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Section516
06-19-2013, 02:51 PM
#15

Houston Texans
LAST SEASON: 12-4 (first place AFC South)

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Category averages are weighted by importance to generate overall score.

Roster: On the defensive side of the ball they are loaded with playmakers, especially in the front seven. Guys such as J.J. Watt, Brian Cushing, Whitney Mercilus and others should be productive for a long time and there is solid depth here, especially at linebacker. The offense may be a different story, as most of their playmakers are veterans like Andre Johnson, who will be near the end of their careers in 2016. They need strong offensive drafts in the next couple of years. -- Horton

Quarterback: The Texans' non-QB roster ranked eighth, at least six spots higher than the rankings for any of the teams ranked lower than Houston overall. Quarterback Matt Schaub, running back Arian Foster and Johnson all have contracts set to expire after the 2016 season, but there's no real sense this group is going to win a championship together. Schaub has proven to be competent, but he might have found his ceiling. -- Sando

Draft: The jury is still out on draft returns from 2010 and 2012, but the selection of Watt in 2011 -- drafted one spot behind Blaine Gabbert -- could turn into a legendary pick given his early pace. Houston did a nice job in 2013, but it's hard to imagine what this offense would have been like without the services of Johnson in recent years, and finding solutions to keep the passing game effective could be the big question going forward. If 2013 pick DeAndre Hopkins emerges, we could have the answer to that question. -- Kiper

Front office: Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith have built a team that fits their system (particularly that of defensive coordinator Wade Phillips) very well. The addition of Ed Reed and the unheralded additions of Shane Lechler and Greg Jones in free agency were very good moves, though Reed is just a short-term fix. The return from injury of Cushing will help the defense. The key question is can Schaub make this team a genuine contender instead of simply a good team? -- Polian

Coaching: I have to give a lot of credit to owner Bob McNair for sticking with Kubiak. There were calls for his head after the team went 6-10 a couple years ago, but under Kubiak's leadership they have won the AFC South and a playoff game in each of the past two seasons. He's done a good job of coaching and hiring Wade Phillips has helped out the defense. The next step for Kubiak is getting Schaub to play at a higher level in the playoffs. -- Edwards

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9387680/nfl-future-power-rankings-projecting-every-franchise-entering-2016-season

Corrosion
06-19-2013, 03:06 PM
#15 ?!


A top 5 defense in the NFL.

A 1500+ yard receiver.

A RB who led the league in rushing and total yards in 2010.

Three probowlers on the offensive line.

A QB that threw for 4500yards in back to back seasons .....


Back to back division champs ....


Yeah , they sound like a 15th ranked team to me.

Section516
06-19-2013, 03:07 PM
Sorry, didn't put in the scope - This is what the team with current roster etc would be in 2016.

EllisUnit
06-19-2013, 05:18 PM
Sorry, didn't put in the scope - This is what the team with current roster etc would be in 2016.

Well thats just plain dumb, why show prediction rankings for 2016 ? I guess this upcoming season for them just isnt enough haha. Oh lord i hate the off season.

HJam72
06-19-2013, 05:35 PM
Yes, but what everybody wants to know is....what about 2032?

thunderkyss
06-19-2013, 05:38 PM
Well thats just plain dumb, why show prediction rankings for 2016 ? I guess this upcoming season for them just isnt enough haha. Oh lord i hate the off season.

It's about which organization is built for the long haul.

ESPN Insider's NFL Future Power Rankings are an attempt by our expert analysts to measure the confidence they have in each franchise as it projects three seasons ahead. It is not a predicted order of finish for the 2016 season, but rather a barometer tracking where each franchise is heading. And from our first installment of the project last summer to now, we've already seen some organizations make great strides towards becoming a Super Bowl contender, while others have slipped back towards square one.

Like a lot of our fans here, they have little confidence in Kubiak/Schaub

RagingBull
06-19-2013, 06:15 PM
I think it has more to do with there is no other receiver in position to "take the torch" and it is unlikely that Schaub will be a top quarterback in 3 years, and he is not even signed with us at that point.

The Pencil Neck
06-19-2013, 07:49 PM
People can only moderately predict week-to-week and can't even predict accurately who'll be there at the end of this upcoming season. Predicting what's coming in 3 seasons? lol. OK.

:spit:

Scooter
06-19-2013, 08:23 PM
we have a very young roster, why would be drop so far moving forward as more of our players reach their primes and veteran status? our receiving core outside of andre johnson is in their second season. our oldest runningback is going into his 5th season. our line has 2 players 30+ (one on his way out). our backup qb's are in their 2nd and 3rd seasons. the defense is even younger outside of ed reed.

heck on the official site's roster, we only have 2 players over 32 years old (reed and lechler).

HJam72
06-19-2013, 08:45 PM
I think it has more to do with there is no other receiver in position to "take the torch" and it is unlikely that Schaub will be a top quarterback in 3 years, and he is not even signed with us at that point.

So, we will tank it, go 1-15, beating only the Colts in Indy, and draft the next Andrew Luck. :turtle:

False Start
06-19-2013, 08:52 PM
BS

Some of the teams ranked ahead of them, are laughable. :littlelol: :kubepalm:

Texan_Bill
06-19-2013, 08:57 PM
Pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever read.

EllisUnit
06-20-2013, 02:25 PM
It's about which organization is built for the long haul.



Like a lot of our fans here, they have little confidence in Kubiak/Schaub

yeah but come on now, this is not including 2 drafts, and off seasons of FAs coming and coming. To predict that is retarded considering noone knows what will happen between now and then, especially since nearly half the roster could change in that time period.

Every team has its super stars like we have Foster, AJ, Watt, Cush, JoJo and every team has its average our high potential guys. Most the superstars stay with the team that drafted them unless they are wanting way to much, the average guys change teams all the time.

Just saying predicting 3 years from now is a little dumb IMO.

Big Lou
06-20-2013, 07:06 PM
Yes, but what everybody wants to know is....what about 2032?

This is absolutely ridiculous. We will absolutely, no doubt, 100% positively, for sure be ranked 13th in 2016. Who ever predicted this is a complete idiot. They obviousley don't know the Texans organization, to be that far off with thier assesment in 3 years. Unbelievable................

DocBar
06-20-2013, 07:38 PM
Pull my finger and I'll tell you who stinks after 3 years.....

TexansBull
06-20-2013, 08:17 PM
Why are they even talking about Schaub in 2016? What are the chances of him still being around as starting QB? Even with Haynesworth out of the league?

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Thorn
06-21-2013, 03:51 PM
Pull my finger and I'll tell you who stinks after 3 years.....

Good lord, where have you been putting your finger!? :eek:

EllisUnit
06-21-2013, 05:46 PM
Good lord, where have you been putting your finger!? :eek:

Maybe in Mrs cleo the physic lady....yeah thats wrong :pinned:

MEGA SWATT
06-26-2013, 11:06 PM
So we'll suck in 2085? Cool story bro.

ObsiWan
06-26-2013, 11:56 PM
It's about which organization is built for the long haul.

Like a lot of our fans here, they have little confidence in Kubiak/Schaub

If this little mental masturbation exercise is indeed about the probability of future success, shouldn't a team's draft history and front office stability carry more weight than they're giving them?
http://a.espncdn.com/magazine/Insider/FuturePower.png

They are giving the QB too much weight for my money. Do they reeeeally think 40-year old Peyton, or Brady, will be as effective in '16 as they were last year?? Or that Kaepernick or Russell Wilson or RGIII won't get knocked out and/or decline (see Michael Vick) in performance between now and then. At the very least defensive coordinators will figure out how to game plan effectively for them by then.
Sorry, if this Buy/Sell, I'm selling.

thunderkyss
06-27-2013, 04:59 AM
They are giving the QB too much weight for my money.

I agree.

ArlingtonTexan
06-28-2013, 05:18 PM
If this little mental masturbation exercise is indeed about the probability of future success, shouldn't a team's draft history and front office stability carry more weight than they're giving them?
http://a.espncdn.com/magazine/Insider/FuturePower.png

They are giving the QB too much weight for my money. Do they reeeeally think 40-year old Peyton, or Brady, will be as effective in '16 as they were last year?? Or that Kaepernick or Russell Wilson or RGIII won't get knocked out and/or decline (see Michael Vick) in performance between now and then. At the very least defensive coordinators will figure out how to game plan effectively for them by then.
Sorry, if this Buy/Sell, I'm selling.

I am in the camp this overall exercise is just something to do during the most boring time of the NFL calendar, but largely you
have an average to ok veteran and two dudes who have truly need to prove to be even legitimate back-ups. Teams hoping that their young dude is the real deal and can avoid injury are in way better shape that hoping Yates or Case turn even into a Schuab level QB or hoping that the right guy falls in the draft or the right free agents signs with Texans or another Schuab is laying in wait for trade. The Texans long-term QB(see 2016) situation is pretty bleak based on what there now.

On top of that, by 2016 both foster and Johnson are probably not playing at high levels and if this piece is correct not even under contract. This means the Texans will have to replace a top 5 RB, top 5 WR in addition to replacing a nice complimentary TE in Daniels.

On the positive, the Texans have a ton of young bodies on both defensive front seven and the OL. With proper and continued development, both of those could be top of the league units.

Without young even semi-proven difference makers at QB,RB and WR (obviously the most hope here), I can't fault the long-term view of averageness as much as I want coming from ESPN

KA4Texan
06-28-2013, 06:45 PM
I don't care what "experts" say.

After all, as the saying goes. "experts built the Titanic, an amateur built the Ark. "

No matter what any ranking says, being a Texans fan in their worst season is STILL better than being a Cowboys fan in their best.:shades: