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Swearinger
08-29-2013, 05:14 PM
Anyone watching the games tonight?

UNC@SC is on now.

TexansSeminole
08-29-2013, 05:40 PM
Anyone watching the games tonight?

UNC@SC is on now.

Yup, watching it. UNC defensive lineman getting stonewalled.

htownfan32
08-29-2013, 06:16 PM
Man Clowney gives Renner no time in the pocket

TexansSeminole
08-29-2013, 09:16 PM
Man Clowney gives Renner no time in the pocket

Clowney got completely winded way too early, and they were even subbing for him liberally. He's not well conditioned. Come 3rd quarter, he was so gassed that he was just done. Completely poor effort after that.

htownfan32
08-29-2013, 10:13 PM
Clowney got completely winded way too early, and they were even subbing for him liberally. He's not well conditioned. Come 3rd quarter, he was so gassed that he was just done. Completely poor effort after that.

Yeah, I watched a little bit of the game only (switched to the Texans game as soon as that came on) but by the end of when I was watching the announcers were even talking about how Clowney had his hands on his knees and looked tired.
Still while his motor was running, the guy looked unstoppable.

Rock N Randy
08-30-2013, 11:07 PM
Just watched the Miami game
Wow
That was a field day for Morris and Duke Johnson

I loved Duke as a HS blue chip prospect going to the "U" even though the program was under investigation and is still currently on going investigation
But he went there went there was not a lot and now with Morris and his class going into there sophomore years Miami might make some noise in their conference.

Duke showed his worth and talent last year but just after this one game tonight he looks a lot better the moves the stregth and burst he showed.

He is so small and compact, so strong and fast.

I will be watching I'm closely this year as I did last yr and next yr.

Praying and hoping duke becomes a Houston Texan in 2015-16.

Morris too, wouldn't mind him. Morris is showing progression and taking his game to another level.

76Texan
08-31-2013, 02:48 PM
How do you get called for having twelve men on the field on the first play of the game?

Don't you name eleven starters before the game? :kubepalm:

Never mind that they went on to score, but Notre Dame?
Aren't them boys supposed to be at least "not dumb"?
LOL!

76Texan
08-31-2013, 03:05 PM
#61 Gabe Jackson, LG, Misss. St.
6'4 - 335lbs and can move even better than Brandon Brooks, I think.
Need to keep an eye on this guy.

Showtime100
08-31-2013, 03:15 PM
Good grief, did anybody else see that stat? Mississippi St. allowed only 6 punt return yards all season?

Then just to show you how it could be done their punter Swedenburg blasted 66-67 yard punt that somehow stayed inbounds for the touchback. Now way could that have been returned had it been caught.

Swedenburg has a job at the next level when the time comes. Geeezus.

76Texan
08-31-2013, 04:28 PM
Go get him Rick!

Brandon420tx
08-31-2013, 04:33 PM
TE Hunter Henry from Arkansas looking like a very draftable TE in Louisiana vs. Arkansas game

76Texan
08-31-2013, 05:22 PM
TE Hunter Henry from Arkansas looking like a very draftable TE in Louisiana vs. Arkansas game

Isn't he a freshman ?

Brandon420tx
08-31-2013, 05:25 PM
I'm just watching the game and it just popped into my head, felt like posting it. I don't get into draft mode until the end of the NFL season.

The guy moves really well and runs through people after the catch.

TexansSeminole
08-31-2013, 05:32 PM
Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas is and has always been terrible.

Brandon420tx
08-31-2013, 05:36 PM
Henry drops an easy pass to force a 4th down :facepalm: was looking to truck someone before he caught the ball all the way.

76Texan
08-31-2013, 05:48 PM
Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas is and has always been terrible.

What else is new? LOL

Mr teX
08-31-2013, 06:17 PM
Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas is and has always been terrible.

I think he's got potential...just in a bad situation..

TexansSeminole
08-31-2013, 06:34 PM
I think he's got potential...just in a bad situation..

No, he's always been terrible and everybody always goes back to his potential. "Well, he's a big kid with a big arm." He constantly makes poor decisions and hasn't improved even a little bit since his first start.

His situation has never been bad either. They have always had a good and disciplined defense to back him up. He's had some playmakers on offense in his time there. Thomas has always been the weak link.

I type this as he throws the ball into the ground to nobody on one of the worst passes I have seen all day. Little to no pressure on the play. I used to think he had potential too, but it was never realized.

Mr teX
08-31-2013, 06:54 PM
Saban is giving A&M absolutely nothing to look at on tape....3 yds and a cloud of dust..

Mr teX
08-31-2013, 07:01 PM
This christien jones kid.....can u say x-factor?

TexansSeminole
08-31-2013, 07:34 PM
Tajh Boyd is the real deal. My #1 QB.

Swearinger
08-31-2013, 07:38 PM
Would love to see Clemson win this one.

TexansSeminole
08-31-2013, 07:46 PM
Told y'all Sammy Watkins was a beast.

76Texan
08-31-2013, 09:21 PM
No, he's always been terrible and everybody always goes back to his potential. "Well, he's a big kid with a big arm." He constantly makes poor decisions and hasn't improved even a little bit since his first start.

His situation has never been bad either. They have always had a good and disciplined defense to back him up. He's had some playmakers on offense in his time there. Thomas has always been the weak link.

I type this as he throws the ball into the ground to nobody on one of the worst passes I have seen all day. Little to no pressure on the play. I used to think he had potential too, but it was never realized.

Jamarcus Russell v.2.0

76Texan
08-31-2013, 09:22 PM
Told y'all Sammy Watkins was a beast.

How does a guy with 10-3/4 drop a punt?

TexansSeminole
08-31-2013, 10:20 PM
How does a guy with 10-3/4 drop a punt?

He tried to snag it out of the air for some reason. Poor technique.

Tajh Boyd 300+ yards and 5 total touchdowns against Georgia.

Texian
09-02-2013, 10:28 PM
Just watched the Miami game
Wow
That was a field day for Morris and Duke Johnson

Morris too, wouldn't mind him. Morris is showing progression and taking his game to another level.

Morris will get his best test this week (Florida) and we will find out if he is the real deal. He needs to complete more than 60% of passes. Last year only 58% and that translates in to < than 50% in the NFL

Swearinger
09-07-2013, 03:30 PM
South Carolina vs Georgia about to bump heads. Should be a great game.

Go Cocks!

TexansSeminole
09-07-2013, 03:35 PM
Morris will get his best test this week (Florida) and we will find out if he is the real deal. He needs to complete more than 60% of passes. Last year only 58% and that translates in to < than 50% in the NFL

Not a big fan if Morris, but the Canes defense got it done against Florida.

Swearinger
09-07-2013, 03:54 PM
Not a big fan if Morris, but the Canes defense got it done against Florida.Yeah the Canes defense was all over Driskell. It looked like he was picking himself up off the turf after every snap. The Canes defense played great today.

Showtime100
09-12-2013, 06:48 PM
What on Earth is Texas Tech wearing tonight vs TCU?

It looks like gray-slash-purple or something like.

They have awesome school colors and do that to themselves...lol.

FirstTexansFan
09-12-2013, 06:55 PM
What on Earth is Texas Tech wearing tonight vs TCU?

It looks like gray-slash-purple or something like.

They have awesome school colors and do that to themselves...lol.

I'm liking it, but I'm biased, love my New Braunfels friend Cliff Kingsbury :)

Showtime100
09-12-2013, 08:20 PM
I'm liking it, but I'm biased, love my New Braunfels friend Cliff Kingsbury :)

At least he doesn't have to wear the uniform...lol. :tiphat:

10-0 Tech at the half. I haven't watched this game much at all, but shutting out the Frogs in a half isn't too shabby.

CretorFrigg
09-12-2013, 10:08 PM
I don't know what I just watched. There were a lot of questionable calls in the Tech/TCU game. Even the announcers had no idea what was going on.

Ranger Tom
09-13-2013, 01:46 PM
I don't know what I just watched. There were a lot of questionable calls in the Tech/TCU game. Even the announcers had no idea what was going on.

I was at the game so I don't know what the announcers said, but I agree that this was a strange game as far as officiating went.

And grey uniforms suck. I hope I never see those things again. All black, I can live with. All white, I could have gotten used to. All grey for a school whose colors are red and black? Someone is smoking something they should not be.

htownfan32
09-13-2013, 08:22 PM
What on Earth is Texas Tech wearing tonight vs TCU?

It looks like gray-slash-purple or something like.

They have awesome school colors and do that to themselves...lol.

Yeah, I remember SCar rolling out some military fatigue grey urban combat style ones, those were weird too and the Tech ones reminded me of those.

For the record, though the stormtrooper unis the A&M team wore against Alabama were nice, I hope we go with the black ones. Those look sick, even if some people were whining about how they didn't fit with Aggie tradition.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 02:25 AM
Yeah, I remember SCar rolling out some military fatigue grey urban combat style ones, those were weird too and the Tech ones reminded me of those.

For the record, though the stormtrooper unis the A&M team wore against Alabama were nice, I hope we go with the black ones. Those look sick, even if some people were whining about how they didn't fit with Aggie tradition.

They all black Seminole unis are sweet too.

http://cart.garnetandgold.com/blast/items/blackjersey.jpg

Ranger Tom
09-14-2013, 10:02 AM
Yeah, I remember SCar rolling out some military fatigue grey urban combat style ones, those were weird too and the Tech ones reminded me of those.

Those may have been for the Wounded Warrior project, where the jerseys are auctioned off after the game to raise money for wounded veterans' medical care. Texas Tech did that and ended up with a really cool design--there was a demand for the jerseys after the event was over, so now they do it every year (and sell tee shirts with that design as well). I think Kansas State is our next Wounded Warrior game.

htownfan32
09-14-2013, 10:53 AM
Those may have been for the Wounded Warrior project, where the jerseys are auctioned off after the game to raise money for wounded veterans' medical care. Texas Tech did that and ended up with a really cool design--there was a demand for the jerseys after the event was over, so now they do it every year (and sell tee shirts with that design as well). I think Kansas State is our next Wounded Warrior game.

Well, the design may not be the best imo, but that is a really great cause they're doing it for. More power to them.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 01:56 PM
Prediction:

Alabama 48 - Texas A&M 20

Bama 300+ yards rushing.

Pantherstang84
09-14-2013, 02:09 PM
Prediction:

Alabama 48 - Texas A&M 20

Bama 300+ yards rushing.

I'm hoping it is more like Alabama 10,475 - Texas A&M -132

thunderkyss
09-14-2013, 02:31 PM
Prediction:

Alabama 48 - Texas A&M 20

Bama 300+ yards rushing.

Are you saying Jonny Football doesn't play defense?


When did that happen?

Playoffs
09-14-2013, 02:36 PM
Prediction:

Alabama 48 - Texas A&M 20

Bama 300+ yards rushing.

Game is worthy of its own thread, imo.

potisyourfriend
09-14-2013, 02:54 PM
Early on A&M is looking good against the supposed #1 team in the Nation.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 02:59 PM
Early on A&M is looking good against the supposed #1 team in the Nation.

Manziel looks on point right now.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
09-14-2013, 03:00 PM
Bama is getting worked. Manziel is a stud

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
09-14-2013, 03:09 PM
And right when I say that, Bama marches down the field for a TD. lol

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 03:20 PM
Bama not getting any pressure whatsoever.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 03:41 PM
Manziel is stupid good sometimes

StarStruck
09-14-2013, 03:44 PM
O M G!:yes::throwball:

Bad turnover after such highlight worthy play.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 03:44 PM
Bad pick

rmartin65
09-14-2013, 03:56 PM
This targeting a defenseless receiver rule is some bull****. It is freaking terrible.

mattieuk
09-14-2013, 03:57 PM
Oh my goodness.

They better be at least overturning the ejection. The penalty alone is still an awful call.

CloakNNNdagger
09-14-2013, 04:01 PM
That shouldn't have been called as a penalty at all. Terrible rule.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 04:03 PM
Yeah, these rules are crazy. An FSU defensive player lost his helmet, then dived on the ball on an apparent fumble earlier in that game. They called personal foul for him continuing to play after he got his helmet ripped off, no foul on offense. 15 yards, automatic 1st down on a 3rd down stop.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 04:03 PM
Glad that kid wasnt ejected for nothing

mattieuk
09-14-2013, 04:06 PM
Glad that kid wasnt ejected for nothing

Yup - but it is a ridiculous situation. Not fair on the players, the officials nor the fans.

Now you end up with a referee having to tell the world that they made the wrong decision yet unable to pick up the flag, the player being dismayed at having made a great play which has been penalized but effectively overturned and the fans likewise.

rmartin65
09-14-2013, 04:07 PM
Yup - but it is a ridiculous situation. Not fair on the players, the officials nor the fans.

Now you end up with a referee having to tell the world that they made the wrong decision yet unable to pick up the flag, the player being dismayed at having made a great play which has been penalized but effectively overturned and the fans likewise.

Yep. It should be possible to overturn that penalty.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 04:11 PM
Bama score would be huge. Bama ball out of half?

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 04:14 PM
You can't do the throat slash celebration. Saban is pissed.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 04:15 PM
Nice, money sign and throat slash

Pantherstang84
09-14-2013, 04:21 PM
Nice, money sign and throat slash

Saban didn't care for it but I did! My neighbors are pretty quiet compared to the 1st qtr.

Pantherstang84
09-14-2013, 04:24 PM
Spencer Tillman is embarrassing himself.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 04:43 PM
Bama needs to end.it now

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 04:48 PM
Pick six lol

thunderkyss
09-14-2013, 04:51 PM
Not looking good for Jonny Football

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 04:54 PM
Not looking good for Jonny Football

Cant lie after that charger game I dont count him out

Hervoyel
09-14-2013, 04:55 PM
A&M is about to get their **** pushed in. This is how it's done Aggies, pay attention.

Playoffs
09-14-2013, 05:02 PM
Game is worthy of its own thread, imo.

...on second thought. :hmmm:

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 05:05 PM
Got a game again

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 05:16 PM
Got a game again

I stand corrected, roll tide

Hervoyel
09-14-2013, 05:17 PM
Got a game again

Not really.

edit: You beat me to it. Alabama underestimated A&M last year. Not happening again.

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 05:19 PM
AJ Mccarron making his case for the heisman

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 05:43 PM
Yeah, these rules are crazy. An FSU defensive player lost his helmet, then dived on the ball on an apparent fumble earlier in that game. They called personal foul for him continuing to play after he got his helmet ripped off, no foul on offense. 15 yards, automatic 1st down on a 3rd down stop.

Same thing just happened in the Bama game.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 05:44 PM
Same thing just happened in the Bama game.

Balance

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 05:45 PM
Uh oh, bama turnover

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 05:49 PM
Got a game again

Definitely got a game again.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 05:49 PM
Omg

Showtime100
09-14-2013, 05:52 PM
Daaaaayyyyuuuum! I can't believe how this game has turned on a dime.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 05:54 PM
Mike Evans is one hell of a receiver.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
09-14-2013, 05:55 PM
Aggies gonna need another lucky fumble. Their defense isn't stopping anything.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 05:57 PM
Aggies gonna need another lucky fumble. Their defense isn't stopping anything.

Yup, bama needs to play slow and efficient

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 06:04 PM
Game, set, match.

ATXtexanfan
09-14-2013, 06:08 PM
Ballgame?

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 06:09 PM
Mike Evans is one hell of a receiver.

Not really...when Leblue got him he got real quiet...dude is out there feasting on 3rd stringers...

Showtime100
09-14-2013, 06:09 PM
They at least kept it interesting. A lot of work to do about their run defense.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 06:11 PM
Not really...when Leblue got him he got real quiet...dude is out there feasting on 3rd stringers...

I think he is a great player. I've seen him make plenty of plays in his time at A&M. Just won a jump ball against Clinton-Dix, a first round talent.

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 06:13 PM
14 pt win...all came courtesy of Johnny Goofball too...couldn't have went better
l

Wolf
09-14-2013, 06:15 PM
14 pt win...all came courtesy of Johnny Goofball too...couldn't have went better
l
Not quite.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 06:15 PM
14 pt win...all came courtesy of Johnny Goofball too...couldn't have went better
l

More like, thanks to the poor A&M defense.

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 06:17 PM
That backyard football crap only goes so far...dude just out there padding his stats now....

Wolf
09-14-2013, 06:17 PM
Aggies did better than I thought they would

Didn't expect Johnny to put up 400+ yards

562 total yards sheeze


Aj played really kick ass today too

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 06:17 PM
That backyard football crap only goes so far...dude just out there padding his stats now....

He's fighting to win the game. What are you talking about?

Wolf
09-14-2013, 06:19 PM
Tex doesn't like him on or off the field

Bottom line

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 06:20 PM
More like, thanks to the poor A&M defense.

They got 6 off Manziel himself....the red zone pick was huge....u had to know bama wasn't going to make as many mistakes as they did last year...I'll say A&M got a chance to see the real Bama team not underestimate them like last year.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 06:21 PM
They got 6 off Manziel himself....the red zone pick was huge....u had to know bama wasn't going to make as many mistakes as they did last year...I'll say A&M got a chance to see the real Bama team not underestimate them like last year.

I predicted Bama to win big, but to say that Manziel lost this game for his team is just stupid. Sorry, but it's stupid.

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 06:22 PM
He's fighting to win the game. What are you talking about?

That's how he plays... That **** won't fly on the next level.... Dude's overrated as hell

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 06:25 PM
That's how he plays... That **** won't fly on the next level.... Dude's overrated as hell

We're not at the next level, we are watching college football right now. I thought Manziel had one hell of a performance. He was responsible for 53 of their 71 plays via run or pass and played extremely well against a good defense. He made some mistakes, but that is to be expected when you are responsible for 75% of your teams offensive plays against a good defense.

Seems clear to me that he had a good game and that the defense was the clear problem for A&M.

Wolf
09-14-2013, 06:26 PM
Overrated? He put up 500+ yards against bama..no one else will do that.

Why are you worrying about the next level? He's not playing the Texans next week.

Honestly I think his game won't translate at nfl..but they is for the future to decide

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 06:27 PM
I predicted Bama to win big, but to say that Manziel lost this game for his team is just stupid. Sorry, but it's stupid.

He did...accept it.... His mistakes led directly to points on the board... Accept it.

A&M's defense wasn't going to stop Bama..they were at least gonna put up 30.... They damn near put up 30 last year and played horribly....his mistakes spotted them another 14 and took 7 off the board for them...

If this were the texans and Schaub did this folks would be calling for his head...

Stemp
09-14-2013, 06:27 PM
We're not at the next level, we are watching college football right now. I thought Manziel had one hell of a performance. He was responsible for 53 of their 71 plays via run or pass and played extremely well against a good defense. He made some mistakes, but that is to be expected when you are responsible for 75% of your teams offensive plays against a good defense.

Seems clear to me that he had a good game and that the defense was the clear problem for A&M.

Don't mind him. he's an admitted hater. Had Manziel gotten the comeback he'd just disappear and only start talking again when manziel made another mistake.


Notice he didn't show up till AFTER Alabama got a lead.

TexansSeminole
09-14-2013, 06:28 PM
He did...accept it.... His mistakes led directly to points on the board... Accept it.

A&M's defense wasn't going to stop Bama..they were at least gonna put up 30.... They damn near put up 30 last year....his mistakes spotted them another 14 and took 7 off the board for them...

If this were the texans and Schaub did this folks would be calling for his head...

Clearly there is no reasonable conversation to be had when talking to you about Manziel.

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 06:32 PM
Throwing the rock up for grabs and depending on your wr to make the play for you NUMEROUS times makes you a great college qb?...ok if you say so.

Wolf
09-14-2013, 06:38 PM
Clearly Tex doesn't understand mismatches

Stemp
09-14-2013, 06:48 PM
Clearly Tex doesn't understand mismatches

Clearly he doesn't understand much about college football.

He's like a negative VY-fanboy. instead of thinking a QB is the best ever and can do no wrong, he thinks Manziel is horrible and can do nothing right, even when all the evidence says otherwise.

Hervoyel
09-14-2013, 07:00 PM
Aggies were good today. Their defense is slowly morphing into the Houston Cougars D but they got a buttload of offense and while I personally don't care much for Johnny Paycheck he is a hell of a football player.

Aggie fans should be pleased. I was hoping they'd get the **** beat out of them to maybe shut up some of the "instant" (just add winning!) fans who have popped up in my circle recently but this will do.

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 07:00 PM
Clearly Tex doesn't understand mismatches

I understand mismatches just fine....I just don't think that him throwing it up to a guy with a clear size advantage makes him a great qb is all...on those type of plays, the WR is the guy who shoulders the largest part of the responsibility to ensure those plays are a success....the qb just has to get it in the vicinity of guys like that....this isn't even counting that garbage he threw up in the middle of the field that somehow got concerted for a 1st in the 1st half.

we've seen stafford do this with megaton for years.....and we always come away thinking that it was Johnson who made the play work not stafford.

htownfan32
09-14-2013, 07:02 PM
I am disappointed, but I'm also really not sad. I was impressed by the fight we put up, and to be honest though losses this close hurt, they also show that we can hang with the big boys too. If we had gotten blown out, everyone would have started talking trash about how our victory last year was a fluke - instead, they'll talk about a hard battle and hopefully the birth of a great rivalry. I was impressed by the politeness of Bama fans, and I can honestly say we did the right thing coming to the SEC.

Did we have issues? Yes. We also have youth, and lots of it. This is a team that is only going to get better with time. We have a great conference, great foes, and that kind of greatness breeds greatness of its own. Our star is still ascendant in Texas. The future is bright for A&M football, and I'm damn glad I've got 2.5 seasons left in the tank while I'm still here.

Congrats to Bama. They showed guts, just like our boys did, and they came out with a deserved victory. Looking forward to a great and rich rivalry between our progams for many years to come.

Farmers Fight! Farmers Fight! Farmers Farmers Fight!

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 07:08 PM
Clearly he doesn't understand much about college football.

He's like a negative VY-fanboy. instead of thinking a QB is the best ever and can do no wrong, he thinks Manziel is horrible and can do nothing right, even when all the evidence says otherwise.

What evidence? His stats? The system lends itself to stats as we've seen countless other qb's in this system or similar systems Throw up monster stats. just b/c he's the 1st to be able to test it out in the SEC doesn't mean he's a great qb....

I'm gonna let u make it though u seem :kingkong::mad:

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 07:11 PM
I am disappointed, but I'm also really not sad. I was impressed by the fight we put up, and to be honest though losses this close hurt, they also show that we can hang with the big boys too. If we had gotten blown out, everyone would have started talking trash about how our victory last year was a fluke - instead, they'll talk about a hard battle and hopefully the birth of a great rivalry. I was impressed by the politeness of Bama fans, and I can honestly say we did the right thing coming to the SEC.

Did we have issues? Yes. We also have youth, and lots of it. This is a team that is only going to get better with time. We have a great conference, great foes, and that kind of greatness breeds greatness of its own. Our star is still ascendant in Texas. The future is bright for A&M football, and I'm damn glad I've got 2.5 seasons left in the tank while I'm still here.

Congrats to Bama. They showed guts, just like our boys did, and they came out with a deserved victory. Looking forward to a great and rich rivalry between our progams for many years to come.

Farmers Fight! Farmers Fight! Farmers Farmers Fight!

Great post..if Manziel sticks around another year and learns how to be a TRUE pocket passer, get some more talent on defense u guys are primed for a run....

thunderkyss
09-14-2013, 07:21 PM
I don't care what you call it, or how it translates. I sure do enjoy watching that boy play football.

htownfan32
09-14-2013, 07:24 PM
Also, for the record, as far as draft-related talk goes... McCarron looked sharp today. Whether it was our defense being bad or McCarron just being good, but boy did that guy look like a general on the field.

Stemp
09-14-2013, 07:24 PM
What evidence? His stats? The system lends itself to stats as we've seen countless other qb's in this system or similar systems Throw up monster stats. just b/c he's the 1st to be able to test it out in the SEC doesn't mean he's a great qb....

I'm gonna let u make it though u seem :kingkong::mad:

The stats are fairly equal between both teams. The difference in the game were the 2 INTs and the only one completely on Manziel is the one in the endzone.

You have already admitted you are Manziel hater. Even if he repeats as the Heisman winner you won't change your mind. Even if A&M wins out and wins a BCS bowl you won't change your mind. Even if A&M won this game, you wouldn't change your mind. So your opinion and objectivity is pretty much worthless.

disaacks3
09-14-2013, 07:26 PM
What evidence? His stats? The system lends itself to stats as we've seen countless other qb's in this system or similar systems Throw up monster stats. just b/c he's the 1st to be able to test it out in the SEC doesn't mean he's a great qb....

I'm gonna let u make it though u seem :kingkong::mad:

Ah yes, the system argument. The flaw in your plan is that those "system" quarterbacks always received a comeuppance against good competition. Manziel had those numbers against the top ranked team in the country for two consecutive years. You're a hater, we get it. At least try to be an honest hater.

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Mr teX
09-14-2013, 07:28 PM
The stats are fairly equal between both teams. The difference in the game were the 2 INTs and the only one completely on Manziel is the one in the endzone.

You have already admitted you are Manziel hater. Even if he repeats as the Heisman winner you won't change your mind. Even if A&M wins out and wins a BCS bowl you won't change your mind. Even if A&M won this game, you wouldn't change your mind. So your opinion and objectivity is pretty much worthless.

Lol....ok... But let's revisit that pick 6...how is that not on him? That ball should've never been thrown and it was badly thrown at that. How can you sit up here and say that was not on him?

thunderkyss
09-14-2013, 07:28 PM
I'm watching Okie state demolish my local Lamar Cardinals.

htownfan32
09-14-2013, 07:31 PM
Lol....ok... But let's revisit that pick 6...how is that not on him? That ball should've never been thrown and it was badly thrown at that. How can you sit up here and say that was not on him?

If I'm Manziel and I'm a betting man (and I'm sure he is) I'm going to go for those and trust the receiver to come down with it. When he throws to Mike Evans I am actually really calm because Evans will just punk the DB and come down with it anyway. I can't speak for certain (I had a great seat but I was screaming so loudly I can't remember the play accurately) but that ball looked like it bounced off the WR's palms and up in the air.

Hervoyel
09-14-2013, 07:40 PM
If I'm Manziel and I'm a betting man (and I'm sure he is) I'm going to go for those and trust the receiver to come down with it. When he throws to Mike Evans I am actually really calm because Evans will just punk the DB and come down with it anyway. I can't speak for certain (I had a great seat but I was screaming so loudly I can't remember the play accurately) but that ball looked like it bounced off the WR's palms and up in the air.


I'm not a fan of A&M or Manziel but I think throwing it up to a receiver he trusts and who routinely makes the play is hardly the thing to ding him for. I can't think of a single great QB at any level who doesn't do that if he's got a receiver he trusts to go up and get it.

Mr teX
09-14-2013, 07:41 PM
Ah yes, the system argument. The flaw in your plan is that those "system" quarterbacks always received a comeuppance against good competition. Manziel had those numbers against the top ranked team in the country for two consecutive years. You're a hater, we get it. At least try to be an honest hater.

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Yeah, cept Johnny boy gets to play with better talent than those other qbs did.....i also seem to remember case keenum balling out against a # 15 ok state ...and a couple of other ranked teams in his tenure at UH...pat white ballin out against a top 5 OU team in a BCS bowl...graham Harrell ballin out against a # 2 Texas team..what Johnny boy is doing isn't special...

To be honest I should be thanking him..there's been this pervading myth that these kinds of offenses can't work in the SEC.. He and A&M are showing that they can.

In the next few years, you'll start to see more of these spread systems In the SEC and finally everyone will see that the SEC Isn't exempt from what most of these other conferences have been facing. To be honest, I think Oregon will tear Bama a new ******* if they wind up meeting in the NC. This is the beginning of the end for SEC dominance.

htownfan32
09-14-2013, 07:45 PM
I'm not a fan of A&M or Manziel but I think throwing it up to a receiver he trusts and who routinely makes the play is hardly the thing to ding him for. I can't think of a single great QB at any level who doesn't do that if he's got a receiver he trusts to go up and get it.

Yep. And boy I hope Mike Evans doesn't leave with Johnny this year. Mike Evans is going to make Kyle Allen's day next year. He is a playmaking machine. Secure hands and makes the play. Hard to bring down. I can go on and on. The guy is a freak.

Pantherstang84
09-14-2013, 08:54 PM
Aggies were good today. Their defense is slowly morphing into the Houston Cougars D but they got a buttload of offense and while I personally don't care much for Johnny Paycheck he is a hell of a football player.

Aggie fans should be pleased. I was hoping they'd get the **** beat out of them to maybe shut up some of the "instant" (just add winning!) fans who have popped up in my circle recently but this will do.

This is where I am at. They have been as obnoxious as Cowboy fans. The football program at A&M has not won a conference championship in how many years now? 18? 19? Yet the way these folks talked their poop stinketh not. The sounds of crickets chirping since midway through the 2nd qtr has been peaceful bliss. They have gone radio silent.

HoustonFrog
09-14-2013, 09:08 PM
This is where I am at. They have been as obnoxious as Cowboy fans. The football program at A&M has not won a conference championship in how many years now? 18? 19? Yet the way these folks talked their poop stinketh not. The sounds of crickets chirping since midway through the 2nd qtr has been peaceful bliss. They have gone radio silent.

I'm with ya'll. I went to law school from 93-96 and some of my best friends were Aggies. I had to hear about Aggie recruiting and greatness for 3 years despite them not winning a whole lot of big games and having a handful of bowl wins and a nice stretch in the 80s. They ragged on me non-stop about TCU. For the last 15 years TCU has dominated comparatively to the Ags yet they still tell me that the TCU's Rose Bowl win and two BCS games don't count because of their competition...competition that included beating Big 12 teams and being in BCS games and winning one. Aggie fans are so over the top that they matter and they haven't for 2 decades until now. Despite being an idiot I like a cocky QB and Johnny Football but prefer Aggie fans get no satisfaction. They're a cult.

TexansSeminole
09-15-2013, 01:12 AM
Wisconsin just got screwed. Time expiring, they are on like the 15-20 yard line, down by two. Arizona State defender falls on the ground right where the ball should be spotted, then the ref spots the ball and tells Wisconson they can't snap it, time expires. Then the refs run off the field in fear. That was absolute robbery.

Showtime100
09-19-2013, 05:44 PM
Just stumbled across this article......

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/savannah-state-60-point-underdog-third-time-less-143627016--ncaaf.html

Savannah State is a 60-point underdog for the third time in less than two seasons

If you need an example of a college football team willing to get mauled for a significant payday, look no further than Savannah State.

The Tigers are 60 point underdogs to Miami on Saturday, the third time they've been on the wrong side of a 60 point (or more) point spread since 2012.

Last season, Savannah State opened against Oklahoma State and the line on that game was a whopping 65.5 points before kickoff. Oklahoma State covered easily, 84-0. So the following week, Savannah State was even a bigger underdog against Florida State.

That line opened at 70 points and went down to a meager 65 by kickoff. But Savannah State covered this time, only losing to Florida State 55-0. The line against Miami Saturday opened at 55, but quickly shot up to 60 points.

Will Miami score at least 60 points to cover? They haven't scored over 60 since 2002. Your best play may be with Savannah State.

For both games last season, Savannah State took home $860,000. It'll make $375,000 against Miami. That's over $1 million for three likely blowouts. Given how hard it can be to balance an athletic budget at a school in the FCS, you can't blame Savannah State for taking the large paydays when they present themselves, can you?


Just for grins I'm taking Miami -60. I'm not really betting due to my horrible luck when money is on the table, but just for grins.

TexansSeminole
09-19-2013, 09:07 PM
Tajh Boyd not having a great night but is avoiding costly mistakes against the wolfpack.

htownfan32
09-21-2013, 10:10 PM
Few thoughts on our game vs SMU.

Too many penalties. 13 for 100+ yards is unacceptable.

Defense looks better. They look more fiery, playing with a chip on their shoulder. Starters back and getting their feet wet.

Offense is as good as ever. Mike Evans was less there this game, but I think that's because he's Manziel's emergency go to guy and there were no emergency situations in this game. Malcome Kennedy had a good game, as did Ben Malena. Tra Carson is a wrecking ball of a RB.

Deshazor Everett will be playing on Sundays. He's a good CB.

Texn4life
10-12-2013, 03:44 PM
I didn't want to create a whole thread for him, but I'd love to have the receiver Reese from Baylor. His speed is incredible. I just don't want to burn another top 4 round pick on receiver.

Swearinger
10-12-2013, 06:08 PM
I didn't want to create a whole thread for him, but I'd love to have the receiver Reese from Baylor. His speed is incredible. I just don't want to burn another top 4 round pick on receiver.That whole team look's like they could run the 40 in 4.4 seconds.

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 06:30 PM
Case McCoy had a good game eh???

EllisUnit
10-12-2013, 06:32 PM
Case McCoy had a good game eh???

he still has one of the worst throws i have ever seen, he is horrible. The texas running game is the real reason the beat OU today

thunderkyss
10-12-2013, 06:39 PM
he still has one of the worst throws i have ever seen, he is horrible. The texas running game is the real reason the beat OU today

I only saw a little bit of the game while I was in the tire shop. That first huge TD & a few plays after.

Ranger Tom
10-27-2013, 10:49 AM
It's comforting that (most of) the college teams we root for around here are doing well. Really takes the sting out of the Texans' performance so far.

htownfan32
10-28-2013, 05:20 PM
Knowing I can count on A&M to win this weekend (granted, it's friggin UTEP lol) is a good salve over the pain of watching the Texans lose normally. However, I'm legitimately excited this weekend because I've been converted into the Faith of Keenum :D

Glad our D showed up to play against Vandy. Offense was shooting itself in the foot with all the fumbles. Manziel was solid except for the one interception. Mizzou looks beatable and LSU... well, that game is the wild card.

TexansSeminole
11-02-2013, 07:06 PM
#3 Florida State vs #7 Miami

Hoping Jaboo can keep it up!

steelbtexan
11-02-2013, 07:18 PM
#3 Florida State vs #7 Miami

Hoping Jaboo can keep it up!

Dont worry TS, if Winston doesn't turn the ball over it will be another easy W for the Seminoles.

badboy
11-02-2013, 08:51 PM
Dont worry TS, if Winston doesn't turn the ball over it will be another easy W for the Seminoles.
So much for that idea as Winston has thrown two INTs first half but holds lead.

TexansSeminole
11-02-2013, 08:52 PM
So much for that idea as Winston has thrown two INTs first half but holds lead.

They are making him settle for shorter routes and it's new to him. He looks a tad uncomfortable. We'll see how he adjusts.

Showtime100
11-07-2013, 06:47 PM
I think I'm going to go catch a little of the Oklahoma at Baylor game. Pretty nice Thursday night matchup!

76Texan
11-07-2013, 06:52 PM
I think I'm going to go catch a little of the Oklahoma at Baylor game. Pretty nice Thursday night matchup!

Note for me if there's much pressure on the Baylor QB; the guy has looked really good so far, but he barely saw any difficult situation.

If he can handle the pressure, this guy can be a little well-kept secret.

Can you watch the play of the OTs as well, please.

TexansSeminole
11-07-2013, 07:46 PM
I think I'm going to go catch a little of the Oklahoma at Baylor game. Pretty nice Thursday night matchup!

Not the most exciting game thus far.

All the talk about Baylor's offense and they really don't look all that impressive in the early portions of this game.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-07-2013, 08:25 PM
I hope Bob is watching Stanford vs Oregon.

Showtime100
11-07-2013, 08:36 PM
Note for me if there's much pressure on the Baylor QB; the guy has looked really good so far, but he barely saw any difficult situation.

If he can handle the pressure, this guy can be a little well-kept secret.

Can you watch the play of the OTs as well, please.

I'm watching what I can but can't catch a whole lot of the game as it's turning out. I have the Dallas Stars going on FSSW and now the Rockets. :)

Looks like Bryce Petty is handling the pressure just fine. OU was bringing outside pressure early but Petty began to use his ability to run on them and IMO the momentum he generated led to a 21-point explosion toward the end of the half. Baylor's defense is sick. They played a part in the Baylor uprising with a turnover. I don't know what the stats are but Baylor's D are playing great football tonight.

5-3 OU midway through the 2nd quarter........24-5 at the half.

aussie_texan
11-07-2013, 08:43 PM
in the next few years the texans should keep a good eye on winston, hundley and Hogan

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-07-2013, 08:43 PM
Stanford 14
Oregon 0

Texian
11-07-2013, 08:51 PM
I hope Bob is watching Stanford vs Oregon.

Yep, you don't want to miss on David Shaw like he took a pass on Jim Harbaugh. David Shaw Stanford teams are as well prepared as any Nick Saban Alabama team.

aussie_texan
11-07-2013, 09:06 PM
Yep, you don't want to miss on David Shaw like he took a pass on Jim Harbaugh. David Shaw Stanford teams are as well prepared as any Nick Saban Alabama team.

yeah i agree david shaw looks like a potentially great NFL coach. i like what he does

htownfan32
11-07-2013, 09:19 PM
So... Art Briles to USC? lol

TexansSeminole
11-07-2013, 09:21 PM
So much for Baylor's offense getting shut down.

And go Stanford!!

aussie_texan
11-07-2013, 09:55 PM
So much for Baylor's offense getting shut down.

And go Stanford!!

you should be very happy:evil:

Pollardized
11-07-2013, 10:00 PM
Art Briles, next head coach of the Houston Texans. The man has been successful at every stop, including perennial losing schools Baylor and UH.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-07-2013, 10:37 PM
26-7 Stanford

Dutchrudder
11-08-2013, 05:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XJXzWeo.jpg

htownfan32
11-09-2013, 11:55 AM
Last game in Kyle Field as it is today. Man, that feels unreal.

Kyle Field today:

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/fls/27300/site_graphics/Facilities/Kyle%20Field/5.jpg

Kyle Field as it will be my senior year:

http://media2.kxan.com//photo/2013/05/01/kyle-field-renovation_20130501201059_640_480.JPG




Seating capacity to improve from 82,589 to 102,500, making it the 3rd largest CFB stadium in the US.

htownfan32
11-09-2013, 12:32 PM
Reading something on my phone, I found this beautiful quote.

"You will soon call yourself old army because you remember a day when Kyle Field looked less like a theme park and more like a cold war era Siberian prison. Gaze upon her cold, hard majesty comrade. Do it, or be branded a capitalist traitor."

Texian
11-14-2013, 06:30 PM
Tonight is Ga Tech vs Clemson. Thur 11/14/13

Just a friendly suggestion to to keep an an eye on two DE who will be OLBs on Sunday, Vic Beasley w/ Clemson and Jeremiah Attachou w/ Ga Tech. Attachou has a strong resemblance to Brian Orakpo. Tajh Boyd and Sammy Watkins are always fun to watch. Beasley is a likely 1st RD and Attachou a 2nd RD.

TexansSeminole
11-14-2013, 06:44 PM
Tonight is Ga Tech vs Clemson. Thur 11/14/13

Just a friendly suggestion to to keep an an eye on two DE who will be OLBs on Sunday, Vic Beasley w/ Clemson and Jeremiah Attachou w/ Ga Tech. Attachou has a strong resemblance to Brian Orakpo. Tajh Boyd and Sammy Watkins are always fun to watch. Beasley is a likely 1st RD and Attachou a 2nd RD.

Yea, I like Attachou.

I don't see Clemson losing another game this year.

Texian
11-14-2013, 07:13 PM
Attachou and Beasley En Fuego!

TexansSeminole
11-14-2013, 07:21 PM
Last game in Kyle Field as it is today. Man, that feels unreal.

Kyle Field today:

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/fls/27300/site_graphics/Facilities/Kyle%20Field/5.jpg

Kyle Field as it will be my senior year:

http://media2.kxan.com//photo/2013/05/01/kyle-field-renovation_20130501201059_640_480.JPG


Seating capacity to improve from 82,589 to 102,500, making it the 3rd largest CFB stadium in the US.

That's awesome. I love seeing these huge college football stadiums. I went to a Tennessee game in 2004 and the attendance was 100k+, it was pretty cool. FSU's stadium capacity is around 84k. It would be cool if they expanded it, but I honestly don't see it moving average attendance.

htownfan32
11-14-2013, 08:30 PM
That's awesome. I love seeing these huge college football stadiums. I went to a Tennessee game in 2004 and the attendance was 100k+, it was pretty cool. FSU's stadium capacity is around 84k. It would be cool if they expanded it, but I honestly don't see it moving average attendance.

I've only seen Doak Campbell in pictures, but it's one hell of a stadium. Beautiful architecture. Reminds me of the Victorian era stands at Lord's Pavilion in England.

TexansSeminole
11-14-2013, 10:46 PM
I've only seen Doak Campbell in pictures, but it's one hell of a stadium. Beautiful architecture. Reminds me of the Victorian era stands at Lord's Pavilion in England.

Largest continuous brick structure in the U.S. I used to love living next to it.

TexansSeminole
11-16-2013, 02:20 PM
Andre Williams of Boston College is a great player. #1 running back as far as I am concerned. He can take a lot of punishment and he just wears on people. Always breaking tackles and has enough speed to break away.

He led the nation coming into this game against NC State, he has 288 yards rushing so far.

Florida State game just started. First defensive snap for the Seminoles, Christian Jones unblocked TFL. Yea, should probably block him.

Texian
11-16-2013, 07:16 PM
Hopefully I am getting ready to watch the next Head Coach of the Houston Texans beat the USC Trojans. Always impressed at how well David Shaw has the Stanford Cardinal so well prepared in all 3 phases of the game.

TexansSeminole
11-16-2013, 11:45 PM
Hopefully I am getting ready to watch the next Head Coach of the Houston Texans beat the USC Trojans. Always impressed at how well David Shaw has the Stanford Cardinal so well prepared in all 3 phases of the game.

You jinxed them. Stanford lost to USC 17-20.

htownfan32
11-22-2013, 05:55 PM
I am stoked for A&M vs. LSU this weekend. Watch party at my friend's house, big ass TV... it's going to be a blast.

I might be nuts, but I think A&M takes this one. Defense makes stops when it needs to, and actually played a lot better vs. Miss St. than the record indicates (garbage time points for Miss St.) I think if A&M hangs 42+ on LSU A&M wins.

TexansSeminole
11-22-2013, 06:39 PM
I am stoked for A&M vs. LSU this weekend. Watch party at my friend's house, big ass TV... it's going to be a blast.

I might be nuts, but I think A&M takes this one. Defense makes stops when it needs to, and actually played a lot better vs. Miss St. than the record indicates (garbage time points for Miss St.) I think if A&M hangs 42+ on LSU A&M wins.

I think A&M will win too. LSU's defense is not as great this year than they have been in the past and their offense is not very inventive. I don't think they keep pace.

Showtime100
11-23-2013, 04:58 PM
I am stoked for A&M vs. LSU this weekend. Watch party at my friend's house, big ass TV... it's going to be a blast.

I might be nuts, but I think A&M takes this one. Defense makes stops when it needs to, and actually played a lot better vs. Miss St. than the record indicates (garbage time points for Miss St.) I think if A&M hangs 42+ on LSU A&M wins.

As long as they are still Aggies and haven't become Texans you're in good hands. :D

htownfan32
11-23-2013, 08:15 PM
As long as they are still Aggies and haven't become Texans you're in good hands. :D

Spoke too soon :toropalm:

I have a sick gut feeling that this is gonna be a bad sports weekend for me. A win tomorrow vs. Jax would do a lot to lift my sporting spirits lol

TexansSeminole
11-30-2013, 08:56 AM
Rivalry Week.

Florida Florida State at noon.

Auburn Alabama at 3:30.

Clemson South Carolina night game.

Lots of other great games on today.

bah007
11-30-2013, 10:19 PM
I don't see his talents translating to the NFL very well but you have to really appreciate everything that Connor Shaw does for South Carolina. That dude is a hoss.

WolverineFan
11-30-2013, 10:53 PM
I don't see his talents translating to the NFL very well but you have to really appreciate everything that Connor Shaw does for South Carolina. That dude is a hoss.

It's a crime that people are considering McCarron for the Heisman, but not Shaw.

bah007
11-30-2013, 11:11 PM
It's a crime that people are considering McCarron for the Heisman, but not Shaw.

Well we can scratch that after today, despite McCarron having a decent game.

It's Winston's to lose, but the allegations against him could have an impact. Braxton Miller will get a big bump after today.

Andre Williams got hurt today and didn't put big numbers up for BC and that's all the reason voters need to keep him out.

I wouldn't be surprised if the final three is Winston, Miller, and Jordan Lynch. Maybe Shaw or McCarron gets invited as part of a career achievement campaign.

Texian
11-30-2013, 11:14 PM
I keep hearing that Texas A&M has one of the best OL in college football. I have to say in the last 2 weeks the A&M OL has been abused and manhandled by LSU and Missouri.

bah007
11-30-2013, 11:18 PM
I keep hearing that Texas A&M has one of the best OL in college football. I have to say in the last 2 weeks the A&M OL has been abused and manhandled by LSU and Missouri.

A&M's OL is overrated by people who want to downplay how good Manziel is, but it's still pretty good.

LSU and Missouri are both really good in the trenches though, make no mistake.

A&M's real problem is that their playcalling can be really obvious at times, and if you can take their WRs off their routes and keep Manziel in the pocket it takes away their explosive plays.

WolverineFan
11-30-2013, 11:56 PM
A&M's OL is overrated by people who want to downplay how good Manziel is, but it's still pretty good.

LSU and Missouri are both really good in the trenches though, make no mistake.

A&M's real problem is that their playcalling can be really obvious at times, and if you can take their WRs off their routes and keep Manziel in the pocket it takes away their explosive plays.

Their playcalling has been bad all year. They had trouble protecting Manziel, but still ran the ball effectively with the RB's tonight. Yet they called 60% pass plays in a game that was a one possession game the entire night. Mizzou threw the ball more effectively, but still leaned on the run game to carry their offense to a win.

This has been a problem for A&M all season.

TexansSeminole
12-01-2013, 08:54 AM
Their playcalling has been bad all year. They had trouble protecting Manziel, but still ran the ball effectively with the RB's tonight. Yet they called 60% pass plays in a game that was a one possession game the entire night. Mizzou threw the ball more effectively, but still leaned on the run game to carry their offense to a win.

This has been a problem for A&M all season.

Mizzouri just took away their screen and short passing game and batted balls down at the line and it was easy. Manziel was also inaccurate with the short stuff toward the end of the game, once running around when Evans was open, throwing late and high to him, then behind on a screen pass that Mizzouri had read anyway. Almost missed Labheart running wide open on a crossing route but Manziel finally saw him after running around in a circle and after Labheart was doing jumping jacks.

I was watching with my family and nobody understands why Manziel is even an NFL prospect at all. He was having trouble just getting the ball past the defensive line. I wouldn't draft Manziel in the first 3 maybe 4 rounds. I don't see anything about him that says NFL. Not interested at all. Mike Evans looked frustrated with the inaccuracy last night.

TAMU will find someone else at QB equally as good or better at actually playing QB rather quickly if I had to guess. Their scheme gets people open and makes it easy on playmakers. You could see that last night, even when balls were getting batted down at the LOS.

Mr teX
12-01-2013, 10:26 PM
Mizzouri just took away their screen and short passing game and batted balls down at the line and it was easy. Manziel was also inaccurate with the short stuff toward the end of the game, once running around when Evans was open, throwing late and high to him, then behind on a screen pass that Mizzouri had read anyway. Almost missed Labheart running wide open on a crossing route but Manziel finally saw him after running around in a circle and after Labheart was doing jumping jacks.

I was watching with my family and nobody understands why Manziel is even an NFL prospect at all. He was having trouble just getting the ball past the defensive line. I wouldn't draft Manziel in the first 3 maybe 4 rounds. I don't see anything about him that says NFL. Not interested at all. Mike Evans looked frustrated with the inaccuracy last night.

TAMU will find someone else at QB equally as good or better at actually playing QB rather quickly if I had to guess. Their scheme gets people open and makes it easy on playmakers. You could see that last night, even when balls were getting batted down at the LOS.

But he's the most exciting player in college football.... if you enjoy watching that backyard football crap from your qb....i personally enjoy watching a qb masterfully orchestrate an offense....the chess game of it all...the defense countering ..the qb counters back.....

But the bolded is why i dont put much weight into his or really any spread qb's numbers....often times the scheme does most of the heavy lifting for qbs in those types of systems and its easy as hell to look good as a qb in those types of systems.

Texian
12-02-2013, 07:49 PM
As I sit here watching Russell Wilson vs Drew Brees on MNF, I'm thinking Johnny Manziel vs Aaron Murray.

revan
12-02-2013, 07:53 PM
As I sit here watching Russell Wilson vs Drew Brees on MNF, I'm thinking Johnny Manziel vs Aaron Murray.

Who is Murray and who is Manziel?.

Texian
12-02-2013, 08:08 PM
Who is Murray and who is Manziel?.

Manziel is Wilson; Murray is Brees

tonite is 6' or < ball. Wilson is 5'10", Brees is 6'. Manziel and Murray are both close to 6'

bah007
12-02-2013, 09:25 PM
LOL Manziel is Russell Wilson just because they are similar height?

They are literally not comparable in any way besides their height and that they are both athletic.

I don't buy that Murray is the next Brees either but at least they are somewhat similar.

Texian
12-02-2013, 10:33 PM
LOL Manziel is Russell Wilson just because they are similar height?

They are literally not comparable in any way besides their height and that they are both athletic.

I don't buy that Murray is the next Brees either but at least they are somewhat similar.

I am going to ignore this simply becasue you know better.

bah007
12-02-2013, 10:35 PM
I am going to ignore this simply becasue you know better.

Couldn't resist taking a shot at Manziel :runaway:

Texian
12-02-2013, 10:40 PM
Couldn't resist taking a shot at Manziel :runaway:

why I didn't bite and oops Gruden just agreed to the Manziel Wilson comparison. If Bevell became HC of Texans I could see him drafting Manziel.

bah007
12-02-2013, 10:42 PM
I don't see it at all and gosh I hope not.

Love the way the Seahawks draft players though.

Texian
12-03-2013, 08:41 AM
Russell Wilson made Johnny Football some money last night.

bah007
12-03-2013, 11:18 AM
You're actually being serious with the Manziel/Wilson stuff? I thought you were kidding...

Texian
12-03-2013, 11:51 AM
You're actually being serious with the Manziel/Wilson stuff? I thought you were kidding...

I wasn't kidding and I don't think Gruden was kidding either, as much as the Manziel haters hate to hear this. And the scary thought is Manziel could be better than Wilson. Am I kidding or am I not?

bah007
12-03-2013, 12:10 PM
Not everyone is a Manziel hater. I respect the hell out of that kid for what he has done at the college level, but his skills do not translate to the NFL. And to say that he could be better than Wilson just makes you look silly.

The Manziel lovers are just as bad as the Tebow lovers. Fewer in number, but close to home unfortunately.

Mr teX
12-03-2013, 12:43 PM
I wasn't kidding and I don't Gruden was kidding either, as much as the Manziel haters hate to hear this. And the scary thought is Manziel could be better than Wilson. Am I kidding or am I not?

I know you're not kidding...but i don't know how many people would actually take you serious though...

Wilson's game is light years smoother than Manziel's....that ain't something he picked up while in the pros either...dude had that calmness & poise in college too....The main reason i liked him coming out..


I tell you what too, Bridgewater's got that same poise.

WolverineFan
12-03-2013, 01:06 PM
Russell Wilson made Johnny Football some money last night.

It's up to JFF to make his own money. Wilson and Brees have opened the door for smaller guys to get a chance at QB. But nobody is going to hand Manziel squat just because Russell Wilson is a great QB.

I agree with the Manziel/Wilson comparison as far as size and athleticism goes. That's as far as I see the comparison going though. Wilson has unnatural poise and leadership skills, a much stronger arm, puts amazing touch on his passes, great accuracy, makes ridiculously quick decisions, and has much more experience as a QB and as a QB in a pro system.

Manziel compares more favorably to Eric Crouch than Russell Wilson. And I'm not saying this as a knock on Manziel's passing ability. He's a much better passer than Crouch ever was and I don't see him busting like Crouch did. But comparing Manziel to Wilson is going straight to the absolute best case scenario.

WolverineFan
12-03-2013, 01:10 PM
I know you're not kidding...but i don't know how many people would actually take you serious though...

Wilson's game is light years smoother than Manziel's....that ain't something he picked up while in the pros either...dude had that calmness & poise in college too....The main reason i liked him coming out..


I tell you what too, Bridgewater's got that same poise.

That's the main reason why I've been such a big proponent of Bridgewater. He has shown all the tools that you look for when drafting a QB, but it's the poise and intangibles that take him to the next level as a prospect. A lot of guys have tools and a lot of guys have intangibles. It's rare for a guy to have both.

infantrycak
12-03-2013, 01:15 PM
It's up to JFF to make his own money. Wilson and Brees have opened the door for smaller guys to get a chance at QB. But nobody is going to hand Manziel squat just because Russell Wilson is a great QB.

Gruden made pretty clear in his comments about Wilson and Bevell last night that Wilson was not some sort of giant opening up of the floodgates to all people with similar stature and athleticism. His anecdote was Bevell sought advice and was told not to worry about his size if he thought he was a truly special person and player.

I am just passing that along. Others can argue over whether Manziel fits that same standard.

Texian
12-03-2013, 01:22 PM
It's up to JFF to make his own money. Wilson and Brees have opened the door for smaller guys to get a chance at QB. But nobody is going to hand Manziel squat just because Russell Wilson is a great QB.

I agree with the Manziel/Wilson comparison as far as size and athleticism goes. That's as far as I see the comparison going though. Wilson has unnatural poise and leadership skills, a much stronger arm, puts amazing touch on his passes, great accuracy, makes ridiculously quick decisions, and has much more experience as a QB and as a QB in a pro system.

Manziel compares more favorably to Eric Crouch than Russell Wilson. And I'm not saying this as a knock on Manziel's passing ability. He's a much better passer than Crouch ever was and I don't see him busting like Crouch did. But comparing Manziel to Wilson is going straight to the absolute best case scenario.

Spoken like the true Manziel hater that you're. I wouldn't have expected anything less. FLASH: Just because you don't think it will happen doesn't make it so. All it takes is one GM/HC to see and think that Manziel could do what Wilson is doing and you're wrong and the odds are against you being right. So yeah there is a good chance Wilson made Manziel some money, regardless of what you would like to be the outcome or how much you hate the thought of it being so.

WolverineFan
12-03-2013, 01:38 PM
Spoken like the true Manziel hater that you're. I wouldn't have expected anything less. FLASH: Just because you don't think it will happen doesn't make it so. All it takes is one GM/HC to see and think that Manziel could do what Wilson is doing and you're wrong and the odds are against you being right. So yeah there is a good chance Wilson made Manziel some money, regardless of what you would like to be the outcome or how much you hate the thought of it being so.

LOL you are so ridiculous. It is impossible for you to have an honest argument about Johnny Manziel. I have been open about how I attended A&M and that I love JFF as a college player, but I just don't see his skills translating to the NFL. Every time your only response is "Manziel hater" when that's not even close to the truth.

You compare Manziel to Wilson because they are similar in size and athleticism, but you ignore the fact that they have different skill sets and don't play similar at all.

I could compare Tim Tebow to Andrew Luck because they are the same size and similar athletes, but I don't because they don't have the same skills and play nothing alike.

Texian
12-03-2013, 03:58 PM
LOL you are so ridiculous. It is impossible for you to have an honest argument about Johnny Manziel. I have been open about how I attended A&M and that I love JFF as a college player, but I just don't see his skills translating to the NFL. Every time your only response is "Manziel hater" when that's not even close to the truth.

You compare Manziel to Wilson because they are similar in size and athleticism, but you ignore the fact that they have different skill sets and don't play similar at all.

I could compare Tim Tebow to Andrew Luck because they are the same size and similar athletes, but I don't because they don't have the same skills and play nothing alike.

I simply made an innocent statement that Wilson made JF some money and then you went off on one of your tangents. So whose ridiculous? Why can't you just say this guy thinks JF compares to Wilson and leave it at that without completely losing it. DO you need the attention? There are many others who also consider the comparison. Do you like trolling my post? FLASH: Not everyone thinks like you or agrees with you and that doesn't make them wrong. NOTE: You keep ignoring that Gruden was saying the same thing. Why don't you take it up with Jon.

Texian
12-03-2013, 04:08 PM
Gruden made pretty clear in his comments about Wilson and Bevell last night that Wilson was not some sort of giant opening up of the floodgates to all people with similar stature and athleticism. His anecdote was Bevell sought advice and was told not to worry about his size if he thought he was a truly special person and player.

I am just passing that along. Others can argue over whether Manziel fits that same standard.

I was referencing when Tirico asked Gruden if Johhny Manziel compared to Russell Wilson? Gruden was effusive in his praise for Manziel, how much he did compare to Wilson and how the league was moving in the direction with this style of play.

Showtime100
12-07-2013, 05:06 PM
Eat Baylor's dust, Texas. :snowday:

Showtime100
12-07-2013, 08:27 PM
So, anybody want a piece of Michigan State? Man oh man. I picked them to win tonight, but I wouldn't have predicted 17-0 in the 2nd quarter.

MSU ain't BS'ing.

gafftop
12-07-2013, 08:28 PM
Ohio State is a fraud. Thank goodness we don't have to see Florida State be crowned national champ after beating Ohio State.

I think Auburn will run all over Florida State.

BCS sucks.

Showtime100
12-07-2013, 08:31 PM
Ohio State is a fraud. Thank goodness we don't have to see Florida State be crowned national champ after beating Ohio State.

I think Auburn will run all over Florida State.

BCS sucks.

Just posted in the other thread. MSU ain't BS'ing. I picked them tonight but geezus.

I don't think FSU is a bad team. In fact I would love to see them play MSU, but Stanford will screw that up.

Rey
12-07-2013, 08:31 PM
Gruden praises everyone.

Showtime100
12-07-2013, 08:32 PM
Gruden praises everyone.

Is he calling the game? I have the sound off.

WolverineFan
12-07-2013, 08:33 PM
Ohio State is a paper tiger, but we all knew that. Hopefully Sparty keeps it up.

FSU vs. Auburn would be a good game.

Playoffs
12-07-2013, 08:34 PM
:smiliepalm:http://www.timesdispatch.com/don-t-talk-about-that-no-hitter-and-other-unwritten/article_fb6a423c-30c9-11e3-858a-0019bb30f31a.html?mode=jqm










j/k

Rey
12-07-2013, 08:38 PM
I want joyner from fsu on the texans. I wanted the honey badger last year and I think joyner is similar, but better in some aspects.

Hopefully this new staff picks players better. Some ofnour draft picks have been terrible.

dtran04
12-07-2013, 08:39 PM
Winston is awesome but his release is super slow. Has a pretty big windup. It's not Leftwich slow but close.

Rey
12-07-2013, 08:40 PM
Is he calling the game? I have the sound off.

Ha ha...no
Referncing the earlier convo about gruden

Showtime100
12-07-2013, 08:44 PM
Ha ha...no
Referncing the earlier convo about gruden

Lol, I realized after I posted how stupid a question that was. I forgot the game is on FOX. :embarrass

htownfan32
12-07-2013, 11:00 PM
Michigan State has been one of my teams (obviously second to A&M) because my uncle is an alum. It was great to see the Spartans win, and it's even better because now the SEC is back in the NCG.

gafftop
12-07-2013, 11:09 PM
Just posted in the other thread. MSU ain't BS'ing. I picked them tonight but geezus.

I don't think FSU is a bad team. In fact I would love to see them play MSU, but Stanford will screw that up.

I think FSU deserves shot. I just did not want Ohio State to be the opponent.

bah007
12-08-2013, 12:05 AM
My best guess for the BCS games-

National Championship: Florida St vs. Auburn

Rose Bowl: Michigan St vs. Stanford

Orange Bowl: Alabama vs. Clemson

Sugar Bowl: Ohio St vs. Oregon

Fiesta Bowl: Baylor vs. UCF

WolverineFan
12-08-2013, 07:47 PM
My best guess for the BCS games-

National Championship: Florida St vs. Auburn

Rose Bowl: Michigan St vs. Stanford

Orange Bowl: Alabama vs. Clemson

Sugar Bowl: Ohio St vs. Oregon

Fiesta Bowl: Baylor vs. UCF

You were close. BCS games just announced...


National Championship: Florida State vs. Auburn

Rose Bowl: Michigan State vs. Stanford

Orange Bowl: Clemson vs. Ohio State

Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Oklahoma

Fiesta Bowl: Baylor vs. UCF

htownfan32
12-08-2013, 08:04 PM
You were close. BCS games just announced...


National Championship: Florida State vs. Auburn

Rose Bowl: Michigan State vs. Stanford

Orange Bowl: Clemson vs. Ohio State

Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Oklahoma

Fiesta Bowl: Baylor vs. UCF

My predictions:

NCG: Auburn in a close game. 3-7 points will be the difference. Could go either way.

Rose Bowl: Close game 3-7 Stanford though I'll be pulling for Sparty.

Orange: I think Clemson is the better team. Clemson wins by a touchdown or more

Sugar Bowl: Alabama, and it won't be real pretty. 2 touchdowns or more.

Fiesta Bowl: Baylor blows UCF out. 3 touchdown or more difference.

WolverineFan
12-08-2013, 09:10 PM
My predictions:

NCG: Auburn in a close game. 3-7 points will be the difference. Could go either way.

Rose Bowl: Close game 3-7 Stanford though I'll be pulling for Sparty.

Orange: I think Clemson is the better team. Clemson wins by a touchdown or more

Sugar Bowl: Alabama, and it won't be real pretty. 2 touchdowns or more.

Fiesta Bowl: Baylor blows UCF out. 3 touchdown or more difference.

Florida State
Stanford
Ohio State
Alabama (big)
Baylor