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Rey
09-08-2013, 05:59 AM
Kerry Rhodes hasn't officially come out I don't think, but I'm pretty sure he's gay. He's not a bad player. Unless there is some injury or attitude stuff I don't know about, why can't he get a job?

thunderkyss
09-08-2013, 08:42 AM
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ktujh98rad8jpg/k-bigpic.jpg

Whoa..... I liked him when he was drafted & played with the Jets. I thought he was going to be the next "great" safety. Then when he went to Arizona I thought he would be a fine replacement for Adrian Wilson, but stopped "watching" him.

I don't know if he ever really developed. But his numbers have been declining since his rookie season. Stats for a safety really miss a whole lot, but without watching him for the last 3 or 4 years, I can't say.

But the numbers alone are probably good enough reason for him to be unemployed. I mean I've never seen a safety with those numbers that played well enough to start. & if he's not a starter he's JAG...

Lucky
09-08-2013, 10:04 AM
Rhodes was a starter in 2012 and had 4 ints. While he is 31, you have to assume Rhodes has something left. It could be that Rhodes hasn't received an offer he deemed acceptable, We don't even know if he wants to come back and answer questions. Essentially, we don't know why Rhodes isn't in the league right now. But the least likely reason is that all of the 32 teams think Rhodes can't play.

Vinny
09-08-2013, 10:44 AM
in Rex Ryan's book he called him "a selfish-ass guy," and said that he didn't like to work. I think that has more to do with his not signing than anything else. Lazy 32 year old players are not what teams are usually looking for.

thunderkyss
09-08-2013, 12:14 PM
Is Brandon Lloyd gay?

Playoffs
09-08-2013, 12:48 PM
Is Brandon Lloyd gay?

He's a total PITA to deal with. Some team will be forced to sign him, but you're seeing coaches less willing to deal with f'ed up personalities.

chicagotexan2
09-08-2013, 12:58 PM
Is Brandon Lloyd gay?

Is Vince young gay? Doubt it, I think sexuality (other than being a pedophile) is the least of a players baggage.

Rey
09-08-2013, 01:27 PM
I read that Rhodes went in and worked out for the bengals some time after all those pictures came out with his supposed ex boyfriend.

They released a statement saying he wouldn't be signed at that time.

Now I figure that if he was a star player a team would sign him. Maybe it is the attitude stuff. I can see that. Living in the closet in that environment is probably frustrating.

Just seems that it's weird that this stuff is put out there and then bam...no more employment.

Playoffs
09-08-2013, 01:33 PM
...Just seems that it's weird that this stuff is put out there and then bam...no more employment.

It does. PFF rated Rhodes as the 4th best Safety out of 88 in the league last year. (>25% snaps)

kingtexan
09-08-2013, 05:11 PM
Question is, why do gay people need to "come out"?

I didn't "come out" as straight. If you want to be treated like everyone else, shut up and stop trying to draw attention to yourself and just live your life.

infantrycak
09-08-2013, 05:17 PM
Question is, why do gay people need to "come out"?

I didn't "come out" as straight. If you want to be treated like everyone else, shut up and stop trying to draw attention to yourself and just live your life.

You are lying to yourself. You came out by appearing in public with girls, by hitting on them in bars and introducing them as your girlfriend, spouse, etc.

That is the coming out that most people are talking about - not hiding.

IDEXAN
09-08-2013, 05:22 PM
What it means is the crusading national media and the lefties/gay-loving crowd in Hollywood are still batting 0 when it comes to their cause of having a gay guy in major league sports in the US come out.

kingtexan
09-08-2013, 05:25 PM
You are lying to yourself. You came out by appearing in public with girls, by hitting on them in bars and introducing them as your girlfriend, spouse, etc.

That is the coming out that most people are talking about - not hiding.

No it isn't. If gay people just want to go be gay then so be it. Its the "in this interview" or "held a news conference" or in normal society when they bring all their family together and make a big announcement. Like them wearing pink plum smugglers with a lavender shirt tied up around their waste didn't give it away years ago. Most people who are gay, everyone already knows they are gay, because they act gay. Its the having to make a big production out of it that is annoying.

paycheck71
09-08-2013, 05:34 PM
No it isn't. If gay people just want to go be gay then so be it. Its the "in this interview" or "held a news conference" or in normal society when they bring all their family together and make a big announcement. Like them wearing pink plum smugglers with a lavender shirt tied up around their waste didn't give it away years ago. Most people who are gay, everyone already knows they are gay, because they act gay. Its the having to make a big production out of it that is annoying.

I bet gay people think it's annoying that they're discriminated against in most places around the country. Not to mention the bullying, teasing, being made fun of, etc that many if not most of them had to endure growing up.

I think we can deal with their "press conference". Just don't watch it if it's annoying to you.

kingtexan
09-08-2013, 05:38 PM
I think we can deal with their "press conference".

Shouldn't have to deal with it if their contention is that they just want to be treated like everyone else. However, if they want to be treated as "special" and force society to look at them, notice them, and give them special treatment, then they deserve whatever they get.

paycheck71
09-08-2013, 05:41 PM
Shouldn't have to deal with it if their contention is that they just want to be treated like everyone else. However, if they want to be treated as "special" and force society to look at them, notice them, and give them special treatment, then they deserve whatever they get.

Again, you don't even have to "deal" with it. Tune to a different channel. Go read another thread. You choose to be here.

kingtexan
09-08-2013, 05:45 PM
Again, you don't even have to "deal" with it. Tune to a different channel. Go read another thread. You choose to be here.

You seriously are telling me in modern day society you can avoid having to "deal" with gay people wanting you to know they are gay? You can just turn the channel or walk away? Seriously? Where do you live? A cave?

edit: sorry just saw you were from SLC ... basically a cave ... my bad

paycheck71
09-08-2013, 05:49 PM
You seriously are telling me in modern day society you can avoid having to "deal" with gay people wanting you to know they are gay? You can just turn the channel or walk away? Seriously? Where do you live? A cave?

edit: sorry just saw you were from SLC ... basically a cave ... my bad

I really don't think there any reason for me to continue having this conversation with you. Have a nice hate-filled life.

ObsiWan
09-08-2013, 05:52 PM
Shouldn't have to deal with it if their contention is that they just want to be treated like everyone else. However, if they want to be treated as "special" and force society to look at them, notice them, and give them special treatment, then they deserve whatever they get.

But you know that's not the way things work. If any player is seen going into gay bars or brings a male date to public functions where the other guys are bringing females then there will be "talk" which will result in questions from the media. You KNOW this. Society itself, by asking those questions, participating in the whispering, making "I saw so-and-so with a DUDE on his arm" tweets in social media, forces that "special treatment" as you call it.

It used to be that interracial couples caused this kind of fuss and eyebrow raising. Now we've gotten used to mixed couples and it's not even noteworthy any longer. One day, maybe, gay couples in public with be treated with the same ho-hum, no-big-deal attitude from everyone.

But we aren't there yet.

kingtexan
09-08-2013, 05:55 PM
But you know that's not the way things work. If any player is seen going into gay bars or brings a male date to public functions where the other guys are bringing females then there will be "talk" which will result in questions from the media. You KNOW this. Society itself, by asking those questions, participating in the whispering, making "I saw so-and-so with a DUDE on his arm" tweets in social media, forces that "special treatment" as you call it.

It used to be that interracial couples caused this kind of fuss and eyebrow raising. Now we've gotten used to mixed couples and it's not even noteworthy any longer. One day, maybe, gay couples in public with be treated with the same ho-hum, no-big-deal attitude from everyone.

But we aren't there yet.

There were always rumors that Troy was gay in Dallas, but I never even once saw the media ask him about it. Maybe I just missed it but could swear it never happened.

TexanSam
09-08-2013, 06:33 PM
There were always rumors that Troy was gay in Dallas, but I never even once saw the media ask him about it. Maybe I just missed it but could swear it never happened.

That was a rumor Skip Bayless started to sell books and get publicity.

infantrycak
09-08-2013, 06:40 PM
There were always rumors that Troy was gay in Dallas, but I never even once saw the media ask him about it. Maybe I just missed it but could swear it never happened.

Skip Bayless started that crap and Aikman has had to answer questions about it periodically for the last 20 years. Just a couple years ago when he got divorced he caught a whole new round of questions.

paycheck71
09-08-2013, 06:41 PM
That was a rumor Skip Bayless started to sell books and get publicity.

And Troy Aikman hasn't forgotten what a d!ckbag Skip Bayless is.

LINK to audio (http://www.dallasvoice.com/audio-troy-aikman-threatens-gay-bash-skip-bayless-%E2%80%94-1088215.html)

Lucky
09-08-2013, 10:00 PM
Question is, why do gay people need to "come out"?

Rhodes hasn't "come out". The photographs are examples of being "outed". Rhodes didn't put his sexuality "in your face". Someone else did. Actually, you put it in front of yourself be clicking on this links and reading about it. Maybe you should ask yourself why you are so interested?
What it means is the crusading national media and the lefties/gay-loving crowd in Hollywood are still batting 0 when it comes to their cause of having a gay guy in major league sports in the US come out.
Jason Collins?

stingray
09-08-2013, 10:02 PM
Rhodes hasn't "come out". The photographs are examples of being "outed". Rhodes didn't put his sexuality "in your face". Someone else did. Actually, you put it in front of yourself be clicking on this links and reading about it. Maybe you should ask yourself why you are so interested?


Don't even respond to this guy. He's as arrogant and ignorant as they come.

Rey
09-08-2013, 10:12 PM
Question is, why do gay people need to "come out"?

I didn't "come out" as straight. If you want to be treated like everyone else, shut up and stop trying to draw attention to yourself and just live your life.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "come out"? :shrug:

Maybe I should have said "be themselves...in public"...not hide who they are in relationships with"

Rhodes hasn't actually said anything about it to my knowledge.

Texn4life
09-08-2013, 10:18 PM
If you talk to Jets fans they'll tell you he's a DIVA in every sense of the word. Too much to deal with apparently. I would welcome him as a gay player since I think he's gay as well, but not with the attitude he has.

houstonspartan
09-08-2013, 10:19 PM
You are lying to yourself. You came out by appearing in public with girls, by hitting on them in bars and introducing them as your girlfriend, spouse, etc.

That is the coming out that most people are talking about - not hiding.

Amen, bro.

Btw: how do we don't a lot of us on this message board aren't gay?

Don't assume...

houstonspartan
09-08-2013, 10:27 PM
No it isn't. If gay people just want to go be gay then so be it. Its the "in this interview" or "held a news conference" or in normal society when they bring all their family together and make a big announcement. Like them wearing pink plum smugglers with a lavender shirt tied up around their waste didn't give it away years ago. Most people who are gay, everyone already knows they are gay, because they act gay. Its the having to make a big production out of it that is annoying.

LOL. Because all gay people "act gay"?

Wow.

LMAO.

infantrycak
09-08-2013, 10:32 PM
LOL. Because all gay people "act gay"?

Wow.

LMAO.

Cut him some slack or you'll force him to break out the "I have a gay friend" line (even though few people could claim the ignorance he has displayed on the subject).

IDEXAN
09-09-2013, 08:05 AM
Jason Collins?
Jason Collins has come out, but still waits for NBA team to call
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/take2/2013/09/06/jason-collins-is-out-but-still-awaits-an-nba-team-to-call/
******
We are talking "active" pros here Lucky, and at this time Collins is effectively a former NBA player.

Double Barrel
09-09-2013, 12:10 PM
Question is, why do gay people need to "come out"?

Answer is, because people like you make it so.

TEXANRED
09-11-2013, 11:22 PM
Answer is, because people like you make it so.

So you are calling Patrick Stewart gay?

j/k. :kitten:

b0ng
09-12-2013, 12:38 AM
If he was really good or played a position that was in high demand (ie, not safety) then he would be signed and some team would be putting up with him. I really don't think he was that great on the Jets (And PFF rankings for CB's/DB's is really really bad since normal broadcasts don't catch much of the secondary action going on when a QB still has the ball), and most Jets fans were indifferent when he was not re-signed.

As unfortunate as it is, right now if you have any extra baggage (and yes, being outwardly gay is considered baggage in a place like the NFL) you better be really good at what you do so teams will look past that. But Marshawn Lynch killed somebody while drinking and driving in Buffalo and you don't hear a peep about it, and most people would probably consider a guy like that much worse than some gay dude.

infantrycak
09-12-2013, 01:26 AM
As unfortunate as it is, right now if you have any extra baggage (and yes, being outwardly gay is considered baggage in a place like the NFL) you better be really good at what you do so teams will look past that. But Marshawn Lynch killed somebody while drinking and driving in Buffalo and you don't hear a peep about it, and most people would probably consider a guy like that much worse than some gay dude.

You don't hear a peep about it because it didn't happen. Lynch was alleged to have left the scene after hitting a pedestrian. The girl got 7 stitches on her hip. There was no DUI charge and the prosecutor agreed Lynch didn't even know he had hit anyone.

He has a DUI pending in CA now but there was no accident.

Double Barrel
09-12-2013, 01:16 PM
So you are calling Patrick Stewart gay?

j/k. :kitten:

lol! I had to think for a second of who Patrick Stewart played for until I realized you were talking about Captain Picard! I guess some of his speechisms implanted themselves in my subconscious. :D

kingtexan
09-16-2013, 11:33 AM
Looks like the Giants may be giving the guy a shot.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/why-doesn-t-kerry-rhodes-job-nfl-002216784--nfl.html

News is in the air, though. The Giants who could use all the help they can get will be working out Rhodes on Tuesday, per Pro Football Talk. If Rhodes makes the team, he'd be entitled to a one-year minimum of $840,000. It's a wee bit different from $3 million he might have otherwise gotten, but it's something.

Rey
09-16-2013, 11:50 AM
Looks like the Giants may be giving the guy a shot.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/why-doesn-t-kerry-rhodes-job-nfl-002216784--nfl.html

I just read some giants forum and they are buzzing about this.

A lot of them didn't even realize those pictures were out there. Heck, I didn't know until someone told me well after the pics and story surfaced.

If he signs in NY, I would think everyone would become aware. Not going to escape those bright lights.