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Heath Shuler
08-18-2013, 04:53 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/266660/Arian-Foster%27s-Week-1-availability-in-doubt?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter



John McClain of the Houston Chronicle expressed concern about Arian Foster's (back, calf) Week 1 availability on Twitter Sunday.
"If I'm (coach Gary) Kubiak and Arian Foster has a back injury that's requiring injections and feeling pain in legs, I'm worried about him for opener," wrote McClain. At a Sunday presser, Kubiak revealed Foster's back pain "has gone into his legs," and doctors advised injections to alleviate it. "They tell me these injections take time," said Kubiak. "We're taking our time. ... The running back picture is concerning." Foster has missed every timeline to return to practice the Texans' coaches and medical staff have set in front of him. After three years of overuse, it's fair to wonder if Foster's body is beginning to break down.


John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL 35m

If I'm Kubiak and Arian Foster has a back injury that's requiring injections and feeling pain in legs, I'm worried about him for opener.

With the info coming from Kubiak and company I never know what to think.

Texn4life
08-18-2013, 05:00 PM
I think its time to get concerned. I'm not worried about him playing during the preseason. I do think his timeline to return to pratice should be sometime next week though so play Week 1. He can practice 1 week and still play, but I think the team should shoot for next week.

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2013, 05:13 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/266660/Arian-Foster%27s-Week-1-availability-in-doubt?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter






With the info coming from Kubiak and company I never know what to think.

I've been saying all along that I've been suspect of the claims of simple back muscle spasms. Research has not shown that local injections are effective in controlling acute or chronic low back pain that does not spread down the leg. Therefore, I would have to take it that it was not the injections that caused the pain in the legs. And, furthermore, if both legs are involved, you would have to deduct that it is something that affects spinal nerve roots coming out of both sides of the intervertebral spaces. This would have to be caused by a disc-related problem....and his injections were probably not into the muscles, but epidural in target.

http://www.chirogeek.com/Sciatica_Full_Figure1.gif

If this is, indeed, a disc, the safe return to play may not be anytime soon. A recent 2011 study reconfirmed the short-term outcome of conservative treatment in athletes with symptomatic lumbar disc herniation in terms of the ability of the athletes to return to play and factors influencing their return to play after conservative treatment. Of 100 athletes with symptomatic lumbar disc herniation, 79.0% returned to play at an average of 4.8 months (range 1–12 months) after the start of treatment and were able to sustain the activities for at least 6 months. The severity of the symptoms prior to the start of treatment was the only factor influencing the ability of the athletes to return to play. Keep in mind that if injections fail, surgery is the next option.

MEGA SWATT
08-18-2013, 05:21 PM
Wow, MS continues to be an unproven player late in the season, Andre getting to the last few yrs of superstar performance and now Foster's body starting to breakdown. I'm seeing our window of relevance getting smaller and smaller.....:voodoo:

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2013, 05:46 PM
Hmmm. I thought I heard it right. From the Kubiak press conference.

(on RB Arian Foster) “Not tomorrow. I’m going to have to make a decision what I’m doing on Tuesday. As of right now, we’ve met with the doctors that have been treating Arian’s back yesterday, right before the game or a couple of hours before the game. It was determined that they want to give it a few more days or whatever that period of time is before they put him back out there. He’s still experiencing some soreness so the decision was made yesterday that he would not return tomorrow.”

Heath Shuler
08-18-2013, 05:50 PM
http://sulia.com/channel/football/f/40dce980-0fa2-486a-8152-fbf6f4104d8c/?source=twitter

#Texans coach Gary Kubiak's quotes on Arian Foster's lingering back injury #NFL



#Texans coach Gary Kubiak's quotes on Arian Foster's lingering back injury #NFL

Kubiak on when Foster will return: “Not tomorrow. I’m going to have to make a decision what I’m doing on Tuesday. As of right now, we’ve met with the doctors that have been treating Arian’s back yesterday, right before the game or a couple of hours before the game. It was determined that they want to give it a few more days or whatever that period of time is before they put him back out there. He’s still experiencing some soreness so the decision was made yesterday that he would not return tomorrow.”

What is wrong with Foster’s back: “Yeah, he just has some lower back soreness that is bothering him in his legs a little bit. He’s had some injections to try and alleviate some of the soreness and stuff. The way I understand it right now, we’re trying to get through the injection process, that it’s causing some discomfort and it’s something that’s going to take some time for him to get through.”

How concerned he is about Foster being available for San Diego: “I’m not there yet because I see him work. I see what he’s going through. I am concerned about repetitions and that’s just me as a coach. It doesn’t mean I’m right. I just think guys need to get the practice reps, need to get the reps ready to play. We’ve got to do what we’ve got to do. We’ve got to do the smart thing here. We’ve got one back with NFL experience really on our team other than (RB) Deji (Karim) getting a little time last year in Indy. When you look at that big picture right there, boy, the running back picture is concerning to you. Just getting him back healthy and just getting him back to where we feel like we’re at full-strength. We’ll listen, we’ll listen to his doctors, we’ll listen to Kap (Head Athletic Trainer Geoff Kaplan) and, when he’s ready to go, I know Arian can make up a lot of time very quickly. I think tomorrow will be our 27th football practice as a team, so there’s a lot of work ahead.”

Nature of Foster's soreness: “No, it’s my understanding that’s mostly from the injection. He had the injections I think the Thursday or Friday before the first preseason game and they say that these things take some time to work themselves out.”

Concerned about Foster: “No, they’ve done numerous MRIs and everything looks fine. They’re just trying to make sure that he’s comfortable with how he is feeling and where we’re at before we say ‘go.’ You know, the thing about nowadays it’s always a question of when you yank him off the PUP ... "

EllisUnit
08-18-2013, 06:05 PM
Not concerned, Foster will play week 1. I suspect he wont start practicing until after the last pre season game though.

BullBlitz
08-18-2013, 06:15 PM
Concerned. Foster won't play week 1. I think we will see a lot of Tate, but I think Cierre Wood is the better back.

Tailgate
08-18-2013, 06:27 PM
I have a feeling we are going to throw the ball a **** ton this year.

TEXANRED
08-18-2013, 06:27 PM
Concerned. Foster won't play week 1. I think we will see a lot of Tate, but I think Cierre Wood is the better back.

Deji Karim is the better back.

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2013, 06:37 PM
Simple Xylocaine injections into muscles (not discs) are guided by trigger points. With proper placement, there is almost immediate relief of the spasm. Some very mild tenderness (soreness) at the injection site(s) are very typical, but would not be mistaken for continued muscle spasms. I've injected baseball players, basketball players, football players and weight lifters......for classic isolated muscle spasms.......and the aforementioned are the rule. This chronicle of facts and events described by Kubiak remains suspect.

Brisco_County
08-18-2013, 06:38 PM
I have been going to back specialists for 15 years, and I have found that the primary agitator of my lower back pain is improperly managed leg workouts. When I screw up my form doing squats or I over train, the subsequent soreness/stiffness radiates from L5 and L4. Fortunately, it does not result in sciatica, as the muscle spasms tend to travel up rather than down (For the record, working out is not the root cause of my back problems).

My point is that the speculation that Foster is "overused" seems off the mark. He did not have back problems at the end of last season, and he has not played in seven months. What preceded Foster's injury was, as Foster affirmed, the most intense offseason training he has ever subjected himself to. It is clear to me that he loaded up the squat rack, and ran a whole lot, and pushed his limits without allowing enough time to recover.

In other words, this is not an issue of mileage on his body, it is an issue of improper recovery from a possible disc or nerve injury during his offseason training.

SheTexan
08-18-2013, 07:05 PM
Maybe he's finding his MOVIE career more appealing than risking permanent damage to his body. LOVE Arian and wish him well in anything he chooses to do. He's a very smart guy and knows the career of a star RB is very short.

Something about this story just doesn't seem right, to me anyway. He hasn't been practicing so WHY is his back suddenly so bad he has to receive injections, on AUGUST 8th? Why not sooner? Just wondering. Hope our newbie RBs have what it takes, cause I don't see a lot of playing time for our star!

Speedy
08-18-2013, 07:27 PM
Concerned. Foster won't play week 1. I think we will see a lot of Tate, but I think Cierre Wood is the better back.

Deji Karim is the better back.

Case Keenum is the better back.

Wait, sorry, wrong thread.

amazing80
08-18-2013, 09:17 PM
Ray Graham is our best rb outside of Foster, but why he isn't getting more chances is starting to piss me off.

Texian
08-18-2013, 09:36 PM
I took a lot of abuse last year when I said the Texans made a mistake in giving Foster a long term contract. Instead I said they should have tendered him at $2 million. Texans gave up some good players to sign Foster long term. They would still be better off if they tendered him in 12' and franchised him in 13'. Sorry, it's business.

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2013, 09:37 PM
I have been going to back specialists for 15 years, and I have found that the primary agitator of my lower back pain is improperly managed leg workouts. When I screw up my form doing squats or I over train, the subsequent soreness/stiffness radiates from L5 and L4. Fortunately, it does not result in sciatica, as the muscle spasms tend to travel up rather than down (For the record, working out is not the root cause of my back problems).

My point is that the speculation that Foster is "overused" seems off the mark. He did not have back problems at the end of last season, and he has not played in seven months. What preceded Foster's injury was, as Foster affirmed, the most intense offseason training he has ever subjected himself to. It is clear to me that he loaded up the squat rack, and ran a whole lot, and pushed his limits without allowing enough time to recover.

In other words, this is not an issue of mileage on his body, it is an issue of improper recovery from a possible disc or nerve injury during his offseason training.


Foster was running well in the first week of OTAs. He then was carted off the field after he tore his calf (described as a "severe calf strain") on May 28 and ended up on crutches. Before that, he had no problems with his back. He was then rehabbing for 2 months, which included running. His calf rehab was still not successful. It wasn't until after that his back started giving him problems. It is not uncommon for Grade II or III calf tears to require 2 - 3 months or more, because of ease of re-injury even during rehab. If he was having so much trouble coming back from the tear, you can bet that his core was compensating, especially with attempts to run. When your core is twisted, back muscles and vertebral bones maintain asymmetric positions with compression of the discs and of the spinal nerve roots that pass between the vertebrae and discs. This would easily explain his back problem now.

TexansSeminole
08-18-2013, 09:42 PM
Foster was running well in the first week of OTAs. He then was carted off the field after he tore his calf (described as a "severe calf strain") on May 28 and ended up on crutches. Before that, he had no problems with his back. He was then rehabbing for 2 months, which included running. His calf rehab was still not successful. It wasn't until after that his back started giving him problems. It is not uncommon for Grade II or III calf tears to require 2 - 3 months or more, because of ease of re-injury even during rehab. If he was having so much trouble coming back from the tear, you can bet that his core was compensating, especially with attempts to run. When your core is twisted, back muscles and vertebral bones maintain asymmetric positions with compression of the discs and of the spinal nerve roots that pass between the vertebrae and discs. This would easily explain his back problem now.

Purely assuming this is the case, what would that mean for Foster this season in the short term (first 4 weeks of regular season) and long-term (full season)?

pirbroke
08-18-2013, 09:52 PM
Foster was running well in the first week of OTAs. He then was carted off the field after he tore his calf (described as a "severe calf strain") on May 28 and ended up on crutches. Before that, he had no problems with his back. He was then rehabbing for 2 months, which included running. His calf rehab was still not successful. It wasn't until after that his back started giving him problems. It is not uncommon for Grade II or III calf tears to require 2 - 3 months or more, because of ease of re-injury even during rehab. If he was having so much trouble coming back from the tear, you can bet that his core was compensating, especially with attempts to run. When your core is twisted, back muscles and vertebral bones maintain asymmetric positions with compression of the discs and of the spinal nerve roots that pass between the vertebrae and discs. This would easily explain his back problem now.

So what your saying is he needs to start sleeping like a bat.

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2013, 10:00 PM
Purely assuming this is the case, what would that mean for Foster this season in the short term (first 4 weeks of regular season) and long-term (full season)?

The best I can do is refer you to post #3 of this thread where I quote a recent study of "return to play" for lumbar discs treated conservatively. Now that admittedly he is fighting this and a calf rehab (since he was never proven to have completed that, with still a high risk existing for restrain of the same or other calf), it is very unpredictable when he will return. If his conservative treatment of his back is not successful, and he requires surgery (even minimally invasive surgery) it is doubtful that he can return before the end of the season if then. There are so many potential twists to this.....and the Texans are not willing to really clarify them, as exhibited by the information we have gotten about them all along. They have continually told us not to worry.......he'll be back in just a few days.

Brisco_County
08-18-2013, 10:19 PM
Foster was running well in the first week of OTAs. He then was carted off the field after he tore his calf (described as a "severe calf strain") on May 28 and ended up on crutches. Before that, he had no problems with his back. He was then rehabbing for 2 months, which included running. His calf rehab was still not successful. It wasn't until after that his back started giving him problems. It is not uncommon for Grade II or III calf tears to require 2 - 3 months or more, because of ease of re-injury even during rehab. If he was having so much trouble coming back from the tear, you can bet that his core was compensating, especially with attempts to run. When your core is twisted, back muscles and vertebral bones maintain asymmetric positions with compression of the discs and of the spinal nerve roots that pass between the vertebrae and discs. This would easily explain his back problem now.

This makes sense. The twisted, asymmetrical vertebral positioning you describe is pretty much the permanent condition of my spine. Its ability to absorb shock is minimized, and it tends to stay compressed if I don't manage it with stretching, chiro therapy, and massage. I refuse to allow it to restrict me from sports or weight training, but when I really tweak a nerve or have a bad spasm, I'm done. Think Tracy McGrady.

DX-TEX
08-18-2013, 10:55 PM
In laymens terms: Arians back is full of anti awesomeness which in turns sucks for us.

rpagz3
08-19-2013, 12:02 PM
If only Ben Tate could stay healthy this really wouldn't be a huge concern.

Tailgate
08-19-2013, 12:09 PM
My guess is the RB w the best blocking and pass catching ability out of the backfield gets the nod as the 3rd back. Our run blocking is suspect and with Hopkins and our TEs looking good I have a feeling Schaub is going to have 600+ passing attemps this year.

The Pencil Neck
08-19-2013, 01:04 PM
My guess is the RB w the best blocking and pass catching ability out of the backfield gets the nod as the 3rd back. Our run blocking is suspect and with Hopkins and our TEs looking good I have a feeling Schaub is going to have 600+ passing attemps this year.

After Tate almost getting Schaub killed and his total no-show so far in the pre-season, he's kinda scaring me as our #2.

bckey
08-19-2013, 04:19 PM
I really like Cierre Wood best out of the rookie backs. I don't think he would make it to the practice squad.

The Pencil Neck
08-19-2013, 04:28 PM
I really like Cierre Wood best out of the rookie backs. I don't think he would make it to the practice squad.

I do, too.

But judging by when guys are getting to play, it looks like Dennis Johnson is ahead of him on the depth chart. I'd love to see Cierre get some time with the 1s.

Playoffs
08-19-2013, 04:29 PM
Office pool bets are "Who returns first, Foster or Reed"... odds moving in favor of the new Texan.

TheIronDuke
08-19-2013, 04:41 PM
I do, too.

But judging by when guys are getting to play, it looks like Dennis Johnson is ahead of him on the depth chart. I'd love to see Cierre get some time with the 1s.

Same here, hopefully Cierre moved above Dennis Johnson after Johnson's two fumbles against MIA. Really hope we hold onto Wood. lol

NastyNate
08-19-2013, 04:56 PM
Same here, hopefully Cierre moved above Dennis Johnson after Johnson's two fumbles against MIA. Really hope we hold onto Wood. lol

I truly wish for the same, Cierre Wood is my guy at this point although I wouldn't be disappointed with Karim. Kubes said something to the effect of he loves Dennis Johnson because of his special teams and returning ability, and that he has had a good camp but it's not yet translating to the field. (news flash kubes, it won't).

He also said something to the effect of Cierre Wood had to improve in special teams.

Dennis Johnson has been abysmal, I'd rather not waste another minute on him. He just is not a good fit for this team but I fear we'll be stuck with him.

The Pencil Neck
08-19-2013, 04:57 PM
Same here, hopefully Cierre moved above Dennis Johnson after Johnson's two fumbles against MIA. Really hope we hold onto Wood. lol

:vincepalm:

The Pencil Neck
08-19-2013, 04:59 PM
I truly wish for the same, Cierre Wood is my guy at this point although I wouldn't be disappointed with Karim. Kubes said something to the effect of he loves Dennis Johnson because of his special teams and returning ability, and that he has had a good camp but it's not yet translating to the field. (news flash kubes, it won't).

He also said something to the effect of Cierre Wood had to improve in special teams.

Dennis Johnson has been abysmal, I'd rather not waste another minute on him. He just is not a good fit for this team but I fear we'll be stuck with him.

I'd keep Karim and Wood and put Johnson on the PS.

Like I said in another thread, though. What about Tate? He almost got Schaub killed and although he hasn't had many chances, he hasn't looked all that great so far. I'd be tempted to trade him... out of the AFC, of course, just in case.

ChampionTexan
08-19-2013, 05:01 PM
Based on the first two preseason games, I'm thinking Karim is the likely choice at RB3. He's looked good running the ball, he's got real NFL experience, and while Wood has looked very good, I think the thing that will make the final difference is special teams.

As to whether Wood would make it to the PS, who knows. RB's are not a highly valued commodity in the league, and fans are notorious for over-valuing their own UDFA's, so while I recognize the possibility he gets picked up, I'm gonna go with him making it through waivers - should he end up not making the first version of the final 53.

NastyNate
08-19-2013, 05:07 PM
I'd keep Karim and Wood and put Johnson on the PS.

Like I said in another thread, though. What about Tate? He almost got Schaub killed and although he hasn't had many chances, he hasn't looked all that great so far. I'd be tempted to trade him... out of the AFC, of course, just in case.

I'm with you pencil neck, groin injury or not he looks bad this season. I don't know what we save by cutting him out right, but Karim and Wood both look a lot more comfortable in the zone running scheme we lean on. I don't think he's even trade bait, but if someone wants him, hell we'll throw in a bag of chips.

I just can't get on board with a RB who never sees the field due to injury, forces plays due to impatience, and is a liability in blitz pickup. I've been over the whole Tate situation for quite some time.

Tailgate
08-19-2013, 05:12 PM
Based on the first two preseason games, I'm thinking Karim is the likely choice at RB3. He's looked good running the ball, he's got real NFL experience, and while Wood has looked very good, I think the thing that will make the final difference is special teams.

As to whether Wood would make it to the PS, who knows. RB's are not a highly valued commodity in the league, and fans are notorious for over-valuing their own UDFA's, so while I recognize the possibility he gets picked up, I'm gonna go with him making it through waivers - should he end up not making the first version of the final 53.

This.

JCTexan
08-19-2013, 05:17 PM
Kubiak is optimistic Foster will be ready Week 1:

HOUSTON -- Houston Texans coach Gary Kubiak is optimistic about Arian Foster's progress despite the star running back's setback this week.

Asked if he could count on Foster to play in the season opener, Kubiak said he could.

"I am, because I watch him work ... with (trainer) Geoff (Kaplan)," Kubiak said Monday. "Obviously there's been a little setback as we try to get the soreness out of him. It's not like he's been standing around for the last three weeks."

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9582656/houston-texans-optimistic-arian-foster-season-opener)

76Texan
08-19-2013, 06:30 PM
Before we signed Karim, the two guys I thought to have a shot at the third RB spot were DJ and Wood.

Now, we add Karim to the mix and he has the experience edge.
But all three have been up and down.

DJ has been quite good in picking up blitz and blocking; I'm sure that doesn't go past Kubiak. One of the fumbles was unfortunate as he was on top of a defender with another trying to prop him up. The replay just doesn't have enough of a clear angle to reverse the call. It wasn't because he was reckless with the ball or he wasn't strong enough to hold on to the ball. I wouldn't put that as a negative on him.

Our run blocking still leaves a lot to be desired, I would seperate those instances when evaluating players.

IMO, Karim and DJ are neck to neck, with Wood in third.
I still need to go back and watch them really carefully, but if Karim had hit the right hole a little more often, he would be the clear winner.
But he's still not consistent enough on his read, and for a veteran, it makes you wonder of he ever will.

infantrycak
08-19-2013, 06:58 PM
IMO, Karim and DJ are neck to neck, with Wood in third.

Not sure what you are watching. DJ has looked like a big fat nothing as a runner - bad vision, dancing, etc.

Karim 6.1 ypc
Wood 5.3 ypc
DJ 1.7 ypc

NastyNate
08-19-2013, 09:33 PM
Before we signed Karim, the two guys I thought to have a shot at the third RB spot were DJ and Wood.

Now, we add Karim to the mix and he has the experience edge.
But all three have been up and down.

DJ has been quite good in picking up blitz and blocking; I'm sure that doesn't go past Kubiak. One of the fumbles was unfortunate as he was on top of a defender with another trying to prop him up. The replay just doesn't have enough of a clear angle to reverse the call. It wasn't because he was reckless with the ball or he wasn't strong enough to hold on to the ball. I wouldn't put that as a negative on him.

Our run blocking still leaves a lot to be desired, I would seperate those instances when evaluating players.

IMO, Karim and DJ are neck to neck, with Wood in third.
I still need to go back and watch them really carefully, but if Karim had hit the right hole a little more often, he would be the clear winner.
But he's still not consistent enough on his read, and for a veteran, it makes you wonder of he ever will.

Hell yeah, let's make DJ our third back, and bring home the trophy as the #1 rushing team in the NFL with that whopping 1.7 YPC!

bckey
08-19-2013, 09:45 PM
Not sure what you are watching. DJ has looked like a big fat nothing as a runner - bad vision, dancing, etc.

Karim 6.1 ypc
Wood 5.3 ypc
DJ 1.7 ypc


Yeah DJ has looked bad.

silvrhand
08-20-2013, 01:58 PM
We are a scheme team, we don't need a #1 running back to make this work, this has been proven time and time again with the zone blocking scheme. Some RB's can run this, some can't, find another one that can and give him 1200 yards and call it a day.

BullNation4Life
08-20-2013, 03:50 PM
Same here, hopefully Cierre moved above Dennis Johnson after Johnson's two fumbles against MIA. Really hope we hold onto Wood. lol

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPo3enr4wxhFxGVmGg3KNIzkPUCXnb6 NbPSCnxGlJJ1LiYDJ7M

MistaRed
08-21-2013, 01:03 PM
Adam schefter just tweeted Arian is being taken off of PUP list today.

djohn2oo8
08-21-2013, 01:10 PM
Adam schefter just tweeted Arian is being take off of PUP list today.

While good news, we still don't know when he'll play.

DX-TEX
08-21-2013, 01:12 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 12m
Arian Foster coming off PUP today.



:bravo:

NastyNate
08-21-2013, 04:16 PM
We are a scheme team, we don't need a #1 running back to make this work, this has been proven time and time again with the zone blocking scheme. Some RB's can run this, some can't, find another one that can and give him 1200 yards and call it a day.

Exactly. To add to your point, only twice has the team with the league's top running attack won the Super Bowl, the 72 Dolphins and the 85 Bears. And even more so, only 2 players have won the super bowl in years that they led the league in rushing, Emmitt Smith in 92/93/95 and Terrell Davis in 98.

The Third Man
08-21-2013, 04:34 PM
Wait, now it's no big deal that Arian Foster might not be at full speed, or that is he easily replaceable, or that having a leading rushing does not equate to winning Super Bowls? You people are tripping.

TdotTexas2Step
08-21-2013, 04:40 PM
We are a scheme team, we don't need a #1 running back to make this work, this has been proven time and time again with the zone blocking scheme. Some RB's can run this, some can't, find another one that can and give him 1200 yards and call it a day.

Exactly. To add to your point, only twice has the team with the league's top running attack won the Super Bowl, the 72 Dolphins and the 85 Bears. And even more so, only 2 players have won the super bowl in years that they led the league in rushing, Emmitt Smith in 92/93/95 and Terrell Davis in 98.

While we are scheme team, it's pretty naive to think Foster is interchangeable How many years have we been utilizing the zone block scheme? Now, how many Arian Fosters have we produced?

I'm not going back to the days of Steve Slaton.

Foster is special. The man became the first player ever to rush for over 100 yards in his first three playoff games. The playoffs, where teams buckle down and gameplan to stop you from ending their seasons.

We're going to have to gunsling our way to a win somewhere on the road to a Superbowl, but make no mistake about it, our odds at winning it all are SIGNIFICANTLY better with Arian, and not just any plug-n-play zone block RB.

Rey
08-21-2013, 05:09 PM
There are probably quite a few RB's that could come in and give you 1,200 yards. No doubt.

But not all of them can give you the Catching, Pass Pro, open field ability and Red Zone ability that Foster brings.

Also, while Foster has had some injury stuff, for the most part he's been a dependable back.

Sorry, but there is a reason the Texans paid Foster instead of just handing the job to Tate.

There's more aspects of playing running back than just getting over 1,000 yards.

EllisUnit
08-21-2013, 06:07 PM
There are probably quite a few RB's that could come in and give you 1,200 yards. No doubt.

But not all of them can give you the Catching, Pass Pro, open field ability and Red Zone ability that Foster brings.

Also, while Foster has had some injury stuff, for the most part he's been a dependable back.

Sorry, but there is a reason the Texans paid Foster instead of just handing the job to Tate.

There's more aspects of playing running back than just getting over 1,000 yards.

exactly, not to mention he is a TD machine. He can get in the endzone and get the tough yards when needed. Not everyday you find an every down back like that.

HJam72
08-21-2013, 06:34 PM
Foster IS a TD machine, but what I notice most about him is the cutbacks he gets that nobody else really does nearly as often (where a LOT of his yardage comes from) & the 2 or 3 yards on sooooooo many plays that most RBs would go down for a loss.

Last year was his worst year since becoming a starter, regarding YPC, and yet it was still something special to watch. His vision is OUTSTANDING, he is quick and hard to get a hold of, and he doesn't quit, ever. The O-line will not always open a hole on any team, but Foster is getting his 2 or 3 yards come Hell or high water. He's going to make somebody miss if he has to do a somersault over their heads. This is why they named a freaking beer after him. :)

Just imagine if we had refused to pay Foster and just made Tate the #1. Last year would have been a DISASTER at the RB position. I know Tate may get it together again, but Foster just has the "I DON'T QUIT!!!" mentality. We may have to slow our roll with his number of carries, though. Vegan or not, the dude is human.

htowntexans1985
08-21-2013, 07:09 PM
Mark Berman
@ MarkBermanFox26

Texans running back Arian Foster says he
will be ready for the regular-season
opener against the Chargers.

Rey
08-22-2013, 09:30 AM
I'm worried about Arian longterm. I don't know if his heart is still in the game. He was supposedly pretty nasty with the press yesterday and then I heard some snippets and he's sounding like an old retired player. Said he loved the game but it's tiring or something like that.

That's something I'm going to be watching for. Tate might be even more important than we think this year.

EllisUnit
08-22-2013, 10:02 AM
I'm worried about Arian longterm. I don't know if his heart is still in the game. He was supposedly pretty nasty with the press yesterday and then I heard some snippets and he's sounding like an old retired player. Said he loved the game but it's tiring or something like that.

That's something I'm going to be watching for. Tate might be even more important than we think this year.

He got payed now he dont care, sounds about right. Maybe thats why he looked kind of blah last season and not like the hungry undrafted player anymore.

djohn2oo8
08-22-2013, 10:15 AM
He got payed now he dont care, sounds about right. Maybe thats why he looked kind of blah last season and not like the hungry undrafted player anymore.

Or the line was so bad.

htowntexans1985
08-22-2013, 10:23 AM
I was thinking the same thing. His heart just doesn't seem into it. He just had a newborn son and already had a daughter. Maybe he realized that the game of football will keep him away from his family most of the time. He certainly seems more intrigued by the entertainment industry in my book. He might not want this career any more due to the physical and mental grind it takes on the players. Only time will tell but he sure does look like he lost interest already.

djohn2oo8
08-22-2013, 10:28 AM
Goodness, some people need to really get a grip. Didn't Foster just come off his hardest offseason training session of his career?

nero THE zero
08-22-2013, 10:36 AM
Goodness, some people need to really get a grip. Didn't Foster just come off his hardest offseason training session of his career?

I think it's just as likely that he turns out to have one of the best seasons of his career as it is that he's lost interest in the game and has essentially quit. Though, neither result would surprise me.

He's always been this enigmatic, douchey kind of guy.

When he's leading the league in rushing, he's quirky. When he's missing training camp after a sub-par (by his standards) season with various injuries, he's disinterested and mailing it in.

djohn2oo8
08-22-2013, 10:42 AM
I think it's just as likely that he turns out to have one of the best seasons of his career as it is that he's lost interest in the game and has essentially quit. Though, neither result would surprise me.

He's always been this enigmatic, douchey kind of guy.

When he's leading the league in rushing, he's quirky. When he's missing training camp after a sub-par (by his standards) season with various injuries, he's disinterested and mailing it in.

True. People act like they are just finding out Foster can be a douche.

Rey
08-22-2013, 10:43 AM
Goodness, some people need to really get a grip. Didn't Foster just come off his hardest offseason training session of his career?

That's what he said last year.

Rey
08-22-2013, 10:49 AM
True. People act like they are just finding out Foster can be a douche.

Have you heard the interview or anything regarding his demeanor yesterday?

My guess would be no based on your comments.

Several media people that have dealt with foster more than anyone here were taken back by his behavior. So while you may think he is known to be "douchey", he was obviously a bit more so yesterday.

silvrhand
08-22-2013, 11:02 AM
That's what he said last year.

Maybe he's on yet another new diet?

:kitten:

silvrhand
08-22-2013, 11:09 AM
Have you heard the interview or anything regarding his demeanor yesterday?

My guess would be no based on your comments.

Several media people that have dealt with foster more than anyone here were taken back by his behavior. So while you may think he is known to be "douchey", he was obviously a bit more so yesterday.

He came out of college a douche, it was so bad he got sent to the practice squad to get his )(*@ straight. And you have to admit to get completely dumped out of the draft, and to the PS cause of your attitude it has to be pretty bad.

Texn4life
08-22-2013, 11:20 AM
I heard the interview, and while it was a little weird I'm not worried. It was more of a guy realizing that he only has so many more years in him to me. I have no doubt Arian will go as hard as he can for as long as he can within reason. I don't think he wants to be another Earl Campbell and for good reason.

He's made comments before that players are people and I think thats why he sounded a little off putting. Everyone's worried about if he can play and not how he's feeling is probably what was in his head. He's just a different kind of cat.

nero THE zero
08-22-2013, 11:29 AM
He's always had a broader perspective. See his comments on fantasy football, where he basically said he dislikes it in the way it objectifies the players.

I don't think any of this is "new." I think he's being contrarian and his patience is wearing thin.

Rey
08-22-2013, 11:41 AM
I'm not even worried about him thinking people view him as a tool. He's right to some degree. But fans do get attached to players they like based on more than just what they do on field. The media is the medium you use to talk to your fans. So while it might be hard to think of it that way, iiwii.

But that's not what caught my attention. My ears perked up when he talked about how hard the game was and that it was tiring of something or other. Football is t his main focus. Which is fine. You can still play well. But it still makes you more attentive when you have players talking like that.

76Texan
08-22-2013, 12:00 PM
It's the kind of Hernandez quirk that the scouting department should really pay attention to. :gun:

CloakNNNdagger
08-22-2013, 12:06 PM
I'm worried about Arian longterm. I don't know if his heart is still in the game. He was supposedly pretty nasty with the press yesterday and then I heard some snippets and he's sounding like an old retired player. Said he loved the game but it's tiring or something like that.

That's something I'm going to be watching for. Tate might be even more important than we think this year.


Your body being exposed to repeated trauma and injuries, with the need for constant rehab can also eventually wear down and demoralize the best of athletes. As I said before, Arian’s recent back problem is far from simple back spasms. The series of backs injections described are epidural injections, similar to the ones that Cody required for his disc problems last year.


http://www.mayfieldclinic.com/Images/PE-ESI_Figure1.jpg


http://www.mayfieldclinic.com/Images/PE-ESI_Figure2.jpg


Here are the indications for epidural injections to the back..........pick your poison.:

Spinal stenosis: A narrowing of the spinal canal and nerve root canal can cause back and leg pain, especially when walking.

Spondylolysis: A weakness or fracture between the upper and lower facets of a vertebra. If the vertebra slips forward (spondylolisthesis), it can compress the nerve roots causing pain.

Herniated disc: The gel-like material within the disc can bulge or rupture through a weak area in the surrounding wall (annulus). Irritation, pain, and swelling occur when this material squeezes out and comes in contact with a spinal nerve.

Degenerative disc: A breakdown or aging of the intervertebral disc causing collapse of the disc space, tears in the annulus, and growth of bone spurs.

Sciatica: Pain that courses along the sciatic nerve in the buttocks and down the legs. It is usually caused by compression of the 5th lumbar or 1st sacral spinal nerve.

The first one is unlikely to have first given him problems this late into his career. He would likely not be playing football now.

The second one essentially creates the same situation as a disc problem.

All others are essentially also disc related.

Epidural injections may relieve the pain, but are seldom other than a temporizing measure.

I continue to be concerned in that this back problem is very likely compensatory to his previous calf tear injury (even if the calf no longer bothers him) due to impaired core mechanics. Then an exaggerated change in primary core mechanics seen in all back injuries, creates awkward compensatory postural changes that then in turn increase the risks of incurring lower limb injuries, such as hamstring and calf tears. A vicious circle of falling dominoes can be and many times is generated.

Playoffs
08-22-2013, 12:54 PM
All the media carping about Arian's attitude is a bunch of hot air. Texans Chick had no issue with the interview. Foster doesn't read from the same-old-same-old yada, yada sports quotes list that is regurgitated around the league every day ad nauseum. Media types all fussy because they didn't get their textbook quotes to plug in to standard sports article template #14 -- RB returning from injury.

Foster has in the past given some of the most interesting and unusual interviews I've heard from a football player. He's not going to be "on" every time.

Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe he didn't get any sleep because of his son. He thinks for himself and knows he's a commodity with a short shelf life. Some days, I guess he's not willing to follow the script. I couldn't care less. Dude has been a baller and should continue same. That's all I need from Arian. ( Although I'd love to sit down and have a conversation with him about all things not football some day.) I just hope he can get/stay healthy.

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 01:08 PM
Have you heard the interview or anything regarding his demeanor yesterday?

My guess would be no based on your comments.

Several media people that have dealt with foster more than anyone here were taken back by his behavior. So while you may think he is known to be "douchey", he was obviously a bit more so yesterday.

I've interviewed Foster since he was a rookie.

He is never an easy interview. Because you can't just ask the same old questions and get the same boring predictable soundbite answers.

In my dealings with him, he's been fair/fine. He's a hard radio interview because he can leave you hanging. In a interview for print, you have to keep asking questions until you find something that he feels good about talking about.

He doesn't like being treated like a injury commodity. Or participating in the mythology of the sport. He doesn't care for people speculating about all sorts of stuff. Or being treated like an object.

I thought the transcript was entertaining. Did he give the detailed and type of answers the media wanted? No. But he's nobody's puppet boy.

He basically said, "Hey, I'm not giving you details of my injuries, I'm fine, I don't care much for preseason, I'm fine for the opener, it's no big thing. Everybody be cool"

And media wasn't listening to any of that. They were all, "Tell us all the details, share all your angst/frustration about missing training camp."

It's not like he's Brian Cushing or DeVier Posey coming off of serious injuries. He didn't miss 2012 games. He missed training camp reps. He was working entire time on side field.

I like him being honest and answering things in non-cliches. I like when players can be themselves and not the robot answering questions.

Media had two issues with the interview:

1. They had to wait 3 hours. Texans PR said that he was going through lifting/treatment, updated media.

2. He didn't give effusive answers. Which he tends not to about injuries. Which is smart.

Near end of the interview, he told someone, that's a "pretty bad question, man."

I've had players/coaches not like my questions and verbalize that, but it is no butthurt big deal. Just how it is when you ask enough questions...the answerer won't like all of them.

Blake
08-22-2013, 01:30 PM
Near end of the interview, he told someone, that's a "pretty bad question, man."


What was the question?

Brisco_County
08-22-2013, 01:38 PM
I would be way less gracious with media if I had to deal with them regularly.

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 01:40 PM
Near end of the interview, he told someone, that's a "pretty bad question, man."


What was the question?

The full exchange is not in the official transcripts but you can find the audio in the butthurty 610 article about the interview.

Basically, he was asked about his mental frustration with his injuries and doing rehab.

This was after he already talked about how the preseason doesn't matter/and that he is doing just fine.

Certainly, the exchange could be handled more politely. I think he took issue with the assumption that this was something that should have really frustrated him.

DX-TEX
08-22-2013, 01:41 PM
Near end of the interview, he told someone, that's a "pretty bad question, man."


What was the question?

"Should I draft you in my FF league?"

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 01:42 PM
I would be way less gracious with media if I had to deal with them regularly.

I personally enjoy athlete interviews that are unconventional, not just cliche.

And with Kubiak, I like to challenge myself to ask a question where I have no idea what his answer will be involving something that fans would be interested in. That is VERY hard to do.

CloakNNNdagger
08-22-2013, 01:47 PM
More and more NFL players are taking this stance. The grueling work, the injuries, the hard road back from injuries.............all I'm sure play their role.


Arian Foster doesn’t want his children playing football (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/08/arian-foster-doesnt-want-his-children-playing-football/)

Posted on August 22, 2013 at 9:15 am

Arian Foster was back on the field Wednesday practicing with his Texans teammates for the first time since late May.

Initially sidelined by a calf strain during OTAs, the star running back later developed a back issue that kept him out of training camp and the team’s first two preseason games.

Foster, who is unlikely to play in Sunday’s game against the New Orleans Saints at Reliant Stadium, declined to go into details about his back injury when he met with reporters after practice. The fifth-year man out of Tennessee, however, did acknowledge that he doesn’t want his children to experience the pains of playing football and doesn’t intend to let them participate in the game.

“I love the game and everything, but this hurts, man,” Foster said. “It’s a lot of work, man. Let Daddy put in the work so you can go study art or something.”

NastyNate
08-22-2013, 02:01 PM
I'm worried about Arian longterm. I don't know if his heart is still in the game. He was supposedly pretty nasty with the press yesterday and then I heard some snippets and he's sounding like an old retired player. Said he loved the game but it's tiring or something like that.

That's something I'm going to be watching for. Tate might be even more important than we think this year.

He got payed now he dont care, sounds about right. Maybe thats why he looked kind of blah last season and not like the hungry undrafted player anymore.

I was thinking the same thing. His heart just doesn't seem into it. He just had a newborn son and already had a daughter. Maybe he realized that the game of football will keep him away from his family most of the time. He certainly seems more intrigued by the entertainment industry in my book. He might not want this career any more due to the physical and mental grind it takes on the players. Only time will tell but he sure does look like he lost interest already.

True. People act like they are just finding out Foster can be a douche.

Man you guys are quick to turn on our guy! Our O-line was crap last year and Arian turned goat piss into gasoline. Perhaps injuries and the constant "when are ya gonna be healthy? WHEN WHEN WHEN???" is draining him and he's probably just ready to play some real football.

Arian is going to have a career year, mark it.

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 02:37 PM
Man you guys are quick to turn on our guy! Our O-line was crap last year and Arian turned goat piss into gasoline. Perhaps injuries and the constant "when are ya gonna be healthy? WHEN WHEN WHEN???" is draining him and he's probably just ready to play some real football.

Arian is going to have a career year, mark it.

It's mountains out of molehills.

Rey
08-22-2013, 02:43 PM
rah, rah sis boom bah

Sorry...

Couldn't hear over your Pom poms..

But seriously, I haven't turned against anyone. I voiced a concern.

Rey
08-22-2013, 03:11 PM
What was the question?

I think they asked him about being frustrated dealing with his injuries. Really a harmless question.

But really, I don't care about his attitude towards media. I'm concerned with how he sounded when he said I love the game "BUT"...

It's obvious that Arian isn't consumed with football. Which is fine. As a person I respect that because I can relate to that on a first hand level. As a fan I'm worried that our star RB may not have the same hunger and dedication like a Watt or a Dre or even a Schaub. What that equates too if true, I don't know.

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 03:19 PM
I think they asked him about being frustrated dealing with his injuries. Really a harmless question.

But really, I don't care about his attitude towards media. I'm concerned with how he sounded when he said I love the game "BUT"...

It's obvious that Arian isn't consumed with football. Which is fine. As a person I respect that because I can relate to that on a first hand level. As a fan I'm worried that our star RB may not have the same hunger and dedication like a Watt or a Dre or even a Schaub. What that equates too if true, I don't know.

He had answered question about how he doesn't value preseason, he's fine, etc. The question asked to him assumed he should have some level of frustration missing out on practicing in the preseason.

Just because he doesn't say all the eat breathe football things doesn't mean he doesn't put in the work. I was watching his work on the rehab side field, am familiar with his off-season training. It isn't like he's sitting around eating Shipley's.

If we criticize every non-robot answer a athlete gives then we as a fanbase deserve only robot answers. I actually enjoyed listening to the presser. He's very straightforward.

CharloTex
08-22-2013, 03:21 PM
All the media carping about Arian's attitude is a bunch of hot air. Texans Chick had no issue with the interview. Foster doesn't read from the same-old-same-old yada, yada sports quotes list that is regurgitated around the league every day ad nauseum. Media types all fussy because they didn't get their textbook quotes to plug in to standard sports article template #14 -- RB returning from injury.

Foster has in the past given some of the most interesting and unusual interviews I've heard from a football player. He's not going to be "on" every time.

Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe he didn't get any sleep because of his son. He thinks for himself and knows he's a commodity with a short shelf life. Some days, I guess he's not willing to follow the script. I couldn't care less. Dude has been a baller and should continue same. That's all I need from Arian. ( Although I'd love to sit down and have a conversation with him about all things not football some day.) I just hope he can get/stay healthy.


rep

Tailgate
08-22-2013, 03:49 PM
Not sure what all the hoopla is about. Foster knows his body, and if he wants to go all Belichick about it then so be it. He gave us 350 carries last year. He is a professional, and will be ready to go when he is ready to go. Not even worried.

htowntexans1985
08-22-2013, 03:50 PM
All I'm saying is to most of the champions in this league, football is number one. To Arian it seems football might not be #1,2,3,4 etc.

All of us here want the Houston Texans to win a championship for our city. And if Arian isn't willing to help us and give the team his full effort, than we aren't getting anything. He got paid and his family is taken care of, so we will just have to wait to see where his heart really is. And to see if he really does care for the game.

noxiousdog
08-22-2013, 03:55 PM
All I'm saying is to most of the champions in this league, football is number one. To Arian it seems football might not be #1,2,3,4 etc.

All of us here want the Houston Texans to win a championship for our city. And if Arian isn't willing to help us and give the team his full effort, than we aren't getting anything. He got paid and his family is taken care of, so we will just have to wait to see where his heart really is. And to see if he really does care for the game.

There's zero chance of him being in the shape he is in if he didn't put his career #1. Zero.

speedfreek
08-22-2013, 03:57 PM
After hearing the actual interview, I was a little dissapointed
at how "pissy" he sounded when he was responding to the questions.

This town loves it players, but much-more-so, historically, when
the come across as "nice guys".

Aka Watt, Earl, Dream, etc.

After making everyone wait for 3 hours (or so I've heard) you could
atleast be pleasant.

Part of his job is interfacing with the media -- and by extension,
the fans.

TJ

htowntexans1985
08-22-2013, 04:01 PM
He accomplished what he set out for. For his family to be taken care of. All his hard work paid off for him. Now does he have it in him to WANT to become a champion. Thats the question.

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 04:06 PM
After hearing the actual interview, I was a little dissapointed
at how "pissy" he sounded when he was responding to the questions.

This town loves it players, but much-more-so, historically, when
the come across as "nice guys".

Aka Watt, Earl, Dream, etc.

After making everyone wait for 3 hours (or so I've heard) you could
atleast be pleasant.

Part of his job is interfacing with the media -- and by extension,
the fans.

TJ

Eh. Regarding the 3 hour wait.

Some in media who were not there assumed that Foster made them wait. After I asked, did you ask the Texans if there was something else going on, Kevin Cooper in PR said on Twitter:

he was getting treatment and weights. Wednesdays are long days.

we kept updating media on his progress giving approx. timeline

I'm okay with him doing what he needs to do before meeting with media.

As it relates to his answers, he can be short with things he is not interested in answering. He's got burned in the past regarding injury discussions. i.e. hamstring, heart scare.

So, it was clear he didn't want to do a discourse on his health other than saying he was fine.

The better way to answer the question would be to say, "I know there are people interested in the details of my health. I would prefer to keep that quiet other than saying that I'm fine, I'm ready to go Game 1, even if I don't play in the preseason."

That would be more polite. I personally thought he sounded like he was joking around. And I don't take players/coaches being short with me personally.

Ultimately, if you get with Arian that he doesn't like to be treated like a commodity, and thinks that there is too much over-analysis and speculation, then it is easier to ask him questions. But it is never easy, easy to ask him about football. With non-football, you can get him to answer all sorts of outside the box sorts of things.

Generally, I try not to assume the worst in people. And let them be whoever they want to be. Every player has a different style--personally, I enjoy Foster's style even though it can be short, because it's more real/interesting than the robot talk.

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 04:08 PM
He accomplished what he set out for. For his family to be taken care of. All his hard work paid off for him. Now does he have it in him to WANT to become a champion. Thats the question.

Eh.

He got paid. After getting paid, he did workhorse stuff last year.

It's a team game. I have no complaints about his effort.

NCTexan
08-22-2013, 05:19 PM
This thread is unbelievable... get real people. He's gonna do his best to bring a championship home.

EllisUnit
08-22-2013, 06:40 PM
Man you guys are quick to turn on our guy! Our O-line was crap last year and Arian turned goat piss into gasoline. Perhaps injuries and the constant "when are ya gonna be healthy? WHEN WHEN WHEN???" is draining him and he's probably just ready to play some real football.

Arian is going to have a career year, mark it.

HAHA i didnt turn on the guy, i just replied to what he thought he heard foster say. I didnt hear the interview. It was more of a smartass reply than anything.

I like Foster, always have.

Wolf
08-22-2013, 07:23 PM
Foster=Ying
Watt=Yang

:kitten:

I could care less if he plays in preseason..He was used A LOT last year Sony rest is good IMO

Not understanding if people commenting on if he is mailing it in after getting paid.

You think Kubiak would go for that? Nope. Hell I don't think Foster would go for that

steelbtexan
08-22-2013, 07:47 PM
He's always had a broader perspective. See his comments on fantasy football, where he basically said he dislikes it in the way it objectifies the players.

I don't think any of this is "new." I think he's being contrarian and his patience is wearing thin.

Broader perspective? He needs to realize that unless he's playing football everybody except his family could care less about his perspective of life. Foster isn't some kind of deep thinker say like Ghandi. He's a RB.

I do believe because of his back/calf injuries it's doubtful he makes it through the season. Regardles of how minor Gary says Fosters injuries are.

thunderkyss
08-22-2013, 07:48 PM
Ray Graham is our best rb outside of Foster, but why he isn't getting more chances is starting to piss me off.

He may have solidified his chances with the team, or they truly want to get him on the practice squad & don't want to advertise the goods.

thunderkyss
08-22-2013, 07:59 PM
My guess is the RB w the best blocking and pass catching ability out of the backfield gets the nod as the 3rd back. Our run blocking is suspect and with Hopkins and our TEs looking good I have a feeling Schaub is going to have 600+ passing attemps this year.

I still think pass protection is important for our running backs, but we've come a long way since 2006, we've come a long way since Arian's rookie season 2010. As such, it may not be as high on the priority list as it used to be.

Our OL may not need the help they did in the past. Greg Jones may be our primary blitz picker upper. Matt does a pretty good job of getting the ball out on time.

Who knows?

steelbtexan
08-22-2013, 08:06 PM
I think they asked him about being frustrated dealing with his injuries. Really a harmless question.

But really, I don't care about his attitude towards media. I'm concerned with how he sounded when he said I love the game "BUT"...

It's obvious that Arian isn't consumed with football. Which is fine. As a person I respect that because I can relate to that on a first hand level. As a fan I'm worried that our star RB may not have the same hunger and dedication like a Watt or a Dre or even a Schaub. What that equates too if true, I don't know.

He was consumed with getting paid. Now he's not.

Looks like Rick may have made another mistake by signing Foster to that big contract.

thunderkyss
08-22-2013, 08:18 PM
When I see Arian slacking on the field I'll worry.

NastyNate
08-22-2013, 08:23 PM
Sorry...

Couldn't hear over your Pom poms..

But seriously, I haven't turned against anyone. I voiced a concern.

I was one of the few who denounced Antonio Smith's actions in the Incognito situation, and I'm a huge fan of Ninja. If Foster was slacking off I'd be the first to call it out. Glad to see a quality response from you. As always, you add so much to the conversation...

mmwest
08-22-2013, 08:51 PM
The man gets criticized because he didn't eat meat and now because he's not what you call a media boy. He does nothing but perform on the field and that's good enough for me.
On a side note I don't think many of us (me too) could handle what the New York media must be like.................fricken sharks is my guess.

TdotTexas2Step
08-22-2013, 09:26 PM
The GQ version of Arian Foster wants us to all relax. He's got this.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2n9e0oy.gif

Texans_Chick
08-22-2013, 09:45 PM
He was consumed with getting paid. Now he's not.

Looks like Rick may have made another mistake by signing Foster to that big contract.

Dude. He got paid BEFORE last season.

And he was pretty much the running game by himself last year.

MISSING THE POINT HERE Y'ALL!

OFF THE PUP!

SOUNDS LIKE HE IS READY TO GO WEEK 1!!!!

THIS IS GOOD NEWS PEOPLE!!!!!

HE'S THE BIG HOMIE!!!!!

C'MON NOW!!!!

How can fans be grumbly that their badass running back is off PUP, looking to go Week 1, says everything is good, isn't giving out details on injuries to help opponents, answers all the questions but wah, just doesn't answer them sweet enough for some people's taste. I thought his answers were real and funny.

Nah, waaaaah, we want robot talk that isn't real and dude to make up answers.

http://speakfearlessly.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/you-cant-handle-the-truth-meme-generator-you-want-the-truth-you-can-t-handle-the-truth-9789dd.jpg

Texn4life
08-22-2013, 09:51 PM
And Texans Chick with the knockout blow! Mike Tyson style!

Brisco_County
08-22-2013, 11:26 PM
This thread is proving exactly why a pro athlete may sometimes consider the whole thing to be ridiculous.

idymoe
08-22-2013, 11:41 PM
Dude. He got paid BEFORE last season.

And he was pretty much the running game by himself last year.

MISSING THE POINT HERE Y'ALL!

OFF THE PUP!

SOUNDS LIKE HE IS READY TO GO WEEK 1!!!!

THIS IS GOOD NEWS PEOPLE!!!!!

HE'S THE BIG HOMIE!!!!!

C'MON NOW!!!!

How can fans be grumbly that their badass running back is off PUP, looking to go Week 1, says everything is good, isn't giving out details on injuries to help opponents, answers all the questions but wah, just doesn't answer them sweet enough for some people's taste. I thought his answers were real and funny.

Nah, waaaaah, we want robot talk that isn't real and dude to make up answers.

http://speakfearlessly.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/you-cant-handle-the-truth-meme-generator-you-want-the-truth-you-can-t-handle-the-truth-9789dd.jpg


Amen!

Rey
08-23-2013, 12:13 AM
Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

MistaRed
08-23-2013, 03:17 AM
The overreaction to this is ridiculous. But I'll just wait until the season starts. Soon as Arian breaks a long run or scores a TD it'll be a distant memory.

Texn4life
08-23-2013, 03:58 AM
Something about a kettle and a pot comes to mind...... Oh well, guess I forgot the story.

Texans_Chick
08-23-2013, 08:19 AM
Seriously.

I love that in referencing how he works with the young running backs, he says he's The Big Homie.

That is awesome.

b0ng
08-23-2013, 08:50 AM
People who question or are concerned about Arian Foster's motivation on the field because of the way questions at a press conference were answered have very very misplaced emotions about one of our stars. And it's not cheerleading to call you dummies out either.

Thorn
08-23-2013, 09:11 AM
During the offseason Arian Foster was kidnapped by alien UFOs and experimented on. He is not the same. We should not only be aware of that, but demand action from the Texans management who have a UFO control tower in Relient stadium. Texans_Chick, an alien agent, is not to be trusted with her common sense approach to this subject.

Texans_Chick
08-23-2013, 09:14 AM
During the offseason Arian Foster was kidnapped by alien UFOs and experimented on. He is not the same. We should not only be aware of that, but demand action from the Texans management who have a UFO control tower in Relient stadium. Texans_Chick, an alien agent, is not to be trusted with her common sense approach to this subject.

Yes. You can trust me.

My tin foil hat is strong. And blocks radiation from the sun.

:texans chick:

BullNation4Life
08-23-2013, 10:00 AM
http://i.imgur.com/uNWfl6u.gif

Playoffs
08-23-2013, 10:07 AM
Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Also ignored was all the GOOD news of his presser...Foster feels good, looks good, expects to play Week 1, used word "defecation" in presser

Lost in the local Arian Foster talk of yesterday was that to the other running backs, he's "the big homie." /Nickname alerthttp://discussions.godandscience.org/images/smilies/sign_poop.gif




He was consumed with getting paid. Now he's not.

Looks like Rick may have made another mistake by signing Foster to that big contract.YGTBFKM :hankpalm:

deucetx
08-23-2013, 10:16 AM
Yeah no problem with me either. He never seemed to care for these type of situations/questions. Remember last time I believe it was the hammy and he went to the extent of getting an x-ray and such? He really wasn't too fond of the attention put on the injury then either lol.

It is who he is. So I'll take his word for it when he says he was disappointed in his performance last year and put in extra work this offseason. At the same time he gives me sort of a Barry Sanders vibe as someone who doesn't really care for the attention and media drive that the NFL can be. Nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't care too much for it either. Glad he speaks his mind instead of the usual jargon that gets overly boring.

But I can understand concerns since we did put one heavy investment in him. It'll all be good in the end....or so I hope lol.

TexansSeminole
08-23-2013, 10:47 AM
I don't understand why this thread has been hijacked by his attitude during one presser.

Can we get back to talking about his injury? We still don't know jack **** about it. We don't know the specific issue he has in his back that is requiring injections. He's practicing now, but how much does that really mean? I'm still worried about this.

thunderkyss
08-23-2013, 12:07 PM
During the offseason Arian Foster was kidnapped by alien UFOs and experimented on. He is not the same. We should not only be aware of that, but demand action from the Texans management who have a UFO control tower in Relient stadium. Texans_Chick, an alien agent, is not to be trusted with her common sense approach to this subject.


Uh... don't we have a back-up QB controversy we need to be talking about?

Thorn
08-23-2013, 01:37 PM
Uh... don't we have a back-up QB controversy we need to be talking about?

I totally agree, but you can't tell me you're not worried about that alien UFO control tower in Reliant stadium.

Thorn
08-23-2013, 01:38 PM
I don't understand why this thread has been hijacked by his attitude during one presser.

We're internet posters. Hijacking threads is what we do.

The Pencil Neck
08-23-2013, 02:31 PM
We're internet posters. Hijacking threads is what we do.

Speaking of which, this thread needs Christina Hendricks jpgs...


:tiphat:

drs23
08-23-2013, 03:51 PM
Speaking of which, this thread needs Christina Hendricks jpgs...


:tiphat:

:tapsfingers: So, ugh, what's the holdup? :foottap:

Rey
08-23-2013, 05:48 PM
I don't care about Arian's speeches in general. That had 0 to do with my initial comment other than mentioning the interview as a whole. I've said a few times now what part of the interview made my ears perk up.

As far as Arian always being a douche in press conferences or interviews, bull****. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEQcf0wMFJw)

ObsiWan
08-24-2013, 11:05 PM
More and more NFL players are taking this stance. The grueling work, the injuries, the hard road back from injuries.............all I'm sure play their role.


Arian Foster doesn’t want his children playing football (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/08/arian-foster-doesnt-want-his-children-playing-football/)

Posted on August 22, 2013 at 9:15 am

I can appreciate that a father wants an easier road for his children. What father doesn't.

...well, there ARE those who wish to live vicariously thru their kids. (See RGII)

ObsiWan
08-24-2013, 11:16 PM
He had answered question about how he doesn't value preseason, he's fine, etc. The question asked to him assumed he should have some level of frustration missing out on practicing in the preseason.

Just because he doesn't say all the eat breathe football things doesn't mean he doesn't put in the work. I was watching his work on the rehab side field, am familiar with his off-season training. It isn't like he's sitting around eating Shipley's.

If we criticize every non-robot answer a athlete gives then we as a fanbase deserve only robot answers. I actually enjoyed listening to the presser. He's very straightforward.

I'm with you on this subject. I think Foster is refreshing.

When players barf out the same old stale quotes to the press it reminds me of the movie Bull Durham where the rookie (Tim Dobbins) finally gets it and starts feeding the press the usual & customary answers they expect and they love him for it.

Boooorrrrring!

ObsiWan
08-24-2013, 11:19 PM
I don't care about Arian's speeches in general. That had 0 to do with my initial comment other than mentioning the interview as a whole. I've said a few times now what part of the interview made my ears perk up.

As far as Arian always being a douche in press conferences or interviews, bull****. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEQcf0wMFJw)

Thanks for posting that link.
msr

ObsiWan
08-24-2013, 11:37 PM
I totally agree, but you can't tell me you're not worried about that alien UFO control tower in Reliant stadium.
Not in the slightest.

They also beamed down J.J. Watt :texansam: and Brian Cushing:texansam:.

Soon, very soon, all will be assimilated
:texansam:

Norg
08-26-2013, 02:28 AM
I think Foster should take a few snaps in the last pre season game is he really going into the season cold hell if I was foster I would want to play a few snaps before week 1

same with JJ watt & Reed