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JCTexan
08-26-2013, 08:06 PM
Texans have cut RB Ray Graham, QB Stephen McGee, LB Elliot Coffey, FB Zach Boren, OG Bryan Collins, OT Nick Mondek, DE Earl Okine, CB Travis Howard, P Andrew Shapiro, LB Ja'Gared Davis, and TE Adam Schiltz.

Link (https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/372141196191076352)

Texn4life
08-26-2013, 08:13 PM
Oh no! Not Shapiro!!!!

phantom17
08-26-2013, 08:42 PM
Damn! They cut Shapiro! Hope nobody pick him up!

Thorn
08-26-2013, 08:54 PM
Why would we need two punters?

Texn4life
08-26-2013, 08:56 PM
Why would we need two punters?

My post was sarcasm because of all the hype he got. He got off a terrible yesterday. I am surprised he wasn't kept around to punt Thursday though and let Shane rest. Guess Kubiak wants to give him a chance at a job.

phantom17
08-26-2013, 08:57 PM
At least stash him for the future, in IR.

TejasTom
08-26-2013, 09:00 PM
At least no WTFs.

Would've been a good story if Coffey made it.

potisyourfriend
08-26-2013, 09:07 PM
Ed Reed should've made the list. Seriously, why did they sign this old man? I know they won't cut a signed player with that contract but gees they could've got a legit #2 WR opposite AJ.

rmartin65
08-26-2013, 09:12 PM
Ed Reed should've made the list. Seriously, why did they sign this old man? I know they won't cut a signed player with that contract but gees they could've got a legit #2 WR opposite AJ.

Your username is quite appropriate.

Ryan
08-26-2013, 09:13 PM
Ed Reed should've made the list. Seriously, why did they sign this old man? I know they won't cut a signed player with that contract but gees they could've got a legit #2 WR opposite AJ.


Is this a troll or...

potisyourfriend
08-26-2013, 09:16 PM
No troll, I just don't post much. People complain about the local sports channel being homers but it's cool on here? If you guys really think Ed Reed is going to be worth a crap you're in for a rude awakening. He's almost old enough to file for Social Security,

amazing80
08-26-2013, 09:18 PM
Is this a troll or...

sadly no, hes making it clear he doesn't like reed and barely likes the Texans

Thorn
08-26-2013, 09:20 PM
My post was sarcasm because of all the hype he got. He got off a terrible yesterday. I am surprised he wasn't kept around to punt Thursday though and let Shane rest. Guess Kubiak wants to give him a chance at a job.

Kubiak and Rick Smith both makes statements about trying to help the players even if they don't make the Texans roster. You could be right.

potisyourfriend
08-26-2013, 09:21 PM
sadly no, hes making it clear he doesn't like reed and barely likes the Texans

I actually love the Texans but being critical is completely different. I think the Ed signing was one of the worst. Did they even give him a physical?

Tailgate
08-26-2013, 09:24 PM
No troll, I just don't post much. People complain about the local sports channel being homers but it's cool on here? If you guys really think Ed Reed is going to be worth a crap you're in for a rude awakening. He's almost old enough to file for Social Security,

http://i.imgur.com/H7R4WCy.gif

Thorn
08-26-2013, 09:24 PM
potisyourfriend has a join date of 2007, if he was going to troll us, he'd have done it by now. He's just expressing his opinion of Ed Reed, which frankly, I'm not that far from being in line with.

potisyourfriend
08-26-2013, 09:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/H7R4WCy.gif

FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pollardized
08-26-2013, 09:32 PM
potisyourfriend has a join date of 2007, if he was going to troll us, he'd have done it by now. He's just expressing his opinion of Ed Reed, which frankly, I'm not that far from being in line with.

That's cause you are both pot heads lol!!!!

honored82
08-26-2013, 09:42 PM
Isn't Nick Mondek our last years draft pick. Cant believe Kubiak cut a draft pick.

DX-TEX
08-26-2013, 09:46 PM
Still have to cut 3 more by tomorrow.

TejasTom
08-26-2013, 09:49 PM
Isn't Nick Mondek our last years draft pick. Cant believe Kubiak cut a draft pick.

We cut him last year in hopes of putting him on PS but Eagles claimed him off waivers.

We traded Jeff Mael to Eagles for Mondek last week.

Pollardized
08-26-2013, 09:51 PM
We cut him last year in hopes of putting him on PS but Eagles claimed him off waivers.

We traded Jeff Mael to Eagles for Mondek last week.

No, Nate Menkin.

Brisco_County
08-26-2013, 09:51 PM
Isn't Nick Mondek our last years draft pick. Cant believe Kubiak cut a draft pick.



He's going back to the practice squad.

Seegara
08-26-2013, 09:53 PM
Damn! They cut Shapiro! Hope nobody pick him up!
It urinates me off too. Of course somebody's going to snap him up. Why didn't they put him on IR for a hangnail?

Wolf6151
08-27-2013, 02:12 AM
You don't IR or PS a Punter, but I'm pretty sure we've got him on speed dial.

Scooter
08-27-2013, 03:15 AM
Ed Reed should've made the list. Seriously, why did they sign this old man? I know they won't cut a signed player with that contract but gees they could've got a legit #2 WR opposite AJ.

the single biggest weakness on the team is at centerfield against elite quarterbacks like brady and manning. if ed reed sits half the season, misses 30 tackles, and splits time with the rookie it wont mean a thing. he's here to teach, to provide leadership on the field, and to win playoff games against pass first teams. even as a dinosaur ed reed scares the bajeezus out of the best quarterbacks, and with all that old age he knows the current elites better than anyone.

as for shapiro (i know yall are joking around), i bet the texans are selfishly hoping he goes unclaimed this year so they can grab him again next offseason. kid's got talent, but lechler is still probably the best punter in the game.

bckey
08-27-2013, 05:59 AM
People complain about the local sports channel being homers but it's cool on here?

QFT

LEATHERHEAD
08-27-2013, 07:00 AM
I hate paying for players who dont play a down:foottap:

TejasTom
08-27-2013, 08:15 AM
No, Nate Menkin.

Whoops...got them confused. Thx.

Blake
08-27-2013, 08:56 AM
Ed Reed should've made the list. Seriously, why did they sign this old man? I know they won't cut a signed player with that contract but gees they could've got a legit #2 WR opposite AJ.

I actually love the Texans but being critical is completely different. I think the Ed signing was one of the worst. Did they even give him a physical?

Being critical is fine when you back it up with subsistence. Dont just say Ed sucks and end your post.

And then you go on to say we should have used the Ed Reed money to signed a legit #2 WR but dont expand on who, or even touch on the fact that Hopkins is sloted to be the #2 opposite AJ.

Vance87
08-27-2013, 09:17 AM
It urinates me off too. Of course somebody's going to snap him up. Why didn't they put him on IR for a hangnail?

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False Start
08-27-2013, 09:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/H7R4WCy.gif

"What if I pretend like I'm Jamaican"

steelbtexan
08-27-2013, 09:29 AM
Being critical is fine when you back it up with substinance. Dont just say Ed sucks and end your post.

And then you go on to say we should have used the Ed Reed money to signed a legit #2 WR but dont expand on who, or even touch on the fact that Hopkins is sloted to be the #2 opposite AJ.

I just hope Ed makes thru the last part of the season and the playoffs. That's what he was signed for. I've got my doubts.

My 2 problems with the Hopkins pick is 1. He had a prior concussion history and with God'ell that will probably shorten his career. 2. Stills, a 5th rd pick is a much better value than Hopkins in the 1st rd. Stills looks like a stud too me.

I had Stiils in a few of my mocks. He's as talented as any WR in that draft.

speedfreek
08-27-2013, 09:41 AM
Signed, coach from SEC school regarding redshirt player

:doot:

TJ

I hate paying for players who dont play a down:foottap:

infantrycak
08-27-2013, 09:48 AM
Stills, a 5th rd pick is a much better value than Hopkins in the 1st rd. Stills looks like a stud too me.

I had Stiils in a few of my mocks. He's as talented as any WR in that draft.

And when he is gone when it gets to the Texans' turn in the 5th then what (other than lots of cries of "they didn't do anything")? Planning before the draft to get a certain player in the 5th is a fool's errand.

beerlover
08-27-2013, 09:51 AM
And when he is gone when it gets to the Texans' turn in the 5th then what (other than lots of cries of "they didn't do anything")? Planning before the draft to get a certain player in the 5th is a fool's errand.

we are a ship full of fools then :barman:

infantrycak
08-27-2013, 09:55 AM
we are a ship full of fools then :barman:

I don't mean that for mock drafting. But as a team you can have preferences but the fact is the uncertainty increases as the draft goes on so planning on a specific player in a late round is risky.

Blake
08-27-2013, 09:58 AM
I just hope Ed makes thru the last part of the season and the playoffs. That's what he was signed for. I've got my doubts.

I hope so too.

My 2 problems with the Hopkins pick is 1. He had a prior concussion history and with God'ell that will probably shorten his career. 2. Stills, a 5th rd pick is a much better value than Hopkins in the 1st rd. Stills looks like a stud too me.

I had Stiils in a few of my mocks. He's as talented as any WR in that draft.

I cant find any prior in-game concussion history. The only thing that comes up is a mild concussion from a car accident before a bowl game.

I also think its not fair to base a teams draft selection up against another teams steal. I think Stills was rated 3rd round and went in 5th. You cant make the conclusion that the Texans knew he was going to be there in the 5th. They took their guy who is bigger, taller, longer, has bigger hands and catches everything around him and moved on to other needs. Stills on the other hand is smaller, has been noted to drop easy passes and has off the field issues.

Lastly, these guys have played in a couple of pre-season games. Lets see how things shake out over the next couple of years and then we will see who was the better value. It very well could be Stills. But it also could be that he is out of the league in 2 years due to off the field issues.

TexanBacker93
08-27-2013, 10:26 AM
I just hope Ed makes thru the last part of the season and the playoffs. That's what he was signed for. I've got my doubts.

My 2 problems with the Hopkins pick is 1. He had a prior concussion history and with God'ell that will probably shorten his career. 2. Stills, a 5th rd pick is a much better value than Hopkins in the 1st rd. Stills looks like a stud too me.

I had Stiils in a few of my mocks. He's as talented as any WR in that draft.

I think Stills can and will be a good receiver, but I think Hopkins has the ability to be a #1 in a few years when Johnson retires. I think Stills tops out at a #3 for a good passing team or a #2 in a team that doesn't have much depth.

As for Hopkins' history of concussions he had one minor one in college (that is reported) from a car accident. Stills also missed a game in college with a concussion. Once a player makes it through college I'm betting there are a lot of players that have had concussions that aren't even disclosed.

IDEXAN
08-27-2013, 10:38 AM
I think Stills can and will be a good receiver, but I think Hopkins has the ability to be a #1 in a few years when Johnson retires. I think Stills tops out at a #3 for a good passing team or a #2 in a team that doesn't have much depth.

As for Hopkins' history of concussions he had one minor one in college (that is reported) from a car accident. Stills also missed a game in college with a concussion. Once a player makes it through college I'm betting there are a lot of players that have had concussions that aren't even disclosed.
The really scary thing about the concussion Hopkins suffered was that it didn't involve a big hit, he just bounced his head on the playing field, and that didn't appear to be very violent. Then there's the issue of how long it's taking him to recover. And this is his second. That we know of ? Not good.
I'm telling you, Cordelle Patterson really looked good that night we played the Vikings so I dunno, did they draft the best WR on the Board back in April ?

Porky
08-27-2013, 10:47 AM
Being critical is fine when you back it up with subsistence. Dont just say Ed sucks and end your post.

And then you go on to say we should have used the Ed Reed money to signed a legit #2 WR but dont expand on who, or even touch on the fact that Hopkins is sloted to be the #2 opposite AJ.

So you are saying that when being critical, we should also eat? :chef:

drs23
08-27-2013, 11:14 AM
I just hope Ed makes thru the last part of the season and the playoffs. That's what he was signed for. I've got my doubts.

My 2 problems with the Hopkins pick is 1. He had a prior concussion history and with God'ell that will probably shorten his career. 2. Stills, a 5th rd pick is a much better value than Hopkins in the 1st rd. Stills looks like a stud too me.

I had Stiils in a few of my mocks. He's as talented as any WR in that draft.

Probably OT for this thread but you were really beating the table for D. Rodgers too and the Bills cut him loose in the first wave.

Playoffs
08-27-2013, 11:31 AM
http://thinkgospel.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/hindsight-rear-view-future-past-road-mirror.jpg

DX-TEX
08-27-2013, 11:37 AM
http://thinkgospel.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/hindsight-rear-view-future-past-road-mirror.jpg

I don't get it

76Texan
08-27-2013, 11:38 AM
Sounds like Rogers has a difficult time learning things.
I read that during camp, the QBs had to keep directing him to his spot.
If he doesn't know where he's supposed to line up, how does he know what route he's supposed to run?

I wonder what kind of drug(s) that be failed the test for when he got kicked off the team at Tenn?
Maybe it messed up his brain?

What a waste of talent.

I had serious doubt that the Texans would want to touch such a prospect.

76Texan
08-27-2013, 11:40 AM
http://thinkgospel.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/hindsight-rear-view-future-past-road-mirror.jpg


Hit the road, Jack!

The Pencil Neck
08-27-2013, 11:46 AM
Isn't Nick Mondek our last years draft pick. Cant believe Kubiak cut a draft pick.

Like Dorin Dickerson and Cheta Ozougwu? (Both of whom are in the NFL at this point, btw.)

Didn't he cut Mondek last year and put him on the PS for a while?

76Texan
08-27-2013, 11:48 AM
The really scary thing about the concussion Hopkins suffered was that it didn't involve a big hit, he just bounced his head on the playing field, and that didn't appear to be very violent. Then there's the issue of how long it's taking him to recover. And this is his second. That we know of ? Not good.
I'm telling you, Cordelle Patterson really looked good that night we played the Vikings so I dunno, did they draft the best WR on the Board back in April ?

Patterson is very dynamic with the ball in his hands.
His interview was worrisome though.

It was a deep class at WR.
So far, all the guys that were drafted (that we discussed in the college football and mock draft forums) are having good camps - except for a couple that has some sort of injury.)

We won't know their real value for a few more years, however.

76Texan
08-27-2013, 11:52 AM
Like Dorin Dickerson and Cheta Ozougwu? (Both of whom are in the NFL at this point, btw.)

Didn't he cut Mondek last year and put him on the PS for a while?

They sure did.
He got cut on the 26th last year and was picked up by the Raiders
The Texans resigned him to the PS when the Raiders released him in October.

76Texan
08-27-2013, 11:55 AM
The Texans sent Trindon on a holiday, too.
:headhurts:

PHILLYTEXANFAN
08-27-2013, 11:57 AM
I was hoping Keo got cut, but wont due to the Ed Reed Saga

Rey
08-27-2013, 12:16 PM
I don't get it

Hindsight is 20/20

76Texan
08-27-2013, 12:29 PM
Hindsight is 20/20

:clap:

I think you're right!

Blake
08-27-2013, 12:30 PM
I was hoping Keo got cut, but wont due to the Ed Reed Saga

Why do people keep hoping we cut Keo? He was selected as special teams captain last year. The last thing you want to do is cut players who can fill in for your starters AND play special teams well enough to be voted captain.

Playoffs
08-27-2013, 01:19 PM
Didn't he cut Mondek last year and put him on the PS for a while?
Yes. Mondek was outplayed by Andrew Gardner, who has had a nice preseason.

OzzO
08-27-2013, 01:22 PM
Texans have cut RB Ray Graham, QB Stephen McGee, LB Elliot Coffey, FB Zach Boren, OG Bryan Collins, OT Nick Mondek, DE Earl Okine, CB Travis Howard, P Andrew Shapiro, LB Ja'Gared Davis, and TE Adam Schiltz.

Link (https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/372141196191076352)

No Schiltz?!?!

:runaway:

Sorry... just one more for the road with a great last name.

76Texan
08-27-2013, 01:25 PM
No Schiltz?!?!

:runaway:

Sorry... just one more for the road with a great last name.

Zach got cut 'cause he's Boring?

Playoffs
08-27-2013, 02:28 PM
Dave Zangaro ‏@DZangaro
DE David Hunter and WR Mike Smith have been waived/injured. If they clear, they revert to IR and injury settlement can then be reached.

Texans cut David Hunter and Michael Smith. Alec Lemon places on IR.
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Alec Lemon was placed directly on IR, which means they didn't want to risk someone else picking him up. #Texans

PHILLYTEXANFAN
08-27-2013, 02:51 PM
Why do people keep hoping we cut Keo? He was selected as special teams captain last year. The last thing you want to do is cut players who can fill in for your starters AND play special teams well enough to be voted captain.

He is slow, liability on defense. Kubes has a man crush on him, plus i believe he is still here cuz of Eds status

Rey
08-27-2013, 03:01 PM
Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26

Well. One more year for Martin and jean to prove it

phantom17
08-27-2013, 03:04 PM
Good- they are stashing a Lemon!:swatter:

Wolf6151
08-27-2013, 03:15 PM
Good- they are stashing a Lemon!:swatter:

+1. I really like what I saw from Alec Lemon, I'm glad he'll be back next year.

Big Lou
08-27-2013, 04:04 PM
Good- they are stashing a Lemon!:swatter:

When life hands you lemons, you IR them.

Corrosion
08-27-2013, 04:38 PM
Can we cut Marciano ?! He's got two big issues on ST - Lane integrity and blocking in the back .... Im tired of these not so special teams.

Corrosion
08-27-2013, 04:54 PM
can somebody explain to me this buisness deal marciano has with our owner?

Ive been hearing and reading a lot of comments how marciano has some kind of non football relationship with mcnair that has allowed him to keep his job despite him being so awful at it?

First I've heard of that .... he probably has compromising pic's of McNair or something.

infantrycak
08-27-2013, 05:16 PM
ive heard it on the radio several times already and ive seen some people comment on it online. they say marciano has some non football business deals with mcnair.

Random anonymous people on clutchfans?

Vance87
08-27-2013, 05:27 PM
Probably has a picture of McNair dressed up like a big baby.

infantrycak
08-27-2013, 05:29 PM
clutch fans? that's a rocket website. no, ive seen it on chron.com and ive heard matt jackson mention it before and another radio host whose name i forgot.

How about providing a link? When I searched the only reference I could find was some poster on clutchfans.

phantom17
08-27-2013, 06:17 PM
Probably has a picture of McNair dressed up like a big baby.

......or in drag!:kitten:

EllisUnit
08-27-2013, 06:33 PM
First I've heard of that .... he probably has compromising pic's of McNair or something.

Bob and him went to the farm sometime ago, bob thought Joe was asleep and went out to the barn to take care of his sheep mistress. Joe caught it on his camera phone.

Thats the word on the street, but who knows what to believe :fingergun:

Corrosion
08-27-2013, 09:05 PM
it was an article on chron.com sometime ago, but i have heard it on the radio at least a couple of times already. matt jackson for sure has mentioned it.

Its pretty much standard practice on this forum to post a link to support statements like these .... otherwise we don't make the statement.


Just a heads up for future reference.

Brisco_County
08-27-2013, 09:47 PM
We need to draft a petition calling for OSHA to investigate the Texans facilities for the cause of these mystery injuries that happen every year in late August.

IDEXAN
08-27-2013, 09:50 PM
ive heard it on the radio several times already and ive seen some people comment on it online. they say marciano has some non football business deals with mcnair.
You mean like maybe Marciano cuts the lawn at McNair's River Oaks residence for him ?

PapaL
08-27-2013, 09:57 PM
Its pretty much standard practice on this forum to post a link to support statements like these .... otherwise we don't make the statement.


Just a heads up for future reference.

Got a link to support that?

Kaiser Toro
08-28-2013, 12:19 AM
Got a link to support that?

I got a paypal account

ObsiWan
08-28-2013, 03:59 AM
never mind...
post no good without the visual

Corrosion
08-28-2013, 09:15 AM
Got a link to support that?

I could find one if I looked .... :cool:

GuerillaBlack
08-28-2013, 10:55 AM
Its pretty much standard practice on this forum to post a link to support statements like these .... otherwise we don't make the statement.


Just a heads up for future reference.

I've heard the same thing on the radio and got no link for it. For all we know, everyone could be parroting the same source. But there has to be a reason why Marciano is still a coach after producing bad special teams play every season. The Texans just hire an assistant.

Playoffs
08-28-2013, 05:15 PM
Christopher Price ‏@cpriceNFL
Patriots claim linebacker Ja’Gared Davis off waivers from Texans

Rey
08-28-2013, 05:25 PM
Christopher Price ‏@cpriceNFL

I liked Davis.

Oh well.

Playoffs
08-28-2013, 05:43 PM
I liked Davis.

Oh well.

Looked better than Mays to me, against different competition.