent.
It’s all about improvement while managing the season, remaining in the mix and then punching their ticket to the postseason dance.
Success in the NFL isn’t about who is the best team in September. It’s all about embracing the grind and steady improvement. It’s all about being the best during the playoffs.


Perhaps Terrell Suggs said it best as he cautioned the team following the win over the Browns.
“Let’s not kid ourselves…we’ve got some work to do.”



I think they've got the right mindset. & they know better than anyone.... it's about January & February.

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09-18-2013, 01:38 PM
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Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Dennison says one can see Hopkins make a spectacular play one or two times a practice. #Texans

Rick Dennison says consistency is where Hopkins continues to get better. #Texans

"Consistency he's getting better and better at that," Dennison says on DeAndre Hopkins. #Texans

Dennison is asked if he sits down and picks Ed Reed's brain about the Ravens D. Reply: "Well (pause) we do our work." #Texans

Kubiak said Ed Reed told him he felt like he could play against the Titans. #Texans

"It's hard to say your punter's a weapon, but he is," Kubiak on Lechler. #Texans #puntersarepeopletoo

Owen Daniels didn't practice today, Kubiak says. Rest day for him. #Texans

Kubiak says with Duane Brown out, they needed some big bodies on the practice squad to explain bringing in a TE. #Texans

Kubiak impressed with DeAndre Hopkins' practice today. "Posey's very very close to being himself," Kubiak says. #Texans

As has been the case pretty much every practice, Kubiak says Reed has done the most he's done at practice thus far today. #Texans

As long as Johnson doesn't have a setback, Kubiak says he'll practice with pads tomorrow. #Texans

Besides Andre Johnson and Duane Brown, Kubiak says all practiced. #Texans
Drew Dougherty ‏@DoughertyDrew
Dennison: Brandon Brooks, Derek Newton have improved a lot, have done everything we've asked. #Texans

OC Rick Dennison: backup OT Ryan Harris has worked at LT and RT. We have confidence in him. #Texans
Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
Dennison (on Schaub's strength): Coming from behind. His mental toughness has been great. He has been working his tail off every second.

Dennison (on Hopkins): It's his consistency. He works very hard in practice. He's improving everyday. #Texans

Dennison (on TEs): It creates a great deal of flexibility the addition of Graham alongside Owen. #Texans
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL

I think Johnson will play but Brown won't. As far as Reed, I'm clueless, as we all are. We'll see him when we see him.

LT Duane Brown is the biggest concern. I don't see how a player with turf toe wearing a walking boot will play and risk making it worse.

Andre Johnson should play against the Ravens. Everyone, including his teammates and coaches, say he's doing very well.

Kubiak is always extra cautious when letting players return from major injury. Players have 2 show him on practice field they're 100 percent

Last week, Reed said he was still breaking own scar tissue in his hip and still had soreness, which means he wasn't going to play.

Nobody has a clue about Ed Reed's status for Sunday. If Reed says he's ready and shows them he is on the field, he'll play.

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09-18-2013, 09:59 PM
'Sound FX': J.J. Watt vs. Titans (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Sound-FX-JJ-Watt-vs-Titans/)

Catch the best sights and sounds from the Houston Texans overtime win over the Tennessee Titans in Week 2 with "Sound FX" including J.J. Watt wired for sound.

CloakNNNdagger
09-18-2013, 10:02 PM
damn i forgot visiting team goes on the left and home on the right :vincepalm:

Great pic! MSR.

HJam72
09-19-2013, 09:47 AM
Reed did as much on his off day Monday as he has ever done on one of his off days. :koolaid:

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09-19-2013, 09:59 AM
Reed did as much on his off day Monday as he has ever done on one of his off days. :koolaid:

Good teams' players have good off days. :kitten:

Fico
09-19-2013, 10:01 AM
No D.Brown is worrisome. Our pass pro hasn't been great with him in the lineup, so that may not be to horribly different. He has moved people in the running game and I am not sure that Harris can.

El Tejano
09-19-2013, 10:10 AM
Greg Gumbel, Dan Dierdorf will be calling Texans @Ravens on CBS.

News/notes/comments/etc.

This means we will hear Dan Dierdorf masturbate to Joe Flacco, even if he throws an incomplete or int.

I'm gonna just listen to the radio and turn the TV volume to mute.

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09-19-2013, 02:25 PM
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Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Phillips says San Diego's center went toward JJ Watt constantly because Antonio Smith was out. Watt got less attention from Titans. #Texans

"There are guys in the league who are way ahead of Cush and I know they're not," Wade Phillips on tackle stats. #Texans

Press box tackle stats annoy Wade Phillips becaues they aren't accurate. "One team in the league has 66 assists and we have 10." #Texans

Phillips says he was encouraged by last week. "We still haven't given up 300 yards in a game," Wade Phillips. #Texans

James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN

Reed said he wanted to play last week so his first game wouldn't be on turf. #texans

Ed Reed says he's trying to push it full throttle. Added he's a game time decision. #texans

"Those great ones still make plays." - Phillips on JJ Watt and Adrian Peterson making plays even after teams are well aware of them. #Texans.

Wade Phillips says "Press Box Stats" bother him. Says assists are judged really poorly."If I were a player I'd be upset about it." #Texans

Wade Phillips says obviously Ed Reed won't play a full game once he comes back. Added he's made some "Ball Hawk" plays this week. #Texans

Garrett Graham sat out practice after his hip started bothering him yesterday. Same hip that he injured in the preseason. #Texans

Kubiak says Arian Foster is now starting to look like himself. Says "He's a worker" but added that how good Tate has played has helped AF

Kubiak is sticking with Duane Brown and Ed Reed as game time decisions. #Texans

Andre Johnson is set to see an #NFL Doc in the next 24 hours. After that he should be cleared to play Sunday against #Ravens. #Texans

Ed Reed was in pads today. Kubiak says this is the most aggressive they've used him and says he's really practicing well right now. #TExans

Duane Brown and Garrett Graham didn't practice. Andre Johnson practiced in full. #Texans
Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
Phillips says how the number of tackles and assists is an unofficial and inconsistent stat. Thinks Cushing has more and should be ranked higher.

HOU-TEX
09-19-2013, 02:49 PM
I thought this was kinda funny considering who's saying it.. The Coach, Vonta Oher and Yanda all talk about how good of a player Watt is and how they'll just block him the best they can. Then, Flacco chimes in at the end saying you have to be physical with him.

Vonta:
"J.J.'s got a high motor and is a big, strong powerful guy who's very athletic and causes a lot of disruption," Pro Bowl fullback Vonta Leach said. "He makes a lot of plays from the backside and the front side. He's a handful to block."

Yanda:
"We all know who he is, he's a great football player,"
"He's got all the necessary tools and obviously all the moves. He swats the ball down, which is another thing to try to defend against. You try to block him to the best of your ability."

Oher:
"He's athletic, big and strong and knows how to play football," Oher said. "We definitely have to account for him."

Coach:
"He's hard to block in the run game, when you run at him, when you run away from him. He’s hard to block when you try to pass-block him. He bats balls, he gets sacks. He’s just a very dominant-type defensive player.”

And Flacco:
"You’ve got to get your hands on him. I think if you do that, that’s when you’re giving yourself the best chance. If you’re not
physical with him and you basically don’t play football, then obviously he’s going to have his day and have his way

"But you’ve just got to try to be as physical as you can with him and stay under control so he doesn’t swim over you or dodge you left or right. He’s a good player. He’s going to do his thing, but we’ve just got to make sure we’re as physical as possible and limit his chances.”

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ravens-bracing-for-another-encounter-with-jj-watt-20130919,0,3545522.story

PapaL
09-19-2013, 03:21 PM
Flacco should just throw an INT to Ed Reed as soon as he enters the game. Get it out the way early.

TheMatrix31
09-19-2013, 05:16 PM
Oh great, they're inducting Lewis into their Ring of Honor?

Great. Sick of running into teams running on this emotional bull****.

I hope we destroy them and ruin the occasion.

Tailgate
09-19-2013, 06:07 PM
Question is, how do we fare with Newton and Harris going up against Suggs and Dumervil? Our O-line is going to have their hands full and the Ravens are going to give us everything we can handle. I sure hope our D is ready, because I honestly see a rough time for our O.

Walter football have the Ravens as the pick of the month.

http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks2013_03early.php

thunderkyss
09-19-2013, 07:36 PM
Question is, how do we fare with Newton and Harris going up against Suggs and Dumervil? Our O-line is going to have their hands full and the Ravens are going to give us everything we can handle. I sure hope our D is ready, because I honestly see a rough time for our O.

Walter football have the Ravens as the pick of the month.

http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks2013_03early.php

It would go a long way if we can establish the run early, forcing Dumervil to become a spectator from the sideline.

Tailgate
09-20-2013, 07:00 AM
It would go a long way if we can establish the run early, forcing Dumervil to become a spectator from the sideline.

With Brown out I just dont see us establishing the run like we want. This Balty D is starting to round into form, and will be nothing like we saw against Manning week 1.

This game is all on Schaub.

thunderkyss
09-20-2013, 07:32 AM
With Brown out I just dont see us establishing the run like we want. This Balty D is starting to round into form, and will be nothing like we saw against Manning week 1.

This game is all on Schaub.

If we can't run against their front, we're not going to be able to protect Matt Schaub worth a damm. Dumervil isn't very good against the run.... he's pretty good at rushing the passer. If we're running the ball well, they'll take him off the field.

:thinking:

ChampionTexan
09-20-2013, 07:49 AM
With Brown out I just dont see us establishing the run like we want. This Balty D is starting to round into form, and will be nothing like we saw against Manning week 1.

This game is all on Schaub.

I realize most on this board are saying he should be out, and maybe they're right, but have the Texans said he's out?

Tailgate
09-20-2013, 07:55 AM
I realize most on this board are saying he should be out, and maybe they're right, but have the Texans said he's out?

No, just an assumption on my part.

Dread-Head
09-20-2013, 12:03 PM
Is there going to be a watch party?

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09-20-2013, 01:27 PM
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Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
Through two games in 2013, Houston Texans defense has forced three-and-outs on 16-of-20 drives. #Texans

Andre on Pollard: I haven't had a chance to talk to him. I wanted to after the game. I don't think he was intentionally trying to hurt me.

Andre Johnson says Ed Reed hasn't changed at all since college, except for hair. "He used to have braids." #Texans pic.twitter.com/qVzZIzGOxY

Johnson: Every player will experience that "welcome to the NFL" hit. As for himself, "I'm pretty sure it won't be the last time." #Texans

Andre Johnson thinks the new concussion protocol is "great" because it really evaluates if players ready to return to game. #Texans
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
I reminded Kubiak he previously said Ed Reed wouldn't start in his first game back. He replied that he doesn't remember saying that. #Texans

If Ed Reed is ready to go, Ed Reed will start Sunday against the Ravens. #Texans

Kubiak calls Ed Reed a game-time decision. He doesn't know if a workout Sunday morning will be a difference. #Texans

Kubiak says Duane Brown didn't practice but will still be a game-time decision. Andre Johnson has been fully cleared. #Texans
Dale Robertson ‏@sportywineguy

Johnson on Pollard: "I didn’t see a big deal with it. It was a hit. I don’t think he was intentionally trying to hurt me.." #Texans

Doctor told him it wasn't really a concussion. #Texans

Andre makes it very clear: He's not mad at Bernard Pollard and doesn't think Pollard was trrying to injure him. #Texans

Shiloh Keo says he's not surprised Reed will start. He expected that., obviously. But, "as a competitor" he's "disappointed.." #Texans

Arian Foster declined to discuss admitting he took money in college. A quiet lockerroom today.. #Texans

Ed Reed declined to talk about Kubiak saying he'll start if he's ready to play. Reed only talks with the media on Fridays., #Texans

Reed has gone full speed with a full load for the last two practices. Ed Reed will start if he can go - Kubiak. #Texans
Drew Dougherty ‏@DoughertyDrew
Johnson: Hopkins and those young guys are capable of what you saw them do on Sunday. #Texans

Johnson: I wanted to come back into game. #Texans

Johnson: never lost consciousness. When head hit ground, got blurry, got a headache. Know exactly what happened. #Texans

Johnson: Don't really have a problem with Pollard's hit. Part of the game. #Texans

Andre Johnson at podium now. Said he's "fine". #Texans

Kubiak: K Randy Bullock is fine. Kicked well yesterday. We expect him to do that on Sunday too. #Texans

Kubiak: we've kept Duane Brown in a boot for the most part. Kept him inside w/trainers while we've practiced. #Texans

Kubiak: I have a lot of confidence in Ryan Harris. He's got a big challenge on his hands, if he's the guy who plays at LT. #Texans

Playoffs
09-20-2013, 02:10 PM
http://themeatlockersports.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/john-clayton.png

John Clayton says "barring some kind of miracle I think Ray Rice is going to be out against Houston."

76Texan
09-20-2013, 07:18 PM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/09/20/3tfo-texans-ravens-week-3/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=3tfo-texans-ravens-week-3

11.5 combined sacks/hurries/hits for Dummervil and Suggs per game.
Can Harris and Newton hold them below their average?

thunderkyss
09-20-2013, 08:21 PM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/09/20/3tfo-texans-ravens-week-3/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=3tfo-texans-ravens-week-3

11.5 combined sacks/hurries/hits for Dummervil and Suggs per game.
Can Harris and Newton hold them below their average?

If we have a good day running the ball..... shouldn't be a problem.

CloakNNNdagger
09-20-2013, 10:45 PM
I just came across a somewhat disturbing Texans stat...........after 2 games, the Texans D ranks last in total tackles!

drs23
09-20-2013, 11:11 PM
I just came across a somewhat disturbing Texans stat...........after 2 games, the Texans D ranks last in total tackles!

Yeah, ask Wade what he thinks about that.

“You’re getting into my pet peeve here about tackles because, when they show them in the league, they show this guy makes this many tackles, and Cushing’s 33rd in tackle or something like that,” Phillips said. “But those are press box stats, which really bothers me. We’ve played two games and they count individual tackles, which I think they’re pretty close on, but assists are so far off and the total tackles makes it look like one guys and another guy, it’s like Cush, he’s got two assists. He’s got more of that on our account.

LINK (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Wade-Phillips-has-a-pet-peeve-when-it-comes-to-stats/f49a93fd-24b7-4c84-ba32-c47e1f30603e)

This was posted in another thread.

infantrycak
09-20-2013, 11:21 PM
I just came across a somewhat disturbing Texans stat...........after 2 games, the Texans D ranks last in total tackles!

Well if 17 of 20 defensive drives end up as 3 and outs, what is the problem?

Seems kind of like complaining a pitcher only had 9 pitches in getting 3 strikeouts.

Playoffs
09-20-2013, 11:25 PM
I just came across a somewhat disturbing Texans stat...........after 2 games, the Texans D ranks last in total tackles!There are lies, damn lies, and statistics...

Wade Phillips has a pet peeve when it comes to stats (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Wade-Phillips-has-a-pet-peeve-when-it-comes-to-stats/f49a93fd-24b7-4c84-ba32-c47e1f30603e)

“You’re getting into my pet peeve here about tackles because, when they show them in the league, they show this guy makes this many tackles, and Cushing’s 33rd in tackle or something like that,” Phillips said. “But those are press box stats, which really bothers me. We’ve played two games and they count individual tackles, which I think they’re pretty close on, but assists are so far off and the total tackles makes it look like one guys and another guy, it’s like Cush, he’s got two assists. He’s got more of that on our account.

"I’ll give you an example, one team in the league has 66 assists and we have 10 and another team has 60. There are two teams that have only two assists in two games. What I’m saying is the press box at whatever game, Indianapolis has played two games at home and they’ve had 77 tackles and 66 assists, and the teams they’ve played have had 80 tackles and 50 assists in those two games. It makes it look like those teams’ players are making a lot more plays and it also makes us look like we don’t have people running to the ball and getting to the ball. ”

Wade's rant ended something like this:

That’s bothers me that they put out yardage, touchdown passes and all of those things, and those are accurate," Phillips said. "But those assists are not accurate and, if I were a player, I would be upset about it because it looks like, wow, this guy is leading the league in tackling when you may have just as many tackles.”

In a nutshell, league awards are based on statistics and Phillips feels that his players are being shortchanged. Total tackles are being skewed by an inaccurate count of tackle assists.

ChampionTexan
09-20-2013, 11:30 PM
I just came across a somewhat disturbing Texans stat...........after 2 games, the Texans D ranks last in total tackles!

That's meaningless, and it's a combination of two factors.

First, the Texans currently have the fifth fewest defensive plays from scrimmage in the NFL at 118. That compares to a league low of 101 (Seattle). and a league high of 165 (Buffalo). Fewer defensive plays from scrimmage, fewer tackles.

Second (and this is what really makes it meaningless) is that there is no consistency whatsoever in keeping stats for assisted tackles. I don't know if it's the team, the league, or a local media member (ala Major League Baseball) who keeps them, but they're all over the board. For example, of the Texans 103 tackles, 91 are listed as solo, and 12 are "assists". Compare that to Indy who has 77 solo tackles, and 66 "assists" for a total of 143 tackles. Now that could be just an anomaly of the numbers until you realize that the Indy defense has run 129 plays from scrimmage for the year, so they basically have 14 more tackles than plays run. Buffalo has 184 tackles with only 165 defensive plays from scirmmage. To put this in perspective, only two teams have fewer "assists" than the Texans (Arizona and St. Louis with 2 apiece), and the top of the "assists" list is Indy with those 77.

Lastly, two of the other bottom 5 teams in tackles are Seattle and Cincinnati, so we're in pretty good company in that regard.

CloakNNNdagger
09-20-2013, 11:43 PM
Well if 17 of 20 defensive drives end up as 3 and outs, what is the problem?

Seems kind of like complaining a pitcher only had 9 pitches in getting 3 strikeouts.

I doubt that this is likely the explanation.

San Diego in their 2 games have had 22 total drives and 6 three and outs.
Tennessee in their 2 games have had 24 total drives and 10 three and outs


Came across this interesting website that CHARTS stats........sort of fun to play around with. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/teams/325/houston-texans/#total-tackles-tackles

infantrycak
09-21-2013, 12:01 AM
I doubt that this is likely the explanation.

San Diego in their 2 games have had 22 total drives and 6 three and outs.
Tennessee in their 2 games have had 24 total drives and 10 three and outs

I am not sure what that is supposed to show or refute in what I said. That would appear to be that those two teams have combined for less 3 and outs. As ChampionTexan points out we have less plays than most which is consistent.

His point about the somewhat random awarding of assists is valid as well. This has come up before. DeMeco Ryans' rookie year Zach Thomas beat him out for leading the league in tackles on the back of 32 extra assists even though he had 22 less solos.

thunderkyss
09-21-2013, 07:57 AM
That's meaningless, and it's a combination of two factors.

First, the Texans currently have the fifth fewest defensive plays from scrimmage in the NFL at 118. That compares to a league low of 101 (Seattle). and a league high of 165 (Buffalo). Fewer defensive plays from scrimmage, fewer tackles.

Second (and this is what really makes it meaningless) is that there is no consistency whatsoever in keeping stats for assisted tackles. I don't know if it's the team, the league, or a local media member (ala Major League Baseball) who keeps them, but they're all over the board. For example, of the Texans 103 tackles, 91 are listed as solo, and 12 are "assists". Compare that to Indy who has 77 solo tackles, and 66 "assists" for a total of 143 tackles. Now that could be just an anomaly of the numbers until you realize that the Indy defense has run 129 plays from scrimmage for the year, so they basically have 14 more tackles than plays run. Buffalo has 184 tackles with only 165 defensive plays from scirmmage. To put this in perspective, only two teams have fewer "assists" than the Texans (Arizona and St. Louis with 2 apiece), and the top of the "assists" list is Indy with those 77.

Lastly, two of the other bottom 5 teams in tackles are Seattle and Cincinnati, so we're in pretty good company in that regard.

msr


Good stuff, keep it coming

thunderkyss
09-21-2013, 08:00 AM
His point about the somewhat random awarding of assists is valid as well. This has come up before. DeMeco Ryans' rookie year Zach Thomas beat him out for leading the league in tackles on the back of 32 extra assists even though he had 22 less solos.

We're like the Texas Rangers. One riot... one ranger.

Our defensive players are better tacklers than everyone elses... that's all that stat tells me.

TejasTom
09-21-2013, 08:32 AM
Incomplete passes count for 0 tackles.

brakos82
09-21-2013, 09:32 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Mpp0vb3.png

Playoffs
09-21-2013, 12:12 PM
Marc Vandermeer ‏@TexansVoice
About to take off with the Texans. Sad that D. Brown is out, snaps 78 game start streak. Enter Ryan Harris (36 career starts). Go Texans!
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
I love Baltimore. What a great city. Harbor is booming with Texans and West Virginia fans. Mountaineers play Terps at Ravens stadium.

I think Ed Reed is going to make his debut. I think he'll start and get relief from Shiloh Keo.

Ryan Harris will be blocking Terrell Suggs most of the time. He will need some help.

Ryan Harris started 2 games for Texans last year and 35 during Broncos career.

LT Duane Brown out with toe injury. Will be replaced by Ryan Harris vs. Ravens.

Daravenator
09-21-2013, 12:18 PM
Not looking forward to a great game from the Ravens offense. WR play is nowhere near last year, TE's are non-existant, and now no Rice?

Unless the Ravens D pitches a shutout, I do not see much good in this matchup tomorrow.

The Pencil Neck
09-21-2013, 12:43 PM
I just came across a somewhat disturbing Texans stat...........after 2 games, the Texans D ranks last in total tackles!

Why is that disturbing? If you're making a lot of tackles, it means the offenses you're facing are making a lot of plays. Fewer tackles can mean a lot of things including that you have fewer opportunities because you're getting the other team off the field and your own offense is holding onto the ball.

Everyone's talking about the number of offensive plays, well we're tied with New England at this point for the 2nd highest number of offensive plays per game. Because of that stat, our defense has faced the 5th fewest defensive plays behind the Seahawks, Saints, Raiders (?), and Bengals.

That's a good stat.

Playoffs
09-21-2013, 12:46 PM
Not looking forward to a great game from the Ravens offense. WR play is nowhere near last year, TE's are non-existant, and now no Rice?

Unless the Ravens D pitches a shutout, I do not see much good in this matchup tomorrow.

Hey, D... what's up with Arthur Brown? A few of us felt sure we would have selected him one pick after you took him. Why wasn't he starting before the injury?

Daravenator
09-21-2013, 01:00 PM
Hey, D... what's up with Arthur Brown? A few of us felt sure we would have selected him one pick after you took him. Why wasn't he starting before the injury?

My opinion is that they did not want to start a rookie LB right off the bat unless absolutely needed, and in Brown's case, it wasn't after they signed Daryl Smith, leaving Bynes at Lt InLB and Smith at Rt In/LB. Brown has a pectoral strain after the Cleveland game, so he is listed as questionable at this time.

I think he will eventually start during this season barring additional injury.

Playoffs
09-21-2013, 05:12 PM
http://themeatlockersports.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/john-clayton.png

John Clayton says "barring some kind of miracle I think Ray Rice is going to be out against Houston."And John Clayton was right, Ray Rice is out vs. Texans.

Bernard Pierce will replace Rice, and should not be overlooked. Typically has good games.

I think he will eventually start during this season barring additional injury.Ahh, okay.

DocBar
09-21-2013, 10:03 PM
Looking like we're starting this early:

What is status of Duane Brown...? (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2211747#post2211747)


http://cbskilt2.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/next-man-up-stop-2-69.jpg

Ryan Harris? Nate Menkin? Andrew Gardner?OK, the old fat man is in luv. Who are these chicks?

handswarmer
09-21-2013, 11:19 PM
Turf toe turns great players to average players.

Hip flexor not turf toe

thunderkyss
09-22-2013, 12:26 AM
Hip flexor not turf toe

Speaking of which, you still think Flacco is elite?

Looks like he turned back into a pumpkin like I said he would..... Cam Cameron/Jim Caldwell.. it don't matter. Ed will be Ed, Joe's gone be Joe.


Great play offs, I won't deny. Best ever... arguably. But that's Joe, that's been Joe & he's pretty darn average in the regular season.

hradhak
09-22-2013, 07:24 AM
Speaking of which, you still think Flacco is elite?

Looks like he turned back into a pumpkin like I said he would..... Cam Cameron/Jim Caldwell.. it don't matter. Ed will be Ed, Joe's gone be Joe.


Great play offs, I won't deny. Best ever... arguably. But that's Joe, that's been Joe & he's pretty darn average in the regular season.

He looks average because he has the Matt Schaub problem from 2-3 years ago. Jacoby is his #2 WR :dancer:

Daravenator
09-22-2013, 07:29 AM
Speaking of which, you still think Flacco is elite?

Looks like he turned back into a pumpkin like I said he would..... Cam Cameron/Jim Caldwell.. it don't matter. Ed will be Ed, Joe's gone be Joe.


Great play offs, I won't deny. Best ever... arguably. But that's Joe, that's been Joe & he's pretty darn average in the regular season.

It helps if you have WR's and TE's that can catch. Look at the film of the first two games and see how many balls were dropped by Clark, Dickson (whatta bum he's turning out to be) and others.

Look, Flacco ain't no Peyton, who can make an average WR look like an All-Pro, but if he has good hands at WR and TE, he's better than most NFL QB's. His record speaks for itself.

HJam72
09-22-2013, 07:44 AM
OK, the old fat man is in luv. Who are these chicks?

I don't know, but those T-shirts would like mighty inviting on them.

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2013, 08:20 AM
Hip flexor not turf toe

?????????????

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2013, 08:22 AM
He looks average because he has the Matt Schaub problem from 2-3 years ago. Jacoby is his #2 WR :dancer:

Now without JJ.

DX-TEX
09-22-2013, 08:26 AM
?????????????

Ray Rice

Playoffs
09-22-2013, 08:57 AM
OK, the old fat man is in luv. Who are these chicks?

Don't know, Google images -- but I hear they're into 43 year old fat men... with money. ;)

DocBar
09-22-2013, 09:43 AM
Don't know, Google images -- but I hear they're into 43 year old fat men... with money. ;)giddyup!!!!

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 10:12 AM
Speaking of which, you still think Flacco is elite?

Looks like he turned back into a pumpkin like I said he would..... Cam Cameron/Jim Caldwell.. it don't matter. Ed will be Ed, Joe's gone be Joe.


Great play offs, I won't deny. Best ever... arguably. But that's Joe, that's been Joe & he's pretty darn average in the regular season.

What is elite? Manning and Brady are 1a and 1b or interchangeable.

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees throw it all over the place for 300+ yds a week, but they have the same # of SB's as Joe.

Schaub, Luck, Stafford, etc are awesome Fantasy Football QB's but have yet to find post-season success.

Joe tied Montana's record for 11 TDs and 0 INTS in the playoffs- different year, different WR. Team is finding its identity still.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 10:15 AM
. But that's Joe, that's been Joe & he's pretty darn average in the regular season.

Regular season is one thing- playoffs another. compare Schaub and Joe in reg season- Schaub wins. Compare post season- Joe wins

and that's where its most important...

Playoffs
09-22-2013, 10:30 AM
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL
Ed Reed is starting against the Ravens

TdotTexas2Step
09-22-2013, 11:31 AM
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL

We all knew he wouldn't miss this one.

bckey
09-22-2013, 11:44 AM
I'm predicting the Texans will lose 3 out of the next 5 games and Kubiak will make Bullock team captain to boost his confidence. :kitten:

EllisUnit
09-22-2013, 11:50 AM
Regular season is one thing- playoffs another. compare Schaub and Joe in reg season- Schaub wins. Compare post season- Joe wins

and that's where its most important...

To be fair Schaub has only played 2 play off games, he's 1-1 in those. He was hurt the season before.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 12:00 PM
To be fair Schaub has only played 2 play off games, he's 1-1 in those. He was hurt the season before.

True but I don't see him as a "Put a team on his shoulders qb"

DocBar
09-22-2013, 12:12 PM
True but I don't see him as a "Put a team on his shoulders qb"Schaub has taken the team on his shoulders a few times but more often than not, he's folded under pressure.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 03:11 PM
Schaub has taken the team on his shoulders a few times but more often than not, he's folded under pressure.

As he did today

Tailgate
09-22-2013, 03:12 PM
With Brown out I just dont see us establishing the run like we want. This Balty D is starting to round into form, and will be nothing like we saw against Manning week 1.

This game is all on Schaub.

Schaub :(

thunderkyss
09-22-2013, 04:04 PM
True but I don't see him as a "Put a team on his shoulders qb"

See... this is where you & I couldn't agree last season. Flacco played well. But he didn't put anyone on his shoulders. Stats are going to be stats, so don't recite them to me. Boldin played his butt off, Jacoby bailed Flacco out, & that goal line stop by your defense was huge.

If we get that kind of performance from our defense, our WRs, & hopefully Arian, we'll win a Super Bowl. Expecting Matt to win one, or Flacco for that matter, with no help from the defense, Special Teams, or his offensive play-makers is just unrealistic.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 04:09 PM
See... this is where you & I couldn't agree last season. Flacco played well. But he didn't put anyone on his shoulders. Stats are going to be stats, so don't recite them to me. Boldin played his butt off, Jacoby bailed Flacco out, & that goal line stop by your defense was huge.

If we get that kind of performance from our defense, our WRs, & hopefully Arian, we'll win a Super Bowl. Expecting Matt to win one, or Flacco for that matter, with no help from the defense, Special Teams, or his offensive play-makers is just unrealistic.

The game vs Denver in the playoffs was a good example of Joe and his play.

No QB literally wins a game by himself. Flacco won a game today by sacking up with only 1 pass catcher from last year and crapping run game- ST and Defensive pick 6 not withstanding.

But I will say this- maybe we should say "Doesn't fold under pressure and does his job" instead of "Puts a team on his shoulders"???

thunderkyss
09-22-2013, 04:28 PM
But I will say this- maybe we should say "Doesn't fold under pressure and does his job" instead of "Puts a team on his shoulders"???

I can get behind that. His toughness is very impressive. That hit to the chin he took today... I thought that was going to help us more than it did.

handswarmer
09-22-2013, 05:56 PM
I can get behind that. His toughness is very impressive. That hit to the chin he took today... I thought that was going to help us more than it did.

Agreed then. No more PATOHS- Put A Team On His Shoulders.

yes that was impressive- Joe doesn't get a lot of those calls- he gets pretty beaten up in the pocket.

Playoffs
09-23-2013, 03:51 PM
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Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
"Well, they battled. They battled some good players. We can help them," Kubiak on offensive tackles Ryan Harris and Derek Newton.

"We had issues with pressure outside and inside so obviously it wasn't just in one spot," Kubiak says on protecting Schaub. #Texans

Kubiak calls the #Texans defensive first half exceptional. Says second half they played poorly as a team offensively and defensively.

LT Duane Brown practiced on the field with the trainers but Kubiak still thinks he will be day-to-day. #Texans

Andre Johnson is doing better, Kubiak says, he has a shin bruise and will be day to day. #Texans
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
Kubiak on Ed Reed: "He played about 40 plays. He came out of it without any soreness. We saw what we wanted to see from Ed."

Kubiak: "We have to find a way to play four quarters."

Kubiak: "We have to find a way to get the ball down the field. We've got get some consistency and make mistakes."

Kubiak: "We struggled to get the ball down the field cause of pass rush."

Kubiak: "We responded to adversity the first two weeks, but we didn't respond (against Baltimore)."

Texans set team record with 14 penalties against Ravens.

Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans
We set a franchise record for penalties. When you do that, you're not gonna win, especially on the road against a good team. -Kubiak #Texans
Deepi Sidhu ‏@DeepSlant
Kubiak on the punt return for TD: Our coverage was exactly the same the 1 before, we just had 3 missed tackles on that one. "Inexcusable."
James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
Gary Kubiak says Ed Reed is the starter at S. Said Reed came out of game feeling healthy and moved around well. Worked out today. #Texans

Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro
Kubiak said Ed Reed didn't come out of the game sore. #Texans

Kubiak said the team looked frustrated in the second half when talking about penalties.

"It's a new week and obviously a great opponent coming in here." - Kubiak