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keyser
08-10-2013, 01:28 AM
One of the things I thought was pretty good tonight was the punting, especially that first punt. When I heard the announcers say "Lechler"*, I thought that made sense, and was impressed that we had brought him in during Free Agency.

I found out later, though, that Shapiro did all the punting. While I'd want to see more than one outing to think he's better than one of the best punters ever in the NFL, it made me wonder if we might have an actual battle at that position. I haven't been paying attention to this in the TC updates: is this actually a competition?



*Which brings me to another thing - that had to be about the worst broadcast I've ever seen. Besides the horrendous video problems and the occasional sound problems, they made mistakes identifying players (a big deal in preseason, since I don't recognize players by number yet) and spent a long time talking to the Texans' president about clear plastic bags while the Texans are putting together a nice drive (I still don't know who made some of those plays).

Texn4life
08-10-2013, 01:44 AM
I'd be willing to bet my house there is no battle to speak of. No need to put a 37 year old punter on fluky turf only for him to have a blowout trying to tackle a returner. We already know what Shane can do. Shapiro definitely was a bright spot though so I hope the coaches giving him a shot gets him a roster spot on another team.

Rey
08-10-2013, 02:05 AM
Wow, that was Shapiro?

I said a whole ago that Shapiro was a good kicker. He can also kick field goals. I thi k he's a guy they'd like to get onto the practice squad to be lecers future replacement. But I'm not sure he clears waivers.

Could they possibly have 3 kickers/punters? Doesn't seem likely with all the talent elsewhere, but if Shapiro keeps booming them like that he'll be a tough cut....

SAMURAITEXAN
08-10-2013, 03:42 AM
That was Shapiro?! Wow, that was an amazing punt.

The Pencil Neck
08-10-2013, 12:30 PM
I'm going to hate losing this guy.

Thorn
08-10-2013, 01:05 PM
It will be very interesting to see what Shane Lechler does in the upcoming Miami game.

CloakNNNdagger
08-10-2013, 02:24 PM
Wow, that was Shapiro?

I said a whole ago that Shapiro was a good kicker. He can also kick field goals. I thi k he's a guy they'd like to get onto the practice squad to be lecers future replacement. But I'm not sure he clears waivers.

Could they possibly have 3 kickers/punters? Doesn't seem likely with all the talent elsewhere, but if Shapiro keeps booming them like that he'll be a tough cut....


A mysterious injury>>>>>>>>>>IR while he practices not only punting, but also KOs and FGs.........

Corrosion
08-10-2013, 02:39 PM
A mysterious injury>>>>>>>>>>IR while he practices not only punting, but also KOs and FGs.........

Funny I was thinking the same thing ... Tho I think he might have to continue to perform at that level. Maybe they tell him to go shank a few .... so they can PS him.

CloakNNNdagger
08-10-2013, 03:38 PM
Kubiak reported that Lechler was kept out with a sore plant leg.........for precautionary measures.

Playoffs
08-10-2013, 04:04 PM
Lechler doesn't need to punt this early, missed asignment and some kid runs into his leg.

Shapiro should be kicking in this league, imo...

A.Shapiro punts 59 yards to MIN 9, Center-J.Weeks. M.Sherels to MIN 17 for 8 yards (J.Tuggle).
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A.Shapiro punts 32 yards to MIN 6, Center-J.Weeks, downed by HST-S.Keo.

A.Shapiro punts 46 yards to MIN 38, Center-J.Weeks, downed by HST. PENALTY on HST-E.Pleasant, Interference with Opportunity to Catch, 15 yards, enforced at MIN 38. Penalty on MIN-H.Smith, Illegal Substitution, superseded.

A.Shapiro punts 52 yards to MIN 22, Center-J.Weeks. S.Burton to MIN 33 for 11 yards (J.Starling; R.Griffin).

CloakNNNdagger
08-10-2013, 05:47 PM
Until I came across this source, I found very little interesting background information on Shapiro. The "kid" has lots of talent....and even more potential.


ABOUT ANDREW SHAPIRO:

Signed by Houston Texans as Undrafted Free Agent April 27, 2013! Special Teams Coach Joe Marciano.

* 2012 Fastest specialist in Fresno State History (4.53 (40), 3.96 (shuttle), 33.5 (vert).

* 2012 Honorable mention all conference.

* Named special teams player of the week by conference against Colorado (50YD AVG).

* Named All Conference preseason by Phil Steele 2012.

* Named National Honorable Mention Punter by College Football Performance Award’s 4 times (weeks 4, 9, 10, 11). Named to the All-conference academic team 3 years in a row.

* Punted 64 times for an average or 42 yards and a Net of 37 yards (2012). Long of 69 yards which tied for the second longest in the conference.

* Named Special teams Captain as a Sophomore in 2010 and Captain again in 2012.

* Graduated with B.A. in Communication in 2011.

* Finishing his M.A. in Communication Spring 2013.

* Has held for both Left and Right footed kickers.

* Punted 66 times in 2011 for 40 yards with a long of 54, had 25 punts fair caught and 21 downed inside the 20-yard line (ranked 19th nationally for punts inside the 20).

* Kicked off 17 times in 2011 for 65 yards [ave].

* As a Sophomore in 2010 punted 56 times for 38 yards, downed 20 punts inside the 20.

* Has kicked of 89 times with an average of 63 yards.

* Has 10 tackles and 1 fumble recovery.

ANDREW SHAPIRO - PUNTER- 2013 HOUSTON TEXANS

PRO EXPERIENCE: SIGNED AS UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT HOUSTON TEXANS APRIL 27, 2013. link (http://www.jillmcbridebaxter.com/clients/userprofile/Andrews)

rush2112mn
08-10-2013, 05:56 PM
One of the things I thought was pretty good tonight was the punting, especially that first punt. When I heard the announcers say "Lechler"*, I thought that made sense, and was impressed that we had brought him in during Free Agency.

I found out later, though, that Shapiro did all the punting. While I'd want to see more than one outing to think he's better than one of the best punters ever in the NFL, it made me wonder if we might have an actual battle at that position. I haven't been paying attention to this in the TC updates: is this actually a competition?



*Which brings me to another thing - that had to be about the worst broadcast I've ever seen. Besides the horrendous video problems and the occasional sound problems, they made mistakes identifying players (a big deal in preseason, since I don't recognize players by number yet) and spent a long time talking to the Texans' president about clear plastic bags while the Texans are putting together a nice drive (I still don't know who made some of those plays).

Battle.....yeah...right.......
what are you smoking....lechtler the punter...shapiro is trying out for other teams......man...the lack of intelligence in here cracks me up.....

phantom17
08-11-2013, 01:13 PM
I really want this guy on the team! Maybe all of a sudden, he will have a toe nail injury that will place him IR/ stash!:kitten:

Texn4life
08-11-2013, 01:20 PM
We can definitely be the kings (or queens for the women here) of overreactions sometimes. This thread is proof positive of that.

amazing80
08-11-2013, 01:42 PM
We can definitely be the kings (or queens for the women here) of overreactions sometimes. This thread is proof positive of that.

No it isn't. He is a nice surprise and showed good leg. I prefer a cheaper option at K and P and use them as long term answers rather than keep paying for over priced vets. We're getting to a point as a team where every dollar spent matters. It may not seem like much for Lechler or Graham, but if you can save even 1 or 2 million dollars it is worth it. Especially since both younger players are damn near equal to their older counterparts.

IBleedTexans
08-11-2013, 01:45 PM
No it isn't. He is a nice surprise and showed good leg. I prefer a cheaper option at K and P and use them as long term answers rather than keep paying for over priced vets. We're getting to a point as a team where every dollar spent matters. It may not seem like much for Lechler or Graham, but if you can save even 1 or 2 million dollars it is worth it. Especially since both younger players are damn near equal to their older counterparts.

Graham is no longer on this team, and I believe Lechlar took a pay-cut because he wanted to play here

amazing80
08-11-2013, 01:48 PM
Graham is no longer on this team, and I believe Lechlar took a pay-cut because he wanted to play here

I must have slept walk on Graham :kubepalm:

And lechler is signed for 3 years 5.5 million compared to Shapiros minimum salary.

Texn4life
08-11-2013, 01:53 PM
No it isn't. He is a nice surprise and showed good leg. I prefer a cheaper option at K and P and use them as long term answers rather than keep paying for over priced vets. We're getting to a point as a team where every dollar spent matters. It may not seem like much for Lechler or Graham, but if you can save even 1 or 2 million dollars it is worth it. Especially since both younger players are damn near equal to their older counterparts.

Kubiak practically begged Lechler to join the team. After signing one of the best players to ever play his position, and then having him take a big pay cut you don't release him unless he's stinking up the place. Am I in the twilight zone or something?

Texn4life
08-11-2013, 01:55 PM
And Matt Turk also had some games where he showed a nice leg. Its been one freaking preseason game people!

infantrycak
08-11-2013, 01:56 PM
No it isn't. ... Especially since both younger players are damn near equal to their older counterparts.

Yeah it is when people start making statements that a rookie is damn near equal to a likely hall of famer.

IBleedTexans
08-11-2013, 02:00 PM
Kubiak practially begged Lechler to join the team. After signing one of the best players to ever play his position, and then having him take a big pay cut you don't release him unless he's stinking up the place. Am I in the twilight zone or something?

We surely don't do that to one of our own Texan. He played his college ball here, could be a story book ending with Lechlar retiring a champion. Or we could drop him , he sign for the vet min in Foxboro and bite us in the ass. No thanks ill take the first one. :fans:

Texn4life
08-11-2013, 02:07 PM
I mean, let's just say all of our younger backs go out and have 100 yards apiece next game. We might as well just release Foster and go with the younger, cheaper options right? They clearly showed they could flash in 1 game so it only makes sense. I just don't understand sometimes.

amazing80
08-11-2013, 02:08 PM
Yeah it is when people start making statements that a rookie is damn near equal to a likely hall of famer.

When talking about Punters, its not even remotely close to slap in the face calling a rookie and could be HOF (wont happen) equals. The 1 or 2 yards you lose per punt is well worth saving 2 million bucks when it means not losing someone like Watt, Cushing or any other MORE IMPORTANT player.

b0ng
08-11-2013, 02:19 PM
Yeah it is when people start making statements that a rookie is damn near equal to a likely hall of famer.

I would like to point out the Ray Guy argument wrt Lechler's chances for the hof.

Wolf
08-18-2013, 02:39 PM
Seemed the dolphins liked to fair catch

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2013, 02:45 PM
Seemed the dolphins liked to fair catch

Shapiro didn't exactly give them much choice in the matter.