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infantrycak
06-13-2013, 02:25 PM
The NFL is now prohibiting purses and other similar bags from pro football stadiums.

A team source alerted PFT to the looming change in the NFL’s policy regarding bags. The NFL has confirmed that the policy, primarily intended to enhance safety, was revised based on the recommendation of the Stadium Security and Fan Conduct Committee.

Fans will be encouraged to bring no bags of any kind to NFL stadiums. Starting with the 2013 preseason, only certain bags will be permitted.

Specifically, the bags must be clear, and they must be made of plastic, vinyl, or PVC. The dimensions may not exceed 12 inches by six inches by 12 inches. Alternatively, fans may bring a one-gallon Ziploc (product placement!) freezer bag.

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/13/league-alters-bag-policy-for-safety-convenience/)

OK this ranks up there on the WTFometer. Seriously, women can't bring their ordinary purses? There hasn't been a single incident at an NFL stadium making this even paranoid reasonable.

The Pencil Neck
06-13-2013, 02:38 PM
Um.

OK.

So.

How am I supposed to tell my wife this?

HOU-TEX
06-13-2013, 02:43 PM
Stupid! I'm not sure this helps their campaign to get more fans to attend games. Another reason (in addition to drunks, parking, stupid fans, cost, etc) why the wife and I are happy campers at home watching on the 52 come game time.

eriadoc
06-13-2013, 02:44 PM
The TSA has already done random screening on the metro rail. Would you really be surprised if they took over stadium security? Would you be surprised if they were working with the NFL to determine entry point security?

Kaiser Toro
06-13-2013, 02:54 PM
Big pockets and Texan branded, see through bags are the future.

Dutchrudder
06-13-2013, 02:59 PM
Fan Conduct Committee

5 bucks says that committee is composed entirely of men.

Heath Shuler
06-13-2013, 02:59 PM
No bags? So titan fan can't bring his/her brown paper bag to wear on their head? That just doesn't seem fair.


http://funnycrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Titans-Fan-1.jpg

:swatter:

Rey
06-13-2013, 03:07 PM
So if a woman is carrying tampons or some other private stuff, it has to be in a clear bag for the world to see?

LMAO!

CloakNNNdagger
06-13-2013, 03:19 PM
So if a woman is carrying tampons or some other private stuff, it has to be in a clear bag for the world to see?

LMAO!

Maybe in their clutch purse, but diaper bags?..................will love seeing used diapers through the clear bags.......and since these will be single compartment..........enjoy the fragrance each time it is opened.

CloakNNNdagger
06-13-2013, 03:25 PM
BTW, where can I purchase my $130 Texans designer Guicci clear bag?

drs23
06-13-2013, 07:46 PM
Stupid! I'm not sure this helps their campaign to get more fans to attend games. Another reason (in addition to drunks, parking, stupid fans, cost, etc) why the wife and I are happy campers at home watching on the 52 come game time.

Just a "52"? :user:

J/K :D

texanhead08
06-13-2013, 09:40 PM
This is bull**** I don't like that I am going to have to pack my camera and hopefully not out in a rainstorm when the game ends and expose it to the elements.

CretorFrigg
06-14-2013, 08:36 AM
Damn...how else am I going to smuggle drinks in?

HOU-TEX
06-14-2013, 09:06 AM
Just a "52"? :user:

J/K :D

Yup, I got it shortly after the LCDs first came out. Then, it was considered one of the best and the price was proof of that. It pisses me off walking through stores seeing LCDs and LEDs larger than mine at a much cheaper price. Oh well, I loved it then and I'm still enjoying it.

The next one will cover the entire wall

b0ng
06-14-2013, 09:40 AM
Don't worry, I'm absolutely sure the NFL is going to start selling see-through purses/bags with team logos on them for an exorbitant price. Feels kind of odd that they are talking about increasing the in-game experience to try to get people to come to the stadiums and not watch at home, while doing this.

Playoffs
06-14-2013, 09:44 AM
Pistol toting female football fans ruining for all us guys. :tomato:

StarStruck
06-14-2013, 03:00 PM
Damn...how else am I going to smuggle drinks in?

Thank goodness for backup :)

Texanfan4ever
06-14-2013, 04:07 PM
Is anyone as thoroughly disgusted with this stupid rule as I am. Oh wait, you can now buy a CLEAR NFL bag. THey have them for SALE at the store and the website. Well of course they do. Since women make up about 40% of the fan base that attend games, think of the money they will make off of these "plastic" purses. Of course you need one with your teams's logo on it. I have an idea. They buy back the 4 NFL Texan bags I own right now and GIVE me a clear plastic one. Ugh! :overreact:

I am really put out over this!

ObsiWan
06-14-2013, 04:14 PM
Is anyone as thoroughly disgusted with this stupid rule as I am. Oh wait, you can now buy a CLEAR NFL bag. THey have them for SALE at the store and the website. Well of course they do. Since women make up about 40% of the fan base that attend games, think of the money they will make off of these "plastic" purses. Of course you need one with your teams's logo on it. I have an idea. They buy back the 4 NFL Texan bags I own right now and GIVE me a clear plastic one. Ugh! :overreact:

I am really put out over this!
what "No Purse" rule??

when did that happen??

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xpadHP2LoUA/S24wVInaCCI/AAAAAAAAAq0/Qq2pMnWqOCM/S1600-R/original.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
06-14-2013, 04:15 PM
Cak started a thread on this.......it got interesting:
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100620

Texanfan4ever
06-14-2013, 04:29 PM
Oh sorry, I had looked for another post. Actually couldn't believe there wasn't one. I'm still irritated.

CloakNNNdagger
06-14-2013, 04:41 PM
We will eventually enter the era of TD Garden where only clutch bags are allowed now.........or some college stadiums where NO bags are allowed.

eriadoc
06-14-2013, 05:01 PM
Dropped my PSLs after the '08 season and stopped giving them money directly a few years ago. I hate to say it, but I can envision a time when the NFL is like MLB to me, if they continue doing a lot of the stuff they've begun under Goodell. *shrug* We shall see.

StarStruck
06-14-2013, 07:21 PM
I just read my official Texans email.

CloakNNNdagger
06-15-2013, 01:46 PM
Is anyone as thoroughly disgusted with this stupid rule as I am. Oh wait, you can now buy a CLEAR NFL bag. THey have them for SALE at the store and the website. Well of course they do. Since women make up about 40% of the fan base that attend games, think of the money they will make off of these "plastic" purses. Of course you need one with your teams's logo on it. I have an idea. They buy back the 4 NFL Texan bags I own right now and GIVE me a clear plastic one. Ugh! :overreact:

I am really put out over this!

Don't forget the official designer Texans clutch purse that the gals are sure to run out and buy.

The mini purses now available are too large ( 7.5" H x 10.5" W x 1" D) to pass...........unless your wife has the hands of large adult gorilla.:toropalm:

Malloy
06-18-2013, 01:29 AM
Don't think this is about security, it's about making you Guys buy everything on site. In a couple of years, they'll kill tailgating...

Señor Stan
06-18-2013, 04:54 AM
I say one of the ladies should decorate a sensibly sized purse with Matt Schaub paraphernalia. When told by Texans staff that they purse does not comply, they can pull out their iPhone and ask the official "for the record...are you saying that Matt Schaub is not clutch?"

2012Champs
06-18-2013, 07:59 AM
Don't think this is about security, it's about making you Guys buy everything on site. In a couple of years, they'll kill tailgating...

That may be a bit overboard but if it happend the tailgating would move elsewhere

silvrhand
06-18-2013, 12:36 PM
someone should file a lawsuit for monopolistic type atmosphere, funny how when the put the law in they start selling bags instantly with NFL logo.

disaacks3
06-18-2013, 01:21 PM
Kinda makes you ill just reading it.

•Bags that are clear plastic, vinyl or PVC and do not exceed 12” x 6” x 12.” (Official NFL team logo clear plastic tote bags will be available through club merchandise outlets or at nflshop.com), or

•One-gallon clear plastic freezer bag (Ziploc bag or similar).

•Small clutch bags, approximately the size of a hand, with or without a handle or strap can be taken into the stadium with one of the clear plastic bags.

•An exception will be made for medically necessary items after proper inspection at a gate designated for this purpose.

Prohibited items include, but are not limited to: purses larger than a clutch bag, coolers, briefcases, backpacks, fanny packs, cinch bags, seat cushions, luggage of any kind, computer bags and camera bags or any bag larger than the permissible size. Link (http://www.nfl.com/qs/allclear/index.jsp)

I'm with Silvrhand - A lawsuit does seem in order. Gee, the cushions I bought from you, in your stadium, for use in your stadium can no longer be brought? Or the bags you distributed? How convenient that you just happen to be marketing new bags that will meet your requirements.

What a crock of $hit!

Malloy
06-18-2013, 02:37 PM
In a couple of years, you'll have to show your Schaub underwear to be allowed into the stadium... :)

infantrycak
06-18-2013, 02:41 PM
In a couple of years, you'll have to show your Schaub underwear to be allowed into the stadium... :)

And that will have to be see through. :mcnugget:

ChampionTexan
06-18-2013, 02:51 PM
The Eagles response to the new policy and the fan reaction:

So, to help fans adjust, the Eagles will distribute complimentary team bags to all season-ticket holders during the week of July 22. One bag will be distributed for each season ticket.
LINK (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/eagles-give-season-ticket-holders-clear-bags)

I guess this is somewhat helpful, although it does nothing for those buying single game tickets.

The other thing that I noticed - which may be of interest to a number of folks here - is that the policy is also in place for all TC practices that are open to the public.

BullBlitz
06-18-2013, 03:19 PM
That may be a bit overboard but if it happend the tailgating would move elsewhere

And that....would be awesome.

Double Barrel
06-18-2013, 03:34 PM
What a goofy policy.

If someone was intent on doing something evil, there is a bottleneck of people at every entrance. Someone could do something sinister and hurt a lot of folks before they even get to enter the gates. Same results on national news.

Doppelganger
06-18-2013, 05:38 PM
Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/13/league-alters-bag-policy-for-safety-convenience/)

OK this ranks up there on the WTFometer. Seriously, women can't bring their ordinary purses? There hasn't been a single incident at an NFL stadium making this even paranoid reasonable.

They may claim its for for security reasons. I think it is so they can sell more concessions.

ObsiWan
06-18-2013, 07:16 PM
Here is an alternate opinion (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/06/14/why-i-am-ecstatic-about-the-new-nfl-bag-policy-and-you-should-be-too/) (at least alternate from the one's posted in this thread)...
HOUSTON (CBS Houston) - I am a woman and yes, I am ecstatic about the NFL’s new handbag policy. Like many women do, I also own many large handbags that could fit a small animal or portable appliance. Do I bring these bags to professional sporting events? Yes, sometimes I do. However, many, many times over the years, I have worried about the backpack and handbag contents of people around me.

...

Reliant Stadium holds 71,500 people, not including employees, concession workers, players, and team officials. It has occurred to me nearly every time I go through stadium security with my kids, that it would only take one looney tune to bring a homemade bomb or explosive to target 71,500 people in an enclosed space. I am, by far, not a paranoid person who sits around watching 24-hour news channels all day long. Life is unpredictable and the world is changing. It’s sad but we need to deal with it. Don’t show me the stats (or lack thereof) on explosives at U.S. sporting events. I am sure that would not give the killed or maimed Boston Marathon victims any solace, and it does not give me any solace either. If someone on that marathon committee had suggested banning backpacks, fanny packs and running drink packs, perhaps many would have been in an uproar as well prior to April 15, 2013. Do we want to endure another national tragedy before acting?


This woman says it's a good idea. Other than installing X-ray machines (which will probably be reflected in higher ticket prices) and scanning everyone who goes thru the gates, I'm not sure what the alternatives are.

Further, since I don't carry a purse anyway, I really don't think I should "get to vote" on this. But I will concede, she has a point. Do we implement this change now or wait until something really ugly DOES happen?

Texan_Bill
06-18-2013, 07:21 PM
Hobie :hobie: will be extremely upset at this change in policy!

StarStruck
06-18-2013, 09:42 PM
Personally, I don't care although I can see the benefits as well as the concerns. The concern are valid because IMO because of those with extreme psychological issues have caused many inconveniences of freedoms we once took for granted. The one I miss the most is not being able se greet or see my loved ones off at the airport.

The upside in addition to the safety issue, should be quicker entry into the game. The only holdup for bag checks should be condensed to one or two lines for those who have special needs that require a thorough check. Also, to be real, how many bag checkers really thoroughly check the bags entering stadiums anyway? I was at a game in Dallas a few years ago (since moving to the new stadium) and the fans that sat next to me finished off a fifth of bourbon and a pint of vodka. Curious, I struck up a conversation and asked how were they able to get that much alcohol into the stadium? I was told easy, just hide the pint in a purse underneath feminine products, and the fifth in boots. With the new policy, the purse issue has been addressed, but the boots, seems that we're not there yet. So if the social drinker is clever, so would a terrorist.

I must say that I like how the Eagles are taking a customer friendly approach to the change.

eriadoc
06-18-2013, 09:51 PM
This woman says it's a good idea. Other than installing X-ray machines (which will probably be reflected in higher ticket prices) and scanning everyone who goes thru the gates, I'm not sure what the alternatives are.

Strip search everyone who goes in. Oh, I know ... that takes too long. If only there were an electronic way to see someone naked ...

AggieTexan
07-25-2013, 05:30 PM
Sorry for dragging up an old topic, but now that the season is getting closer, I think we may start hearing more about this again.

I was angry when I read it in June, and I'm still ticked off. I thought about it again yesterday for the first time in a while, because I read the memo that I can't take my regular purse with me when I take some 15 year old boys to training camp next week. That's right -- the no purse rule is in effect for sitting outside in the bleachers at 8:00 a.m.:overreact:

I started digging through my purses looking for something compliant, and I don't have a thing! The smallest bag I own, which is tiny and barely fits my phone, keys, and a lip gloss is 1/2 inch too long. Of course I'm going to try to use it next week and see what they say, but 4.5 X 6.5 is ridiculously small. Heck, my wallets are too big!

I spent some time shopping on-line today, and I wasn't able to find anything with a strap that would work. I'm sure everything will be OK though, because the NFL is poised to make hundreds of thousands of dollars selling cheap plastic bags for us to replace all our logo items we bought from them that are now prohibited. Yes, I have 4 different Texans gameday purses. All official. All banned.

I did write the Texans and the NFL. I know they won't change anything, but it felt good to get it off my chest. I think the thing that really bugs me the most is the NFL has shown that they really didn't think about their huge female fan base and the millions of dollars a year we spend on their product. I understand why they say they did what they did (although I think it was financial too), I just think they could have been a little more reasonable when they set their size restriction.

OK...rant over. Can you just see the drama outside the stadium next month from the thousands of people that don't really pay attention to stuff like this?

StarStruck
07-25-2013, 09:39 PM
I'm cool with the policy and can keep the money, debit card and phone in my jeans pocket. Anything else, where's there is a will there is a way.

Rey
07-25-2013, 09:59 PM
I read on the texans website that this policy will be in affect for those attending training camp practices. Just a heads up so you don't go out there and get surprised.

mattieuk
07-25-2013, 10:21 PM
Utterly ridiculous. A blatant cash grab to sell ****ty plastic bags to fans who pay a fortune for tickets, which will get worn out after a couple of games, and up in a landfill somewhere.

I don't really want to give any public attention to their stupid fan-scam, but their website doesn't even have Texans bags on there CrappyBag© (http://www.nflshop.com/All_Clear) website.

And seriously - $10 for the privilege of a piece of junk that obviously costs the NFL $0.25 to produce.

Give them out for free, and perhaps people will believe you're trying to protect the fans rather than gouge them.

Asshats.

Edit: And to make things even worse, now because I've been Googling stupid NFL see through bags, the intelligent advertising banners have decided that I would like an advert about Yves Saint Lauren handbags.

Double Barrel
07-26-2013, 10:53 AM
Sitting in my big comfy leather easy-chair with 56" HD and DVR in front of me is becoming more and more appealing with each passing year.

I love going to games, but between the ever-increasing expenses and now on-going hassles to go to games, I am starting to be priced out and pissed off about dealing with any of it.

Rey
07-26-2013, 11:11 AM
Sitting in my big comfy leather easy-chair with 56" HD and DVR in front of me is becoming more and more appealing with each passing year.

I love going to games, but between the ever-increasing expenses and now on-going hassles to go to games, I am starting to be priced out and pissed off about dealing with any of it.

I gave up my season tickets last year. I might go to a game or two a season, but I much prefer waking up..doing some stuff around the house...having the wife cook some gameday meal like here famous nachos...Having reasonably priced beverages a few steps away...60 inches of fun......ect ect....

And then when the game is over the most traffic I face if I want to go somewhere is some parked cars on the street in my culdesac......Or I can just have grown up time with the wife...

Yeah...I LOVE my at home game day experience.

NFL is going to have to do more than add a big screen with the RZ channel to get me to want to come to more games.

eriadoc
07-26-2013, 11:37 AM
Been watching at home since right after the Rosencopter game. Honestly can't say I regret giving up my PSLs and tix. I save a lot of money, I have good beer right next to my couch, I eat great food, and I have no other fans to deal with either in game or in the parking lot. And I can use whatever bag I want, carry whatever I want in my pockets, and no one searches me.

It's great. :)

Blake
07-26-2013, 12:32 PM
I gave up my season tickets last year. I might go to a game or two a season, but I much prefer waking up..doing some stuff around the house...having the wife cook some gameday meal like here famous nachos...Having reasonably priced beverages a few steps away...60 inches of fun......ect ect....

And then when the game is over the most traffic I face if I want to go somewhere is some parked cars on the street in my culdesac......Or I can just have grown up time with the wife...

Yeah...I LOVE my at home game day experience.

NFL is going to have to do more than add a big screen with the RZ channel to get me to want to come to more games.

Im roughly the same way. I split season tickets and go to 3-4 games.

P.S. Let me know when you're wife makes some of those nachos so we can come try them.

Rey
07-26-2013, 12:47 PM
Im roughly the same way. I split season tickets and go to 3-4 games.

P.S. Let me know when you're wife makes some of those nachos so we can come try them.

Will do :)

disaacks3
07-26-2013, 01:38 PM
Im roughly the same way. I split season tickets and go to 3-4 games.

P.S. Let me know when you're wife makes some of those nachos so we can come try them.

I was just thankful you weren't asking for the grown up time with his wife! :peek:

I love the gameday experience too much to give it up quite yet, and I'm just now introducing the young ones to the fun.

Porky
07-26-2013, 01:43 PM
This has as much to do with safety of the crowd as red light cameras have to do with stopping accidents. It might be about the appearance of safety but not actual safety. And of course, how convenient that they happen to have a bag that you can purchase.

And the pointless part is the real troublemakers and terrorists will always find a way. Has the NFL never heard of the shoe bomber?

I like going once in a blue moon, especially when I get free tix, but most weeks, I'm happy as a frog on a lily pad sitting in front of my Sony 60" LCD and seeing it all in beautiful HD. No gas money, no drunk idiots running into my car, no $6 beer and $3.50 bottled water, no waiting in lines, no over-priced concessions.

Maybe McNair, Godell, et al should read a book called the Goose that laid the golden egg.

mattieuk
07-26-2013, 02:09 PM
Having been a security guard at games

I can tell you from experience that by not allowing bags/purses into the
stadium reduces wait times for those in the back waiting to get in, eliminates any risk of someone attempting to bring in alcohol/drugs

now it doesn't mean fans won't try

I had one guy try to pull the wool over my eyes, noticed a large bulge
and questioned what it was..he proceeded to pull out several liquor
bottles which he was attempting to bring in and was forced to dump
out before he was allowed entry

but glad to see the NFL taking initiative to make games more fan friendly

Do you think that there is a chance that because of the new safer bags, that security presence will be lower, and the guards who are on duty, will check the bags less than before when they had to look through a rucksack?

Looking at the official NFL approved bags they're selling - it would be incredible easy to sticky tape a joint/bag of coke behind that big NFL/team logo, so that anything less than a glance at the contents of the bag wouldn't spot it.

I know it also doesn't affect you guys as much, but having gone to watch football up in Seattle people might be underestimating the value of being able to take a waterproof rucksack to the game for ponchos/rainjackets when the inevitable mid game downpour on the exposed section of the stadium begins.

Rey
07-26-2013, 02:09 PM
Having been a security guard at games

I can tell you from experience that by not allowing bags/purses into the
stadium reduces wait times for those in the back waiting to get in

I've been to several games and I don't ever remember waiting in line to get in and thinking OMG! why is this taking so long....

b0ng
07-26-2013, 02:19 PM
I've been to several games and I don't ever remember waiting in line to get in and thinking OMG! why is this taking so long....

Same. I think this is mostly targeted at people who like to smuggle in their own alcohol. I guess binocular cases/bags are also out of bounds with these new rules.

AggieTexan
07-26-2013, 04:39 PM
I'm wondering who the genius is that determined 4.5 X 6.5 was the largest purse allowed? Did they measure a Kotex pad or something? Is there research that says people smuggle bombs in a 6 X 8 bag, but they don't fit in a 4.5 X 6.5 bag? It just seems like such an arbitrary set of numbers. Even 6 X 8 would make looking for something compliant a LOT easier.

I'm going to try my luck with an ever-so-slightly oversized purse at training camp next week. The smallest thing I have is 4.5 X 7.5 and it's tiny. It will hold my keys, phone, license, credit card, and cash, but nothing else. I'll be interested to see if they're out there with a ruler.

I'm not ready to give up tickets, but I have to admit the more it becomes a hassle the less I want to go. If the NFL wants to get women and children out of their stadiums this is a step in the right direction.

rush2112mn
07-26-2013, 05:22 PM
Just to let you guys know....you can not find a Texan reusable bag on NFL.com.....the Texans store at Reliant is not going to have any bags until September at the earliest.

I did find a website that reusable bags....totes that fit the required measurements and are see through...they have like 13 different types of bags that are under the required measurements......

www.clear-handbags.com

Just thought I would pass that information along.....hope it helps out.....

PapaL
07-26-2013, 05:26 PM
I would guess the Boston Bombing and the bags/backpacks have something to do with the sizes.

Rey
07-26-2013, 05:27 PM
I would guess the Boston Bombing and the bags/backpacks have something to do with the sizes.

Was that before or after the NFL announced this? I can't remember...

Seems like this was announced a good while before that though.

AggieTexan
07-26-2013, 05:40 PM
Was that before or after the NFL announced this? I can't remember...

Seems like this was announced a good while before that though.

No, the Boston Marathon bombing came first. This is the NFL's response.

disaacks3
07-26-2013, 05:46 PM
No, the Boston Marathon bombing came first. This is the NFL's response. Yep, they'd never have caught a pressure-cooker at the bag check.

:vincepalm:

NitroGSXR
07-26-2013, 06:43 PM
I'm cool with the policy and can keep the money, debit card and phone in my jeans pocket. Anything else, where's there is a will there is a way.

Wow. I'm not cool with the policy. I'm really sympathetic for the women including my wife who will have to show the world when they are going through their menstrual cycle or even if they are sick. Speaking of sick... how about those who have medical concerns? Children?

I'm not saying that I haven't been worried about terrorism. I have. I sure hope it never happens but it's an inevitable. That being said... I don't care. Football is our down time and it's just been militarized. Think about it... we're going from the LAMEST friskdowns that I have ever had to... being stripped of dignity.

This is just an amazingly erosive move by the Texans.

StarStruck
07-26-2013, 08:30 PM
Wow. I'm not cool with the policy. I'm really sympathetic for the women including my wife who will have to show the world when they are going through their menstrual cycle or even if they are sick. Speaking of sick... how about those who have medical concerns? Children?

I'm not saying that I haven't been worried about terrorism. I have. I sure hope it never happens but it's an inevitable. That being said... I don't care. Football is our down time and it's just been militarized. Think about it... we're going from the LAMEST friskdowns that I have ever had to... being stripped of dignity.

This is just an amazingly erosive move by the Texans.
It isn't the Texans it's NFL. I understand you having different opinion and respect such. Personally I prefer to travel light which reduces hassle. Now if I want booze in my coke or lemonade, there will be. Have you ever been through a search at some concerts yet once the lights are down you pray/hope there's no random drug test the next day at work .

PapaL
07-26-2013, 08:50 PM
Wow. I'm not cool with the policy. I'm really sympathetic for the women including my wife who will have to show the world when they are going through their menstrual cycle or even if they are sick. Speaking of sick... how about those who have medical concerns? Children?

I'm not saying that I haven't been worried about terrorism. I have. I sure hope it never happens but it's an inevitable. That being said... I don't care. Football is our down time and it's just been militarized. Think about it... we're going from the LAMEST friskdowns that I have ever had to... being stripped of dignity.

This is just an amazingly erosive move by the Texans.

I don't know what kind of women you're use to traveling or enjoying activities with but all of the ones I hang out with have never brought along a Costco pallet of feminine napkins or products.

If you're so sick that you need a chest of medical supplies you probably shouldn't be around thousands of people. Keep in mind I said sick and not disabled; huge difference and one must be accommodated.

At the end of the day we all have options. You can always sit at home with your pallet of pads and your chest of OTC meds and enjoy the game or don't. It's a free country.

NitroGSXR
07-26-2013, 09:09 PM
I don't know what kind of women you're use to traveling or enjoying activities with but all of the ones I hang out with have never brought along a Costco pallet of feminine napkins or products.

One of the most useless things ever posted and you post a lot of useless stuff as is.

If you're so sick that you need a chest of medical supplies you probably shouldn't be around thousands of people. Keep in mind I said sick and not disabled; huge difference and one must be accommodated.

I'll be sure to pass along your message to cancer patients, AIDS patients, and other common non-contagious illnesses. Shoot... I'll even give it to the folks who merely carry around Tylenol for their headaches and those who come prepared with Preparation H. It is WAY beside the point. Whatever issue one may have... does not mean that they shouldn't be able to enjoy a football game.

At the end of the day we all have options. You can always sit at home with your pallet of pads and your chest of OTC meds and enjoy the game or don't. It's a free country.

Keep telling yourself that, sheeple.

Speedy
07-26-2013, 09:11 PM
And the pointless part is the real troublemakers and terrorists will always find a way. Has the NFL never heard of the shoe bomber?

Great, now we're going to need clear, see-through shoes.

I agree that attending a game is becoming more and more of a hassle each season. First came the pat downs. Annoying at first but the fact that the pat downs were nothing more than let me run my hands parallel to your body without actually touching it was the biggest waste of time ever. These things did nothing but cause massive backups in line.

Then came the magic wand. Now you've got to take everything out of your pockets, get the wand waved at you, then jam everything back into your pockets and hope you don't drop something (which I've seen dozens of times). Well, guess what? I never take anything out of my pockets (car keys, radio, extra batteries for radio, cellphone, etc.) all in my pockets, they wave the wand - nothing. I walk right in no questions asked.

And now the no purse rule comes along. Though that doesn't effect me, I sympathized with females.

I've have never felt unsafe at a sporting event ever. I'm sure people said that about marathons before too, but this is just getting ridiculous. As someone metioned, it feels like you're entering a damn militarized zone now to attend a game. Sometimes I feel like I'm being treated like a damn criminal.

I'm not at the point of giving up my season tickets yet, but I can definitely see that day coming. They'll either price me out or hassle me out or both. Especially when I think of 12 years of season tickets now, I could have had a wall of HD 60 inchers.

NitroGSXR
07-26-2013, 09:13 PM
It isn't the Texans it's NFL. I understand you having different opinion and respect such. Personally I prefer to travel light which reduces hassle. Now if I want booze in my coke or lemonade, there will be. Have you ever been through a search at some concerts yet once the lights are down you pray/hope there's no random drug test the next day at work .

Absolutely understood, it's the NFL. I'm not referring to personal choice though. You should be able to go to the game in the fashion that you prefer. I don't carry stuff around myself. I'm the guy who hits the souvenir stands AFTER the game, I walk around malls to look before heading to the stores to make the purchases instead of carrying the stuff to every store, etc... but I can't see them trying to stop me from carrying in my baby's bottle to use a different example. The fact is... this isn't really good overall.

I don't go to concerts. It isn't really my kind of thing.

:shades:

PapaL
07-26-2013, 09:42 PM
One of the most useless things ever posted and you post a lot of useless stuff as is.



I'll be sure to pass along your message to cancer patients, AIDS patients, and other common non-contagious illnesses. Shoot... I'll even give it to the folks who merely carry around Tylenol for their headaches and those who come prepared with Preparation H. It is WAY beside the point. Whatever issue one may have... does not mean that they shouldn't be able to enjoy a football game.



Keep telling yourself that, sheeple.

Obviously you're use to people caving in and giving you your way. Keep crying. It won't help any. The safety of masses takes precedence. Don't like, don't go. Enjoy it home.

I'm sure that Tylenol and Preparation H will fit just fine in your fanny pack. Leave your duffel bag at home.

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2013, 10:46 PM
Inadvertently ignoring the specific needs of females at the games is just down right moronic, as it goes against all the time and efforts that the NFL has used to reel in and grow that segment of fandom..........utterly moronic.


From a Nov 2012 Forbes article:

The NFL is aware of a key component driving its business: Female fans. In recent years, the league has seen women grow to become over 44 percent of its fan base, with 60 percent of females over the age of 12 identifying themselves as NFL fans. Last season, 80 million women watched NFL games and roughly 310,000 women attended NFL games each weekend. Recognizing women’s interest in the NFL, the league has sought to find new ways to cultivate female fans’ passion for the game. One of the most significant things that the NFL has done recently to accomplish this, is overhauling its women’s apparel strategy.

In the last few years, the NFL has moved away from a “pink-it-and-shrink” it approach to women’s apparel to develop a women’s apparel line featuring items including Victoria’s Secret loungewear, Nike activewear and couture Marchesa tops. The items are largely made in team’s colors and made to fit women’s bodies. Along with clothing, the collection also includes watches, boots and accessories. In the evolution of its women’s apparel strategy, the NFL has sought to help women define themselves as fans while also providing them apparel options suiting their personalities better than pink, undersized men’s shirts.

In shifting gears in its women’s apparel approach, the NFL relied heavily upon its own research. “We looked at how the business was trending over the 7 to 8 years we had been in the business. We saw that with every move we made, the business would move. We knew there was a market for this,” said Rhiannon Madden, the NFL’s Director of Apparel. Along with Madden, the NFL’s research into the women’s apparel market was heavily driven by female NFL employees. Leading the helm of the NFL’s women’s apparel revolution were four women with a variety of backgrounds in fashion and business: Madden, NFL Vice President of Apparel Tracey Bleczinski, NFL Vice President of Retail Strategy Natara Holloway, and NFL Director of Consumer Products Johanna Paretzky. “Our department has quite a few women in it, who knew we would buy certain things as we were working on them. Luckily, we had a boss who believed in us and knew that he could put his trust in us,” said Madden.

The NFL’s research and subsequent approach have proven to be successful. Last year, the NFL brought in $3.2 billion from sales of its consumer products. While the league does not specify what percentage women’s apparel sales contributed to that amount, one can assume it was a significant portion given the efforts the NFL has taken to revamp its women’s apparel strategy. According to Bleczinski, the NFL has “. . . had women’s products for over a decade. As the business grew and we became more sophisticated with it and talked to our female fans and did research, we found that female fans don’t just want to wear pink. They want team colors and designs that fit them. As we started cater to our female fans from a licensing perspective, the business started taking off.”THE REST OF THE STORY (http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajessop/2012/11/26/how-new-marketing-approaches-helped-the-nfl-achieve-triple-digit-growth-in-womens-apparel-sales/)

disaacks3
07-26-2013, 11:01 PM
Obviously you're use to people caving in and giving you your way. Keep crying. It won't help any. The safety of masses takes precedence. Don't like, don't go. Enjoy it home.

I'm sure that Tylenol and Preparation H will fit just fine in your fanny pack. Leave your duffel bag at home. Yeah, right. You can show that searching a CLEAR bag is somehow safer than searching the opaque one? Are fans statistically safer in Green Bay? If not, why do only they get to carry in seat cushions?

This is far worse "Security Theater" than the TSA and that's saying a lot.

PapaL
07-26-2013, 11:03 PM
Yeah, right. You can show that searching a CLEAR bag is somehow safer than searching the opaque one? Are fans statistically safer in Green Bay? If not, why do only they get to carry in seat cushions?

This is far worse "Security Theater" than the TSA and that's saying a lot.

What are you talking about?!? I made no mention of clear or opaque anything. I was talking about giant ass bags vs whatever random size the NFL decided was safest for their venues.

infantrycak
07-26-2013, 11:23 PM
I was talking about giant ass bags vs whatever random size the NFL decided was safest for their venues.

Well then you need to be more clear and learn to frame a debate more accurately because what is involved here is a prohibition on anything over the size of a clutch purse unless it is clear. A clutch purse is one of those glorified billfolds women carry with them with evening gowns.

Oh and fanny packs haven't been in fashion since you were being potty trained.

PapaL
07-27-2013, 12:09 AM
Well then you need to be more clear and learn to frame a debate more accurately because what is involved here is a prohibition on anything over the size of a clutch purse unless it is clear. A clutch purse is one of those glorified billfolds women carry with them with evening gowns.

Oh and fanny packs haven't been in fashion since you were being potty trained.

Or maybe you should go back and read what I actually wrote and not infer other things.

The fanny pack was an inferred shot at the person I was quoting. Nitro got sand in his vagina and took a shot at me. Notice no one mentioned you in either post either?

How's that for clearly framed?

False Start
07-27-2013, 01:27 AM
Damn! Since I cant bring my bag to the game, this means no more super-bowl halftime show... http://www.fdrx7.com/forum/images/smilies/bong.gif

AggieTexan
07-27-2013, 08:08 AM
I don't know what kind of women you're use to traveling or enjoying activities with but all of the ones I hang out with have never brought along a Costco pallet of feminine napkins or products.

At the end of the day we all have options. You can always sit at home with your pallet of pads and your chest of OTC meds and enjoy the game or don't. It's a free country.

What are you talking about?!? I made no mention of clear or opaque anything. I was talking about giant ass bags vs whatever random size the NFL decided was safest for their venues.

Just to put size in perspective, here's a picture of my fairly small hand on top of an "illegal" purse. This handbag meets the height requirement, but it's about 1" too long. I hardly consider this a giant ass bag. It wouldn't fit a full sized pad, let alone a pallet of them!

http://aggietexan.smugmug.com/Other/Random/i-GKv4MDC/0/M/Illegal-Purse-M.jpg (http://aggietexan.smugmug.com/Other/Random/26083763_WfBWp5#!i=2659779345&k=GKv4MDC&lb=1&s=A)

NitroGSXR
07-27-2013, 09:23 AM
Or maybe you should go back and read what I actually wrote and not infer other things.

The fanny pack was an inferred shot at the person I was quoting. Nitro got sand in his vagina and took a shot at me. Notice no one mentioned you in either post either?

How's that for clearly framed?

I took a shot at you? Okayyyy. I'm going to scuttle over there on the other side. Football needs to get here quicker. It's just about the best medicine in our cabinets.

Just an FYI, a fanny pack is too big. It does not meet the new maximum size requirements. Hell... some WALLETS are too big. Get a clue instead of painting a broad brush and being a tasteless dude.

AggieTexan
07-27-2013, 03:03 PM
I got a response from the Texans in reference to the letter I sent about the bag policy. Season Ticket holders will be receiving 1 bag per account from the Texans. This is a quote from the letter:

"We will be mailing each season ticket holder account a clear tote bag. This approach will enhance safety inside and outside the stadium and speed the security screen process for all fans."

StarStruck
07-27-2013, 03:56 PM
I got a response from the Texans in reference to the letter I sent about the bag policy. Season Ticket holders will be receiving 1 bag per account from the Texans. This is a quote from the letter:

"We will be mailing each season ticket holder account a clear tote bag. This approach will enhance safety inside and outside the stadium and speed the security screen process for all fans."

I hope I didn't just find out what the annual gift thats being included this year. If do it could explain the late arrival of the tickets.

NitroGSXR
07-27-2013, 04:09 PM
I hope I didn't just find out what the annual gift thats being included this year. If do it could explain the late arrival of the tickets.

Don't worry. It's something else. Smile.

drs23
07-27-2013, 07:36 PM
Don't worry. It's something else. Smile.

So Mike, you already got the scoop?

I bet it's a Texans logoed bumper mount BBQ pit for tailgaiting. :kitten:

Am I right?


:D

NitroGSXR
07-27-2013, 07:40 PM
So Mike, you already got the scoop?

I bet it's a Texans logoed bumper mount BBQ pit for tailgaiting. :kitten:

Am I right?


:D

I have no comment. All I will say is that it was shown on the Texans website in the video where they delivered the season tickets to those really rich houses.

Double Barrel
07-29-2013, 03:40 PM
The safety of masses takes precedence.

If this the the priority, why stop with just bag requirements?

Why not full body scanners? Why not strip searches? Perhaps federal background checks on every individual attending a game?

You might say I'm going overboard. To which I would reply, the safety of masses takes precedence.

Some paying customers might not feel "saaaaaafe" until full body scanners, strip searches, armed DHS agents, background checks, and drones are flying over the stadium. Heck, let's add bomb sniffing dogs to the routine for every vehicle entering stadium grounds. Do you even realize how easy it would be to rig your car with explosives to murder a bunch of innocent tailgaters?!?

Holy cow, we could be attacked at every turn!!! :eek:

Remind me again of the incident in which an NFL game was attacked by terrorists? I seem to be missing that news story from my memory banks.

StarStruck
07-29-2013, 04:05 PM
Personally , I respect the opinions from both sides, but I don't have an issue simply because I prefer to travel light. Back when the Texans were really bad, I took a bag of paperwork to finish, but since then I haven't much need for extra stuff. Cowboys will take some adjustments because I took extra stuff to be prepared for autograph opportunities.

I learned a lot about the hassle free life during my previous employment after seeing managers traveling on international trips with a one carryon bag and using hotel cleaning services. Still not totally convinced I checked a bag for a two day trip to West Virginia and upon arriving to Columbus no bag. I found out there was a mixup and
my bag went to N Y and that persons bag was on Columbus. I ended up having to purchase clothing and necessities at Wheelings Walmart. My luggage arrived the morning I was leaving. That experience led me to rethink my travel preferences.

Texans_Chick
07-29-2013, 04:55 PM
I hope I didn't just find out what the annual gift thats being included this year. If do it could explain the late arrival of the tickets.

The clear bag is not the annual gift. I was told that the Texans would be sending out those bag to season ticket holders, but it did not come with my tickets.

It is a bag with a zipper and handles. Very orthopedic.

I suggest decorating it so it doesn't get confused with other people's bags.

2012Champs
07-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Just to put size in perspective, here's a picture of my fairly small hand on top of an "illegal" purse. This handbag meets the height requirement, but it's about 1" too long. I hardly consider this a giant ass bag. It wouldn't fit a full sized pad, let alone a pallet of them!

http://aggietexan.smugmug.com/Other/Random/i-GKv4MDC/0/M/Illegal-Purse-M.jpg (http://aggietexan.smugmug.com/Other/Random/26083763_WfBWp5#!i=2659779345&k=GKv4MDC&lb=1&s=A)


You couldn't fit a single pad in that purse?

infantrycak
07-29-2013, 05:31 PM
You couldn't fit a single pad in that purse?

You a pad expert now? She said she couldn't.

Speedy
07-29-2013, 05:39 PM
You a pad expert now? She said she couldn't.

LOL, or a flow expert?

PapaL
07-29-2013, 05:56 PM
If this the the priority, why stop with just bag requirements?

Why not full body scanners? Why not strip searches? Perhaps federal background checks on every individual attending a game?

You might say I'm going overboard. To which I would reply, the safety of masses takes precedence.

Some paying customers might not feel "saaaaaafe" until full body scanners, strip searches, armed DHS agents, background checks, and drones are flying over the stadium. Heck, let's add bomb sniffing dogs to the routine for every vehicle entering stadium grounds. Do you even realize how easy it would be to rig your car with explosives to murder a bunch of innocent tailgaters?!?

Holy cow, we could be attacked at every turn!!! :eek:

Remind me again of the incident in which an NFL game was attacked by terrorists? I seem to be missing that news story from my memory banks.


All it takes is ONE incident. You tell me which you prefer; an inconvenience that you can plan for and were notified MONTHS in advance or a bunch of blown up people?

You act like these things don't happen every day all over the world. May not happen here but Boston proves that it can and it more than likely will.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

infantrycak
07-29-2013, 06:11 PM
You act like these things don't happen every day all over the world. May not happen here but Boston proves that it can and it more than likely will.

List the terrorist attacks at major sporting events in the last year. I am being generous and not restricting to stadium events which would be analogous.

Double Barrel
07-29-2013, 06:12 PM
All it takes is ONE incident. You tell me which you prefer; an inconvenience that you can plan for and were notified MONTHS in advance or a bunch of blown up people?

You act like these things don't happen every day all over the world. May not happen here but Boston proves that it can and it more than likely will.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

It's all good, Papa. Not trying to start an argument with you. Mainly just taking the perspective to it's extreme slippery slope.

The problem with trying to implement an effective security policy for a 70,000 people event is that there are going to be limits to what authorities can do.

Give me a security program for 70,000 people, and I am sure there is a way to be found to exploit the program to attack. Short of extreme security measures that I mentioned above, there is no 100% effective way to secure every single event.

At some point, we just have to realize as citizens that every time we leave our houses to go to any event, there is a certain amount of 'risk' involved as it pertains to being exposed to potential threats.

I think this policy is knee jerk reaction stuff. It is designed to make folks feel better, sort of like the very lame patdowns at the games now. Very much reminds me of security gates at most apartment complexes. They do not really stop anyone with ill will, but they make folks feel better, and that is what the NFL is doing here, IMO.

Honoring Earl 34
07-29-2013, 06:30 PM
You a pad expert now? She said she couldn't.

LOL, or a flow expert?

You think they'll have vendors coming down the aisle selling Texan tampons or liberty white maxis ?

PapaL
07-29-2013, 06:35 PM
I'm not saying its perfect. Don't get me wrong. But something is better than nothing.

Hell remember flying 9/11? How bad was that crap? It's better now but it'll never be like it was. A couple months ago no one would've thought a backpack and a pressure cooker could cause that much damage.

The same people bitching about it now will be the same people crying and wondering why nothing was done when there is an incident.

My main point is that everyone has been told WELL in advance. Some folks act like just because they buy a ticket they're entitled to something more than a seat. If "you" don't like it, don't go. We all know damn well that seat will be resold in minutes.

PapaL
07-29-2013, 06:42 PM
List the terrorist attacks at major sporting events in the last year. I am being generous and not restricting to stadium events which would be analogous.

Tell me cak, what's your magic number? To me, one is too many.

I'm sure the 260+ victims of Boston would have loved to have had this bobo security measure in place.

infantrycak
07-29-2013, 06:54 PM
Tell me cak, what's your magic number? To me, one is too many.

I'm sure the 260+ victims of Boston would have loved to have had this bobo security measure in place.

Gee I don't know Papa. What's your limit for security? - a finger up the sphincter, someone exploring your wife and daughter's genitals and breasts, etc. Your rationale places no limit and Boston was an open environment not subject to ANY search so as I said not analogous. You could go to any building in Maryland and set off a more serious device easily.

Like DB I am not trying to fight with you overall but there has to be a discussion and a limit. Safety first is not the end of the discussion especially when the steps being implemented may do nothing for safety.

eriadoc
07-29-2013, 06:59 PM
But something is better than nothing.

That's the root of our problem in this country since 9/11 in a nutshell.

PapaL
07-29-2013, 07:10 PM
Gee I don't know Papa. What's your limit for security? - a finger up the sphincter, someone exploring your wife and daughter's genitals and breasts, etc. Your rationale places no limit and Boston was an open environment not subject to ANY search so as I said not analogous. You could go to any building in Maryland and set off a more serious device easily.

Like DB I am not trying to fight with you overall but there has to be a discussion and a limit. Safety first is not the end of the discussion especially when the steps being implemented may do nothing for safety.

Well I'm sure once one person blows up a whole bunch of people with their sphincter, breasts, and/or genitals we will revisit this conversation. In the mean time comparing the size of bag to those examples is extreme. Especially when you knew in advance and have options.

How much do you want to bet Boston marathon will never be open again...just like airport security.

There's a difference between a high value target and "any building". Last I checked there aren't 70,000 people at Home Depot.

When the last "incident" was backpack bomb you think omitting said bags from high value targets is worthless? Just like when you play a team that's soft against the run up the middle; keep doing it until they stop you.

Speedy
07-29-2013, 07:15 PM
There's a difference between a high value target and "any building". Last I checked there aren't 70,000 people at Home Depot.



So it's OK if just 20 people are shot at Home Depot.

EllisUnit
07-29-2013, 07:21 PM
Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/13/league-alters-bag-policy-for-safety-convenience/)

OK this ranks up there on the WTFometer. Seriously, women can't bring their ordinary purses? There hasn't been a single incident at an NFL stadium making this even paranoid reasonable.

Atleast this way u will know if its a womans time of the month and you can be sure to stay out of her way....Always gotta find the positive :tiphat:

infantrycak
07-29-2013, 07:21 PM
Just like when you play a team that's soft against the run up the middle; keep doing it until they stop you.

No like Sun Tzu you learn not to chase what the other guy is doing. This ain't football.

2012Champs
07-29-2013, 07:39 PM
You a pad expert now? She said she couldn't.


Expert? Far from it but pads are not that big and there would be no logical reason it would not fit in a bag the size of a human hand, even a small one.

PapaL
07-29-2013, 07:50 PM
No like Sun Tzu you learn not to chase what the other guy is doing. This ain't football.

And the battle is no longer being fought on one front vs one enemy. Sun Tzu was a mastermind in that case. Alas the battle front has changed.

“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”
― Mike Tyson

Are you going to keep getting punched in the face or are you going to stop it?

infantrycak
07-29-2013, 07:55 PM
And the battle is no longer being fought on one front vs one enemy. Sun Tzu was a mastermind in that case. Alas the battle front has changed.

“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”
― Mike Tyson

Are you going to keep getting punched in the face or are you going to stop it?

LOL, you just proved yourself massively ignorant and TKO'd yourself. Have a good day.

PapaL
07-29-2013, 08:01 PM
LOL, you just proved yourself massively ignorant and TKO'd yourself. Have a good day.

Yeah that's right. The Taliban is just lining up their army, waiting to fight us on on a ground no one can beat us at. Yeah, I'm the ignorant one.

mattieuk
07-29-2013, 08:10 PM
I'm not saying its perfect. Don't get me wrong. But something is better than nothing.

Hell remember flying 9/11? How bad was that crap? It's better now but it'll never be like it was. A couple months ago no one would've thought a backpack and a pressure cooker could cause that much damage.

The same people bitching about it now will be the same people crying and wondering why nothing was done when there is an incident.

My main point is that everyone has been told WELL in advance. Some folks act like just because they buy a ticket they're entitled to something more than a seat. If "you" don't like it, don't go. We all know damn well that seat will be resold in minutes.

I personally don't have an issue with them trying to protect people's security.

I do have an issue with them creating a 'security policy' that is in my opinion, an incredibly transparent cash grab.

If they were interested in security of the fans, they'd be implementing high tech x-ray machines like those seen at airports for your bags - not charging $10 for a bag which is going to be landfill fodder before the end of the season.

The NFL has created a security policy here that maximizes their profit margin, not one that keeps the fans safest.

infantrycak
07-29-2013, 08:14 PM
Yeah that's right. The Taliban is just lining up their army, waiting to fight us on on a ground no one can beat us at. Yeah, I'm the ignorant one.

Went straight over your head again. No your ignorance is in asserting Sun Tzu is about set piece battles. Good day.

Texecutioner
07-29-2013, 08:27 PM
With all of these terrorists and coward killers shooting places up and looking to hurt innocent people by the dozens, well I"m okay with this measure. Sure it sucks, and I don't like it, but it is something I am willing to live with considering what I could potentially be faced with by some nut job.

Speedy
07-29-2013, 08:49 PM
With all of these terrorists and coward killers shooting places up and looking to hurt innocent people by the dozens, well I"m okay with this measure. Sure it sucks, and I don't like it, but it is something I am willing to live with considering what I could potentially be faced with by some nut job.

Really? What about the mass of people at the gates getting in? Any nut job could go nuts there. Or the parking lots, or movie theater or crowded restaurant or Wal-Mart or the art car parade or the zoo and on and on and on.

Might as well lock ourselves up in our houses and never leave the way some are reacting here.

And again, if the measures the Texans were taking were indeed about safety, then maybe it wouldn't be all that bad. But as I pointed out earlier, the measures they've put in place up to this point have been a joke. And it still leaves the masses of people gathered at the gates and parking lots "unprotected". What about then? Any nut job could go nuts there as well.

You are not going to stop nut jobs from going nuts. It hasn't happened at a pro sporting event yet but in the world we live in it probably will someday. It never happened at a marathon before until it did. Never happened at a movie theater until it did. No one ever drove a plane into a skyscraper until they did....it's a ****ed up world with ****ed up people. And a tiny clear bag isn't going to stop those ****ed up people from doing ****ed up things.

Double Barrel
07-30-2013, 11:27 AM
If the NFL really cared about fan safety, they would surround each stadium with 3-4 of these:

http://www.armedforces-int.com/upload/image_files/corporate_policy/images/projects/44/rapier-system.jpg

Because it has happened before that someone crashed a small plane into a building:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/02/18/us/18cnd-planespan/18cnd-planespan-articleLarge.jpg
(IRS building, Austin, Tx, February 2010)

It would not take much. Just go to a local airport and learn how to take off.

Since the logic is that NFL security policy needs to change because of the Boston Marathon bombing, then the NFL needs to show that they are prepared for ALL potential terrorist attacks a by protecting stadiums full of thousands of fans.

Oh snap, just realized how expensive the above measures would be for the NFL and it's franchises, so nix that idea. Protecting fans is all and good as long as it doesn't cost too much.

:thinking:

infantrycak
07-30-2013, 11:42 AM
Since the logic is that NFL security policy needs to change because of the Boston Marathon bombing, then the NFL needs to show that they are prepared for ALL potential terrorist attacks a by protecting stadiums full of thousands of fans.

Oh snap, just realized how expensive the above measures would be for the NFL and it's franchises, so nix that idea. Protecting fans is all and good as long as it doesn't cost too much.

There are all sorts of free measures they can use to protect us. For instance once you leave the parking lots (because your safety is apparently not important there) you must remove your shoes and underwear.

Hey it's cool. After all you have been told in advance and that makes everything OK.

PS - what is up with the bizarro world of the parking lots. They let you in specifically for the purpose of getting too drunk to drive and then have police help guide your drunk butt out - please throw away that 20th beer now the public roads are right over here. There is zero security. You could drive a truck full of semtex and ball bearings in without a 2nd glance and now women can't carry anything close to an ordinary sized handbag into the stadium.

CloakNNNdagger
07-30-2013, 01:35 PM
C-4 plastic explosive can be easily molded in creative unrecognizable forms and or hidden in many ways. If a group of group of persons got together, with each bringing smaller pieces of the substance along with separate components of a detonator, the components could be assembled once inside the stadium. Massive damage, morbidities and casualties could affected at any stadium. This new policy would not preclude the possibility of such a potentially devastating event.

AggieTexan
07-30-2013, 01:58 PM
*The Texans were handing out Ziplock bags as people came into the parking lot this morning. Inside each was a flyer explaining the policy, but nothing was said by the parking lot attendants.

*Many people didn't know what the bag was for and didn't look at what was inside.

*There were lots of people in line carrying big bags. They weren't turned back until they got to the front of the line.

*Full bag check and wanding to get into training camp.

*No clear bags yet at the Go Texans Store. The people in there weren't aware that the Texans are going to distribute bags to season ticket holders.

rush2112mn
07-30-2013, 03:22 PM
I found a website that has clear bags that are nfl stadium requirements.......www.clear-handbags.com 13 different types of bags that will pass the requirements......just thought I would pass that along.....

Texans will not have a handbag for sale until Sep sometime.....at their texan store.....
Nfl.com has other teams for sale ...but no texans bag.....wtf?

disaacks3
07-30-2013, 03:43 PM
I'm not saying its perfect. Don't get me wrong. But something is better than nothing. We ALREADY had "better than nothing". We didn't always have the cursory pat-downs, but bags were...wait for it...already opened up and looked in.

What's the "new" policy? They still look in bags, except when they don't.

Here's a "real life" example for you:

I went to TC on Monday before work.

Knowing in advance that they were going to make a token attempt to enforce the new bag policy, I took a one-gallon Ziploc with a jersey and other items in it.

As the jersey fits only with careful folding, it essentially made the "clear walls" of the bag pointless. All you could see was jersey.

Did they "search" this bag?

Nope. They passed a wand over it and sent me on my way.

That's actually LESS safe than searching my old, larger opaque bag.

Blake
07-31-2013, 07:49 PM
Poor women. They went after your uterus, and now your purses! Damn tha man!

Double Barrel
08-02-2013, 10:48 AM
F.B.I. Said to Find It Could Not Have Averted Boston Attack

The F.B.I. has concluded that there was little its agents could have done to prevent the Boston Marathon bombings, according to law enforcement officials, rejecting criticism that it could have better monitored one of the suspects before the attack.

Full article (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/02/us/fbi-said-to-conclude-it-could-not-have-averted-boston-attack.html?_r=0)

So the NFL knee-jerks to a terrorist attack that the nation's greatest law enforcement agency admits it could not have prevented.

hmmmm.... :thinking: apartment gates!

CloakNNNdagger
08-08-2013, 09:24 PM
One of the biggest issues is for those fans that have babies and want to bring in a diaper bag for game day.

“We’re actually sending to all season-ticket holders one of these bags, the 12-by-12-by-six bag, so hopefully they can use that for their diaper bags on game day,” he said. “It’s a decent sized bag. You can fit quite a bit in it.”

He said that there will be a limit of one bag per person who enters the stadium. If you are part of a party of four, you can bring in four bags.

link (http://www.khou.com/sports/Texans-official-answers-questions-on-bag-policy-218922341.html)

Diaper bags typically are much larger. And then what do you do with the rest of your "stuff" if you've used up all of your room with baby supplies???:kubepalm:

eriadoc
08-09-2013, 08:02 AM
The message is clear - NFL stadiums are no place for women. Or babies. Or people with medical supplies. Or anyone with self respect and values they stand for.

This year's opener will probably be the last game I attend. As long as y'all keep going, I can watch it on TV though, so disregard any salient points that were made in this thread. :)

robroy72
08-09-2013, 08:16 AM
link (http://www.khou.com/sports/Texans-official-answers-questions-on-bag-policy-218922341.html)

Diaper bags typically are much larger. And then what do you do with the rest of your "stuff" if you've used up all of your room with baby supplies???:kubepalm:

Well... the baby is a person ... does it get a bag?

CloakNNNdagger
08-09-2013, 10:17 AM
Well... the baby is a person ... does it get a bag?

That's a good question. So I contacted the Texans........they related to me that the baby is counted as a person when allotting bag count............................................. ..........................................and (after I asked) that size of the the baby's hand will not act as the criteria for the size of a clutch purse the baby can carry in.:kubepalm::wadepalm:

texanmojo
08-09-2013, 08:25 PM
I received a clear NFL bag in the mail today...no charge from the Texans.

SheTexan
08-10-2013, 09:37 AM
I had decided to stay out of this discussion, BUT, it's football season and I AM a woman, so here's my opinion, for what it's worth!

I understand the ban, and support it completely! Here's why. We're talking about approx FOUR hours out of a game day that a person will be without all the STUFF they think they can't live without. That's not a very long time, and where there's a will there's a way. I can shove everything I need into my pockets, or into a clear bag. IF a baby needs more than a couple diapers, or one bottle of milk during that four hours then maybe that baby needs to be under a Doc's care or home with a babysitter, not at a football game!! Pads and tampons are EASY to hide, and again, if you need to use more that 2 during a four hr time frame then you might want to consider seeing a GYN! For old timers like me, I will take my meds BEFORE I go to the game or put them in one of those cute little containers they have for medications these days. You don't have to take the entire, huge bottle of pills to a game!! I just think fans are making more out of this than they need to.. All ya gotta do is plan for the time you're inside the stadium, not the entire time you are on the premises. Safety should always come first! JMO!

GlassHalfFull
08-10-2013, 10:36 AM
Think I can get a Texan's logo on one of these? I plan on loading up my clear plastic bag with all sorts of fun items.

http://spencersonline.com/images/spencers/products/interactivezoom/processed/00029959.interactive.a.jpg

eriadoc
08-10-2013, 10:48 AM
Safety should always come first! JMO!

Even if we completely agree with that statement, this measure does nothing to actually enhance safety.

CloakNNNdagger
08-10-2013, 11:07 AM
Think I can get a Texan's logo on one of these? I plan on loading up my clear plastic bag with all sorts of fun items.

http://spencersonline.com/images/spencers/products/interactivezoom/processed/00029959.interactive.a.jpg

Lipstick?????????..........Oops, just touched.........and it started making funny vibrating noises........:thinking:

Speedy
08-10-2013, 11:36 AM
I just think fans are making more out of this than they need to..

Though I don't disagree with most of what you say, I think the NFL is making more out of it than they need to.

SheTexan
08-10-2013, 03:37 PM
Though I don't disagree with most of what you say, I think the NFL is making more out of it than they need to.

I agree with you Speedy! The NFL is slowly ruining game day experience for everyone. Players can't celebrate, fans can't bring in noise makers, (still miss my cowbell,) and the cost of going to the game can equal a car note. I truly believe there is NO way to prevent a major terrorist attack if some group really wants to pull it off. But, if this new rule makes just one of them think twice then it will be worth it. I understand all the opinions, pro and con, but, for me personally, I refuse to allow this rule to ruin my day. I'll just stick my tube of carmax, glasses, phone, and a few bucks in my pocket and head on in to the stadium to support my team. They OWN me for the three hours they're on that football field! I'll comb my hair and put on makeup when I get back to the tailgate!:)

CloakNNNdagger
08-10-2013, 06:47 PM
I agree with you Speedy! The NFL is slowly ruining game day experience for everyone. Players can't celebrate, fans can't bring in noise makers, (still miss my cowbell,) and the cost of going to the game can equal a car note. I truly believe there is NO way to prevent a major terrorist attack if some group really wants to pull it off. But, if this new rule makes just one of them think twice then it will be worth it. I understand all the opinions, pro and con, but, for me personally, I refuse to allow this rule to ruin my day. I'll just stick my tube of carmax, glasses, phone, and a few bucks in my pocket and head on in to the stadium to support my team. They OWN me for the three hours they're on that football field! I'll comb my hair and put on makeup when I get back to the tailgate!:)

I did some digging and couldn't find any provisions for not being able to wear cargo pants or cargo shorts (multiple large front and back compartments). Looks like no-one's thought of that yet. Could solve a good many problems for many fans, especially the females.:texflag:

http://www.naturalbabygoods.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/49022_big.v1299409261.jpg

http://everydaychildhood.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cargo-shorts1.jpg

http://www.fashionbelief.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Best-Cargo-Shorts-For-Men-550x550.jpg

SheTexan
08-11-2013, 08:08 PM
I think we'll be seeing a lot of those my friend!!

DoCRoN
08-12-2013, 02:47 PM
I don't have a strong opinion on this, we'll make it work whatever the rule, but I will summarize how my wife feels:

We've got a 2 year old and 5 year old. The oldest has been to every game (apart from pre-season) since she was 8 weeks old. The youngest has done the same, as well as the game at Denver last year. We bought our 4 PSLs before we had any kids, with the dream of having 2 kids and going to Texans games as an awesome family tradition.

Who does this rule really impact the most? Families such as ours. Diapers, wipes, and bottles... sure, those are what kids "essentially" need. However, realistically, it's so much more than that...

Potty accidents are very likely, which means a change of clothes for each. How about my boy, who's learning to eat and fighting through some gag reflex problems? He's got a menu of about 4 or 5 food items that he'll stomach, that's it. Reliant doesn't sell those, so I need to pack a few of those things. Maybe that's "medical exemption" worthy, but what does that require... a doctor's note? That's not something we would normally carry with us...

Is it realistic to think my kids will be watching the game for 3 hours? Nope.... a book here, an ipod there, maybe a few toys... And how about walking from the yellow lot? My oldest rides on my shoulders, I'm sure the youngest will this year too (mine or the wife's). It's much more feasible for me to strap on a backpack than to try and carry a 12x12x6 handbag.

I'm sure there are plenty of other things I'm forgetting. I'm a guy. I'm expressing some of what the wife mentioned (what I can remember).

I know this isn't the "typical" experience for most fans. Some of you, hell many of you may feel, "pssshh, leave the kids at home". I'll bet 8 years ago I woulda said the same thing.

The thing is, me and the wife love football and we love the Texans. Ever since the Oilers left, and I went out of state for school and eventually work, I told myself...if I ever find myself back in the Houston area, I'm getting season tickets to the Texans and I'm going to every damn game. Life changes be damned, we (as a family) are going to every damn game.

If that means doing something as absurd as bringing an iPod so that my 2-year-old can watch flippin' Caillou for 30 minutes to keep him happy... that's what we do. It's like a mini version of a home play area in our 4 seats. We try to minimize fan interference around us. It's an exhausting 8 or 9 outings a year (we tailgate before and after as well), different than most other fans' experience.

To wrap this up, what we do is crazy to many (often myself included). And I understand we are probably in the vast minority, and rules aren't made for the vast minority. Will we make this new rule work? Sure, we'll adapt. But it just seems like an unnecessary step for families with children, who often have to (choose to?) haul around a bunch of crap everywhere they go. Exempt medical. Exempt families with small children. (If there's another obvious special-needs group I'm missing, exempt them too.) Give us a special line that takes much longer to go through, if needed. Don't make doing something we love more of a challenge than it needs to be.

SheTexan
08-12-2013, 07:40 PM
Got the plastic bag in the mail today and it's larger than the purse I usually carry in. More than enough room for any lady needs!

One positive thing for sure is that if some yoyo spills beer on it it'll be easy to clean up.

TEXANRED
08-12-2013, 07:51 PM
Without bags I predict the Jags will see a lull in attendance.

StarStruck
08-12-2013, 08:43 PM
Got the plastic bag in the mail today and it's larger than the purse I usually carry in. More than enough room for any lady needs!

One positive thing for sure is that if some yoyo spills beer on it it'll be easy to clean up.

I received the bag today as well. I don't know why, but I was expecting a Texans logo.

Oh yes! Nothing like someone behind you instead of placing unfinished beer in the cup holder setting it on the floor then turning the bottle over. I don't want the stuff spilling on my shoe, and definitely not my PURSE.

My worst experience in my regular seat was a couple of drunk Titans fans were sitting in the seats behind me. Nothing critical about the Titans, but just an observation for that game. The worst experience ever was visiting a relative on the visitors side near the 25 yd. line and fairly close to the field. That place was worse than a pig sty. I was glad to return to my regular seat.

SheTexan
08-12-2013, 09:14 PM
I received the bag today as well. I don't know why, but I was expecting a Texans logo.

Oh yes! Nothing like someone behind you instead of placing unfinished beer in the cup holder setting it on the floor then turning the bottle over. I don't want the stuff spilling on my shoe, and definitely not my PURSE.

My worst experience in my regular seat was a couple of drunk Titans fans were sitting in the seats behind me. Nothing critical about the Titans, but just an observation for that game. The worst experience ever was visiting a relative on the visitors side near the 25 yd. line and fairly close to the field. That place was worse than a pig sty. I was glad to return to my regular seat.

Well, I sit/stand in the Bullpen, so, there's plenty of beer flowing EVERYWHERE!:drunk: Spills are common, and I learned early on not to put my bag on the floor. Actually, this plastic one will be just fine under my seat, IF I decide to use it. Not really sure yet.

Double Barrel
08-16-2013, 09:52 AM
Breast implants suicide bomb threat

“There are genuine fears over this.

"We have been told to pay particular attention to females who may have concealed hidden explosives in their breasts.

“This is particularly difficult for us to pick up but we are on a very high state of alert.

---------------

Al-Qaeda’s chief bomb-maker Ibrahim al-Asiri is understood to have developed the method of foiling airport scanners by concealing *explosives in an implant or bodily cavity.

It is also feared there is no shortage of *volunteers willing to take part in an atrocity after hundreds of extremists recently escaped from prison in Pakistan.

Explosives expert Andy Oppenheimer said: “There is a great fear that al-Qaeda are planning on using internal devices to try and get through airport scanners.

"These explosives could be in breast implants.”

Source (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breast-implants-suicide-bomb-threat-2172911)

So I have to wonder what policy the NFL will implement to deal with this particular potential terrorist threat. :thinking:

Texan_Bill
08-16-2013, 10:35 AM
So I have to wonder what policy the NFL will implement to deal with this particular potential terrorist threat. :thinking:

I will volunteer my time and efforts into inspecting said threats! :kitten:

Double Barrel
08-16-2013, 10:40 AM
I will volunteer my time and efforts into inspecting said threats! :kitten:

:D I know you're the man for the job!

PapaL
08-16-2013, 10:55 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/17/ypy6e5us.jpg

2012Champs
08-17-2013, 08:59 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/17/ypy6e5us.jpg



I wonder if the ladies will be able to fit a pad in that bag since some couldn't manage to do so in a bag the size of your hand

infantrycak
08-17-2013, 09:43 AM
I wonder if the ladies will be able to fit a pad in that bag since some couldn't manage to do so in a bag the size of your hand

You missed the point on that which was they didn't want the world staring at their feminine products. Of course pads fit in the clear bags.

2012Champs
08-17-2013, 10:36 AM
You missed the point on that which was they didn't want the world staring at their feminine products. Of course pads fit in the clear bags.



Maybe you should review post 76, my reply and your silly ass response to my post as it has zero to do with what you are stating now. Also people need to grow up. I'm pretty sure the world wouldn't be staring at your pad or tampon and even if they did who gives a ****?

infantrycak
08-17-2013, 10:53 AM
Maybe you should review post 76, my reply and your silly ass response to my post as it has zero to do with what you are stating now. Also people need to grow up. I'm pretty sure the world wouldn't be staring at your pad or tampon and even if they did who gives a ****?

#1) Not going to go back and retrace every single conversation to try to limit it to what you think it was about. Being visible has clearly been an issue raised in this thread. Size and sight are related because the only hidden from view option is the small bag.

#2) Nobody, particularly women give a flying squirrel whether you mind having your feminine products on display.

#3) There was no hostility in my post. Who rubbed sand in your vagina?

#4) Now pull your tampon out and grow up.

CloakNNNdagger
08-17-2013, 11:15 AM
Wonder how the league would respond if fans simply lined their clear bags.

Playoffs
08-17-2013, 11:50 AM
Clear is the new black.

2012Champs
08-17-2013, 12:01 PM
#1) Not going to go back and retrace every single conversation to try to limit it to what you think it was about. Being visible has clearly been an issue raised in this thread. Size and sight are related because the only hidden from view option is the small bag.

#2) Nobody, particularly women give a flying squirrel whether you mind having your feminine products on display.

#3) There was no hostility in my post. Who rubbed sand in your vagina?

#4) Now pull your tampon out and grow up.


It was your assumption that prompted my response. You failed to follow my point rather than me not following. Carrying fem products is something that nearly half the population does I'm not sure why anyone would care if anyone saw it. Take your valtrex before you leave the house so people don't see that in your purse, that I could understand

Texans_Chick
08-17-2013, 12:52 PM
I had decided to stay out of this discussion, BUT, it's football season and I AM a woman, so here's my opinion, for what it's worth!

I understand the ban, and support it completely! Here's why. We're talking about approx FOUR hours out of a game day that a person will be without all the STUFF they think they can't live without. That's not a very long time, and where there's a will there's a way. I can shove everything I need into my pockets, or into a clear bag. IF a baby needs more than a couple diapers, or one bottle of milk during that four hours then maybe that baby needs to be under a Doc's care or home with a babysitter, not at a football game!! Pads and tampons are EASY to hide, and again, if you need to use more that 2 during a four hr time frame then you might want to consider seeing a GYN! For old timers like me, I will take my meds BEFORE I go to the game or put them in one of those cute little containers they have for medications these days. You don't have to take the entire, huge bottle of pills to a game!! I just think fans are making more out of this than they need to.. All ya gotta do is plan for the time you're inside the stadium, not the entire time you are on the premises. Safety should always come first! JMO!

It is fake safety.

Look at the pictures of the stuffed plastic bag. They still have to inspect it.

The bag doesn't have a shoulder strap. Which would be all sorts of handy if you are dealing with kids or at a tailgate and want to use two hands.

And shoulder straps on clutches are tiny. My pockets are typically too small for stuff. And the plastic bag has no shoulder straps. One way I figure out what purse to get is whether somebody could easily snatch it if I was in a public place.

This policy makes me feel LESS SAFE. I either have bare minimum stuff with me in a clutch with a small shoulder strap or all my valuables on display in a plastic bag that is so rickety it will likely fall apart in a couple of games.

And it isn't just 4 hours.

When we were at the Ravens game, I packed my purse full of cold weather gear. We left our hotel super early in the morning. Walked over a mile to a bar, tailgate then stadium. In some sketchy parts of Baltimore without any security. Then we walked back to the hotel after the game.

In the fourth quarter when the sun went down, I was able to grab my extra cold weather gear. And that game wasn't even the coldest the league sees. Or rainy.

If I'm tailgating without my own car about, I have to hold my stuff with one hand because no shoulder strap. And hold a blanket? (I packed mine tight in my purse last time).

This is a stupid policy that makes exactly no one safer and makes me feel less safe with greater inconveniences. Security theater.

Hopefully it doesn't catch on. They never roll back stupid fake security measures.

Fred
08-17-2013, 03:32 PM
It is fake safety.

This is a stupid policy that makes exactly no one safer and makes me feel less safe with greater inconveniences. Security theater.

Hopefully it doesn't catch on. They never roll back stupid fake security measures.

Repped for the entire post but just wanted to emphasize the bolded. Earlier this year they were going to allow us to take nail clipper and tiny knives on airplanes, but people complained of all the bloodshed to come and they cancel the common sense change. (Almost every else in the world you can carry these items on planes and they have no problems).

The real motives for the NFL's policy are: 1. Catch people trying to sneak in beverages or snacks, and 2. The NFL Security braintrust can say "Hey lookie! We done done some'in'!" Unfortunately next year they will want to done some'in' new.

CloakNNNdagger
08-17-2013, 04:51 PM
It is fake safety.

Look at the pictures of the stuffed plastic bag. They still have to inspect it.

The bag doesn't have a shoulder strap. Which would be all sorts of handy if you are dealing with kids or at a tailgate and want to use two hands.

And shoulder straps on clutches are tiny. My pockets are typically too small for stuff. And the plastic bag has no shoulder straps. One way I figure out what purse to get is whether somebody could easily snatch it if I was in a public place.

This policy makes me feel LESS SAFE. I either have bare minimum stuff with me in a clutch with a small shoulder strap or all my valuables on display in a plastic bag that is so rickety it will likely fall apart in a couple of games.



And it isn't just 4 hours.

When we were at the Ravens game, I packed my purse full of cold weather gear. We left our hotel super early in the morning. Walked over a mile to a bar, tailgate then stadium. In some sketchy parts of Baltimore without any security. Then we walked back to the hotel after the game.

In the fourth quarter when the sun went down, I was able to grab my extra cold weather gear. And that game wasn't even the coldest the league sees. Or rainy.

If I'm tailgating without my own car about, I have to hold my stuff with one hand because no shoulder strap. And hold a blanket? (I packed mine tight in my purse last time).

This is a stupid policy that makes exactly no one safer and makes me feel less safe with greater inconveniences. Security theater.

Hopefully it doesn't catch on. They never roll back stupid fake security measures.

I agree with all you've said. But there are "official" NFL clear bags that have handles, strings and shoulder straps..........that will make your life so much easier. :kitten: And you can use them to strangle visiting fans.........if you aren't already wearing a "waist weapon" (belt). :shades:

http://www.fanatics.com/NFL_Houston_Texans_Accessories

Speedy
08-18-2013, 09:40 AM
It's about safety? The line I was in yesterday didn't even have anyone waving the wand on us. Walked right on in like it was the old days before all the stupid "security" bullshit.

silvrhand
08-19-2013, 12:33 AM
I agree with all you've said. But there are "official" NFL clear bags that have handles, strings and shoulder straps..........that will make your life so much easier. :kitten: And you can use them to strangle visiting fans.........if you aren't already wearing a "waist weapon" (belt). :shades:

http://www.fanatics.com/NFL_Houston_Texans_Accessories

My problem with this is the profit the NFL is making on the items they are selling. Sell them at cost if their main goal is to simply provide better security, don't make a profit!!!

The NFL gets a lot of scope with the exception from the anti-trust laws that exist in the US. If the NFL continues to move broadcasting to paid channels, and continues to force more money out of us, then someone needs to repeal the act below..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Broadcasting_Act_of_1961

steelbtexan
08-19-2013, 08:09 AM
My problem with this is the profit the NFL is making on the items they are selling. Sell them at cost if their main goal is to simply provide better security, don't make a profit!!!

The NFL gets a lot of scope with the exception from the anti-trust laws that exist in the US. If the NFL continues to move broadcasting to paid channels, and continues to force more money out of us, then someone needs to repeal the act below..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Broadcasting_Act_of_1961

God'ell is screwing the fans over again. (Shocker)

I'm not a big govt guy, but it's time for them to look at the anti trust for not only the NFL but other industries as well.

txchick1971
08-19-2013, 10:19 AM
For the ladies...I found this purse at the central marken on harwin over the weekend for $25 bucks. Just sharing.



http://clear-handbags.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_4_34.JPG

gwallaia
08-20-2013, 05:27 PM
I carried my binoculars in my clear man purse to the game Saturday. It was totally gay, my clear man purse will now stay at home.