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IDEXAN
05-27-2013, 04:09 PM
NFL MVP Adrian Peterson says he has family members who are gay whom he loves and respects. But on gay marriage, the Minnesota Vikings running back says "that's not something I believe in."
Peterson made his comments last week in an interview with with Sirius/XM NFL Radio. He was asked his thoughts on the Vikings cutting longtime punter Chris Kluwe, an outspoken advocate for gay rights and gay marriage.

"It hurt me to see him leave," Peterson said.

Peterson says he considers Kluwe a good friend but he differs with the punter on the subject for gay marriage.

"To each his own, [but] I'm not with it," he said. "I have relatives who are gay. I'm not biased towards them. I still treat them the same. I love 'em. But again, I'm not with that. That's not something I believe in. But to each his own," he said.

The running back said he didn't believe the Vikings released Kluwe, who has since signed with the Oakland Raiders, because of his outspoken nature.

"I'm sure the Vikings organization didn't release him based on that," he said. "They know Kluwe. They've been knowing him for a long time. They know he's outspoken."

Gay marriage will become legal in Minnesota on Aug. 1.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9315572/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-says-gay-marriage
******* the state
Wonder if this is gonna be a controversy, especially with the state AD plays in becoming legal for gay marriage in just a couple months and before the current season begins ? AD is one of the biggest stars in the NFL, could get interesting ?

Rey
05-27-2013, 04:16 PM
Why would it be controversial? He didn't say anything wrong. He doesn't agree with the behavior from a personal stand point, but he's not trying to stop then from being them either.

Nothing wrong with his viewpoint.

IDEXAN
05-27-2013, 04:26 PM
Why would it be controversial? He didn't say anything wrong. He doesn't agree with the behavior from a personal stand point, but he's not trying to stop then from being them either.

Nothing wrong with his viewpoint.
Totally agree with you, but my question is will it be acceptable to the PC crowd ?

The Pencil Neck
05-27-2013, 04:46 PM
Totally agree with you, but my question is will it be acceptable to the PC crowd ?

I'm for gay marriage. I don't consider that politically correct, I consider it morally and ethically correct.

I don't care if somebody has a different opinion. Doesn't bother me if Adrian Peterson doesn't agree with it. He stated his opinion in a decent and good way.

What I DON'T agree with are people who state that same opinion in a homophobic or violent way.

infantrycak
05-27-2013, 05:07 PM
******* the state
Wonder if this is gonna be a controversy, especially with the state AD plays in becoming legal for gay marriage in just a couple months and before the current season begins ? AD is one of the biggest stars in the NFL, could get interesting ?

Do you get up each morning and google to try to find some stories on gays in the military or sports you can try to pound?

Anyway, as others have already pointed out he said nothing about rejecting anyone so total non-story.

How about you wait until AP says he won't share a locker room with someone he knows to be gay instead of doing your own soliloquy bombardment of anti-gay, anti-PC posts. It's tired.

Rey
05-27-2013, 05:44 PM
Totally agree with you, but my question is will it be acceptable to the PC crowd ?

There's always going to be someone that gets upset over something. I try to spend as little time as I can worrying about who'll get upset over which issue.

So yeah, of course someone will not like his perspective. You know that. But until one of those people show up we can't give them the fifth degree wondering why :)

rmartin65
05-27-2013, 05:47 PM
I'm for gay marriage. I don't consider that politically correct, I consider it morally and ethically correct.

I don't care if somebody has a different opinion. Doesn't bother me if Adrian Peterson doesn't agree with it. He stated his opinion in a decent and good way.

What I DON'T agree with are people who state that same opinion in a homophobic or violent way.

I can't think of a better way to say it. Well done, TPN.

IDEXAN
05-27-2013, 06:44 PM
Do you get up each morning and google to try to find some stories on gays in the military or sports you can try to pound?

Anyway, as others have already pointed out he said nothing about rejecting anyone so total non-story.

How about you wait until AP says he won't share a locker room with someone he knows to be gay instead of doing your own soliloquy bombardment of anti-gay, anti-PC posts. It's tired.
If the story was big enough to be a lead on ESPNs main website page, then it seemed worthy of getting some mention on the Texans website NFL-area sub-section. Just trying to do my own small part in my own modest way to keep the masses informed.

Lucky
05-27-2013, 07:57 PM
Not being able to see the actual question and Peterson's response, it's unclear if Peterson is anti-gay marriage or if he's just not "down with" being gay. Plenty of people do not necessarily understand homosexual behavior. I can't say I understand it, because I don't have those desires or feelings. But, I can accept that others do. And they should have the same rights I have, in regards to whom they choose to marry.

Not being able to hear how the question was framed, or if he understood the question, I'm not sure if Peterson doesn't feel the same.

mattieuk
05-27-2013, 08:21 PM
I'm for gay marriage. I don't consider that politically correct, I consider it morally and ethically correct.

I don't care if somebody has a different opinion. Doesn't bother me if Adrian Peterson doesn't agree with it. He stated his opinion in a decent and good way.

What I DON'T agree with are people who state that same opinion in a homophobic or violent way.

It's really hard for a thread to continue when someone sums up the issue so eloquently.

:bravo:

IDEXAN
05-27-2013, 09:45 PM
I think ADs comments are newsworthy mostly because it's not about his attitude towards homosexuality where he's clearly expressed an attitude of tolerance even though he says he himself is "not with it", but it's that he is not supportive or tolerant of gay marriage and that almost surely is the attitude of the vast majority of the NFL rank-and-file membership. Now that's significant because he's one of the most popular and highly regarded players among his peers in the entire NFL. We've still got a PR war going on over the gay marriage issue, and right now the Supreme Court is also in final deliberations about their decision re the constitutionality of gay marriage. I'm thinking they are due with a decision in the coming weeks ?

PapaL
05-27-2013, 09:52 PM
Like he said, to each their own. He's obviously not homophobic, just doesn't believe in gay marriage. To each their own. Hell I'm antimarriage in general but if gays and lesbians want to be equally as unhappy married, more power to them. Not like we have a great marriage track record.

Wolf
05-27-2013, 09:52 PM
Way I look at gay marriage. I don't understand it. It isn't what my thing. However it affects me none. Two guys get a bond..fine..two girls stike a bond Well what else is new. I just have an easier explanation on why she wasn't in to me
:p

Corrosion
05-27-2013, 11:14 PM
Why would it be controversial? He didn't say anything wrong. He doesn't agree with the behavior from a personal stand point, but he's not trying to stop then from being them either.

Nothing wrong with his viewpoint.

Agree'd 100%.

Kinda the way I feel about drugs ..... I don't use them but I think you should be free to make that choice.

b0ng
05-27-2013, 11:14 PM
I think ADs comments are newsworthy mostly because it's not about his attitude towards homosexuality where he's clearly expressed an attitude of tolerance even though he says he himself is "not with it", but it's that he is not supportive or tolerant of gay marriage and that almost surely is the attitude of the vast majority of the NFL rank-and-file membership. Now that's significant because he's one of the most popular and highly regarded players among his peers in the entire NFL. We've still got a PR war going on over the gay marriage issue, and right now the Supreme Court is also in final deliberations about their decision re the constitutionality of gay marriage. I'm thinking they are due with a decision in the coming weeks ?

He's not threatening to hold out from the Vikings until Minnesota overturns gay marriage so I don't really see why somebody would see why this is some big story.

Also I find it interesting how you can tell who supports gay rights and who doesn't by the language they use. Somebody using the words homosexuals or gays is almost always speaking negatively about the issue and is trying to otherize gay people. Usually they tend to shy away from calling them people in general.

Shaft75
05-27-2013, 11:29 PM
An orange peanut?

You got an orange peanut... For me?

Well, orange peanut, I accept you.

PapaL
05-27-2013, 11:37 PM
Also I find it interesting how you can tell who supports gay rights and who doesn't by the language they use. Somebody using the words homosexuals or gays is almost always speaking negatively about the issue and is trying to otherize gay people. Usually they tend to shy away from calling them people in general.

This is based on what exactly?

TheMatrix31
05-28-2013, 12:01 AM
Adrian Peterson once compared NFL players to slaves during the lockout, so his opinion on literally everything should be rendered completely irrelevant.

ArlingtonTexan
05-28-2013, 12:10 AM
I have no idea why any one cares what ADP thiinks about gay marriage.

revan
05-28-2013, 12:49 AM
Pretty much sums up my opinion on this matter, but I'd rather focus on football.

Texaninlild
05-28-2013, 02:54 AM
He has an opinion, which I share. Good for him to speak his mind in the face of 'media over-hyped' backlash. Apparently not hopping on the gay-bandwagon is frowned upon by today's society. I do not care about your sexual orientation, but do not throw it in my face and expect me to applaud you!

IDEXAN
05-28-2013, 07:03 AM
He has an opinion, which I share. Good for him to speak his mind in the face of 'media over-hyped' backlash. Apparently not hopping on the gay-bandwagon is frowned upon by today's society. I do not care about your sexual orientation, but do not throw it in my face and expect me to applaud you!
Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, considered to be the pivotal vote on the issue, said the court was in “uncharted waters.” He questioned whether it should have even accepted the case, in which lower courts struck down California’s voter-approved Proposition 8, which restricted marriage to heterosexual couples.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-26/politics/38020525_1_gay-couples-marriage-case-marriage-act
Even Justice Sonia Sotomayor, whose questioning indicated that she was skeptical of the reasons proffered for why gay couples should not be allowed to marry, seemed to think that it might not be time for the court to make a bold decision.
“If the issue is letting the states experiment and letting the society have more time to figure out its direction, why is taking a case now the answer?” she asked.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-26/politics/38020525_1_gay-couples-marriage-case-marriage-act
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Texaninlild, you and AD have questions, reservations about gay marriage. Well you clearly aren't alone, because these 2 members of the Supreme Court including the all-important swing-vote Anthony M. Kennedy and even Obama appointee Sonia Sotomayor aren't necessarily buying into the proposition of
gay-marriage, at least maybe not at this point in time.

eriadoc
05-28-2013, 07:51 AM
He's a running back. It's not like he's a philosophy major. ;)

infantrycak
05-28-2013, 07:59 AM
Well you clearly aren't alone, because these 2 members of the Supreme Court including the all-important swing-vote Anthony M. Kennedy and even Obama appointee Sonia Sotomayor aren't necessarily buying into the proposition of gay-marriage, at least maybe not at this point in time.

You are missing the point of their comments which is about the procedural history of this case. If they do nothing then gay marriage is legal in California despite the vote on Proposition 8.

IDEXAN
05-28-2013, 09:59 AM
You just got the feeling that after Chris Kluwe left the Minnesota Vikings, that some other player would come forward with an opinion on gay marriage. Kluwe of course, is a huge advocate for gay marriage, getting involved on a national and political level. As far as the player who would say something the opposite of Kluwe, I wouldn’t have predicted it would be Adrian Peterson.
AP was asked his thoughts on gay marriage during a recent interview, and he answered very candidly.
“To each his own, (but) I’m not with it. I have relatives who are gay. I’m not biased towards them. I still treat them the same. I love ‘em. But again, I’m not with that. That’s not something I believe in. But to each his own.”
Many people are not going to like his comments, but Peterson is correct when he says ‘to each his own.’ This is merely AP’s opinion, and he’s entitled to it. Agree, or disagree, he has the right to give his stance on an issue.
I think it’s unfortunate that Peterson answered the question, though, because his answer is not relevant to the game of football. Regardless of his stance, he’s just a football player. I don’t think people should be looking to athletes for their opinions on big ticket items, like gay marriage.
To me, these are topics best left off the table. Of course he’s going to get asked the question, but the best response would have just been a polite refusal to answer. Football fans don’t need to know what Adrian Peterson thinks about gay marriage. Now, because he chose a side, he’ll no doubt lose some fans. I find that to be unfortunate.
Whether you agree or disagree with AP, just remember, he gets paid to play a game. At the same time, he’s an American entitled to his opinion, and you have to respect the freedom that he has to pick a side. We often criticize athletes for being to generic in their responses, then we freak out when they speak candidly. At least Peterson is honest, and I can assure you that it ultimately won’t affect what he does on Sundays, which is all I really care about.

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/05/27/adrian-peterson-is-entitled-to-his-opinion-but-was-better-served-to-stay-quiet/?DsxXmlxrILhzrtE6.99
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So here's some social media type who apparently is supportive of Kluwe and his pro gay-marriage stance, seems to be complimentary that he's an activist on "national and political level".
OK, but then let some "dumb jock" come out with his thoughts on gay marriage, and this Fischer guy is all over him, very critical, really a tone of condemnation. Wow ! Talk about somebody with a bias and clearly his own agenda.

Double Barrel
05-28-2013, 11:18 AM
Adrian Peterson once compared NFL players to slaves during the lockout, so his opinion on literally everything should be rendered completely irrelevant.

QFT.

The next time I care what Adrian Peterson has to say about anything in life will be the first time I care what Adrian Peterson has to say about anything.

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
~ Frank Zappa

Society will continue to progress in spite of archaic beliefs by an ever diminishing number of citizens.

b0ng
05-28-2013, 04:58 PM
This is based on what exactly?

This is the article I was thinking of when writing that, have a read:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mind-your-language/2011/nov/18/mind-your-language-word-homosexual

To stop prejudice-based bullying, gay people need to be normalised - not distanced by language. Plain English dictates that we use "people" instead of Homo sapiens so it follows that "gay people" is less stigmatising than "homosexuals". The noun "homosexual" is equally dehumanising and cold. Reporting needs to be neutral. To be clear, I'm not advocating saccharine and perfunctory warmth to replace this coldness "those fabulous, wonderful gays!" but the entirely neutral "gay people".

There's a deeper, more important reason to scrap this pernicious noun. It's loaded with discriminatory baggage. "Homosexual" was the carefully chosen oppressive medical vernacular employed to describe gay people as mentally ill. The American Psychiatric Association officially declassified it as a mental illness in 1974; the World Health Organisation eventually followed suit in 1992. But the hangover effect lives on: some medical professionals still use it as a justification for carrying out so-called "homosexual-cure" therapies. As such, "homosexual" can never be thought to come from a neutral position.

PapaL
05-28-2013, 05:58 PM
He's a running back. It's not like he's a philosophy major. ;)

Yeah, only RBs from Tennessee can be philosophize!