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thunderkyss
09-05-2013, 10:46 AM
John McClain has the Texans going 13-3 (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/09/mcclains-game-by-game-predictions-for-the-texans-season/#15496-1)

Losing at Baltimore, to the 9ers on the road, & to Indy in Indy

eriadoc
09-05-2013, 10:47 AM
Well, if McClain says it ...

DX-TEX
09-05-2013, 10:47 AM
Doesn't he have a history of picking lower than what they actually win?

19-0 incoming!!!!

SUPERBOWL!!:bender:

thunderkyss
09-05-2013, 10:50 AM
He's got us averaging 28 ppg (which will probably be about right) & giving up 18 ppg (I'm hoping we don't give up that much but we'll see).

eriadoc
09-05-2013, 10:57 AM
He's got us averaging 28 ppg ...

All that matters is what they average against the plus teams. Landing on 16 points against the high powered offenses is not going to cut it.

thunderkyss
09-05-2013, 11:25 AM
All that matters is what they average against the plus teams. Landing on 16 points against the high powered offenses is not going to cut it.

I couldn't care less what they scored against the plus teams. As long as we win. I'll take a 16-12 drumming of the New England Patriots in the AFC Championship game all day.

Playoffs
09-05-2013, 11:45 AM
John McClain has the Texans going 13-3 (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/09/mcclains-game-by-game-predictions-for-the-texans-season/#15496-1)


No, no that was crossed up with a snack order text to Dunkin' Donuts he made...

I'll have 13 of the chocolate cream-filled and 3 bear claws.

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eriadoc
09-05-2013, 11:46 AM
I couldn't care less what they scored against the plus teams. As long as we win. I'll take a 16-12 drumming of the New England Patriots in the AFC Championship game all day.

Well sure. We'll all take the dream scenario. The point is, teams with high scoring offenses aren't going to be held to 16 points. That's been the primary difference between the Texans and the really good teams. The rules and refereeing do not allow defenses to hold down the teams that have elite offense. The NFL doesn't want offense to be held back. The Texans scored 33 points against the Saints a couple years ago and lost. Scored 28 against the Patriots and lost. The Packers and the Pats earlier brutalized them. Teams that are truly offensive powerhouses don't settle for FGs and land on 16 points. The Texans do.

Don't give a damn what the season average for points scored is. Run it up against the Jags, Rams, Titans, and Chiefs and the season average looks pretty good. All I care about is what they score against the Seahawks, 49ers, Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, and to a lesser degree, the Colts. Settling for FGs against the good teams and scoring TDs against the Rams doesn't impress me anymore.

thunderkyss
09-05-2013, 11:50 AM
Well sure. We'll all take the dream scenario. The point is, teams with high scoring offenses aren't going to be held to 16 points. That's been the primary difference between the Texans and the really good teams. The rules and refereeing do not allow defenses to hold down the teams that have elite offense. The NFL doesn't want offense to be held back. The Texans scored 33 points against the Saints a couple years ago and lost. Scored 28 against the Patriots and lost. The Packers and the Pats earlier brutalized them. Teams that are truly offensive powerhouses don't settle for FGs and land on 16 points. The Texans do.

Gotcha....... that makes perfect sense (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013012000/2012/POST20/ravens@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap)

eriadoc
09-05-2013, 12:02 PM
Gotcha....... that makes perfect sense (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013012000/2012/POST20/ravens@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap)

Recent (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092501/2011/REG3/texans@saints#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
Texans (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012092311/2012/REG3/texans@broncos#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
history (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012101411/2012/REG6/packers@texans#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
makes (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012112200/2012/REG12/texans@lions#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
my (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013011300/2012/POST19/texans@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
point (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012121000/2012/REG14/texans@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap).

thunderkyss
09-05-2013, 12:09 PM
Recent (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092501/2011/REG3/texans@saints#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
Texans (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012092311/2012/REG3/texans@broncos#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
history (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012101411/2012/REG6/packers@texans#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
makes (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012112200/2012/REG12/texans@lions#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
my (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013011300/2012/POST19/texans@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap)
point (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012121000/2012/REG14/texans@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap).

I thought your point was that elite offenses won't be held to 16 points.... that's all I was referring to.

76Texan
09-05-2013, 12:20 PM
I thought your point was that elite offenses won't be held to 16 points.... that's all I was referring to.

If your team score 17 points, they would have won 23 SBs and get to OT another 8 times.

If your team score 21 points, they would have won 35 SBs and get to OT 4 times.

There have been 47 SBs.

(Providing the other team is the losing team in previous SBs)

I'll say, the Texans need to score between 21-24 points to have a decent shot at winning it.

Porky
09-05-2013, 12:35 PM
Lance Z this morning predicted 10-6. That was a bit lower than I expected from him, and I think it's on the lower side of being within the target area. I have them at 12-4 myself, but I could see as low as 10 and as high as 13.

Frankly, I trust the football acumen of Lance more than I do McClain so his 10-6 has me just a tad worried that I have over-predicted how good this team is. We'll see.

silvrhand
09-05-2013, 01:13 PM
Lance Z this morning predicted 10-6. That was a bit lower than I expected from him, and I think it's on the lower side of being within the target area. I have them at 12-4 myself, but I could see as low as 10 and as high as 13.

Frankly, I trust the football acumen of Lance more than I do McClain so his 10-6 has me just a tad worried that I have over-predicted how good this team is. We'll see.

I don't see how Mcclain can claim 13-3 with the last 3 years, and the historically bad last half of the year we have always had. Hopefully we get past that this year and be getting stronger going into the playoffs, not weaker..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Houston_Texans_season
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Houston_Texans_season
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Houston_Texans_season

thunderkyss
09-05-2013, 01:37 PM
If your team score 17 points, they would have won 23 SBs and get to OT another 8 times.

If your team score 21 points, they would have won 35 SBs and get to OT 4 times.

There have been 47 SBs.

(Providing the other team is the losing team in previous SBs)

I'll say, the Texans need to score between 21-24 points to have a decent shot at winning it.

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76Texan
09-05-2013, 01:41 PM
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drs23
09-05-2013, 02:42 PM
Well sure. We'll all take the dream scenario. The point is, teams with high scoring offenses aren't going to be held to 16 points. That's been the primary difference between the Texans and the really good teams. The rules and refereeing do not allow defenses to hold down the teams that have elite offense. The NFL doesn't want offense to be held back. The Texans scored 33 points against the Saints a couple years ago and lost. Scored 28 against the Patriots and lost. The Packers and the Pats earlier brutalized them. Teams that are truly offensive powerhouses don't settle for FGs and land on 16 points. The Texans do.

Don't give a damn what the season average for points scored is. Run it up against the Jags, Rams, Titans, and Chiefs and the season average looks pretty good. All I care about is what they score against the Seahawks, 49ers, Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, and to a lesser degree, the Colts. Settling for FGs against the good teams and scoring TDs against the Rams doesn't impress me anymore.

I've got a feeling that your opinion could/might change this season. Fischer has done a pretty good job of reloading the talent on that team in his short tenure. I think they're going to be more a more than respectable opponent this year. Well perhaps other than that #31 guy. You know, the one that AJ changed his name. :)

speedfreek
09-05-2013, 05:00 PM
Wanna believe it but my gut tells me 10-6 or 11-5, starting
strong with a bad fade at the end of the year..

Just need to see this team play well on the big stage when
the brightest lights are on.

TJ

DX-TEX
09-05-2013, 05:14 PM
Wanna believe it but my gut tells me 10-6 or 11-5, starting
strong with a bad fade at the end of the year..

Just need to see this team play well on the big stage when
the brightest lights are on.

TJ

I don't think that will happen this year after what happened last season. My bigger worry would be the opposite: starting bad and finishing strong. Whole reason they brought reed in IMO

dream_team
09-05-2013, 05:49 PM
Well sure. We'll all take the dream scenario. The point is, teams with high scoring offenses aren't going to be held to 16 points. That's been the primary difference between the Texans and the really good teams. The rules and refereeing do not allow defenses to hold down the teams that have elite offense. The NFL doesn't want offense to be held back. The Texans scored 33 points against the Saints a couple years ago and lost. Scored 28 against the Patriots and lost. The Packers and the Pats earlier brutalized them. Teams that are truly offensive powerhouses don't settle for FGs and land on 16 points. The Texans do.

Don't give a damn what the season average for points scored is. Run it up against the Jags, Rams, Titans, and Chiefs and the season average looks pretty good. All I care about is what they score against the Seahawks, 49ers, Broncos, Patriots, Ravens, and to a lesser degree, the Colts. Settling for FGs against the good teams and scoring TDs against the Rams doesn't impress me anymore.

In the Packers 6 losses last season, their offense was held to an average of 22.7 points.

In the Patriots 5 losses last season, their offense was held to an average of 23.6 points.

Against us, both teams broke 40 points (the Pats twice).

Sure, it would be nice if Schaub was an elite QB and he can go toe-to-toe with Brady and Rodgers... but he isn't, nobody is saying he is. Our defense needs to step up against the elite offenses more than our QB does.

Heath Shuler
09-05-2013, 07:35 PM
Heath Shuler says 14-2 :koolaid:

ObsiWan
09-06-2013, 12:29 PM
Our defense needs to step up against the elite offenses more than our QB does.

In my mind, this is it in a nutshell. The Ravens and the Texans scored 28 points against the Patriots last playoff season. It wasn't near enough for the Texans. But it was plenty for the Ravens since they won by 15 ...IN Foxboro I might add.
:d: baby... THAT'S what will take this team to the Super Bowl.

msbbc833
09-06-2013, 03:45 PM
Lots of question marks for this defense. JJo on the decline, questionable safety pla, questionable pass rush outside of Watt.

On the other hand, we do have some improvements including another year under Mercilus/Reed/Watt's belt, improved play from Mitchell, return of Cushing. Interesting to see how this will all play out.

2012Champs
09-06-2013, 04:50 PM
In the Packers 6 losses last season, their offense was held to an average of 22.7 points.

In the Patriots 5 losses last season, their offense was held to an average of 23.6 points.

Against us, both teams broke 40 points (the Pats twice).

Sure, it would be nice if Schaub was an elite QB and he can go toe-to-toe with Brady and Rodgers... but he isn't, nobody is saying he is. Our defense needs to step up against the elite offenses more than our QB does.



Schaub wasnt able to post points against New Orleans either. Oh wait. I think sometimes people lose context when looking back.

BullBlitz
09-06-2013, 05:08 PM
Tough to envision them experiencing only 3 losses, but they should win more than they lose.

ThaShark316
09-06-2013, 05:16 PM
In the Packers 6 losses last season, their offense was held to an average of 22.7 points.

In the Patriots 5 losses last season, their offense was held to an average of 23.6 points.

Against us, both teams broke 40 points (the Pats twice).

Sure, it would be nice if Schaub was an elite QB and he can go toe-to-toe with Brady and Rodgers... but he isn't, nobody is saying he is. Our defense needs to step up against the elite offenses more than our QB does.

Even if Schaub was the BEST IN THE WORLD, we would STILL need our defense to do this. 83 points vs. one team in 2 games don't equal a champion.

Really need our defense to show out, Schaub be damned. Even if he's flawless for 19 games, I can't say I'm confident if it's 38-35 with 1:48 to go vs. Rodgers or Kaepernick in the Super Bowl and our defense has been "ehh" all night.

HouTx11
09-06-2013, 07:57 PM
Sure, it would be nice if Schaub was an elite QB and he can go toe-to-toe with Brady and Rodgers... but he isn't, nobody is saying he is. Our defense needs to step up against the elite offenses more than our QB does.

This sums it up for me as well, nicely said! Schaub needs to step it up, but so does the D. Giving up 40+ to the great teams doesn't exactly help the offense win those games.

kingtexan
09-08-2013, 10:43 AM
Lance Z this morning predicted 10-6. That was a bit lower than I expected from him, and I think it's on the lower side of being within the target area. I have them at 12-4 myself, but I could see as low as 10 and as high as 13.

Frankly, I trust the football acumen of Lance more than I do McClain so his 10-6 has me just a tad worried that I have over-predicted how good this team is. We'll see.

I think both of them are a waste of radio time, like Nick and Josh on 610.

I think the Texans will go 12-4.

kingtexan
09-08-2013, 10:46 AM
This sums it up for me as well, nicely said! Schaub needs to step it up, but so does the D. Giving up 40+ to the great teams doesn't exactly help the offense win those games.

Matt just needs to not make stupid decisions. He doesn't have the ability to win an NFL game, but does have the ability to lose one. Let those who surround him do their job and don't screw it up ... that's his job. The secondary needs to make a definite improvement for the Texans to have a real chance at going farther.

DX-TEX
09-08-2013, 10:46 AM
6-10 then draft Derek Carr in the 1st round.

This message board implodes!

Marcus
09-08-2013, 11:04 AM
I'm surprised I haven't seen a 9-7 predicted yet.

Well then, allow me to be the first. Injuries will take a heavy toll, and nobody ever takes that into account.

John McClane doesn't believe they will go 13-3 any more than I do.

texanhead08
09-08-2013, 01:18 PM
I've been saying 9-7 since the schedule was announced. This team has too many question marks to finish 13-3. I think the end of last season really sent out a lot of red flags to anyone with a hint of sanity about our team.

ATXtexanfan
09-08-2013, 01:59 PM
11-5

potisyourfriend
09-08-2013, 07:50 PM
Was he able to say 13-3 without having to suck in 100 cubic feet of air? Bonus would be without mentioning a movie he was in for 2 seconds?

Surreal McCoy
09-09-2013, 08:33 AM
Lance Z this morning predicted 10-6. That was a bit lower than I expected from him, and I think it's on the lower side of being within the target area. I have them at 12-4 myself, but I could see as low as 10 and as high as 13.

Frankly, I trust the football acumen of Lance more than I do McClain so his 10-6 has me just a tad worried that I have over-predicted how good this team is. We'll see.

I think that's a good call. I'm going with 9-7 but it's not all gloom and doom as I think we'll still win our division and actually make it one game further in the playoffs. The defense is a particular worry. As good as JJo and Kareem are, they're still not good enough to cover for 5 seconds if we get no pass rush, and there's not much pass rush unless Watt is on form.

Still, looking forward to the season no matter how it turns out :)

Playoffs
09-09-2013, 11:41 AM
Was he able to say 13-3 without having to suck in 100 cubic feet of air? Bonus would be without mentioning a movie he was in for 2 seconds?

He got the '13' out.... then dozed off, http://www.puma-project.eu/yacs/smileys/images/sleep.gif



the '3' came out ~20 minutes later.

Texaninlild
09-09-2013, 11:47 AM
He's got us averaging 28 ppg (which will probably be about right) & giving up 18 ppg (I'm hoping we don't give up that much but we'll see).

If Keo remains at safety we will be lucky..chuck and duck from our front 7.

C Madd
09-09-2013, 12:13 PM
6-10 then draft Derek Carr in the 1st round.

This message board implodes!

Would this mean the return of Hulk75?

dream_team
09-09-2013, 12:36 PM
I think that's a good call. I'm going with 9-7 but it's not all gloom and doom as I think we'll still win our division and actually make it one game further in the playoffs. The defense is a particular worry. As good as JJo and Kareem are, they're still not good enough to cover for 5 seconds if we get no pass rush, and there's not much pass rush unless Watt is on form.

Still, looking forward to the season no matter how it turns out :)

My pessimistic side agrees with this, but I'd lean more towards 10-6. I wasn't happy with our pass rush last season (besides Watt), which exposed our corners for too long. I don't think we can rely on Watt being the lone guy to constantly put pressure. I'm really really hoping Merci will step it up this season.